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Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Mamatukwas: 3:41pm On Aug 12, 2018 |
justwise: 2009. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by salford1: 3:53pm On Aug 12, 2018 |
Babyvet:Superior when you have the money. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Babyvet: 4:05pm On Aug 12, 2018 |
salford1: No, they will take care of you, you MAY just have hefty bill afterwards. There are so many people alive today because the technology available here that save people lives and it cost money. I lived in the U.K, for almost a decade. I have nothing against the country but the us has a better system it has it flaws but it still better. Plus I work on the health care system and some many of the nhs nurses work would prefer to come over here than work in the uk. Poor condition and low pay. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by justwise(m): 4:28pm On Aug 12, 2018 |
Mamatukwas: The same year I left that city |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by salford1: 4:51pm On Aug 12, 2018 |
Babyvet:The US pays better wages than than the UK - agreed. I also got a £21,000 raise for doing same job when i moved to Canada from the UK. I would even earn more if I moved to the States. Back to the healthcare issue. If one has a good wage in the US or has a job that offers coverage for employees, then medical insurance is chicken change or a walk in the park, but for people not earning much or no sort of coverage, they would probably take nhs over the care in the states. The UK has similar health coverage as Canada. The result of free health care is long wait list for even some basic surgeries. As a result, you would find Canadians that can afford the extra cost moving to the US for care(no waitlist) and for procedures not available in Canada. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by amazingraze: 4:54pm On Aug 12, 2018 |
justwise: |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Babyvet: 5:05pm On Aug 12, 2018 |
salford1: The UK and Canada are both much smaller than the US. There are pro and cons of Universal health care. My mother was born and lived in England, although she had enjoyed some benefits nhs, in the end she says it was not worth it. She prefer living in the US, even though she does not have the same benefits as she did in the Uk, like free health care , free housing and free child care, her quality of life is far better here than in the UK. More opportunities for her professional growth and practice and makes far more money here than in the Uk which allows here to be self sufficient. She saw too many Nigerians becoming complacent on government assistance and not reaching their full potentials. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Rainss: 5:33pm On Aug 12, 2018 |
Hi everyone Very cool platform. Please would like to ask. I really dunno if anyone could help me with enough true words. I'm relocating to the UK (Birmingham) in October. I schooled in Nigeria(Bsc) however I was born in the UK and have a british passport. My main issue is centred around job search. I know UK is really choosy when it comes to selecting candidates for jobs and also have this preference for individuals that had their undergraduate or postgraduate education in the UK. I would like to know my chances of getting a good corporate job when I get over there. I currently work at one of the leading banks and have only been there for a year. I'm just 24years. I really do not have the funds to pursue masters degree at the moment and can't rely on loans from the government up until my 3rd year of residing in UK. I know it may not be easy but I just need your advice ,or if you know someone who has been in this situation before.. I wouldn't mind hearing your story. Thank you. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 5:51pm On Aug 12, 2018 |
Babyvet: Are you forgetting to mention the people that have had to go bankrupt, due to healthcare bills? Or you don't feel its necessary to mention it? |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 5:53pm On Aug 12, 2018 |
Rainss: To short answer to your question is, relocate and see for yourself the choices/options you have........ Because the options are not available today, does not mean you cannot work towards them for the future...... 2 Likes |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Babyvet: 6:03pm On Aug 12, 2018 |
Lexusgs430: yes people do get bankrupt, they file for bankruptcy but at least they alive to do so. But the truth of the matter ,government still pay a good portion of healthcare in the US. The problem with this universal health care is that not truly universal. If you have basic problem or generally health then it's fine, but if you have special condition then its horrible. That's why you see Canadians crossing into the border to get healthcare but less wait time and more specialized doctors. We a lot of specializations here , its not even funny that of the money being spent. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 6:28pm On Aug 12, 2018 |
Babyvet: Which would you prefer, a system you can walk into and run a £300,000 bill without any immediate financial recourse or having to starve of bankruptcy? I am not saying the NHS works 100% (very far from that), but it is still a good service and also saving lives...... |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Babyvet: 6:46pm On Aug 12, 2018 |
Lexusgs430: Like I said , government still pay for a good portion and yes the American government needs to work creating a less financially burdening system but I don't want it to be like the Uk or Canada. I have British passport and have the opportunity to take advantage of the nhs but I can not see myself ever living there again. Everyone should do what works for them. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Lexusgs430: 7:12pm On Aug 12, 2018 |
Babyvet: Exactly..... Likewise yourself, I have also lived and worked in the UK & the States..... But I choose to settle in the former.... No system is perfect, but we have individualistic reasons for the choices we make & take..... 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Scottiemi(f): 10:21am On Aug 13, 2018 |
Good morning everyone, Pls would like to know if anyone in the house is living in Scotland, Paisley to be precise and how it has been. A student would also be wonderful as I am a student traveling down later this month. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by wonlasewonimi: 11:42am On Aug 13, 2018 |
Babyvet: My sister had a baby in the US and she was billed like 15k usd... If not for her insurance, she would have coughed out that much. Whereas, you walk in to NHS, and carry your baby out;the midwives would even be begging to rate their services. I know which I will pick! 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by fatima04: 12:42pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
wonlasewonimi: Even self pay patient pay as much as 6,000 to 7,000 dollars if not more. I remember the hospital I had my son in Texas asking for 800 dollars to perform circumcision and will pay doctor fees too which will be 200dollars. I carry baby come do it naija sharpsharp. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Babyvet: 12:46pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
wonlasewonimi: Why your sister no give birth in the U.K.? 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Babyvet: 12:50pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
fatima04: You should be grateful, this country is one of the few developed countries that allow outsiders to come here and give birth and the baby gets automatic citizenship. Many people are spending more that amount to get green card in the country. 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by wonlasewonimi: 12:53pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
Babyvet: She lives in the US |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by DisGuy: 12:53pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
also heard the doctors in Yankee give you extra meds and plasters just to increase your final bill Any system that requires the main Medical Doctor/Clinician treating you think about money to me is totally fcukd up! |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Rubyventures: 1:00pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
I think it is selfish to want the health care system in US to be introduced here, its seems that for some people as long as they and their families can afford something the rest people can go to hell. What about those people who cannot afford it? those that were born with ailments and will never get insurance? Healthcare for all is the best way to go not just for a few. I remember a few years back, when I was on holiday in the states and my kid fell and hurt himself, we called an ambulance and were told that if they had to take us to the hospital it will cost $500 and it would be better to drive down ourselves which we did. The hospital service we received was superb. There wasn't any body waiting, we were seen by the doctor immediately , we had 3 nurses and a doctor attending to us. before this I had to pay $3,000 on my Credit card. ( this I later claimed back from my travel insurance). After getting back to the UK there was a further bill of about $700, my insurance took care of this. Just for a few stitches on a wound. Even the hotel had the cheek to charge for the 911 call? There are Americans who come to the UK for treatment, the system in America ignores the vulnerable and the poor and that's not right. In my opinion the NHS is one of the best health care systems in the world. 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Babyvet: 1:07pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
Babyvet: But even with the U.K. health system , people in the area are still generally unhealthy . Like I said , I’m not going to live in the U.K. or even go there to give birth , don’t care how free or cheap the healthcare is .The free or cheap care drives down the wages of the employees, which is why the is US is a top destination for health practitioners. For the very people , Medicaid or Medicare is available. this means? people in U.K are less healthier than people in U.S? i will accept people in U.S generally have over bleached transparent teeth but nahh all those hormone stuffed foods cant be healthy surely ![]() |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by DisGuy: 1:13pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
oops there's a glitch on Nairaland^^^ just quoted babyvet this is the third time this is happening to me! |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Babyvet: 1:19pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
DisGuy: Nope , I meant that even the though the people have access to all that care , they are not the healthiest people in the world. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Rubyventures: 1:40pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
Where does America stand globally? According to the World Health Organization, the following countries have the highest rates of obesity. 1. Republic of Nauru Formerly known as Pleasant Island, this tiny island country in the South Pacific only has a population of 9,300. The country has the highest rate of obesity in the world with 78.5 percent of the population categorized as such. Unsurprisingly, they also have the highest levels of type-2 diabetes in the world. 2. American Samoa Another South Pacific island, Samoa is an unincorporated territory of the U.S. With a population of 55,519, according to the latest U.S. census, 74.6 percent of its citizens are obese. 3. Tokelau Yet another South Pacific Island, Tokelau is a New Zealand territory with less than 2,000 inhabitants. It's the fourth least populace country in the world, but 63.4 percent of the population is obese. 4. Tonga Fourth on our list is yet another island in the southern Pacific Ocean. Tonga is a sovereign state in Polynesia that gained its independence from the British in 1970. They are the largest nation by population so far on the list with over 103,000, over half of which are obese-56 percent. 5. French Polynesia Seventeen hundred miles away from Tonga is French Polynesia, comprising of around 130 islands, including Tahiti. French Polynesia is an overseas country of France, but the president of French Polynesia maintains position as head of government. They have a population of 268,000 and an obesity rate of 40.9 percent. 6. Republic of Kiribati Number six on the list is another island nation, though this one is in the central Pacific Ocean and straddles the equator. With a population of 103,500, Kiribati has an obesity rate of 50.6 percent. 7. Saudi Arabia Saudi Arabia is the first country on the list that is not an island. The world's largest oil exporter has a population of just under 30 million. Their obesity rate is 35.6 percent, meaning over 10 million Saudis are obese. 8. Panama This Central American nation is home to 3.6 million, a world-famous canal and an obesity rate of 34.7 percent. 9. United States of America Coming in at ninth place, America has an obesity rate of 33.9 percent, according to the WHO. The rate has been steady since 2005, but has grown exponentially since the late '90s, when the rate fluctuated between 16 and 20 percent. With a population of 313 million, the 33.9 percent rate translates into over 106 million obese Americans. 10. United Arab Emirates Rounding out the top 10, the United Arab Emirates is a federation of seven emirates including Abu Dhabi and Dubai. The country has a population of five and half million and an obesity rate of 33.7 percent. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by DisGuy: 1:56pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
Babyvet: Hmm I think the discussion is mainly focused on having access to healthcare at the point of need and service offered not generally with choice individuals make. I wonder what will happen to someone like this if she had been in Yankee https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2753786/nigerian-health-tourists-tragedy-as-two-newborn-quadruplets-die-when-she-goes-into-labour-on-plane-to-heathrow-after-us-turn-her-away-costing-taxpayer-500k/ 1 Like |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by fatima04: 2:06pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
Babyvet: It's not about being grateful or not and also we are all rendering services to each other. I am pretty sure the income generated from self pay patient do cover up because why will a bill of 32,000 be reduced to 5,000 if not that some upcoding has been done at one point or the other. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by fatima04: 2:09pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
Rubyventures: If one isn't even careful they can keep sending u unending bills. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Rubyventures: 2:27pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
fatima04: Don't mind them, I just linked them with my travel insurers and forgot about them. |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by Scottiemi(f): 3:16pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
Hello people Scottiemi: |
Re: Living In The Uk/life As A UK Immigrant by wonlasewonimi: 3:37pm On Aug 13, 2018 |
Scottiemi: Don't worry.. Scotland is cool, you will enjoy the landscape and the architectural masterpieces. The people don't speak English, you might have to learn another language. Mind you, when you land, you will enter into a pact with the cold weather to take it easy on you. The cold is brutal! |
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