DadR:
Nothing really, peradventure it's the easiest way to immigrate to through PNP.

veleta:
@Joo2018,whoever advised your sister about practicing in Uk was right,chances of foreign trained doctors practising in Canada is very slim.I know some Canadian citizens who had to come to Uk to do their residency in Uk and obviously after their training will go back to practice in Canada especially in Family Physician as their training is recognised in Canada.
Even if express entry changes along the line,your Uk training is recognised also in Australia.
She can still get her pursue her PR in Canada then wait until she qualifies for a citizen then move to Uk and get her post graduate training there.All the best to her

maternal:


I don't know if that advice was wrong. I've never been in her situation nor am I a professional. But my father always taught me not to use short cuts in life, as it will always comeback to haunt you. I've also learned that nothing is guaranteed in life. How long is a while in the UK ? How much "easier" would it be practicing in Canada ? How do you even know when she's ready to come to Canada they'll be an immigration avenue for her available ? If she can migrate through EE, I'd come here, then start the process on becoming a doctor here. In the meantime my stay in Canada would count towards my inevitable citizenship. I'd also know that the program I'm doing will go towards me being a doctor in Canada eventually. I don't like what if's, or 50/50. I need to know if I do X, I'll be guaranteed to get X. If that was my sister, I'd tell her to bite the bullet, come to Canada, and do what you need to do to achieve her goals.

Akingsqueen:
Meehn I'm liking you more. You are always on point with your replies. I'd take my chances too if I were her. Hustle it out and get what I want. I know some doctors prefer to go to UK, work and save up before coming to Canada (you need money for all those exams afterall) but she can be making her plans for UK while following up with express entry. When she gets the PR, she can do a soft landing, tidy up in UK and then come over finally. Except if she plans to do a training program there to which I would say go for it, get the Royal College and come over to Canada. She would not have to go through the rigours of residency matching in Canada. She can do that alongside express entry/PR application. When she gets it, she can then be visiting Canada to fulfill the required number of days in a year to retain one's PR status at least until she finishes with her program.

Akingsqueen:
Meehn I'm liking you more. You are always on point with your replies. I'd take my chances too if I were her. Hustle it out and get what I want. I know some doctors prefer to go to UK, work and save up before coming to Canada (you need money for all those exams afterall) but she can be making her plans for UK while following up with express entry. When she gets the PR, she can do a soft landing, tidy up in UK and then come over finally. Except if she plans to do a training program there to which I would say go for it, get the Royal College and come over to Canada. She would not have to go through the rigours of residency matching in Canada. She can do that alongside express entry/PR application. When she gets it, she can then be visiting Canada to fulfill the required number of days in a year to retain one's PR status at least until she finishes with her program.

Babyvet:
na wa ohh. This Canada seems tuff and expensive. Thankfully, this forum is available to those living back home to give them insight. For those chasing professional courses like medicine , I would advise to train in the country that you plan to live in. Reason being is because the country is training their graduates to work in their own system. For example, even. though Canada and U.S are similar, it would be still hard for a medical professional from the US to go over to Canada because of all of the hassles that may not even be worth it.

salford:

Every year, thousands of Canadians go to the US, the Carribeans and the UK to study medicine. A very high percentage of them never come back to practice in Canada as they would be classified as IMGs with all the residency matching wahala. Luckily, a high percentage of them end up practicing in the US with better wages. I have church members whose kids were born in Canada studying medicine in the Carribeans, and they are aware it might be tough for them to practice in Canada if they return here.

Babyvet:


I work with a lot of medical residents in the US. A lot of the ones I work with, come from the neighboring schools in the town. Even US citizens going outside of the country to study medicine find it difficult when they return. You see when schooling here, your suppose to use that period to network and gain some experience in the field through externships. Like I said, I like Canada for their immigration but when it comes to job opportunity I highly prefer the US.

salford:

Every year, thousands of Canadians go to the US, the Carribeans and the UK to study medicine. A very high percentage of them never come back to practice in Canada as they would be classified as IMGs with all the residency matching wahala. It would be nice if their residency in the UK is recognized as you mentioned. A lot of cities in Canada are in extreme shortage of farmily docs.

Luckily, a high percentage of the Canadian IMGs end up practicing in the US with better wages. I have church members whose kids were born in Canada studying medicine in the Carribeans, and they are aware it might be tough for them to practice in Canada if they return here.

I also have a friend that landed as a PR but is now completing a residency in the US. He had to pass the qualifying exams down there in addition to his MPH from a US uni. Not sure if the MPH from helped him in landing a residency, but I am very sure his Canadian PR helped him.

salford:

You are right. The schooling period helps in building networks and solid references to use when they apply for matching. Some even publish lots of journals before grad in a specialization they intend to get into for residency. All these helps in their matching applications.

You could read the tragic case of Robert Chu.

Babyvet:


Also what happened to Robert Chu , was unfortunate but it was not worth work taking his life over. Life is unfair and the same thing happens in the US as well. That is one thing that I like about immigrants, we tend to be resilient even when we face push backs.

A555:


Our experience for Calgary was quite straightforward.

Arrived in Calgary 6 weeks before the baby was due. Went to registry to sign up for health care and asked for the Alberta healthcare number immediately, so we had it written down while waiting for the card to arrive in the post within a week (I think it was actually just a couple of days later).

Went straight to sign up with a regular family doctor (walk-in) who immediately made the referral. Scans and tests were requested because the medical report from Nigeria was insufficient. The family doctor did a lot of the initial work. Called various hospitals & maternity clinics till he found one to take us straightaway. In fact, he referred us to the maternity clinic for the same day, and then called us in the evening to confirm we had seen the doctor. At the maternity clinic, they simply booked us in to see a doctor the following week.

Due to the proximity to the due date, at the maternity clinic, doctor asked that we schedule weekly visits. So after every appointment, we scheduled a follow up for the following week. Everything went smoothly, and honestly it was the best experience ever. If you're coming into Alberta, I doubt you will have much to worry about.

joo2018:
Ok. Thanks.
The whole thing is just frustrating. My sister has to put the Canada dream on hold and is pursuing a UK program instead.

DadR:
Dear Seniors, trust you are all doing fine.

Please would you advise a non-french speaker to reside and work in Quebec? What are the prons and cons?

Also, if one gets to immigrate to Quebec via PNP, can one leave for another province after staying in Quebec for a while and for how long can one stay before leaving?

Any thoughts please?

cc: Salford1, maternal, azed1, 40manlappy et all

Maybe if you lay all the cards on the table, you may get a more robust response.

A non-French speaker can reside in Quebec but you may need French for most jobs. I learned that there is a sizeable English-speaking population in Montreal which is not surprising due to its cosmopolitan nature. I have met a few people who moved from Montreal to Ontario side in search of jobs; maybe due to language limitation. If you intend to work in Quebec, IMO, you will do better if you can speak French.

Quebec is different from the rest of Canada in most things. If you immigrate through "Quebec PNP", you will be given a Certificat de sélection du Québec (CSQ – Québec selection certificate). If I recollect correctly, you will have a moral obligation to stay in Quebec for 2 years during which you are expected to undergo "Francisation" program which includes learning French for at least 1 year. You will be given some funds to take care of your transport, etc. I don't think you can work during this period but that may not be a source of worry if you have your POF intact + financial support from Quebec government.

Housing, childcare and insurance costs are cheaper in Quebec but the sales and income tax are higher. In the end, it is entirely up to you taking into consideration what you really want and your long-range plans.

maternal:


I was under the impression you have to be fluent in French to get the PNP ? If not, do what you have to do, to get to Canada. As for your questions, it can be challenging but I know there are English companies in Montreal. I have English speaking friends who live and are successful in Montreal. But if you go to a Quebec city for example; forget it.

40manlappy:

veleta:
@Joo2018,whoever advised your sister about practicing in Uk was right,chances of foreign trained doctors practising in Canada is very slim.I know some Canadian citizens who had to come to Uk to do their residency in Uk and obviously after their training will go back to practice in Canada especially in Family Physician as their training is recognised in Canada.
Even if express entry changes along the line,your Uk training is recognised also in Australia.
She can still get her pursue her PR in Canada then wait until she qualifies for a citizen then move to Uk and get her post graduate training there.All the best to her

Blessedluvdfavd:
The last applicants just withdrew so we applied and signed the lease today long story short. They took 4 months rent upfront and this was much better than the person requesting 12months upfront from us! Phew! Thank God the house phase is over.

Oben209:
Please house I’m at a cross road right now , I’m usin two degrees for WES and I’m required to send the certificate of both. Can I send them together or it has to be separate mails, the amount I’m seeing for separate mails is about 55k with dhl..
please house can I just send the two in one single mail, has anyone been in this kinda situation

Oben209:
Please house I’m at a cross road right now , I’m usin two degrees for WES and I’m required to send the certificate of both. Can I send them together or it has to be separate mails, the amount I’m seeing for separate mails is about 55k with dhl..
please house can I just send the two in one single mail, has anyone been in this kinda situation

vcole:
As regards IMGs and practicing in Canada.

Yes, if you are a licensed consultant in Canada, UK or Australia, you can practice in all 3 countries.

EglintonWest:
I am new here,wish I came across this site sooner, I have an issue and I need advise on the best action to take,I putting my application for PR on the 5th of December 2017, I got my PR through the CEC on the 18th of February 2018 but before that, I went back to Nigeria and I did a court wedding Dec 26, 2017 thinking after application, status change won't matter and I can sponsor my wife (grave mistake)whenever I get my PR. Got PPR request on the 3rd and out of fear of what might happen, I did not declare my status has changed (dumb move) .
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veleta:
@Vcole,nice contribution but you don't need to work in Uk for a year or 2 years to get into post graduate training in Family Medicine. Once you get your GMC licence,you can take the Specialty Recruitment exams and if you pass,you start your training.Some guys work for 6 months to get Uk experience then sit for the exams so,it's not compulsory.
Though,some people say Aussie is better than Canada in terms of pay as well as work/life balance.