Forget Nigerian version of Christianity it is mostly populated by scammers. Not all but majority

List one genuine preacher you know?

lovingyouhun:

Bros are you joking or you're serious?

I'm an atheist, I was joking

hopefulLandlord:
Dalaman, is it your money? I was there at the service. I sowed my school fees combined with my life savings. Now I'm reaping the benefits as I'm now a dropout, my parents disowned me, I'm homeless and penniless. Glory be to the Jewish god and this pastor he sent to ruin my life

HOPEPULLANDLORD

I don't blame the scammers in the pulpit but followers that lacks common sense. Left to me,all this dangerous and fraudulent criminals' called pastor will all be out of business,i hv not and will never donate my money to them.The God I believed in does not live in a building but within me.

Chiedu4Trump:

I beg tell me who be genuine preacher.

The problem is that people like you don't know who God is and that is why you think it is possible to serve God without sowing seeds. If you can't give money to God, is it now your life that you can give for his sake if push comes to shove? Please read this passage I quoted below and see what Prophet Elijah did and how he asked for a widow to sow a seed into his life with her last food she had reserved for herself and son. If people like you were around in the time of Elijah, you would have been the first to call him a 'false prophet/scammer'

Give your life to Christ and stop loving money and that way you will find it easy to give if you have! Besides, as long as a pastor does not put a gun to your head when asking you to give to God, then he hasn't done anything wrong, and he is not necessarily saying it and meaning that the message is for everyone to obey. Those students who can afford it there will give. After all there are students who fly to travel when their mates can't even afford bus fare from Benin to Lagos. Read what Prophet Elijah did to the widow below and afterwards go ahead and call him false prophet!

1 Kings 17:8-16 And the word of the LORD came unto him, saying,
Arise, get thee to Zarephath, which belongeth to Zidon, and dwell there: behold, I have commanded a widow woman there to sustain thee.
So he arose and went to Zarephath. And when he came to the gate of the city, behold, the widow woman was there gathering of sticks: and he called to her, and said, Fetch me, I pray thee, a little water in a vessel, that I may drink.
And as she was going to fetch it, he called to her, and said, Bring me, I pray thee, a morsel of bread in thine hand.
And she said, As the LORD thy God liveth, I have not a cake, but an handful of meal in a barrel, and a little oil in a cruse: and, behold, I am gathering two sticks, that I may go in and dress it for me and my son, that we may eat it, and die.
And Elijah said unto her, Fear not; go and do as thou hast said: but make me thereof a little cake first, and bring it unto me, and after make for thee and for thy son.
For thus saith the LORD God of Israel, The barrel of meal shall not waste, neither shall the cruse of oil fail, until the day that the LORD sendeth rain upon the earth.
And she went and did according to the saying of Elijah: and she, and he, and her house, did eat many days.
And the barrel of meal wasted not, neither did the cruse of oil fail, according to the word of the LORD, which he spake by Elijah.

http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bible.kingjamesbiblelite

chux67:
I don't blame the scammers in the pulpit but followers that lacks common sense. Left to me,all this dangerous and fraudulent criminals' called pastor will all be out of business,i hv not and will never donate my money to them.The God I believed in does not live in a building but within me.

That's your business! Me I give and will continue to give as long as I have. You don't give and you are angry on behalf of some of us who give. Can't you see how you are deceiving yourself? Why don't you and daddy freeze come to my house and beat me up for giving and sowing?

Besides, it will do you some good to read what Prophet Elijah did when he was asking a starving widow to sow into his life. Read it below and then call him a false prophet!

1 Kings 17:8-16 And the word of the LORD came unto him, saying,
Arise, get thee to Zarephath, which belongeth to Zidon, and dwell there: behold, I have commanded a widow woman there to sustain thee.
So he arose and went to Zarephath. And when he came to the gate of the city, behold, the widow woman was there gathering of sticks: and he called to her, and said, Fetch me, I pray thee, a little water in a vessel, that I may drink.
And as she was going to fetch it, he called to her, and said, Bring me, I pray thee, a morsel of bread in thine hand.
And she said, As the LORD thy God liveth, I have not a cake, but an handful of meal in a barrel, and a little oil in a cruse: and, behold, I am gathering two sticks, that I may go in and dress it for me and my son, that we may eat it, and die.
And Elijah said unto her, Fear not; go and do as thou hast said: but make me thereof a little cake first, and bring it unto me, and after make for thee and for thy son.
For thus saith the LORD God of Israel, The barrel of meal shall not waste, neither shall the cruse of oil fail, until the day that the LORD sendeth rain upon the earth.
And she went and did according to the saying of Elijah: and she, and he, and her house, did eat many days.
And the barrel of meal wasted not, neither did the cruse of oil fail, according to the word of the LORD, which he spake by Elijah.

http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bible.kingjamesbiblelite

kramer:
Christianity has lost its way smh


If you listen to video, at 6:27 he makes the statement below:

"If God appears to me and tells me Seed does not work, I'll tell God 'thank you', ... because Seeds work"

How does that make any sense?? Does this mean he his willing to go against the word of God all because of money/seed? False prophet alarm bells ringing here

It makes sense, because even in your desperation to disprove the word and principles of Christ, you forgot to understand that before Jesus fed the 5000 with 5loaves of bread and 2fishes as you depicted in your photo above, JESUS FIRST ASKED FOR SOMEBODY TO SOW A SEED! AND A LITTLE BOY SOWED HIS 5LOAVES AND 2FISHES TO JESUS, AND THAT IS WHY JESUS WAS ABLE TO FEED THE 5000 MEN WITH IT!

Why didn't Jesus call down bread from heaven to feed those people? Why did he have to first ask somebody to sow a seed before he multiplied that seed to use it to feed the multitude? Is he not Son of God again that raised the dead and performed all sorts of miracle? Why didn't he use his powers to turn stone to bread and feed people with it?

You see, your problem is that you don't know who God is, cos if you did, you will have no problem sowing. You love money more than God and that is why you hate the idea of sowing. JESUS explained it by saying where a man's treasure is, there will his heart be also.

hopefulLandlord:
Dalaman, is it your money? I was there at the service. I sowed my school fees combined with my life savings. Now I'm reaping the benefits as I'm now a dropout, my parents disowned me, I'm homeless and penniless. Glory be to the Jewish god and this pastor he sent to ruin my life

rejoice my dear rejoice for your rewards are in hell for not thinking before obeying your man of God, ooo sorry.I mean gods of man .one day you will sow your kidney and maybe your joystick

Christian church yahoo is real
lol beautiful religion

Dantedasz:
This guy is one of the most dangerously fraudulent pastors in this country.
Just see his spellbinding weapons that he uses on his congregation. Carefully brain washing them that the SEED solves their problems.
He cunningly calls their salvation a SEED.
How does a student get 500k?
This was that pastor that was banging one of his church workers,that promised a robust response that never came.
Listening to this guy I just can't comprehend how his congregation sits there and listens to his spellbinding and then get out of their seats and the stupidly donate their money to him to sponsor his rock star lifestyle...
Sickening...

I don't see anything 'spellbinding ' in the message. He only succeeded because the members of his congregation are ultra gullible

nelsonoba:


It makes sense, because even in your desperation to disprove the word and principles of Christ, you forgot to understand that before Jesus fed the 5000 with 5loaves of bread and 2fishes as you depicted in your photo above, JESUS FIRST ASKED FOR SOMEBODY TO SOW A SEED! AND A LITTLE BOY SOWED HIS 5LOAVES AND 2FISHES TO JESUS, AND THAT IS WHY JESUS WAS ABLE TO FEED THE 5000 MEN WITH IT!

Why didn't Jesus call down bread from heaven to feed those people? Why did he have to first ask somebody to sow a seed before he multiplied that seed to use it to feed the multitude? Is he not Son of God again that raised the dead and performed all sorts of miracle? Why didn't he use his powers to turn stone to bread and feed people with it?

You see, your problem is that you don't know who God is, cos if you did, you will have no problem sowing. You love money more than God and that is why you hate the idea of sowing. JESUS explained it by saying where a man's treasure is, there will his heart be also.

The quote below was taken from John 6

8 One of His disciples, Andrew, Simon Peter’s brother, said to Him, 9 “There is a lad here who has five barley loaves and two small fish, but what are they among so many?” 10 Then Jesus said, “Make the people sit down.” Now there was much grass in the place. So the men sat down, in number about five thousand. 11 And Jesus took the loaves, and when He had given thanks He distributed them to the disciples, and the disciples to those sitting down; and likewise of the fish, as much as they wanted.

Where in the passage above does Jesus ask someone to sow a seed and where does it say that the boy "sowed a seed" as you've implied? please quote the passage next time maybe my Bible is missing the passage.

Furthermore, I noticed you happily ignored the part of my comment regarding your pastor willing to go against the word of God. Please discuss.

Sometimes I wonder if God is on Holiday. Is it that he only punished Prophets in the old testament?.thieves with white collar. Sometimes i dont blame them, i blame their followers.. People perish for lack of knowledge. Emancipate your selves from religious slavery, it's the only way to free your mind.

i support you..am startled sometimes..this is unbelievable, this man should be arrested...he is not from God

Dantedasz:
This guy is one of the most dangerously fraudulent pastors in this country.
Just see his spellbinding weapons that he uses on his congregation. Carefully brain washing them that the SEED solves their problems.
He cunningly calls their salvation a SEED.
How does a student get 500k?
This was that pastor that was banging one of his church workers,that promised a robust response that never came.
Listening to this guy I just can't comprehend how his congregation sits there and listens to his spellbinding and then get out of their seats and the stupidly donate their money to him to sponsor his rock star lifestyle...
Sickening...

this is sickening, this man should be arrested, he is not from God

dalaman:
COZA Pastor telling students to sow seeds of 500k.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-7JA4SX-VuI

kramer:


The quote below was taken from John 6



Where in the passage above does Jesus ask someone to sow a seed and where does it say that the boy "sowed a seed" as you've implied? please quote the passage next time maybe my Bible is missing the passage.

Furthermore, I noticed you happily ignored the part of my comment regarding your pastor willing to go against the word of God. Please discuss.

Be there deceiving and confusing yourself with grammar you don't understand. I have shown you where Elijah explicitly asked a widow who had nothing except a little flour and oil to sow it to his life instead of doing the opposite as your mind would think. If this Elijah was a false prophet or scammer, he definitely would not have appeared with Moses to speak with Jesus on the mount of transfiguration.

Jesus implicitly asked the boy to sow a SEED, if not why was he asking the disciples if anyone there had any food? Why did he collect it from the boy if his asking was just for fun? Oga, Please go and give your life to Christ first and start studying the bible instead of studying daddy freeze and thinking you know the bible!

NOETHNICITY:
I don't see anything 'spellbinding ' in the message. He only succeeded because the members of his congregation are ultra gullible

spellbinding
ˈspɛlbʌɪndɪŋ/Submit
adjective
holding one's attention completely as though by magic; fascinating.
"a place of spellbinding beauty"
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nelsonoba:


Be there deceiving and confusing yourself with grammar you don't understand. I have shown you where Elijah explicitly asked a widow who had nothing except a little flour and oil to sow it to his life instead of doing the opposite as your mind would think. If this Elijah was a false prophet or scammer, he definitely would not have appeared with Moses to speak with Jesus on the mount of transfiguration.

Jesus implicitly asked the boy to sow a SEED, if not why was he asking the disciples if anyone there had any food? Why did he collect it from the boy if his asking was just for fun? Oga, Please go and give your life to Christ first and start studying the bible instead of studying daddy freeze and thinking you know the bible!

Satan get behind me

The story you have just written is YOUR interpretation of the Bible and NOT what the Bible says. Do you know if the food was TAKEN from the boy as opposed to FREELY given in the form of a seed? You don't! So don't assume. Don't preach! And most importantly, do not allow the devil to use you as he has used the pastor. Imagine telling your congregation that you go against the word of God!?

So, Mr Man, Don't preach nonsense that's not in the Bible. If you're going to reply me, reply with Bible verse I asked for.

kramer:


Satan get behind me

The story you have just written is YOUR interpretation of the Bible and NOT what the Bible says. Do you know if the food was TAKEN from the boy as opposed to FREELY given in the form of a seed? You don't! So don't assume. Don't preach! And most importantly, do not allow the devil to use you as he has used the pastor. Imagine telling your congregation that you go against the word of God!?

So, Mr Man, Don't preach nonsense that's not in the Bible. If you're going to reply me, reply with Bible verse I asked for.

It is people like you and daddy freeze that Jesus warned us about, telling us that in the last days, false prophets will arise claiming to do what they are doing in the name of God. People who wallow in gross darkness and ignorance, yet they make the loudest noise! Ordinary scriptures you can see before your eyes when you read about Elijah and the widow plus Jesus' feeding of 5000 with a little boy's bread and fish is what you still don't understand? Trying to twist scriptures up and down just to justify your hatred for giving/sowing. I can bet with everything I have that you are a greedy stingy human being and that is why you hate sowing so much. When you see people like me giving or sowing to church, it pains you to your bones cos you are seeing us do what your stingy life will not allow you do and you get jealous and want to make us become like you so that your insecurity will stop being threatened.

If you even go to church at all, your type are the ones who will spend thousands upon thousands every week pursuing women or indulging in parties/drinking, but when they come to church on Sunday, they drop N20(twenty naira) into the offering for God. The same God who gave you the oxygen you have been wasting since to use and commit sin instead of repenting, and later you come here to pretend you love God? You are a blatant HYPOCRITE!! YOU need to repent and give your life to Christ!

nelronaldo:
The law of giving is nature. It doesn't matter whether you give to your pastor or not. As long as you give, you shall be blessed.
However, there is nothing wrong with giving to a pastor. Yes, the Bible stressed on giving to the needy. The same bible also said "The one who receives a prophet because he is a prophet will receive a prophet's reward, and the one who receives a righteous person because he is a righteous person will receive a righteous person's reward. And whoever gives one of these little ones even a cup of cold water because he is a disciple, truly, I say to you, he will by no means lose his reward.”
Meaning if you give to the pastor, you will not only be blessed for giving but also receive the blessings of the pastor for giving to him.
The same bible also said: " If we have sown spiritual things among you, is it too much if we reap material things from you?" Who sows spiritual things among us?
I believe we should be lead by our spirit. There is nothing wrong with sowing seeds but when to sow and the amount to give should be out of personal conviction. I don't buy the idea of telling someone to sow a certain amount of money. That's no longer seed sowing but Levy.
Sowing seeds in church or giving to the poor, you must be led to do it. Don't just do it because someone said so.

Nice one, pls can I get the bible passage(s) for reference purposes. Thanks in advance.

omg. may thunder strike him if thunder really dey strike people. what kind of scam is this abeg. i swear if i was in that church, i would have insulted him badly

give the fucker groundnut see na

nelsonoba:


It is people like you and daddy freeze that Jesus warned us about, telling us that in the last days, false prophets will arise claiming to do what they are doing in the name of God. People who wallow in gross darkness and ignorance, yet they make the loudest noise! Ordinary scriptures you can see before your eyes when you read about Elijah and the widow plus Jesus' feeding of 5000 with a little boy's bread and fish is what you still don't understand? Trying to twist scriptures up and down just to justify your hatred for giving/sowing. I can bet with everything I have that you are a greedy stingy human being and that is why you hate sowing so much. When you see people like me giving or sowing to church, it pains you to your bones cos you are seeing us do what your stingy life will not allow you do and you get jealous and want to make us become like you so that your insecurity will stop being threatened.

If you even go to church at all, your type are the ones who will spend thousands upon thousands every week pursuing women or indulging in parties/drinking, but when they come to church on Sunday, they drop N20(twenty naira) into the offering for God. The same God who gave you the oxygen you have been wasting since to use and commit sin instead of repenting, and later you come here to pretend you love God? You are a blatant HYPOCRITE!! YOU need to repent and give your life to Christ!

Lmaaoooo Bros you are too much!! As I was reading your comment I was jus laffing like a mad man

You say I twist the scriptures, yet it is you who presented your own "understanding" of the scriptures not me. I asked you several times to quote the Bible verse in relation to the feeding of 5000 and sowing but you still haven't Produced anything.

I'm waiting.

And remember...

kramer:


Lmaaoooo Bros you are too much!! As I was reading your comment I was jus laffing like a mad man

You say I twist the scriptures, yet it is you who presented your own "understanding" of the scriptures not me. I asked you several times to quote the Bible verse in relation to the feeding of 5000 and sowing but you still haven't Produced anything.

I'm waiting.

And remember...

You know the truth within yourself just as so-called atheists like @HopefulLandlord and his cohorts know there is a God who created everything but they have chosen to deaden their consciences to the truth so that they won't have any feeling of guilt continuing in their iniquities. They know that if they tell themselves there is a God, it automatically means they have to accept the fact that they will be accountable for their lives before this God, and if they have to be accountable, then they know they have no reason to continue indulging in sin. But no! They love their sins. They love the life of partying/womanizing and worldly pleasures that they indulge in, and they are ready to do everything to continue with the "so-called enjoyment life", and they are willing to lie to themselves to believe there is no God, so they can have a fake excuse to continue in sin instead of repenting.

You my friend, are in the same shoes with them when it comes to the area of giving/sowing, and it is because you are a stingy person! Only Anti-Christs or stingy people get angry when they are told to give to church. Cure your stingyness and you will become a giver like me.

If you cure your stingyness, you will not be asking whether Jesus or the disciples forced the boy to give up his bread to Jesus after Jesus asked for anyone with food to bring it, cos you will see the simplicity of the scriptures in that passage, and all you will be thinking of is the fact that Jesus needed to perform a miracle of multiplication and he asked for anyone with food to donate it and the little boy SOWED HIS bread and fish for a miracle of multiplication to happen when Jesus blessed it!

kramer:


Lmaaoooo Bros you are too much!! As I was reading your comment I was jus laffing like a mad man

You say I twist the scriptures, yet it is you who presented your own "understanding" of the scriptures not me. I asked you several times to quote the Bible verse in relation to the feeding of 5000 and sowing but you still haven't Produced anything.

I'm waiting.

And remember...

Also read the scriptures below so you can call Prophet Elijah a scammer or false prophet for asking a hungry widow who had almost nothing and was about to die of hunger to come and sow seed to him!


1 Kings 17:8-16 And the word of the LORD came unto him, saying,
Arise, get thee to Zarephath, which belongeth to Zidon, and dwell there: behold, I have commanded a widow woman there to sustain thee.
So he arose and went to Zarephath. And when he came to the gate of the city, behold, the widow woman was there gathering of sticks: and he called to her, and said, Fetch me, I pray thee, a little water in a vessel, that I may drink.
And as she was going to fetch it, he called to her, and said, Bring me, I pray thee, a morsel of bread in thine hand.
And she said, As the LORD thy God liveth, I have not a cake, but an handful of meal in a barrel, and a little oil in a cruse: and, behold, I am gathering two sticks, that I may go in and dress it for me and my son, that we may eat it, and die.
And Elijah said unto her, Fear not; go and do as thou hast said: but make me thereof a little cake first, and bring it unto me, and after make for thee and for thy son.
For thus saith the LORD God of Israel, The barrel of meal shall not waste, neither shall the cruse of oil fail, until the day that the LORD sendeth rain upon the earth.
And she went and did according to the saying of Elijah: and she, and he, and her house, did eat many days.
And the barrel of meal wasted not, neither did the cruse of oil fail, according to the word of the LORD, which he spake by Elijah.

http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bible.kingjamesbiblelite

nelsonoba:


Also read the scriptures below so you can call Prophet Elijah a scammer or false prophet for asking a hungry widow who had almost nothing and was about to die of hunger to come and sow seed to him!


1 Kings 17:8-16 And the word of the LORD came unto him, saying,
Arise, get thee to Zarephath, which belongeth to Zidon, and dwell there: behold, I have commanded a widow woman there to sustain thee.
So he arose and went to Zarephath. And when he came to the gate of the city, behold, the widow woman was there gathering of sticks: and he called to her, and said, Fetch me, I pray thee, a little water in a vessel, that I may drink.
And as she was going to fetch it, he called to her, and said, Bring me, I pray thee, a morsel of bread in thine hand.
And she said, As the LORD thy God liveth, I have not a cake, but an handful of meal in a barrel, and a little oil in a cruse: and, behold, I am gathering two sticks, that I may go in and dress it for me and my son, that we may eat it, and die.
And Elijah said unto her, Fear not; go and do as thou hast said: but make me thereof a little cake first, and bring it unto me, and after make for thee and for thy son.
For thus saith the LORD God of Israel, The barrel of meal shall not waste, neither shall the cruse of oil fail, until the day that the LORD sendeth rain upon the earth.
And she went and did according to the saying of Elijah: and she, and he, and her house, did eat many days.
And the barrel of meal wasted not, neither did the cruse of oil fail, according to the word of the LORD, which he spake by Elijah.

http://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=bible.kingjamesbiblelite

Lol, error!

Is this the Bible passage on the feeding of 5000? This is the 4th time you've dodged my question.

Remember... DON'T LET THE DEVIL USE YOU!

lovingyouhun:


Bros are you joking or you're serious?

He was being sarcastic joor.

Sarcasm well done.

I saw aunty Funke in that video.. After collecting pounds, dollars and euros, 500k will be chicken change to aunty.. Still wondering why the emphasis is on money these days in church. He said he doesn't collect salary from coza anymore, so is he living on donations?