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Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by chieyine(m): 8:49am On Aug 22, 2018 |
capatainrambo:The Anyanwu i am talking about is in UNN |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by capitalzero: 8:49am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Jman06: on PhD matter, mdcn/npmcn/wacp/nma are on it with nuc. soon, medical students will be taught by doctors only that is best way of producing sound doctors. know that. nothing can change that. doctors will continue to prescribe drugs while pharmacists will continue to dispense and point to prescription errors. But tell pharmacists to stop prescribing and dispensing drugs in their stores. It is illegal to do the same. |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by VeeVeeMyLuv(m): 8:49am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Acidosis:The reason is that leaders and lawmakers pretend to be deaf, dumb and blind, that's the reason for this chaotic health care system. |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Jaideyone(m): 8:55am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Acidosis:Google medical sale representative openings abroad and you'll see that drug knowledge is the key requirement. medical sales is more than just walking into a shop and exchanging the product for cash!!! there is detailing where you explain the biochemistry and pharmacology of the drug to the doctors before they write prescriptions of the drugs for their patients. there are also clinical meetings and presentations too. I still see doctors that don't know secnidazole and metronidazole are in the same nitro-imidazole group!!! the only difference is their half life and that is why metronidazole is taken 3 times daily and secnidazole is 2g stat. I still detailed to a dentist about secnidazole three days ago and he didn't even know it!!! some of the doctors don't even know the application of mefenamic acid. drug science (Pharmacy/pharmacology) is so broad that professionals are needed to work as medical representatives cos there is a serious need to pass the knowledge of the biochemistry and pharmacology of the drug to doctors who are more focused on the clinical applications!!! the job of the pharmacist is not just to dispense drugs alone. no other professional knows more about the drug than the pharmacist and pharmacologist that spent years studying drug chemistry alone!!! so pharmacists and pharmacologist working as medical representatives are in the right field!!! 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Nobody: 8:57am On Aug 22, 2018 |
capitalzero:don't doctors do that during clinicals?. lets face it the best of nigerian doctors study abroad 1 Like |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Jaideyone(m): 9:00am On Aug 22, 2018 |
VeeVeeMyLuv:thank you!!! pharmacists, microbiologists and biochemists spend billions of dollars on medical and drug research yearly while the doctors mostly sit back and prescribe. same thing I told him up there |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Acidosis(m): 9:00am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Jaideyone: You're right bro ^^ |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by capitalzero: 9:02am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Jaideyone: how many research institutes do we have in the country for graduates of basic medical sciences to work? there are no research opportunities in Nigeria because there is no funding. how many rich men set up medical research foundations or donate large sum for research? tell universities to stop admitting students recklessly in those departments. why should a university admit 250 students into anatomy department? for what purpose? how would they learn? where are the bodies for dissections? stop blaming doctors for your unemployment. learn from nursing admission process, it is tightly regulated. |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Jaideyone(m): 9:02am On Aug 22, 2018 |
capitalzero:are these drugs not made by fellow pharmacists? so it is illegal for the pharmacists that also work in production to prescribe the drugs but it is legal for doctors that have no clue as to the chemical composition or even half life to so the prescription? ![]() 6 Likes |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by capitalzero: 9:04am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Ikio: best of any professional in Nigeria study Abroad. |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Jaideyone(m): 9:07am On Aug 22, 2018 |
capitalzero:you are clown and you know nothing about drug research ![]() I worked on the anti-ulcer effect of the fruit juice of annona muricata (please Google the plant) using over 200 rats for 4 different models (alcohol induced, nsaid induced ulcer and pyloric ligation model) and toxicity study to determine lethal dose, etc. while my fellow room mates and so called doctors went to APIN clinic to collect data and some doctors did questionaire project. is my project not research work? no one did that research that I did for my project work before I did it in 2011. is that not research work? is that not in Nigeria? ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by capitalzero: 9:08am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Jaideyone: who is ignorant now? Prescription: A physician's order for the preparation and administration of a drug or device for a patient. A prescription has several parts. They include the superscription or heading with the symbol "R" or "Rx", which stands for the word recipe (meaning, in Latin, to take); the inscription, which contains the names and quantities of the ingredients; the subscription or directions for compounding the drug; and the signature which is often preceded by the sign "s" standing for signa (Latin for mark), giving the directions to be marked on the container. https://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=11896 |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Jaideyone(m): 9:13am On Aug 22, 2018 |
capitalzero:so the pharmacist that spent years studying the chemical composition, lethal dose, effective dose, pharmacology and biochemistry of drugs is not in the position to tell the patient what to take? is that not prescription? ![]() prescription is not the writing on paper but the act of authorising the use of a drug. if as a pharmacist I give someone a pack of antibiotics I just prescribed!!! ignoramus!!! 4 Likes
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Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Jman06(m): 9:15am On Aug 22, 2018 |
capitalzero:No problems! Med doctors should exchange their medical practice with teaching anatomy, physiology and biochemistry. But they must be ready to get a PhD in those fields!! That is the "international best practice"! Nigerian doctors cannot change the standards just for their selfish ends. NUC should also ensure that no doctor in the academia would be in private practice because that would negatively affect their academic works. Until Nigerian doctors stop employing quacks to dispense drugs in their clinics, pharmacists would continue to prescribe drugs! After all, they are in a better position to do that given their training in pathology of common diseases! 3 Likes |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Rubyventures: 9:16am On Aug 22, 2018 |
IFEOLUWAKRIZ: ![]() ![]() |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by capitalzero: 9:16am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Jaideyone: herbal research? you are a magnificent clown? tell me active ingredient in your fruit juice? which methods will use to separate components of fruit juice according to their properties? how would you isolate each component? which methods and why? what is preclinical trial? what are clinical trials? what are different phases of clinical trials? at what healthy objects and patients involve? why is that physicians always involve in last phases of clinical trials before drugs are endorsed for human use. |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Jaideyone(m): 9:17am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Jman06:don't mind them ![]() they'll open a clinic in a bedroom flat and employ one NCE holder to hold the pharmacy for them ![]() 4 Likes |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by adisaigbo1(m): 9:18am On Aug 22, 2018 |
MartinCorridon:Enaibe got his PhD as far back as 2008 and he's now an associate professor I heard. I finished from Anatomy unilorin 2009 |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by capitalzero: 9:19am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Jaideyone: olodo. tell me various components of prescription? |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by flamingREED(m): 9:21am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Who will then be in the hospitals? Do they now want to teach or treat? Dumb, very. My last visit to BMH in PH made me realise we're badly short of handy doctors. To hear people died one after the other made me desire to turn out all my science students as medical students. 1 Like |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Jaideyone(m): 9:23am On Aug 22, 2018 |
capitalzero:is what I did not the first stage of drug research? ![]() can you go ahead and do clinical trials without first testing on animals? coming from a doctor that did questionaire as final year project while I spent almost 300k as at 2011 ![]() and yes I knew the active constituents!!! I went ahead to do HPLC (chromatography) which I paid heavily for. I did vitamin and mineral analysis to know the composition of the fruit juice!!! so because it's the first stage it's not drug research? is that not how those that spent billions on research started? you crawl before you run!!! you are the ignorant fellow here ![]() 7 Likes |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by lastempero: 9:25am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Instead of them to find a way of embracing modern way of teaching and change their old curriculum,they are busy bickering over who to teach n not to teach. |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Jaideyone(m): 9:25am On Aug 22, 2018 |
capitalzero:lol so you think I don't know how to read a prescription after I mention 2g stay up there? you are a clown the prescription is not the later writing but the act of authorising the use of the drug!!! English is a big problem for you ![]() |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by capatainrambo: 9:27am On Aug 22, 2018 |
chieyine:ok bra |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by capatainrambo: 9:27am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by capitalzero: 9:33am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Jaideyone: herbal researcher. 300k on useless project. answer my questions first. drug research my foot. your lecturers just wasted your money in doing useless research |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Jaideyone(m): 9:37am On Aug 22, 2018 |
capitalzero:useless project that I can pick up and publish now? the way you call a good research work that is meant to train a final year student useless shows how bitter and ignorant you are!!! |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by capitalzero: 9:38am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Jaideyone: Jaideyone: Jaideyone: |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by donbenie(m): 9:39am On Aug 22, 2018 |
IFEOLUWAKRIZ:Your roommate told you and suddenly you have become an authority on who is best positioned to lecture a Medical Student.. ![]() |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by capitalzero: 9:40am On Aug 22, 2018 |
Jaideyone:publish it to become one of useless professors in the country. |
Re: Lecturers Who Are Not Doctors ‘should No Longer’ Teach Medical Students by Jaideyone(m): 9:40am On Aug 22, 2018 |
capitalzero:btw are patented drugs not from herbs at the initial stage before their synthetic derivatives were compounded into tablets? ![]() seeing the term herbal as derogatory is another level of your ignorance. let me enlighten you more Google the term PHARMACOGNOSY and come and tell me what you see ignoramus ![]() 4 Likes |
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