How do u determine overall quality? That’s the crux of the matter.

Onazi was a regular at Lazio, but has faired badly for a Super Lig mid-table team.

tbaba1234:


I made it clear. Overall quality not individual player quality.

Agbo was a relegation team player in la liga but is playing for one of the best teams in Belgium.

safarigirl:
based on one website ratings?

Here you go, another rating between he and Mkhitaryan.

No disrespect but I'm pretty sure talksports is alot more credible than this blogger you quoted, who could have posted that from his mom's bedroom.

Flawed assessment. I mentioned something he did of note. He was not the weak link in attack.

goldfish80:

Exactly, based on the ratings, Iwobi was clearly rated the worst player for Arsenal.
This is by no way an attack on Iwobi but truth must be told at all times, irrespective of who is involved, be it your favorite player or least favourite player.
We owe that much to ourselves as least.

Joebie:
How do u determine overall quality? That’s the crux of the matter.

Onazi was a regular at Lazio, but has faired badly for a Super Lig mid-table team.

As a whole, there are more quality players in serie A than in the Super Lig. That is overall quality

Is Onazi of 2013 , the same as today? Even Onazi's greatest fans will tell you that there has been a depreciation in quality.

Mickael2:



When and where did I say Vardy scored in their last game or even made reference to their last game? I recommend you read properly before you type.

if Iheanacho did all these things you said then I guess the coach is a fool for subbing him for a winger who has at least some pace that can be used or why did he get the lowest rating according to Skysports abi them too get bad belle?

Did you watch at all? how many chances like you said did vardy had in the last home match?, is it not the more chances u get the more likely you score, your statement made it seem like vardy had goals, the coach brought him for tactical reason, may be to get at least a draw, albrighton is a more defensive than attacking.

goldfish80:

No disrespect but I'm pretty sure talksports is alot more credible than this blogger you quoted, who could have posted that from his mom's bedroom.

I also have ratings from express.co.uk and mirror.co.uk

Ratings is based on PERSONAL OPINION.

Talk sports is the only site where Iwobi is supposedly the least ted player. You needed some junk rating to support your wailing, so you passed up on other sites to find the opinion YOU most agree with. You don't even know who the blogger is, but you assume your talk sports is superior.

Both you and talksports don't know what you are talking about.

sontoly:


Did you watch at all? how many chances like you said did vardy had in the last home match?, is it not the more chances u get the more likely you score, your statement made it seem like vardy had goals, the coach brought him for tactical reason, may be to get at least a draw, albrighton is a more defensive than attacking.

I am trying to get your point and why exactly you are hitting on this last match. In the last match how many minutes did Vardy spend on the pitch? I am telling you that Vardy would have been a lot more effective in this game with pure pace, what concerns the last match? Or is it that you can't read what I have been typing or you have just decided to say what I do not understand?

Let me know if you actually watched the game. when Albrighton entered who pushed forward?

Joebie:
Flawed assessment. I mentioned something he did of note. He was not the weak link in attack.

i have posted three other sites that supported that Iwobi was decent, but goldfish no go gree. If it does not support his opinion, it is wrong.


Thank God we all have access to internet, let nobody come and feed us one sided opinions and sell them as facts.

90 min football also does not rate Iwobi the worst player.

It is obvious that the sham site he posted here, employed someone on a codeine diet to rate players.

edi287:

Aubamayeng doesn't have Ozil and Welbeck to compete with.
Emery benched Ramsey after a poor performance yet you think it's Iwobi he wouldn't bench?
Oya tell me why him sub Iwobi?

Aubameyang is competing with Lacazette who put up a sterling performance today, I suppose Aubameyang should also be kept on his toes abi?

Like I said, talk another thing

safarigirl:
Aubameyang is competing with Lacazette who put up a sterling performance today, I suppose Aubameyang should also be kept on his toes abi?

Like I said, talk another thing

Funny how he subbed the same Aubamayeng. Iwobi at the moment is essentially starting in place of Ramsey.
How long do you think that will last?

goldfish80:

No disrespect but I'm pretty sure talksports is alot more credible than this blogger you quoted, who could have posted that from his mom's bedroom.

Ratings are personal opinions.

edi287:

Funny how he subbed the same Aubamayeng. Iwobi at the moment is essentially starting in place of Ramsey.
How long do you think that will last?

which Ramsey?

The Ramsey that started in place of Ozil today abi another Ramsey? The Ramsey that came on for Ozil in their last game? You don't even know who is competing with who, yet you are talking with confidence. It is Ozil and Ramsey that are competing for a spot.

Do you even know where Iwobi plays? Abeg, next time if you no start match, just leave am.

edi287:

Funny how he subbed the same Aubamayeng. Iwobi at the moment is essentially starting in place of Ramsey.
How long do you think that will last?

Iwobi was really good in the last game and was ok today. It has been a decent start to the season.

Some people thought he will not even get a look in.

tbaba1234:


Ratings are personal opinions.

leave him to be choosing which rating is relevant and which isn't. I have shown him four other different ratings thag throw that rubbish he posted inside the dustbin, but e no see those ones.

Busy touting personal opinion as law.

tbaba1234:


Iwobi was really good in the last game and was ok today. It has been a decent start to the season.

Some people thought he will not even get a look in.

shey it was the same people telling us Arsenal wanted to offload him to Lazio

safarigirl:
which Ramsey?

The Ramsey that started in place of Ozil today abi another Ramsey? The Ramsey that came on for Ozil in their last game? You don't even know who is competing with who, yet you are talking with confidence. It is Ozil and Ramsey that are competing for a spot.

Do you even know where Iwobi plays? Abeg, next time if you no start match, just leave am.

Go and look at the starting line up against City before you talk.
If Ramsey comes in, he plays in the middle with XHAKA - Guendouzi /Torreira. Ozil moves to the right and Mkhitaryan moves to the left.
Do you really think Ozil and Ramsey are competing for the same position??

tbaba1234:


Iwobi was really good in the last game and was ok today. It has been a decent start to the season.

Some people thought he will not even get a look in.

I didn't watch the first half but for Emery to sub him off and leave Mkhi says something.
They'll be nothing surprising if he gets benched in the next game when Ramsey returns.

edi287:

Go and look at the starting line up against City before you talk.
If Ramsey comes in, he plays in the middle with XHAKA - Guendouzi /Torreira. Ozil moves to the right and Mkhitaryan moves to the left.
Do you really think Ozil and Ramsey are competing for the same position??

i am telling you what obtains the last two games and you are telling me to go to the game against City.

For someone who sleeps beside Emery, you obviously don't know as much as you think you do of him

safarigirl:
i am telling you what obtains the last two games and you are telling me to go to the game against City.

For someone who sleeps beside Emery, you obviously don't know as much as you think you do of him

And I am telling you Iwobi only started today because Ozil was ill. Simple.

edi287:

I didn't watch the first half but for Emery to sub him off and leave Mkhi says something.
They'll be nothing surprising if he gets benched in the next game when Ramsey returns.

Ramsey was in THIS game and he did not get benched. Which return is Ramsey returning?

The confidence with which you guys just talk nonsense here ehn.........better fuel your gen next week and start match from the beginning.

You did not watch Iwobi at all, but you assume because he was subbed at HT he was awful. See as some of una dey reason. Based on what are you making these flawed assertions?

When they call you guys haters now, you will be forming yeye best interest

safarigirl:
Ramsey was in THIS game and he did not get benched. Which return is Ramsey returning?

The confidence with which you guys just talk nonsense here ehn.........better fuel your gen next week and start match from the beginning.

You did not watch Iwobi at all, but you assume because he was subbed at HT he was awful. See as some of una dey reason. Based on what are you making these flawed assertions?

When they call you guys haters now, you will be forming yeye best interest

Iwobi started because Ozil got injured. I actually take getting called a hater as a compliment on here.

edi287:

And I am telling you Iwobi only started today because Ozil was ill. Simple.

was Ozil also ill when he started last week?

It is Ramsey that started because Ozil was ill

edi287:

Iwobi started because Ozil got injured. I actually take getting called a hater as a compliment on here.

When Ozil started last week, Iwobi started against Chelsea. Ramsey came on as a sub for Ozil.

This week, Ozil was ill and Ramsey took his position, none of this affected Iwobi. If you don't know somtHing, swallow your pride and ask questions.


Your argument is baseless and wrong and like I said, you obviously need to start watching games, you must be getting your match news from some random beer parlour gist

safarigirl:
was Ozil also ill when he started last week?

It is Ramsey that started because Ozil was ill

Did I say there wouldn't be games he would start?? Ramsey and Ozil will start alot of games. 75 percent of the time, it'll mean that Iwobi is benched unless one of Xhaka, Guendouzi and Torreira is injured.
Don't tell me about a team I been following since I was 6

safarigirl:
When Ozil started last week, Iwobi started against Chelsea. Ramsey came on as a sub for Ozil.

This week, Ozil was ill and Ramsey took his position, none of this affected Iwobi. If you don't know somtHing, swallow your pride and ask questions.


Your argument is baseless and wrong and like I said, you obviously need to start watching games, you must be getting your match news from some random beer parlour gist

If you don't know how Emery operates or followed Arsenal during pre season, just go sit somewhere.
Ramsey and Ozil are both part of his 5 captains. If you think Iwobi will have a regular run while Ozil and Ramsey drag for a spot, then it's obvious you don't know how Emery sets up his team or even Ramsey's main position

edi287:

Did I say there wouldn't be games he would start?? Ramsey and Ozil will start alot of games. 75 percent of the time, it'll mean that Iwobi is benched unless one of Xhaka, Guendouzi and Torreira is injured.
Don't tell me about a team I been following since I was 6

Wenger was obviously the coach when you were following them

This is Emery's team, not Wenger's team and since Emery has only played 3 league games this season, your idea that you know this team is laughable and ridiculous.

You don't know anything. This is not Arsene Wenger's Arsenal, so don't come here and be whining yourself that you know anything

edi287:

If you don't know how Emery operates or followed Arsenal during pre season, just go sit somewhere.
Ramsey and Ozil are both part of his 5 captains. If you think Iwobi will have a regular run while Ozil and Ramsey drag for a spot, then it's obvious you don't know how Emery sets up his team or even Ramsey's main position

stop deceiving yourself.

We are talking about the main league and you're telling me about pre-season games. Go siddon abeg. You know team, you know team, but you no know anything about their last two games.


Collect your L and go sleep. Na people like you dey peddle news say Emery go offload Iwobi before the season started. You will still collect another L when Iwobi proves you wrong.

safarigirl:
Wenger was obviously the coach when you were following them

This is Emery's team, not Wenger's team and since Emery has only played 3 league games this season, your idea that you know this team is laughable and ridiculous.

You don't know anything. This is not Arsene Wenger's Arsenal, so don't come here and be whining yourself that you know anything

But I know how Emery sets up and how he intends on using Ramsey.
He'll either play a 4-3-3 with Ramsey as a CM or a 4-2-3-1 with Ramsey as a 10 and Ozil out wide.
Ramsey and Ozil are not competing for the same place.
Anyhow you'll see for yourself in the next few games

Mickael2:



I am trying to get your point and why exactly you are hitting on this last match. In the last match how many minutes did Vardy spend on the pitch? I am telling you that Vardy would have been a lot more effective in this game with pure pace, what concerns the last match? Or is it that you can't read what I have been typing or you have just decided to say what I do not understand?

Let me know if you actually watched the game. when Albrighton entered who pushed forward?

I wont reply you again, cos if it was nacho who got frustrated like vardy did and got a red, you wld have roasted him, my point is, nacho did enough today and got an assist so take it that way and give him credit for it.

safarigirl:


I also have ratings from express.co.uk and mirror.co.uk

Ratings is based on PERSONAL OPINION.

Talk sports is the only site where Iwobi is supposedly the least ted player. You needed some junk rating to support your wailing, so you passed up on other sites to find the opinion YOU most agree with. You don't even know who the blogger is, but you assume your talk sports is superior.

Both you and talksports don't know what you are talking about.

You're passing expert opinion on a game you didn't watch. How on earth do you do this?
I commot cap for you.

safarigirl:
stop deceiving yourself.

We are talking about the main league and you're telling me about pre-season games. Go siddon abeg. You know team, you know team, but you no know anything about their last two games.


Collect your L and go sleep. Na people like you dey peddle news say Emery go offload Iwobi before the season started. You will still collect another L when Iwobi proves you wrong.

Ramsey and Ozil are not competing for a place. No amount of Iwobi love will change that.
Ramsey and Ozil have been available together for 2 games and they both started one and Ramsey got dropped for the other.
Ramsey and Ozil are two of the biggest attacking players in the team and will both start together when they're fit. Facts!
As usual, it's not surprising you're tagging me an Iwobi hater because I've said something about him that you didn't like..
Oh well...it is what it is

edi287:

I didn't watch the first half but for Emery to sub him off and leave Mkhi says something.
They'll be nothing surprising if he gets benched in the next game when Ramsey returns.

In the game against Chelsea, Iwobi was subbed. It was obvious that he was looking exhausted in that game. So performance was not necessarily the reason for that substitution because he was one of Arsenal's better performers.

Ramsey is not in direct competition with Iwobi.