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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:23am On Aug 20, 2018
Leyqute:
You guys should chill.

It's only one loss. We'll develop a strong mentality onwards and win the treble.

Haba. Too much negativity it's annoying. As a real fan, I feel like slapping people over the internet walahi angry angry

Look at what mourinho's sexy football has reduced a die hard fan to...mehn.

Ogun nile aiye sha
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 9:25am On Aug 20, 2018
Jose already has plausible deniability. Whatever happens this season. He can always say he wasn't supported by the board. If you point to last season he will simple say: city spent more money that is why they won.
Since it's almost a guarantee now that the biggest spender will most certainly win the league. Utd didn't spend much,so Utd isn't ready to win the league this season. Is what I imagine Jose would say to himself and he won't be totally wrong.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by larride(m): 9:26am On Aug 20, 2018
Leyqute:
You guys should chill.

It's only one loss. We'll develop a strong mentality onwards and win the treble.

Haba. Too much negativity it's annoying. As a real fan, I feel like slapping people over the internet walahi angry angry

Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 9:28am On Aug 20, 2018
SIRcumalot:
Jose already has plausible deniability. Whatever happens this season. He can always say he wasn't supported by the board. If you point to last season he will simple say: city spent more money that is why they won.
Since it's almost a guarantee now that the biggest spender will most certainly win the league. Utd didn't spend much,so Utd isn't ready to win the league this season. Is what I imagine Jose would say to himself and he won't be totally wrong.

I wish Jose gets retained for so long before you finally see the light

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:28am On Aug 20, 2018
SIRcumalot:

Moyes,LVG and now Jose.
Variation of drab football with not much to show for huge investment. Their is a problem.
The next manager won't fix sheet if we don't change whoever is calling the shots up there.
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Jose,is a very easy target to blame.
The simple solution is to change the people or person in charge of hiring managers.
Lol. So we can say Mourinho is a victim of circumstance? grin

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:30am On Aug 20, 2018
José caused a lot of havoc with his mouth this past season. He did the right thing in refusing to blame individual players in his presser but it's for the wrong reason.

The team is so disjointed. Pogba doesn't trust anyone and wants to do everything by himself. Attackers go hiding in matches and refuse to show to collect the ball.

Winning teams have a strong team chemistry. It's not the panacea to our problems, but it sure will go a long way.

Jose doesnt care about that. He sees his players as machines who must execute his orders exactly he way he wants. He may have tried to protect them in his last presser but that'll mean so little now because the damage has already been done months ago.

I'm still optimistic sha. If personal egos are put aside (by everyone) and focus is placed on the game. Things will start looking better.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 9:32am On Aug 20, 2018
SIRcumalot:
Jose already has plausible deniability. Whatever happens this season. He can always say he wasn't supported by the board. If you point to last season he will simple say: city spent more money that is why they won.
Since it's almost a guarantee now that the biggest spender will most certainly win the league. Utd didn't spend much,so Utd isn't ready to win the league this season. Is what I imagine Jose would say to himself and he won't be totally wrong.

Who bought Bailly and Lindelof? Fred and Pogba? Lukaku and Sanchez?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pharod(m): 9:33am On Aug 20, 2018
pkasso:
No mind elamps jare. Even without the World Cup players, United shouldn't be struggling against a team like Brighton, let alone losing.

Sir Alex hasn't said anything about the team's play under Mourinho, has he? One would expect someone like him to speak up. Maybe na because say Mourinho na im paddy.


What do you know about running a company? Sir Alex has a position in the board at united and whatever he says no matter how personal an opinion it is, it will be taken as the view and stand of Manchester United.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 9:33am On Aug 20, 2018
SIRcumalot:
Jose already has plausible deniability. Whatever happens this season. He can always say he wasn't supported by the board. If you point to last season he will simple say: city spent more money that is why they won.
Since it's almost a guarantee now that the biggest spender will most certainly win the league. Utd didn't spend much,so Utd isn't ready to win the league this season. Is what I imagine Jose would say to himself and he won't be totally wrong.
Hope you know most people are mad at Mourinho not because he didn't win the league last season or because he went trophyless? And it's not that they we want him out because he's not going to win the league this season?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 9:40am On Aug 20, 2018
femiti:


I wish Jose gets retained for so long before you finally see the light
I have seen the light,it was blinding true,but I have seen it. There is nothing like a great manager. Not at this level.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlueAngel444: 9:41am On Aug 20, 2018
SIRcumalot:
Jose already has plausible deniability. Whatever happens this season. He can always say he wasn't supported by the board. If you point to last season he will simple say: city spent more money that is why they won.
Since it's almost a guarantee now that the biggest spender will most certainly win the league. Utd didn't spend much,so Utd isn't ready to win the league this season. Is what I imagine Jose would say to himself and he won't be totally wrong.

Question, before City were the previous EPL winners the highest spenders?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Unlimited22: 9:42am On Aug 20, 2018
Shey it was on this same board that JM was hailed as the second coming of Jesus Christ?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 9:45am On Aug 20, 2018
Leyqute:


Who bought Bailly and Lindelof? Fred and Pogba? Lukaku and Sanchez?
He did. He'll also counter with the fact that we bought those players Doesn't mean you stop investing in your team. Look at our competition.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by pkasso(m): 9:47am On Aug 20, 2018
pharod:


What do you know about running a company? Sir Alex has a position in the board at united and whatever he says no matter how personal an opinion it is, it will be taken as the view and stand of Manchester United.
Sorry no vex o, Oga Company manager. That still shouldn't stop him from speaking out on matters like this. Is he happy seeing the institution he helped build go into ruins? Everybody is speaking out. Fans, ex-players. But SAF has chosen to remain quiet. Probably because he endorsed Mourinho for the job in the first place.

That's why I like my club. Nobody send anybody. Boateng fvck up, Kalle lash am for public. van Gaal do weyrey, Don Ulli change am for am. No eye-service. You mess up, you get called out.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 9:49am On Aug 20, 2018
eph12:

Hope you know most people are mad at Mourinho not because he didn't win the league last season or because he went trophyless? And it's not that they we want him out because he's not going to win the league this season?
The playing style,I get.
Their was a simple trade off when we went for Jose as our manager that few of us agree to. Play any kind of soccer you like and win us the league title.that didn't happen. And he Is still here. Why? And now we have also refused to buy him the gidigbo player he wanted. See why I said it goes deeper that whomever we hire ?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iamJ(m): 9:58am On Aug 20, 2018
ManU never needed Pogba let's be honest, that's the problem, is pobga a central midfielder or 10? Jose keeps shifting him left and right, at Juventus pirlo was able to distribute the ball well, so Pogba played ok, never saw Pogba as worldclass, even for France he didn't really do anything, the real worker was mbappe, Jose just signed Pogba to make noise, same thing with Sanchez, just to make noise, in the end your team isn't balanced because one fool feels the need to show off
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 10:00am On Aug 20, 2018
SIRcumalot:

The playing style,I get.
Their was a simple trade off when we went for Jose as our manager that few of us agree to. Play any kind of soccer you like and win us the league title.that didn't happen. And he Is still here. Why? And now we have also refused to buy him the gidigbo player he wanted. See why I said it goes deeper that whomever we hire ?
When did this trade off happen?

I can't really say Jose is a defensive coach. Some stats don't really back that notion. He is only defensive against top teams, especially when the teams have superior power. Jose had the ability to motivate his players to overstretch themselves for him, that was what I believe the board was looking at. His team will run, mark, pursue every ball, play with all seriousness. And tbh, we saw these in the first season, especially during the early months, but he can't motivate anybody anymore.

If everyone was running around, doing their best even if it's poor since we say they are poor players, nobody will complain about Mourinho. But this team don't want to play football anymore. And we can't change the whole team because of one man

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 10:03am On Aug 20, 2018
iamJ:
ManU never needed Pogba let's be honest, that's the problem, is pobga a central midfielder or 10? Jose keeps shifting him left and right, at Juventus pirlo was able to distribute the ball well, so Pogba played ok, never saw Pogba as worldclass, even for France he didn't really do anything, the real worker was mbappe, Jose just signed Pogba to make noise, same thing with Sanchez, just to make noise, in the end your team isn't balanced because one fool feels the need to show off
Baily that had his worst game yesterday, what noise did Jose sign him to make? Martial wasn't interested, Jose also signed him to make noise? Oh I forgot Lukaku was showing off too. My friend gerarahere osiso
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:08am On Aug 20, 2018
SIRcumalot:

He did. He'll also counter with the fact that we bought those players Doesn't mean you stop investing in your team. Look at our competition.

Would you put your money into a bleeding stock?

What assurance do have have that he'll play good football and win trophies if given an open cheque when those he already bought aren't playing well?

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 10:08am On Aug 20, 2018
I agree with elamps, we missed some key players, we will beat spurs and everybody go the alright.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:10am On Aug 20, 2018
weedtaker:
I agree with elamps, we missed some key players, we will beat spurs and everybody go the alright.

Correct guy.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by nitrogen(m): 10:14am On Aug 20, 2018
pharod:


What do you know about running a company? Sir Alex has a position in the board at united and whatever he says no matter how personal an opinion it is, it will be taken as the view and stand of Manchester United.

What position? Alex is not even an independent director at Manchester United!
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 10:15am On Aug 20, 2018
Leyqute:


Correct guy.
Lol, seriously yesterday na fluke.. god forbid we play like that all season.
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by BlueAngel444: 10:18am On Aug 20, 2018
SIRcumalot:

Moyes,LVG and now Jose.
Variation of drab football with not much to show for huge investment. Their is a problem.
The next manager won't fix sheet if we don't change whoever is calling the shots up there.
.
Jose,is a very easy target to blame.
The simple solution is to change the people or person in charge of hiring managers.
This might actually be the most sensible scummy comment so far.

Moyes was picked because he had consistency "they" didn't want to lose that with Alex's departure. But even consistency needs a strong back plan and support.

Then comes LVG, a man with experience managing at top level, something Moyes was believed to lack, so here comes LVG but then what went wrong?

Impatience, wanting trophies, seeing an opportunity to get a "winner" in Mou is what has brought united to where they are now from 6 seasons ago.

Apart from managerial appointment, what about squad development over the past 6seasons.

The much maligned signing of Fellaini has been the trump card in some games. Mata is still in the team, played his part atimes. Saying improper investments in squad as a factor may still be very untrue.

United haven't had a top 9 like Lukaku in a long time, yes they lost Di Maria but now you guys have Sanchez. Is it the old players from Alex's regime causing problems, no, but still this set of new players lack winning mentality or basically a clear direction.

Defence is the problem? remember a name Evans? Are united defenders all that horrible. With so many transfer windows yet the "problem" remains. Will buying a world class defender make them play as a team. United still had one of the best defence last season, correct?

United's real problem is identifying what the real problem is and the cause of the problem.

Pick a manager that suits the current available players if Mou can't help them.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 10:20am On Aug 20, 2018
weedtaker:
I agree with elamps, we missed some key players, we will beat spurs and everybody go the alright.
Who be the player,Sanchez?
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 10:25am On Aug 20, 2018
Leyqute:


Would you put your money into a bleeding stock?

What assurance do have have that he'll play good football and win trophies if given an open cheque when those he already bought aren't playing well?

If it will stem the bleeding I forking will. Right now this wound just they fester because we never do anything.

If we dont have the assurance you said why is he still here ? Is it not crazy that we would commit to a manager via contract extension when we arent sure he'll deliver on what we want and now have even refuse to give him the tools because the last ones didn't do so well.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by SIRcumalot: 10:31am On Aug 20, 2018
eph12:

When did this trade off happen?

I can't really say Jose is a defensive coach. Some stats don't really back that notion. He is only defensive against top teams, especially when the teams have superior power. Jose had the ability to motivate his players to overstretch themselves for him, that was what I believe the board was looking at. His team will run, mark, pursue every ball, play with all seriousness. And tbh, we saw these in the first season, especially during the early months, but he can't motivate anybody anymore.

If everyone was running around, doing their best even if it's poor since we say they are poor players, nobody will complain about Mourinho. But this team don't want to play football anymore. And we can't change the whole team because of one man
When it happened ? Go back to how the schism of the true fan vs fake fan for this thread begin.Starting with nyabinghi's defection.

The board has no idea what they want and that is how they will sink this already leaky united ship. Drown them,and maybe we can still salvage this team.

He is a defensive coach there is no need to skirt around that issue. Yes theere are some anomalies as their always will be but he is a defensive coach.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by iamJ(m): 10:33am On Aug 20, 2018
eph12:

Baily that had his worst game yesterday, what noise did Jose sign him to make? Martial wasn't interested, Jose also signed him to make noise? Oh I forgot Lukaku was showing off too. My friend gerarahere osiso
intelligent people will understand my point
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by weedtaker: 10:36am On Aug 20, 2018
SIRcumalot:

Who be the player,Sanchez?
Valencia, matic, sanchez, smalling, young at left back, herrera.

our strongest team consists of dis guys.


..........De gea......

valencia....smalling....any cb....young...

herrera.....matic....pogba.....

Jlingz.....lukaku....sanchez..
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Leyqute(m): 10:40am On Aug 20, 2018
SIRcumalot:

If it will stem the bleeding I forking will. Right now this wound just they fester because we never do anything.

If we dont have the assurance you said why is he still here ? Is it not crazy that we would commit to a manager via contract extension when we arent sure he'll deliver on what we want and now have even refuse to give him the tools because the last ones didn't do so well.

Everyone will be on his side if he optimally uses what's in his care. That's the koko. How sure are you that those new signings will stop the bleeding?


BTW, Gary Neville is a true fan. He also wants more defenders

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/29326/11476539/gary-neville-manchester-united-defence-currently-not-good-enough
Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by Nobody: 10:45am On Aug 20, 2018
This wailing and gnashing no be hia. This place worse than hell right now.

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Re: Official Manchester United Fan Thread:''20 Times EPL Champion by eph12(m): 10:47am On Aug 20, 2018
iamJ:
intelligent people will understand my point
What do you know about intelligence?

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