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Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by ijemishkisic(m): 7:10am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Very good! |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Acidosis(m): 7:11am On Aug 22, 2018 |
To achieve this, you need to scrap B.Sc. Anatomy, B.Sc. Medical Biochemistry, B.Sc. Physiology, B.Sc. Pharmacology and other Basic Medical Sciences aside Nursing at the undergraduate levels. They have become useless courses with no clear direction as to what graduates in those fields are trained to do in the current day Nigeria. Whoever is considering the above courses with the hope of pursuing a career in the medical field should better have a rethink. An OND in Computer Science is way better. More than 85% of graduates in those fields are now Marketers and Sales Rep with half baked Indian pharmaceutical companies. The entire Basic Medical Courses should be phased out and reinvented to: Pharmaceutics and Medical Sales. Nigeria don't have a job for you in the medical field, the few ones you have, you won't progress even if you're willing to lick the a$$es of egocentric people. Even your Ph.D won't help you. To a typical Nigerian Doctor, an MBBS is greater than a Ph.D. Ph.D holders without MBBS in basic medical colleges in Nigeria are some of the most frustrated people in the country. These are basic facts o 19 Likes |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Biggers82(m): 7:12am On Aug 22, 2018 |
When you are teaching empty brains what do you except? |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Nobody: 7:20am On Aug 22, 2018 |
This is actually dumb. There are other areas of specialty that medical students need to be very familiar with that can be taught by experts in that field. These people want to kukuma destroy the little integrity left for Nigerian medical doctors. As of now they rate low in my humble opinion. 1 Like |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Nobody: 7:25am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Many skills in the healthcare field these days are transferrable. 2 Likes |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Dollabiz: 7:30am On Aug 22, 2018 |
hmmm |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by maduxs: 7:32am On Aug 22, 2018 |
danilmo: |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Abatemtem(m): 7:32am On Aug 22, 2018 |
It has its pros and cons depending on the angle you take it from. It'll stop victimization of these students by lecturers taking the affected courses. Teaching would be practical based. Though a nursing student, I can remember when Dr Abdul Malik took me anatomy in year two. Her teachings were clinically based and I could relate when I got to the wards for postings. But this development would really being about shortage of man power and rapid exhaustion of those we have already. 3 Likes |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by GMbuharii: 7:32am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Ioannes:shut up dia and go and face your danfo chasing. Leave professionals to handle educated professional matters,thank you. 3 Likes
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Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by maduxs: 7:34am On Aug 22, 2018 |
danilmo:there is clinical even in ketmoor you can read up clinical if your wish to. When they thought you that injury to radia nerve give rise to wrist drop, it’s it a dead man anatomy? You are being economical with the truth. I am anatomist I have thought lots of young pathologist eviceration practically.we all need each other. 1 Like |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Abatemtem(m): 7:37am On Aug 22, 2018 |
maduxs:Reading it is different from someone who has actually seen it explaining to you. 2 Likes |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Tonymario58: 7:38am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Thank God for such an awesome decision The best thing that will happen to medical school recently in Nigeria. I know the clear cut differences between lectures by medical doctors and non medical doctors. |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Tonymario58: 7:41am On Aug 22, 2018 |
IFEOLUWAKRIZ: False. Your roommate didn't know the difference |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Jaideyone(m): 7:42am On Aug 22, 2018 |
capitalzero:so if I do anatomy, biochemistry, physiology up to PhD level or I even become a professor I still won't know enough in my field to teach "medical students" clowns 7 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Tonymario58: 7:44am On Aug 22, 2018 |
ola12:Ignoramus will nor kill you 1 Like |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by maduxs: 7:45am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Abatemtem:I know that clinical makes a good impression but what I’m saying is doctors should be allowed to teach clinical anatomy while anatomist should teach the rest because believe me they have depth knowledge of anatomy more than there medical counterparts. It’s like bringing war between families 1 Like |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Tonymario58: 7:52am On Aug 22, 2018 |
maduxs:I feel your pain dear I passed through medical school and I know the differences |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by capatainrambo: 7:53am On Aug 22, 2018 |
chieyine:bro anyanwu has mbbs o that man na bastard surgeon o 1 Like |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Tonymario58: 7:53am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Jaideyone:Yes, you won't know enough to teach medical students. These things are not cast on stone 3 Likes |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by udemzyudex(m): 7:54am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Lol.. Which medical doctors are they talking about, is it the ones that already have it mind to travel out of the country immediately they graduate? |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by maduxs: 7:54am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Hope it will not degenerate to doctor embalming a doctor after death. Lol
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Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by deedrizzie: 7:56am On Aug 22, 2018 |
MartinCorridon: Mr Enaibe is now Dr Enaibe (Associate Professor)..... |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by OLUOMOMOORY: 7:57am On Aug 22, 2018 |
MartinCorridon:Mr Enaibe teaches very well then perhaps due to his experience and inbuit quality however the only thing Mr Adebayo always said was "I love structures" forcing us to cram all irrevant pathways with no clinical application, in physiology I am sure we all admire prof Soladoye and medics like Dr Fawibe, Olokoba who were coming from clinical side then, that was between 2002/2004 preclinicals. Getting to clinicals you can differentiate between Dr. Ighodalo and others. I am sure this will help alot and reduce the failure rate though it is worth saying that there were many Medics who are bad teacher 1 Like |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by bornolowu(m): 7:58am On Aug 22, 2018 |
chieyine:if you are referring to prof Anyanwu in AAU, he is a medical doctor o.he finished fom a university in cyprus. He is also a gynaecologist. |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by toprealman: 7:58am On Aug 22, 2018 |
What about Nike Okundaye, the Nigeria lady without any formal education, yet teaching in a US. uni. Having an alternative health care practioner take a course/class in pharmacology is the way forward. We need a radical approach to catch up with the rest of the world. 2 Likes |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Nobody: 8:03am On Aug 22, 2018 |
I don’t think it is only medical department that needs overhauling ,every department in our universities need to be updated and flow with the time. 2 Likes |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by capitalzero: 8:04am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Jaideyone:it is not just about being a professir ir PhD knowledge. It is about clinical knowledge. we are talking about teaching what will be relevant to clinical practice. It has been found that out most clinical students have poor knowledge of basic med sciences that are relevant to clinical practice during rotations. medical students need to be taught what is relevant so as to produce better physicians. It is people like you that complain of 'bad' doctors but absolve themselves of any blame. anatomy,physiology,biochemistry ,pharmacology and pathology are foundations of medical practice. lecturers in those areas must have clinical experience to teach what is relevant. for example, medical students do not need to be loaded with information in comparative or evolutionary anatomy, students of vet medicine may benefit from that. but I still believe that PhD holders without medical degree will still be teaching courses like genetics, molecular biology and technical aspects of embryology. my advice is that if you desire to teach medical students,do your PhD in those areas I mention. Thank you. |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by capitalzero: 8:05am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Jaideyone:it is not just about being a professor or being PhD holder. It is about having clinical knowledge. we are talking about teaching what will be relevant to clinical practice. It has been found that out most clinical students have poor knowledge of basic med sciences that are relevant to clinical practice during rotations. medical students need to be taught what is relevant so as to produce better physicians. It is people like you that complain of 'bad' doctors but absolve themselves of any blame. anatomy,physiology,biochemistry ,pharmacology and pathology are foundations of medical practice. lecturers in those areas must have clinical experience to teach what is relevant. for example, medical students do not need to be loaded with information in comparative or evolutionary anatomy, students of vet medicine may benefit from that. but I still believe that PhD holders without medical degree will still be teaching courses like genetics, molecular biology and technical aspects of embryology. my advice is that if you desire to teach medical students,do your PhD in those areas I mention. Thank you. 1 Like |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Jaideyone(m): 8:06am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Acidosis:you are ignorance personified if you can conclude all those courses are useless if those courses should be scrapped based on your foolish assertions then what are we still doing with courses like marine science, biology, physics, fishery, mass com, sociology, psychology, etc since most of them are now bank marketers. before you call me a frustrated graduate of pharmacology let me tell you a little about myself. with my BSc pharmacology before I even did my masters in public health I've worked with a NGO under global fund malaria programme before it was scrapped. I've also been in the pharmaceutical industry for 3yrs. you don't say what you don't know. Indian companies account for less than 10% of the Pharmaceutical companies in Nigeria. a good 60-70% of Pharmaceutical companies are indigenous and some of these indigenous companies are even doing much better than the multinationals in the country. I've worked with an Indian company before with a new vehicle and fuel allowance of 60k/month aside salary and profit on trade. I'm currently with an indigenous company and our anti malaria is the number one in the country today (that's a big clue to the name of the company)!!! some multinationals are not even doing what we do yearly. we do over 20b in sales yearly in medications, cosmetics and toiletries. what I get as salary and commission on sales quarterly coupled with the company car and float allowance is more than what some doctors get in a whole year!!! just because you read medicine doesn't mean other courses that you see as less lucrative should be scrapped. you don't just jump into conclusion foolishly about 85% of some people working for Indian companies when you know next to nothing about the industry. I have doctor friends that are still struggling to do residency. I have doctor friends that are just managing in one small clinic and earning 50k. does that mean medicine should be scrapped? 7 Likes |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by rayornb(m): 8:07am On Aug 22, 2018 |
MartinCorridon: My Unilorin Alma mata counterpart. I hail thee. 1 Like |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by capitalzero: 8:08am On Aug 22, 2018 |
it is not just about being a professor or being PhD holder. It is about having clinical knowledge. we are talking about teaching what will be relevant to clinical practice. It has been found that out most clinical students have poor knowledge of basic med sciences that are relevant to clinical practice during rotations. medical students need to be taught what is relevant so as to produce better physicians. It is people like you that complain of 'bad' doctors but absolve themselves of any blame. anatomy,physiology,biochemistry ,pharmacology and pathology are foundations of medical practice. lecturers in those areas must have clinical experience to teach what is relevant. for example, medical students do not need to be loaded with information in comparative or evolutionary anatomy, students of vet medicine may benefit from that. but I still believe that PhD holders without medical degree will still be teaching courses like genetics, molecular biology and technical aspects of embryology. my advice is that if you desire to teach medical students,do your PhD in those areas I mention. Thank you. |
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