homesteady:


You guys bringing up Xavi into the matter has even made me see more reasons to agree with those who are saying he is dispensable.
Like I said In my previous post, Madrid have been relying on Crosses into the box, which has little to do with midfield ingenuity. That's why Marcelo is miles more important than Kroos.
If Kroos was that good, madrid would not resort to defending and counter attacks like scared bitches whenever they meet top opponents. Barcelona never did that while Xavi was there, that's how you know how good your midfield is.

homesteady:


You guys bringing up Xavi into the matter has even made me see more reasons to agree with those who are saying he is dispensable.
Like I said In my previous post, Madrid have been relying on Crosses into the box, which has little to do with midfield ingenuity. That's why Marcelo is miles more important than Kroos.
If Kroos was that good, madrid would not resort to defending and counter attacks like scared bitches whenever they meet top opponents. Barcelona never did that while Xavi was there, that's how you know how good your midfield is.

hopefulLandlord:


Just an observation. close to 90% of those awards Xavi won are when he was older than present Kroos. Kroos already won more trophies and had more individual awards than Xavi had at 28. I'm not saying he's better than Xavi though make of that what you will

Onto the discussion

You probably weren't on that thread so you didn't see what some Barca fans were saying. the discussion started when someone was saying Deburyne is better than Kroos

some guy coutinho14 said Kroos makes 1000 accurate passes per game but barely creates any chance. asides the fact that this is false. This cheap shot at Kroos came from someone who thinks Xavi is better than Deburyne

We also brought up team and individual awards which Kroos trumps Deburyne like a he were a professor and Deburyne a primary school student. excuse was brought up about Kroos playing with Modrić, Casimiro, Schweinsteiger, Martinez, Ozil, Gotze amongst others for those team trophies then said he made those individual trophies out of those team trophies he was lucky to win by team effort. They say Kroos is playing with better players which make him look better than he really is while Deburyne was awesome at lowly Wolfsburg

Of course we brought up Xavi being lucky to play alongside Iniesta, Messi and Busquets at Barcelona while also having iniesta, Busquets and Alonso in La Roja. so Deburyne is definitely also better than Xavi



To cut the long story short, every single thing they were bringing up to diminish Kroos when comparing him to Deburyne could be used to diminish Xavi if we compare him to Deburyne too. It was just a way to show how illogical their points are as they're focused on goals and assists to compare an attacking central midfielder and a controlling central midfielder

LethargiQue:



I honestly thought Messi was the one lucky enough to play alongside xavi?

Please let our words agree

hopefulLandlord:


Just an observation. close to 90% of those awards Xavi won are when he was older than present Kroos. Kroos already won more trophies and had more individual awards than Xavi had at 28. I'm not saying he's better than Xavi though make of that what you will

Onto the discussion

You probably weren't on that thread so you didn't see what some Barca fans were saying. the discussion started when someone was saying Deburyne is better than Kroos

some guy coutinho14 said Kroos makes 1000 accurate passes per game but barely creates any chance. asides the fact that this is false. This cheap shot at Kroos came from someone who thinks Xavi is better than Deburyne

We also brought up team and individual awards which Kroos trumps Deburyne like a he were a professor and Deburyne a primary school student. excuse was brought up about Kroos playing with Modrić, Casimiro, Schweinsteiger, Martinez, Ozil, Gotze amongst others for those team trophies then said he made those individual trophies out of those team trophies he was lucky to win by team effort. They say Kroos is playing with better players which make him look better than he really is while Deburyne was awesome at lowly Wolfsburg

Of course we brought up Xavi being lucky to play alongside Iniesta, Messi and Busquets at Barcelona while also having iniesta, Busquets and Alonso in La Roja. so Deburyne is definitely also better than Xavi



To cut the long story short, every single thing they were bringing up to diminish Kroos when comparing him to Deburyne could be used to diminish Xavi if we compare him to Deburyne too. It was just a way to show how illogical their points are as they're focused on goals and assists to compare an attacking central midfielder and a controlling central midfielder

homesteady:


you and I know his post 2018 career would never be better than those 4 years I mentioned.

madrid5:
dani alves was miles more important than xavi too

hopefulLandlord:


Mind giving me the lottery numbers while you're at it?

homesteady:


Germany came last in a group with almighty Sweden, Mexico and South Korea! Ronaldo and Zidane are no longer at Madrid! The law of diminishing return would always rear its ugly head!
It's just a no-brainer to know that the peak of his career is over.

phaamsaam:
Kroos, De Bruyne, modric can't lace pirlo shoes, it is Xavi you are comparing them to, Xavi was in a class of his own, watch 2008-2012

phaamsaam:
Kroos, De Bruyne, modric can't lace pirlo shoes, it is Xavi you are comparing them to, Xavi was in a class of his own, watch 2008-2012

madrid5:
modric is far better than pirlo,that guy was very overrated,don't compare modric by comparing him with that Italian fabregas,all pass and nothing,modric very well rounded as a player.
Debruyne is a local champions
Kroos is a not different from xavi according to nairaland analyst for their sideways pass.

Sommyroy10:
Pirlo and overrated in the same sentence. Apparently, I have just started seeing things.

Olamyyde:
Anybody comparing kroos with modric must be seriously mad. Xavi is the greatest central midfielder of all time, only iniesta or laudrup can compete for that spot. Kroos isn't even the best midfielder in Madrid.

madrid5:
most of the time truth is stranger the fiction,pirlo's elegance and passing ability earned him a free pass in football,imagine this guy with lazy workrate in football today?,he will pressed to bits like teams like Liverpool or mancity,lol as bad as xavi he worked over pirlo in euro 2012,modric will do the same with ease.

Sommyroy10:
Just so we clear? we are talking about the guy that redefined a position DLP. Your assumption(s) of being pressed in "today's" football is inconsequential, because you wouldn't know that as a fact. This Pirlo did a Zlatan and not only won seria A with Milan but also took Juventus to the next level. While I agree Xavi is better than Pirlo, your reference to the Euros final is very biased. Can same be said about Sergi against madrid or Puig against Tottenham ( Eriksen)? That same Pirlo was in Euro 12 team if the tournament.
Common treat some players with respect, will ya?

Sommyroy10:
Just so we clear? we are talking about the guy that redefined a position DLP. Your assumption(s) of being pressed in "today's" football is inconsequential, because you wouldn't know that as a fact. This Pirlo did a Zlatan and not only won seria A with Milan but also took Juventus to the next level. While I agree Xavi is better than Pirlo, your reference to the Euros final is very biased. Can same be said about Sergi against madrid or Puig against Tottenham ( Eriksen)? That same Pirlo was in Euro 12 team if the tournament.
Common treat some players with respect, will ya?

madrid5:
the problem with you barca fans is your low IQ,if you had patiently followed my arguments you would notice I bought up xavi just to make a piont because most of the arguments that the local champion debruyne was better than kroos could also be used against xavi.

Olamyyde:

Who the f*uck is talking to you brah? Did I mention you? Which 'piont' are you trying to make?

hopefulLandlord:


We tend to look into the past with rose tinted glasses due to misplaced nostalgia so we don't calm down to hear people who's opinion differ from us as though We'd die if we do

Pirlo was a Regista, however he was so limited that he needed other players to do specific works in order for him to do his own work

Pirlo asides passing and freekicks was useless most of the time and that's not insulting him, its just stating facts. He needed Marchisio, Vidal, Kwadwo Asamoah, Sturaro and Pogba to a lesser extent to do the defensive work and attacking work. if these players at any point slack their midfield would be bypassed like they aren't there because Pirlo can't tackle to save his life, can't track runners, can't dribble out of trouble when it gets tight, can't get stuck in and enforce control when the chips are down, he can't carry the midfield on his back. all he's good at is cutting passing lanes then spraying accurate passes

These qualities Pirlo lack are things Modrić excel in and Modrić is no slouch at passing either even though he's not as good at long passing as Pirlo

I'm someone that watched Pirlo a lot and he was a player that can make an already awesome midfield better but would make an average midfield look way worse which is why his limitations became exposed when the Milan golden midfielders started aging that some Milan fans started wondering if he's a footballer at all

Not everything in the past has to be better than present

Olamyyde:
Anybody comparing kroos with modric must be seriously mad. Xavi is the greatest central midfielder of all time, only iniesta or laudrup can compete for that spot. Kroos isn't even the best midfielder in Madrid.

Kimbeast:

Pirlo is better than xavi .

madrid5:
pirlo is overrated he is not even better than modric

Kimbeast:

Pirlo is better than xavi .

Sommyroy10:
Mrcalcufast I see you.

haymekus:
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