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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 7:34pm On Aug 23, 2018
ChrisKels:


But Cameroun defies that second paragraph of urs. Check their record. I wonder how they do it. Imagine, young Onana being Ajax's numero uno. Latest news even has it that he is wanted by Marseille before the window closes. As much as I berate Ondoa, he has also proven that young African goalkeepers can take that giant step, and he is another Cameroonian.
It is rare when you compare. Even the Cameroon goal keepers, it is still rare any which way
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 7:36pm On Aug 23, 2018
andrew444:


Thats true but many of them will never get to play for nigeria
or even England grin

They will just end up in Sunday league or league two, highest Championships and that will be that cry

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:38pm On Aug 23, 2018
gamaliel9:



Guy,we were all here when Uzoho played two matches for average team Deportivo la Coruna...everybody was up in arms...invite him...invite him...two matches oooo. Then one match against Argentina was enough to convince 150million Nigerians....one match...Tell me how many matches must you play before you are invited to your national team? Uzoho even went back to equivalent of third division we still took him to w/c. What I am saying is that Sincere has shown growth...even against a strong team like Fenerbache...Musa can be invited too but invite Seth too.

That's an assumption.

I was not convinced then and I am still not convinced now.

However, in the event that the DESIRABLE is not available the AVAILABLE becomes DESIRABLE. That's how I look at Uzoho.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 7:47pm On Aug 23, 2018
safarigirl:
or even England grin

They will just end up in Sunday league or league two, highest Championships and that will be that cry

Lol you bring the word out of my mouth

Anyway watch sir komekn come for you
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 7:49pm On Aug 23, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Okay today it is KAA Gent Vs Girondins Bordeaux... In th UEFA Europa league Final Playoffs 1st leg.


Taiwo Awoniyi starts for Gent as their top 9 while Samuel Kalu will start from the bench.

That Jonathan David always replacing Awoniyi and scoring is on the bench as usual for Gent too...Wicked little man. Lol.
This reminds me of the situation at Utrecht last season when Dessers keep scores anytime he comes off the bench. Yet the coach refuses to start him.

Some players just do better coming off the bench. Nigeria too once had such-Sanni Emmanuel. He underperformed in the only game he started and that was in the Final of the u-17 World Cup which costed the whole team victory... Their type are better utilized as a super sub.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:54pm On Aug 23, 2018
TheLoneCitizen:



Everyone is a diamond in the rough, till you unearth them.
You don't have to be the best in a lower league to make an ascension.

Last year, Mattéo Guendouzi was shielding his defense against Ajaccio, this past week he prevented Hazard of Chelsea from a counter.
Richarlison in 2016 was attacking against Flamengo, in 2017 he was debuting against Liverpool.
In 2016, Ndidi was scoring against Club Brugge, in 2017 he was tackling Liverpool players.


The highlight of these players is that they were good players but not necessarily pick of the bunch till they were unleashed. When England and Manchester United let Zaha go, he wasn't an outstanding player till Ivory Coast and Crystal Palace let him express himself.

Now Anthony and Fanendo aren't the best players or top 3 in their leagues, but they are promising and more importantly tick boxes which the national team is deficient of. If you have given other strikers a chance without result , there is no crime in giving these newbies a platform, brother.

According to you you don't need to be outstanding in your club and or lower league to make progression. That proposition makes a mockery of intelligence and enthrones MEDIOCRITY.

Ndidi was the OUTSTANDING player in the Belguim league in his position, without dispute. He was not speculative potential yet to be seen as quality

Richarlison was an outstanding player for Watford in the EPL last season. That consistent performances has seen him rise upwardly and now at Everton. So you assertion is MISINFORMATION.

Please humble yourself and go backwards to when Zaha was arguably the most outstanding player as a teenager at Crystal Palace in the Championship. This guy almost single handedly took on Manchester United in the FA Cup.

A horrendous season with a clueless manager David Moyes. Almost sent him to the psychiatric hospital.

However, a return to Crystal Palace has seen him celebrated as the best winger in EPL. He has chosen to stay at Crystal despite multiple offers home and abroad. Maybe the £130k a week persuaded him, o don't know.

Adi and Nawakame tick no boxes. The basis for selection must be outstanding consistent top class performances. Not speculative lottery with the SE. The SE is for proven players not speculative assumption of possible quality.

You can not be mouse in Warri then turn Lion when you reach Lagos.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:59pm On Aug 23, 2018
ChrisKels:



If Rohr over looks proven players like Anyanwu Billing and Ebere Eze for an Academy player like KC Nwakali as a back up/repp to Mikel, I would lead the campaign to demand for his sack letter.

Very Rare.

But on this occasion I agree with you with Reservation.

But will add SACK too premature. Have no doubt, forget the public rhetoric. Rohr does not choose the team entirely by himself, there are other influences.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:27pm On Aug 23, 2018
Ighalo is likely to miss out after reports of discussion between him and the coach to leave him out for now in Ighalo's best interests. If this is so then i think it will be down to his WC showing in that Argentina game. This will be interesting following Ighalo's fine form in China... Hmmm..


#CountdownToFridayListRelease

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:30pm On Aug 23, 2018
Ayo Simon Okosun came off the bench and scored for FC Midtjylland in their first leg away game in the UEFA Europa Final Playoffs round.
Frank Onyeka also picked up an assist. Ever Paul Onuachu also played and lasted 64 mins. Was subbed for Ayo Simon who went on to score as they came from 2 goals down to draw Malmo FF 2-2.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 8:36pm On Aug 23, 2018
safarigirl:
or even England grin

They will just end up in Sunday league or league two, highest Championships and that will be that cry

Looolll... channelling the spirit, tone and language of Southgate for a moment...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 8:40pm On Aug 23, 2018
komekn:


According to you you don't need to be outstanding in your club and or lower league to make progression. That proposition makes a mockery of intelligence and enthrones MEDIOCRITY.

Ndidi was the OUTSTANDING player in the Belguim league in his position, without dispute. He was not speculative potential yet to be seen as quality

Richarlison was an outstanding player for Watford in the EPL last season. That consistent performances has seen him rise upwardly and now at Everton. So you assertion is MISINFORMATION.

Please humble yourself and go backwards to when Zaha was arguably the most outstanding player as a teenager at Crystal Palace in the Championship. This guy almost single handedly took on Manchester United in the FA Cup.

A horrendous season with a clueless manager David Moyes. Almost sent him to the psychiatric hospital.

However, a return to Crystal Palace has seen him celebrated as the best winger in EPL. He has chosen to stay at Crystal despite multiple offers home and abroad. Maybe the £130k a week persuaded him, o don't know.

Adi and Nawakame tick no boxes. The basis for selection must be outstanding consistent top class performances. Not speculative lottery with the SE. The SE is for proven players not speculative assumption of possible quality.

You can not be mouse in Warri then turn Lion when you reach Lagos.


Let's equate your criterion in parity with Anthony and Fanendo.

In 2017, Anthony won the ISREALI Best player trophy, that is not outstanding I believe. He has scored 10+ goals in the last 3 seasons, that is not outstanding I believe. He has won the league consecutively, that is not outstanding, I believe.

Fanendo has scored 54 goals in 126 appearance. He has notched consecutive 16-goals seasons. He is one of the few players in the MLS who can be payed outside the normal wage cap. These feats are not outstanding I believe.

You've opened a new can of worms by stating we need proven players, brother, John Ogu, proven? Ola Aina, proven? Etebo proven? Mikel Agu, proven? No way.

When I stated Richarlison, I meant his stay at Fluminise, he was in no way outstanding but full of potential. Yes, Zaha was an outstanding player but Ndidi was in no way the best in his position at that time, his call to fame was the volley that won goal of the Belgian league season.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:37pm On Aug 23, 2018
Kalu Samuel played 15 mins as sub in Bordeaux's 0-0 first leg away draw with Awoniyi's Gent in the UEFA Europa league final playoffs round.

Awoniyi lasted for 75 mins and was replaced by his usual mate, Jonathan David but there was to be no goal magic from the super sub today.

Second leg will be played on August 30 (next week Thursday) to decide the final batch of qualifiers for the group stage proper of the UEL.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 6:00am On Aug 24, 2018
TheLoneCitizen:


Let's equate your criterion in parity with Anthony and Fanendo.

In 2017, Anthony won the ISREALI Best player trophy, that is not outstanding I believe. He has scored 10+ goals in the last 3 seasons, that is not outstanding I believe. He has won the league consecutively, that is not outstanding, I believe.

Fanendo has scored 54 goals in 126 appearance. He has notched consecutive 16-goals seasons. He is one of the few players in the MLS who can be payed outside the normal wage cap. These feats are not outstanding I believe.

You've opened a new can of worms by stating we need proven players, brother, John Ogu, proven? Ola Aina, proven? Etebo proven? Mikel Agu, proven? No way.

When I stated Richarlison, I meant his stay at Fluminise, he was in no way outstanding but full of potential. Yes, Zaha was an outstanding player but Ndidi was in no way the best in his position at that time, his call to fame was the volley that won goal of the Belgian league season.

Come is it not the same Anthony Nwakaeme that we invited to come jam body with Cameroon you are talking about?
That guy had his chance against Algeria in Blida but he simply blew it away.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 6:35am On Aug 24, 2018
TheLoneCitizen:


Let's equate your criterion in parity with Anthony and Fanendo.

In 2017, Anthony won the ISREALI Best player trophy, that is not outstanding I believe. He has scored 10+ goals in the last 3 seasons, that is not outstanding I believe. He has won the league consecutively, that is not outstanding, I believe.

Fanendo has scored 54 goals in 126 appearance. He has notched consecutive 16-goals seasons. He is one of the few players in the MLS who can be payed outside the normal wage cap. These feats are not outstanding I believe.


You've opened a new can of worms by stating we need proven players, brother, John Ogu, proven? Ola Aina, proven? Etebo proven? Mikel Agu, proven? No way.

When I stated Richarlison, I meant his stay at Fluminise, he was in no way outstanding but full of potential. Yes, Zaha was an outstanding player but Ndidi was in no way the best in his position at that time, his call to fame was the volley that won goal of the Belgian league season.

Your approach to the discourse is at fault. Firstly, you should present the facts for consideration and to inform. However, the question is raised how good is he He failed to make any headway in Europe for the 5+ years he played here in obscure and low level league and clubs.

He goes to the MLS and has been for the past 4+ years. The impression you give he is the top striker there, but he is not. According to eurosport.com he is ranked no 29 for the 2017 season and is not ranked in the 2018 season.

Is that your definition of Outstanding, striker ranked no 29 in a league

I could go on when players are more or less finished in Europe top Leagues they go to the MLS to become ballers. I mean Drogba at 38 scored a hat-trick on his debut.

Which regards to Nawakame he was given a chance in the SE but was totally unimpressive. You could argue for more chances, but in football sometimes you get one chance to impress.

Compared to the players you have mentioned. I would say Ogu is tested and proven, I am not saying he is exceptional just satisfactory.

Ola Aina is a Chelsea player getting into the Chelsea team is a feat in itself. He went on loan and very quickly won MOTM awards and hailed as the best RB in the championship. If that's not proven and tested, tell me what is

Etebo has been a stand out performer for his club in Portugal and then his brief time in La Liga. He has come to the Championship and he is still finding his feet. It will take him time to adjust. The physicality and intensity of the Championship is not for every player. Nonetheless, Etebo has been a stand out player in the SE and Olympic team for quite some time. It is not in dispute.his quality past and present.

Mikel Agu I have reservations about but I will leave others to expand on that.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 8:45am On Aug 24, 2018
Icon4s:


Come is it not the same Anthony Nwakaeme that we invited to come jam body with Cameroon you are talking about?
That guy had his chance against Algeria in Blida but he simply blew it away.



He played only one game, brother. That game against Algeria was a friendly, nothing to play for except for Algeria to keep their dignity. How do you define "blew it away" on the strength of one game, when you've given Ighalo countless unyielding opportunities?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 9:04am On Aug 24, 2018
komekn:


Your approach to the discourse is at fault. Firstly, you should present the facts for consideration and to inform. However, the question is raised how good is he He failed to make any headway in Europe for the 5+ years he played here in obscure and low level league and clubs.

He goes to the MLS and has been for the past 4+ years. The impression you give he is the top striker there, but he is not. According to eurosport.com he is ranked no 29 for the 2017 season and is not ranked in the 2018 season.

Is that your definition of Outstanding, striker ranked no 29 in a league

I could go on when players are more or less finished in Europe top Leagues they go to the MLS to become ballers. I mean Drogba at 38 scored a hat-trick on his debut.

Which regards to Nawakame he was given a chance in the SE but was totally unimpressive. You could argue for more chances, but in football sometimes you get one chance to impress.

Compared to the players you have mentioned. I would say Ogu is tested and proven, I am not saying he is exceptional just satisfactory.

Ola Aina is a Chelsea player getting into the Chelsea team is a feat in itself. He went on loan and very quickly won MOTM awards and hailed as the best RB in the championship. If that's not proven and tested, tell me what is

Etebo has been a stand out performer for his club in Portugal and then his brief time in La Liga. He has come to the Championship and he is still finding his feet. It will take him time to adjust. The physicality and intensity of the Championship is not for every player. Nonetheless, Etebo has been a stand out player in the SE and Olympic team for quite some time. It is not in dispute.his quality past and present.

Mikel Agu I have reservations about but I will leave others to expand on that.


Brother, you're setting double standards here.

I saw this verdict on Anthony's only game for Nigeria, “Nwakaeme made a great debut, especially in such a pressure game where he was isolated up front. To play your first start, perform like that was great for him and the team, and I think the coach will be pleased.”
I didn't watch the game myself.


How would you know John Ogu is tested, if he hadn't been given a chance? Ogu spent 4 years of his career in the same club as Anthony.

Mind you, brother, Fanendo was ranked 29th on the basis of goals coring not performance. Giroud was ranked 37th for the premier league by eurosports, too.

You need to see the number of MOTM Awards Akinfewa has garnered over the years, so he is worth a try based on that benchmark.

Wayne Rooney, a constant scorer of goals, had bad seasons. In his last 53 game (2 seasons) for United, he scored 13 goals. Adi's had a poor start to 2018, so has moved to another club.


You stated he played in obscure leagues for 5+ years, how is this possible? He signed for the MLS side at he age of 24, he is now 27. When Drogba was 24, he was playing for Guingamp, it was at 26 he signed for Chelsea.

I appreciate your time.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by gamaliel9: 10:56am On Aug 24, 2018
I remember that Fenando Adi was called up...he came...he was not fielded...he went back then said in one breath ...i love to play for my country but I do not see i should travel long distance to come and still will not play...officials took notice

http://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/super-eagles-experience-was-a-sweet-and-sour-moment-says/xvo9qn8amyl6137m4zvhw81ez

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 11:34am On Aug 24, 2018
there is rumor that ex u20 defender semi ajayi who plays for Rotterdam in the English championship is in the list of players invited for the afcon qualifiers against Seychelles
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by solonnachi: 11:55am On Aug 24, 2018
When will Rohr release his AFCON list?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 12:39pm On Aug 24, 2018
cc Colin Udoh.

Uzoho, Ezenwa, Akpeyi

Balogun, Troost-Ekong, Awaziem, Bryan Idowu, Ola Aina, Kenneth Omeruo, Jamiu Colllins, Semiu Ajayi,

Ndidi, Onazi, Joel Obi, John Ogu, Etebo, Kelechi Nwakali

Ahmed Musa, Ighalo, Simy Nwankwo, Iwobi, Henry Onyekuru, Samuel Kalu, Iheanacho

That's the list.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 12:42pm On Aug 24, 2018
TheLoneCitizen:
cc Colin Udoh.

Uzoho, Ezenwa, Akpeyi

Balogun, Troost-Ekong, Awaziem, Bryan Idowu, Ola Aina, Kenneth Omeruo, Jamiu Colllins, Semiu Ajayi,

Ndidi, Onazi, Joel Obi, John Ogu, Etebo, Kelechi Nwakali

Ahmed Musa, Ighalo, Simy Nwankwo, Iwobi, Henry Onyekuru, Samuel Kalu.


That's the list.
nice and fair list.. Now let the critics rain grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 12:43pm On Aug 24, 2018
krattoss:
nice and fair list.. Now let the critics rain grin grin

Plus Iheanacho.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 12:47pm On Aug 24, 2018
TheLoneCitizen:


Plus Iheanacho.
hahaha.. Now s time for some dudes to come outta retirement and beef grin grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by zuchyblink(m): 12:51pm On Aug 24, 2018
There is one Michael Jude Ihiekwe and joshua kayode in Rorthadam
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by charlesemeka85(m): 12:56pm On Aug 24, 2018
nice!
TheLoneCitizen:
cc Colin Udoh.

Uzoho, Ezenwa, Akpeyi

Balogun, Troost-Ekong, Awaziem, Bryan Idowu, Ola Aina, Kenneth Omeruo, Jamiu Colllins, Semiu Ajayi,

Ndidi, Onazi, Joel Obi, John Ogu, Etebo, Kelechi Nwakali

Ahmed Musa, Ighalo, Simy Nwankwo, Iwobi, Henry Onyekuru, Samuel Kalu, Iheanacho

That's the list.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 12:58pm On Aug 24, 2018
TheLoneCitizen:
cc Colin Udoh.

Uzoho, Ezenwa, Akpeyi

Balogun, Troost-Ekong, Awaziem, Bryan Idowu, Ola Aina, Kenneth Omeruo, Jamiu Colllins, Semiu Ajayi,

Ndidi, Onazi, Joel Obi, John Ogu, Etebo, Kelechi Nwakali

Ahmed Musa, Ighalo, Simy Nwankwo, Iwobi, Henry Onyekuru, Samuel Kalu, Iheanacho

That's the list.


I predicted dis @AIG07...DT u shldnt expect too much changes from d world cup list..icon4s said d same too.

D list is fair..rohr got dis right. Thumbs up cool
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:06pm On Aug 24, 2018
Glad to see Semilogo Ajayi of Rotherham Utd called up. He's been impressive so far in the championship. Hopefully first of many more call-ups to follow for him.

Not surprised to see K.Nwakali. Rohr had obviously made up his mind to cap the lad after Russia 2018 immediately after that showing against Atletico madrid witnessed live by Rohr himself. Rohr saw enough. I tip him to stand in for Mikel if given a chance.

Meanwhile, who is Jamiu Collins? No one is asking about that even? Or is it a player I know but is using another first name?


As expected, Ola Aina and Onyekuru return. Kalu called up. Fair list. And Ighalo and Musa make it too. See? I told Sir Tbaba they will be called up. It was inevitable.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:07pm On Aug 24, 2018
Rohr confirms that Carl Ikeme will join the Super Eagles coaching crew but not with immediate effect. It will happen eventually but not now.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:10pm On Aug 24, 2018
Super Eagles list standbys:

- Uche Agbo

- Stephen Eze

- Blessing Eleke

- Musa Mohammed


Courtesy: Colin Udoh

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:13pm On Aug 24, 2018
Rohr says that Salisu Yusuf who is still under investigation for the bribery scandal WILL NOT be part of the technical team for the clash.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 1:14pm On Aug 24, 2018
TheLoneCitizen:
cc Colin Udoh.

Uzoho, Ezenwa, Akpeyi

Balogun, Troost-Ekong, Awaziem, Bryan Idowu, Ola Aina, Kenneth Omeruo, Jamiu Colllins, Semiu Ajayi,

Ndidi, Onazi, Joel Obi, John Ogu, Etebo, Kelechi Nwakali

Ahmed Musa, Ighalo, Simy Nwankwo, Iwobi, Henry Onyekuru, Samuel Kalu, Iheanacho

That's the list.
no Echiejile.... Thank God

The Jamiu Collins and Semiu Ajayi na just to come answer present, so no problem there. Glad to see Aina back in the fray

Glad to see Onyekuru and Kalu as well, hopefully we'll see what they can do, particularly excited to see more of Onyekuru

Not glad to see Ighalo and I hope he is there to clean boots and clap for the other players on the pitch. I look forward to seeing him out of the team before the tournament proper. Same goes for the Hero and Small Stout Ambassador

No Shehu and Agbo, hmm. Seen enough?

No Simon Moses, why?

Overall decent list, we can have a starting XI thus:

Uzoho

Aina Balogun Ekong Idowu

Ndidi Iwobi Etebo/Ogu

Musa Iheanacho Onyekuru
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by godspeed: 1:17pm On Aug 24, 2018
Onazi no dey there

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