okwabayi:
What sort of Mother Of All Derailments is taking place here?
I only visited this thread looking for Kanwulia's post. I want to tell her if I get one night with her [and maybe a friend of hers] I'll give my life wholly to Christ.

UjuJoan2:


I don't know on what statistic you're basing your conclusions, that working women only provide for themselves and not for their families. Because that's just wrong.

The fact that women have been made to believe that providing for the family is the man's job is the main reason why this change is needed, because the men are over worked and under unreasonable pressure. Which is what leads most of them to an early grave.

My husband is under 40 and already hypertensive. The sheer amount of pressure on men in the society is ludicrous. Most of them bring it on themselves by assuming undue hardwork and relegating women as unproductive. Women thrive in work places these days and if the men are willing to accept their contribution and treat them as equal in every area, including domestic, this pressure wont be so much on them.

At least you agree with me on something so we'll just agree to disagree on the others

UjuJoan2:


And yet countless women ate breadwinners in their families. How do you expect them to defer to their husbands as the dominant gender, when they probably work harder than he does and provide more than he does.

I don't see myself as a feminist, but I think people should be recognized for what they are worth, and not sidelined based solely on thier boilogical make up.

I'm a woman married and living in my husband's house. And yet when some structural work needs to be carried out in my father's house, I contribute. The idea that I am somehow not worthy of inheriting anything from my father, and yet I contribute equally with my brothers who will end up with the whole inheritance is completely unfair don't you think?

Let's face it, there's no 'evidence' of dominance. What we have is a long history of imagined superiority, based solely on a factor we have no influence over.

It's the same reason why my female boss doesn't get the respect she earend, even though she came out the best candidate out of the all male applicants. It's the same reason I took my male colleague for lunch on his brithdady and the waiter brought the check to him, even though I clearly placed the order. It's the same reason people think women stay with abusive partners because the soeciety only see women Divorcees as failures, when in actual fact it takes both male and female to make a marriage work!

Obi1kenobi:


There are no Osus in Idemili, but keep on ranting. As I said earlier, you're too easy.

Now the joker's new conspiracy is linking me to another moniker that must have run circles round him before. Whatever you say, babe.

UjuJoan2:


So is marriage some kind of bondage/prison for women?

I really don't care about Chimamanda and honestly, I've not even read most of her books. But we live in a society where people see women are second class citizens, not because of their pedigree, but because of their biological make-up. The only reason why you men are against changing this is because you are the sole beneficiaries of this discrimination.

ObinnaT:
Lol, you have a lot of time at your beck. I think he is referring to me with his concocted slanders. As you can see, you buried him in an argument hence why he resorted to ad hominem and linking you to another person. I have been off Nairaland for so long, and I decided to type my former name - because I normally visit as a visitor - on the search box, viola I saw this.
Well, he is the same person as the original moniker and was formerly known as Lezz.

A forty year old man that can't get over Nairaland. Phew, I no get time.

EVarn:
Well, I think you need to understand that the human society is inherently patriachial. To put it in a pedestrian way; I am sure that as a married woman, you bear your husband's name(hence, you share his identity), before you got married, you bore your father's name. Your children will also bear your husband's name, the only thing you have to offer them is your genes and the occassional dose of maternal affection.



Even when it comes to choice of children, I am sure you would be deeply disturbed if you have no male child, even after having a gaggle of girls.
Now, take a look at religion(which is a key factor of social dynamics), try imagining God as a woman, with the whole breasts and butt business. But I am sure you can conveniently picture God as a bearded old man with furrowed brows, sternly peering down at the wretched deeds of mortals.

Even among most animals, the male is the dominant species and central to all social relations.


So, it is a matter of how the human society is structured, women are fundamentally secondary in the society. The issue of feminism is a misguided attempt at interrupting the social order, which is structurally impossible. Energy should be channeled at getting gender equity, but equality is a pipe-dream and sociologically radioactive. Like Postmann, Fearlez and co have said, women have their place in the society, but trying to displace the patriachal order of the species is injurious and unacceptable.

Fearlez:


The irony is that marriage benefits women more than men. It provides them security, protection and respect, while men lose their masculinity and dominance,work twice as hard and experience decline in testosterone. ( According to new scientific findings)

Fearlez:


The irony is that marriage benefits women more than men. It provides them security, protection and respect, while men lose their masculinity and dominance,work twice as hard and experience decline in testosterone. ( According to new scientific findings)

ireneidiva:

Marriage has provided respect, protection and security to Linda Ikeji and likes right?

Fearlez:
with the millions of womenfolk who have enjoyed the benefits of marriage, you chose a solitary figure, who at best is an exemption to the rule as the basis to dispel my assertion.

What a thinking!

ireneidiva:

Oga, point out two of this womenfolk we know that are enjoying this 'security, respect and what is that other thing you said' from marriage.

Fearlez:


Over 90 percent of women in Nigeria have marriage as their top priority. It's like asking me, to point out two people who need improved electricity in Nigeria. What annoyingly, mentally inelastic question this morning!

Most Nairaland force on us the illogical procession of emotional ranters so often?

My morning is inescapably ruined I fear.

ireneidiva:

Marriage has provided respect, protection and security to Linda Ikeji and likes right?

SalomonKane:
the likes of who and who? Please give us names and not 'the likes'.

ireneidiva:

You ignored Linda yet you want other names. Ask me again.

ireneidiva:

Because all your family members have marriage as their priority does not make marriage give women security and all that. Nobody cares about how your morning is going. Learn to have intelligent arguments.

Fearlez:
you must be undergoing your monthly excessive bleeding reducing blood and oxygen supply to your cranium case if you could stand before the world and deny the obvious.

Or you could just be a badly programmed AI undergoing test-running.

Or worse, a failed project of gender reassignment experiment experiencing mixed hormonal conflict of gender affinity.

But whatever, you're a dumb person incapable of holding arguments of this sort.

You are requested not to contact me via mentions further as I have elected not to bother with a your pain.

SalomonKane:
I take it you don't know, that's why you can't give names.

Learn not to type faster than your fingers next time.

SalomonKane:
I take it you don't know, that's why you can't give names.

Learn not to type faster than your fingers next time.

Fearlez:
never seen a more baser fool than that one.

ireneidiva:

I'm ignoring you because you have nothing to say. If you had said something about Linda, I would give you 100 names if you want. There is just no sense in replying you anymore. bye

Fearlez:
never seen a more baser fool than that one.

ireneidiva:

Marriage has provided respect, protection and security to Linda Ikeji and likes rught?

Fearlez:
you must be undergoing your monthly excessive bleeding reducing blood and oxygen supply to your cranium case if you could stand before the world and deny the obvious.

Or you could just be a badly programmed AI undergoing test-running.

Or worse, a failed project of gender reassignment experiment experiencing mixed hormonal conflict of gender affinity.

But whatever, you're a dumb person incapable of holding arguments of this sort.

You are requested not to contact me via mentions further as I have elected not to bother with your pain.

postmann:

Girl, you're the casualty of the times -- the abrasion of sound judgement occasioned by the ancient vice of greed and materialism.

ireneidiva:

Lol. All this talk for one innocent question? What is it about feminism that threatens men? Okay. Done with this thread. Cant deal mehn.

Hanseel1:


Honestly, I don't understand why most Nigerian men are so interested in controlling women.