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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:04pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe:I'm in good company if that's the case. Complete sports and some keen football observers on the thread seems to support my "view".
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:05pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe:don't mind darkelf. Nacho's own is suspect, but Ighalo deserves all the call ups. If you put Ighalo and Iheanacho in any viewing centre in Nigeria today, they will beat up Ighalo before they will even notice Iheanacho. Ighalo is the number one wasteman in that team. One of the biggest flops especially considering how old he is. Is it not shameful that he is being constantly compared to somebody that was in U17 when he started his professional career? At every level Ighalo has played for the National team he has been USELESS. He has been a proven wasteman for ages, it is not today he started being a waste of space, Iheanacho at EVERY LEVEL of national football has trumped him That is the ONLY FACT in all this talk 7 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 12:05pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
AIG07:He lost to Croatia and Argentina at the world cup. So? Thank God y'all ain't his employer. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:08pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
goldfish80: Ironic you chose to highlight my point. You can not make a tactical impact. Simple question, Did Nacho's running cause the Algerians problems, yes or no. Let us know if you are a biased analyst or not. Answer. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 12:09pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
goldfish80: My analysis was to contradict the report showing that Nacho did a lot to help the team win wit his running. So answer if Nacho helped us win with his constant running. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:11pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
AIG07: In as much as I saw 1 or 2 players I felt Rohr ought to have dropped going forward, I still feel it is a fair list. Positives are that the 4 New players injected are young players. It means Rohr is developing a team that has a sustainable structure. Echiejile is being replaced by a younger player in Jamilu Collins, Moses is replaced by another younger player in Samuel Kalu. Kelechi Nwakali joins the Midfield in place of soon to retire Mikel and Semi Ajayi we all know is an up and coming talent. I dont know what others think, but I am perfectly satisfied with the 4 Newbies included. Talking about the future. Yes you are right, there has always been a future that keeps shifting. Which is why I ask TheSuperNerd about '' The New Dawn'' he said is not here yet that we are getting closer to. He is yet to give me a response till date. ![]() Team building takes time. The French Team that won the WC didnt just get there over-night. Same with the Belgian, Croatian and English teams of today. Lets give Rohr a chance and see how he will build this team. These AFCON qualifiers will surely determine a lot of things. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:13pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
darkelf: We want to assume that there is some rational structure to player call up. Beyond subjective preference. Otherwise what's the basis for call, past youthful glories ![]() It's a slap on the face of players who are doing far better things in top flight football in thier club and league. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Certitude(m): 12:15pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
edi287:The nigga doesn't press and doesn't drop deep. He play even behind the defence line when we are with the ball, and without the ball leaves pressing for Mikel who is supposed to be behind him. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:15pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
darkelf: My view you need a more holistic view. It's for that reason I am not keen to talk about players I have not seen in depth. Sometimes over a season live and in training. Video clips are too easily contrived these days. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:16pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
History will not remember hold up play. After all this baseless argument, the only thing history will remember is statistics and acts. Ighalo will be remembered for missing vital goals at the 2018 World Cup, because he will most likely never redeem himself. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:17pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: No offence to you but this particular line of argument makes you sound like....let me just stop there though. But just know that apart from you, and one or two other fanboys, nobody else in their right senses would ever assume that Iheanacho, with a rating of < or = to 5 in that match was one of the reasons why we won that game. If that's the case then why was everybody bashing Etebo after that SA game, he ran a lot more than Iheanacho |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by goldfish80(m): 12:18pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe:Kelechi didn't have anything to do with that win as far as I'm concerned, the result won't have been different if you lead the line in that game. Moses gave Nigeria the win with his forays down the left flank and exquisite finishing which Algeria had no answer to. In between the Moses goals was the fortuitous Mikel obi goal, which was as a result of the Algerians switching off totally. Kelechi was a mere apparition in that game. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:18pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: If Ighalo and Obagoal were in Leicester they would essentially relegate KC to the U23's. (and the KC transfer fee was not in consideration) |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:20pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Icon4s: When you talk about good teams do not include that English team. They lost against all the decent opposition they faced bar none |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:22pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Mickael2: Oga, they are still a very good side. What then you will say of Germany, Spain and Brazil? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:23pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
andrew444: Isaac Success was so impressive in pre season that not one Championship club, made a serious quest to get him on loan. If I use the term " Waste Man " many get offended. Football is a short term career, you do not get many chances. What's saving Isaac is the huge transfer fee that Watford want to recuperate by hook or crook. If not he would have been let go as bad market and an embarrassment. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:24pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Icon4s: Which notable team was in England's WCQ group? I am waiting which notable team was in England's WC group? did they not lose against that team? I an waiting. which notable team did England meet in the knockout stage? did they not also lose to all of them? 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:29pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Mickael2: Oga, which ever way you look at it finishing in top 4 in the World Cup is no mean fit. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 12:30pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Mickael2:that England team na scam, Kane is the biggest scam of them all 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 12:31pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Joebie: If a player should be invited only based on club performance, rather than on the strength of past national performance, then what's Etebo doing in the squad? You don't run a national team on trial and error, so just because Ospina had a subdued season for Arsenal, he shouldn't have made it into the Colombian World Cup squad? They would have lost a good GK due to unrealistic theories. A national team is ought to be judged on pragmatism not idealism. When Joachim Low played the Confederation Cup, he invited only young new faces, but he also brought in two proven players Emre Can and Shkodran Mustafi. As I said Joel and Onazi might not start, but they were invited so if the midfield fails, the coach has proven and known players to turn to. Not that he turns to the bench and sees another Ebere Eze or what's-his-face. Onazi isn't bad in my opinion, just had a bad day. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 12:36pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
safarigirl: ![]() This must be a sarcastic comment. ![]() Wait, someone is coming for you ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:37pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
It's not surprising to me that the almost hysterical calls for Sadiq Umar have become TOTALLY SILENT. Dude has gone to Rangers and has been unable to show his outstanding physicality as some described him too be. He was being compared to Tega Abrahams and an option in comparison to Ighalo. I long ago said he wasn't good enough for league 1 and I was lambasted. At Rangers Oviemuno is the first choice midfielder and is making waves. I believe Umar may come good if given time but at the moment he has a lot to learn. Gérard described him as unfit. Meanwhile there are no calls for Oviemuno but we are inviting a youth player to the SE. After the Salisu scandal these type of selections open us up to claims of unwholesome practices. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:40pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Mickael2: They finished 4th with Juju abe. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 12:40pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Certitude:It's not a regular occurrence! That's my point. I'm not denying he was piss poor at friendlies and the WC proper...I personally feel he was struggling with sharpness. But when he is on form, he is easily our best choice as a LONE STRIKER. If Rohr permanently switches to a 3-5-2, then I'm cool with dropping him....but not when we play with one striker. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 12:41pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
komekn: Lol, controversial komekn at this one again Yes you made a point and I agree with some of what you said but how can you say no championship club came for success ? You know Aston villa wanted to get him on loan but watford refuses to sell because of they could not get their striker striker target from Nantes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:43pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Your past national team performance should be in present continuous terms. Etebo gave a good account of himself at the Mundial. You can’t be rewarding players based on that they did in 2016/2017 when since then they have been poor. Like I said earlier, we can only conclude that Etebo’s form has dropped when we assess him in the National team. For uncapped players, we can only judge from recent club performances. Modified You seem to be making a different argument. I’m speaking of building a formidable bench that pushes the regulars constantly. No be trial and error. TheLoneCitizen: 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:45pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Icon4s: You are an expert on FIFA rankings let me ask you England defeated Panama and Tunisia and lost to Belgium, Croatia and Belgium again, how exactly did their FIFA ranking increase the way it did? OK relate that to 2010 when we actually beat Bosnia that was in No10 as at then, we beat them but it didn't even reflect what do you have to say? It's baffling that we are buying what they are selling to us 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by edi287: 12:48pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Joebie:This was the point I was trying to make when I said Nacho wasn't in top form. But for some strange reason, it was seen as taking a jab at him. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheLoneCitizen(m): 12:54pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Joebie: You stated "The big positives is that Echiejile has been shown the way out. But if for example Collins cannot threaten Idowu’s place, we want to see what Deji can do right away. If Deji can’t, let’s see ikwuowem right away. If Ikwuowem fails, let’s see Duru right away.et it rotate until we have another viable option. I mean this for all the playing positions. The regulars should be pushed constantly. That’s my position." That's trial and error. Look at Leighton Baines of Everton, he is facing new competition from Lucas Digne, but he doesn't just see his position taken outrightly, he is eased out of the squad. If you want Onazi to be out of the team, you don't just stop inviting him, you ease him out of the squad, these are senior players. Germany can't just stop inviting Tony Kroos, look at the way Nainggolan was eased out of the Belgian squad. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by darkelf: 12:57pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
safarigirl: See ehn safari, I am totally against ighalo's call-up. In fact, the guy should have just retired by himself after the world cup The reason I talked that way about nacho is because I feel the dude can do way better than his current level. I mean, a few years ago, he was rated as a potential world-class player but truth is, he has not lived up to expectations in recent times. Therefore, nacho has to repay the faith Rohr has in him by giving us good goal or assists returns in the GWG. That's all I mean. I apologize for the strong word "Scam" I used earlier to describe nacho |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:00pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Mickael2: Are Tunisia and Panama the only countries they beat? Did they not beat Colombia and Sweden? And to the bolded, you mean 2014. Matches won earn you points. We only won 1 match in 2014 but this English team won 4 matches! Is that not enough to push them far? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:04pm On Aug 25, 2018 |
Watching Jamilu Collins.. Second half about to start. I did not watch the first half. |
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