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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 7:56pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
raumdeuter: Where else is he supposed to be playing from? defense? Man city are very fluid in the attacking midfield, consequently, players rotate and switch especially around the final third. Maybe I can diminish his impact, considering he plays with the best players in the EPL, that is if I use Nihi's logic. Kroos has 4 UCL medals. 1 with Bayern and 3 with Madrid, you are here speaking about UCL semi finals ![]() 13 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 7:58pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 7:59pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
Roland17: There are superstars and there is Ororo. He is not on the same level as anybody KDB has ever played with. Kroos is fortunate enough to have played in 3 exceptional teams in world. If you consider the teams that Kroos has played in, man for man they are better than any team that KDB has ever played in. Bayern and Madris > Chelsea, Wolfsburg and City Germany > Belgium. Abi is it not the same Kroos that A40 and Dayo used to abuse regularly while he played for them? swap Kroos for KDB in those title winning teams and you can guarantee that those teams would still win the titles. Bring Kroos to Wolfsburg or City and swear that he would have the same impact? Kroos is not a difference maker. He's a good player that can synergise well with other good players. KDB is a difference maker. if you arrange a team of 10 comprised of farmers, hunters, gatemen, shoemakers, rewire and leyqute...and add KDB they have a fighting chance. 7 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 8:01pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
Nihilstjnr:It had to be Leyqute. It just had to be Leyqute. ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:01pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
liveLongNprospa: If they are ranking the key players to Madrid 3 CL wins what position will Kroos make? DOnt forget Madrid won in 2014 before he joined Ronaldo Ramos Marcelo Modric Casemiro Navas In my opinion were all more important than Kroos 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 8:04pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
raumdeuter: Kroos is literally the Pedro of real Madrid. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 8:05pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
Nihilstjnr: Leyqute no fit drink water drop cup for you ba?
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:11pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
Nihilstjnr: How many players in Madrid 11 can you actually say Kroos is more important than? Kroos in my opinion is like Ozil, a player when things are going good makes them great, If things are going against you, don't expect Kroos to bail you out. You cant play Kroos in a position that requires pace nor that has a lot of defensive responsibility. Midfielders that have these type of specific requirement have to be exceptionally creative and decisive like the modern day David Silva to even justify their inclusion I am speaking as someone who has followed Kroos career for a decade and more 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 8:16pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
Nihilstjnr: T. Kroos is not fortunate, Krooss worked hard enough to earned his place in those teams. Luck is not going to give you a starting place with 2 very big teams, amass 4 champions league trophies and the world cup. When KDB was struggling to get in a Chelsea side and flopping in the EPL, Kroos was already showing his stuff in Germany and Europe. Kroos developed faster than KDB/Ozil and has always found a way to keep his place under any coach. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 8:19pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
Eruditor:you dey under rock dey football?,I should be telling what kroos has done in his career over debruyne? Abeg tell what has messi done in his career over zaha? 9 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by diggz: 8:21pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
raumdeuter: Incase you didn't get my point earlier... in those 3seasons kdb have played in the epl with city.... haven't kroos been playing in a deeper position in the same time frame? raumdeuter: 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:21pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
Roland17: Early in his career KdB had to go to Werber Bremen when he couldnt break into Chelsea and Early in his career Kroos also had to go to Leverkusen when he was struggling to get into Bayerns team 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:23pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
diggz: No Kroos hasnt been playing in a deeper position than KDB both play as CMs with a dedicate DM behind them Both of them have a DM in Fernandinho and Casemiro 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by liveLongNprospa(m): 8:24pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
Lmao... It is very very obvious that Dayo doesn't understand simply how to explain what Kroos does.. He is only highlighting his bad side which every player has.. Oga tell me if Toni was such a carry along.. How was he able to keep his spot in these title winning teams as an important key player. I'm sure if we take the finals vs Juventus, you'll tell me Kroos was not important because he didn't score or assist. ![]() But this pedro has played major minutes in germany's road to winning the WC and 3 straight UCL winning campaigns for REAL MADRID!!! So really .. I would love love if the mystery can be unraveled to me how Toni Kross isn't as important as the other players listed bar CR7 ![]() Dayo... Nihilistjnr .. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:26pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
liveLongNprospa: Rank Madrid players of the past 3 years in their order of imprtance to the team and therein lies your answer Ozil Pedro were able to keep their shirt in Madrid Barcelona Germany and Spain 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 8:26pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
Kroos is fortunate to play at great teams?,debruynes man city is funded by an oil country,don't forget that.lol great men are often said to be lucky or fortunate that's the excuse underachievers have,but kroos nor get wahala he is still bossing midfield's at 28,I see that Bayern boy trying to sell kroos short well no wahala your stupid club sold him to us for just 25M so thank you,debruyne is still a local boy and the premier league love their locals boy's.German machines are never hyped or praised they just their job and keep on winning 2 Likes
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by liveLongNprospa(m): 8:30pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
raumdeuter:Like i said Dayo.. You really do not have a case in this issue. Like Madrid5 said, its obvious you are pained that baba left you guys to come win big with us.. I understand that.. Stop hating bruh and move on... If KDB was so good.. Why is he not been chased by Perez consistently to come displace this Kroos ![]() Una get mind oooooo!!!!! 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:32pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
liveLongNprospa: Go and check my posts even when Kroos was with Bayern like nihilist told you, I have always believed he is a luxury player 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by madrid5: 8:32pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
liveLongNprospa:brother the thing weak me oh,all this EPL fanboys and Bayern boy get serious issues,they nor just wan accept say their league's best players go chop bench for a team that has won 3 champions league in row lol. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 8:34pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
At 28, Kroos has achieved everything KBD (27) wishes for in footy life and it is not by chance. Toni developed faster than any of Ozil and KDB and handled the bright lights better and that is why he is cerebral.Toni may not be as elegant because he not playing as high as KDB, who even finds himself in forward positions. Toni stabilizes teams, an excellent ball holder, better than KDB technically and is the reason Modric is able to play with as much freedom. To me he is likened to the conductor of an orchestra. With all the flair that Madrid plays with, they need Toni to maintain the balance and that is not what KDB can do for a Madrid side, if anything, Madrid will suffer more if Toni is switched for KDB. I am shocked that some guys are carried away by the glitters especially guys who have been watching football for over 2 decades. 11 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by liveLongNprospa(m): 8:37pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
raumdeuter:And moving to madrid even made it worse.. Egbon just admit he's not your type of player. Doesn't mean he is not the best in his position in the world. 4 UCL and 1 WC.. This dude has more UCL titles than the clubs KDB has/is playing for ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:37pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
liveLongNprospa: How many CL and world cup does Pedro have? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 8:38pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
raumdeuter: Dayo just stop it already!!! Irrespective of positions, KDB plays higher than Kroos in every set up and sometimes finds himself in forward positions in comparison to Kroos who is deeper. Do you remember last season when you tried to make an argument that KDB created a goal from deep even though it was not his role/ position? Please in the name of whatever you revere don't turn this amala south. 3 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 8:39pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
raumdeuter: Pedro must have maintained a starting place and is still playing for Barcelona Stick to KDB v Kroos 5 Likes 1 Share
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by liveLongNprospa(m): 8:39pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
Roland17:Gbam.. This is the simple thing that people can't understand simply because there is no STATISTICS LIKE ASSISTS OR GOALS to use for arguments. Oya line up for your L people ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by liveLongNprospa(m): 8:41pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
raumdeuter:Would you like to compare Pedro's minutes and ratings in these tournaments to Kroos? ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 8:42pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
Roland17: Kroos was relatively lucky to be a Bayern Product - coming through at a club that is: 1. guaranteed a league title each season before a ball is even kicked 2. commited to promoting talent from it's youth ranks. Kroos talent is not commensurate with the trophies he has won. It's like saying Pedro worked hard to win the World Cup or all those medals in Barca. I'm not saying he didn't work hard or that he's not a good player, but both men clearly were carried along by their more illustrious colleagues Shebi we go dey this season. make we watch ball. 2 Likes |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by liveLongNprospa(m): 8:42pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
Roland17:No.. I'd love him to even go there.. Let's compare minutes and Ratings and awards too ![]() |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 8:43pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
Roland17: KDB playing which forward? Did you watch man city last season? 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 8:43pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
Roland17: Ronaldo is also no longer playing for Madrid. Barcelona at their peak had Pedro playing for them 1 Like |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Roland17(m): 8:46pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
Nihilstjnr: I did not say he played forward, I said he finds himself in forward scoring/ attacking positions and that is because of the how fluid City plays in the final third. They rotate and interchange roles and that is why Aguero can provide an assist from the wings against Arsenal for Bernado to score. |
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nihilstjnr: 8:46pm On Aug 14, 2018 |
Roland17: This one is the funniest yarns when you consider how long Benzema has been stealing a living at the same Madrid. ![]() Someone too will wake up tommorow and say Benzema kept his place under all caoches and so had earned all his UCL medals 1 Like |
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