Pipedreams:
I'm sure the car was advertised on nairaland

GAZZUZZ:
One car was cleared as parts, Very cheap Duty, the other Came in thru the Bush?

Last time I saw this kina crap was on a Crostour in my workshop.

mayor2013:
But calculux wrote up something like this and he was crucified. All I can say with this is no one is an island of knowledge

thebigkendo:


What of the VIN tag under the Windshield? Was it also replaced?

Cosplay:


I assume you're referring to his refusal to provide the VIN for his advertised vehicles because of some fear of VIN cloning.

In which case you're quite wrong, and this is very different.

For the events described here to have been possible the perpetrators would have needed physical access to the actual physical VIN stamp from the damaged Vehicle.

Simply seeing the VIN online wouldn't suffice for the level of detail that went into this counterfeit.

Cosplay:
2017 Honda CR-V Vehicle 1

Specifications:

VIN - 5J6RW2H93HL059004

www.nairaland.com/attachments/7517085_screenshot20180804131318gallery_jpegfd522ade73418cdea91a771368adf852

Colour - G546M - Dark Olive Metallic - Black

Series/Trim - Touring

Drive Type: 4WD/4-Wheel Drive/4x4

Cylinders: 4

Primary Fuel Type: Gasoline

Transmission Style: Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT)

History:

July/August 2017:

Manufactured and shipped to dealer

September 2017:

Registered/Titled - Louisville, Kentucky.

Mileage at Title: 270 Miles

www.nairaland.com/attachments/7516896_screenshot20180804021809word_jpeg2c70caa1644388e581ae25eb70746abd

Late September 2017:

Mileage - 270 - odd Miles

Devastating Damage reported -

Pillars totaled, passengers expired at scene. (Kentucky State Police Case #:17-00230). Rollover, Biohazard damage.

-VEHICLE OVERTURNED

-Kentucky State Police Report - LEFT FRONT IMPACT COLLISION WITH SECONDARY VEHICLE (Case #:17-00230)

-VERY SEVERE FRAME DAMAGE REPORTED

-MULTIPLE AIR BAG DEPLOYMENT

-VEHICLE WAS TOWED

October/November 2017:

Vehicle declared Salvage - State Farm Inc, Kentucky.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/7516911_screenshot20180804021723word_jpega157e83ddd37d5f9308e00aae2c2f8e3

Claims paid.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/7516895_screenshot20180804021921word_jpeg1bb8048610d865b64c0490d19c03bf6b

Vehicle moved to auction - Copart Inc.



Auction announced as Junk/Parts Only.



Auction document - Bill of Sale, Parts Only, No Title.



December 2017

Vehicle sold by Copart, Louisville, Kentucky. Winning bid 2000 USD. North Carolina.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/7516910_screenshot20180804015434chrome_jpeg8f9f012d6031718cfa095302f3daa8e1

February 2018

Vehicle returned to Copart auction.



Half-hearted attempts at repairs noted. Hood flattened, windscreen changed.



Vehicle still a hulking pile of junk.



Vehicle sold by Copart, Greer, South Carolina. Winning bid 4250 USD.

27 February 2018

Vehicle removed from Copart Premises.

The End...

mayor2013:


I may be. What makes this different pardon my inquisitive nature. On a norm would a naive and inexperienced seller would ever be able to identify this?

calculus×:


* Someone saw my advert, requested for the Vin to to be displayed which I did, this person came to my office with his boss to inspect the Vehicle, made copies of Custom Paper claiming to want to verify if duty was paid and that was all I heard from them.

Few Months after someone else bought the Vehicle and was unable to register it. The Customer could have come here and called me names for selling a Registered Vehicle as Toks. He had a listening ear and we both investigated the Case. It turned out that the guy that inspected the Vehicle with his boss actually took a loan from his office to procure the Car and Registered it without my consent. Luckily, he did the Registration with his Phone number and that was how we were able to track him down. Ever since then, I stopped displaying Vin nos on majority of my adverts

Kudos to you for this Change you brought to Auto Section. You deserve a recommendation

Cosplay:


An inquisitive mind is a brilliant mind.

This is the exact post I assume you referred to:



As I stated, these are very different scenarios:

He stated that the gentleman requested the VIN and it was provided, and subsequently he came to his place of business, made copies of the vehicle custom papers, and absconded, proceeding to register the vehicle illegally with the particulars and the VIN.

1. Referring to the events I described in the first 2 posts on this page, because of the level of detail in the counterfeit sticker of the White CR-V, it could only have been possible if the forger had physical possession of the original sticker from the black vehicle.

The difference between these two scenarios is that this goes far beyond merely seeing the VIN online and copying and pasting on a vehicle, the VIN alone would not nearly be enough for this level of work. The 1D bar was duplicated.

Even a photo of the VIN sticker may not be enough, unless the picture of the stamp was taken directly, not at an angle, and with a particularly high resolution camera with OIS to ensure the binary comes out perfect. What seller here bothers with that?

3. To the second issue you raised, as a matter of fact a naive but honest seller would be able to determine that there was something very amiss with the white CR-V, with a history report. Perhaps not to the level of detail I outlined above, but certainly enough to make them ask the right questions.

That was where the forger in this case erred. Unlike in the case of the red Toyota Venza, the cloned VIN here has an actual timeline which I outlined above.

Any vehicle seller, experienced or otherwise, has no business selling vehicles if he doesn't understand the simple concept of vehicle history.

Do not advertise or sell what you don't know.

Josh44s:


How do I check my car VIN number?

mayor2013:


As for your last paragraph. There is a little beginning in every business. No one was born with all this we all learn

This is very case is far part away from what have spotted. This would have been much compared in the case of the corolla calculus posted. But for this which you posted I can't remember.

The big question is where did all this take place ? In the US or on the Nigerian soil which definitely can't be . Calculux was right stating this fraudulent act has been going on in the US for quite sometime

Computergloba:
Happy Sunday

Cosplay:


Bros

Computergloba:


Oga

Cosplay:


Be like dem ban you till eternity.

Josh44s:


How do I check my car VIN number?

Cosplay:
2017 Honda CR-V Vehicle 1

Specifications:

VIN - 5J6RW2H93HL059004

www.nairaland.com/attachments/7517085_screenshot20180804131318gallery_jpegfd522ade73418cdea91a771368adf852

Colour - G546M - Dark Olive Metallic - Black

Series/Trim - Touring

Drive Type: 4WD/4-Wheel Drive/4x4

Cylinders: 4

Primary Fuel Type: Gasoline

Transmission Style: Continuously Variable Transmission (CVT)

History:

July/August 2017:

Manufactured and shipped to dealer

September 2017:

Registered/Titled - Louisville, Kentucky.

Mileage at Title: 270 Miles

www.nairaland.com/attachments/7516896_screenshot20180804021809word_jpeg2c70caa1644388e581ae25eb70746abd

Late September 2017:

Mileage - 270 - odd Miles

Devastating Damage reported -

Pillars totaled, passengers expired at scene. (Kentucky State Police Case #:17-00230). Rollover, Biohazard damage.

-VEHICLE OVERTURNED

-Kentucky State Police Report - LEFT FRONT IMPACT COLLISION WITH SECONDARY VEHICLE (Case #:17-00230)

-VERY SEVERE FRAME DAMAGE REPORTED

-MULTIPLE AIR BAG DEPLOYMENT

-VEHICLE WAS TOWED

October/November 2017:

Vehicle declared Salvage - State Farm Inc, Kentucky.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/7516911_screenshot20180804021723word_jpega157e83ddd37d5f9308e00aae2c2f8e3

Claims paid.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/7516895_screenshot20180804021921word_jpeg1bb8048610d865b64c0490d19c03bf6b

Vehicle moved to auction - Copart Inc.



Auction announced as Junk/Parts Only.



Auction document - Bill of Sale, Parts Only, No Title.



December 2017

Vehicle sold by Copart, Louisville, Kentucky. Winning bid 2000 USD. North Carolina.

www.nairaland.com/attachments/7516910_screenshot20180804015434chrome_jpeg8f9f012d6031718cfa095302f3daa8e1

February 2018

Vehicle returned to Copart auction.



Half-hearted attempts at repairs noted. Hood flattened, windscreen changed.



Vehicle still a hulking pile of junk.



Vehicle sold by Copart, Greer, South Carolina. Winning bid 4250 USD.

27 February 2018

Vehicle removed from Copart Premises.

The End...

Cosplay:


The Grey Toyota Corolla with the Mexicans?

That has even less in common with this case.

In that case there was simply no tampering or cloning of any sort. None whatsoever.

As I recall, he taunted someone, I stepped in to defend the person, he responded with false information, and everything went to hell

mayor2013:


But it's on record already calculux spotted this out and even made it public on this fora. I followed every from a quiet background. I still maintain no one is an island of knowledge. He was right all the way and he should be applauded for that. Back to my question where was all this done on the Nigerian soil? Or the US soil or perhaps the jamaican soil

GAZZUZZ:
One car was cleared as parts, Very cheap Duty, the other Came in thru the Bush?

Last time I saw this kina crap was on a Crostour in my workshop.