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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 3:19pm On Aug 30, 2018
Of Europe.You pathetic education shines
Kazikazi:
You are dreaming! Were did u got that 40%? Whom are u trying to cheat? Now look this

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 5:05pm On Aug 30, 2018
Kazikazi:
You are dreaming! Were did u got that 40%? Whom are u trying to cheat? Now look this

Stop dancing around the question, how much do you earn $$ from agricultural exports? How much is sisal worth? Simple questions.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 7:45pm On Aug 30, 2018
Iamleefact:

Looks like some European airport. Hurray to our sister Ghana

That Ghanaian airport is impressive to say the least. cool
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Jay254(m): 8:39pm On Aug 30, 2018
gallivant:


That Ghanaian airport is impressive to say the least. cool

Very impressive

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by emeka1101: 9:42pm On Aug 30, 2018
Meanwhile nigerian women in Ghana as usual...

Just yesterday

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 11:55pm On Aug 30, 2018
The so called queens of Africa volleyball have been eliminated from the Africa women u-20 volleyball championship in their own country grin .

They celebrated when they beat Tanzania the other day..but Nigeria and Cameroon taught them.something grin
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:04am On Aug 31, 2018
jaycent:
Seriously grin

jaycent:
Nop tasha? he meant gaylli pig, not gaycunt! Ok. grin

grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:08am On Aug 31, 2018
Kazikazi:
From the vineyards of Tanzania..this is the second biggest winery industry in africa

No seriously dude, no one knows Tanzania for wine and vineyards. You are known for Shisha. Before we banned Shisha in Kenya we used to see you as our role models.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Nobody: 3:19am On Aug 31, 2018
Danielnino00:
The so called queens of Africa volleyball have been eliminated from the Africa women u-20 volleyball championship in their own country grin .

They celebrated when they beat Tanzania the other day..but Nigeria and Cameroon taught them.something grin

After beating Tanzania there was absolutely no point of repeating the same with Naija. We dont have time for repetitions.

Note that the U-20s are not Queens, its the Senior team. Even your U-20 boys kick ass in football worldcup,,, but the real men got whipped even by Iceland when it mattered. Lets meet at the senior level.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 3:26am On Aug 31, 2018
Danielnino00:
The so called queens of Africa volleyball have been eliminated from the Africa women u-20 volleyball championship in their own country grin .

They celebrated when they beat Tanzania the other day..but Nigeria and Cameroon taught them.something grin

Royalty has no substitute. In senior volleyball(women), Kenya has dominated the African continent since the 90's winning the Women's African Volleyball Championship a record nine times. The Queens.....


All-Africa Games

Gold medal – first place 1991 Cairo Team Competition
Gold medal – first place 1995 Harare Team Competition
Gold medal – first place 1999 Johannesburg Team Competition
Gold medal – first place 2015 Brazzaville Team Competition
Silver medal – second place 1987 Nairobi Team Competition
Bronze medal – third place 2003 Abuja Team Competition
Bronze medal – third place 2007 Algiers Team Competition
Bronze medal – third place 2011 Maputo Team Competition

Women's African Volleyball Championship

1991 — 1st place
1993 — 1st place
1995 — 1st place
1997 — 1st place
2003 — 2nd place
2005 — 1st place
2007 — 1st place
2011 — 1st place
2013 — 1st place
2015 — 1st place
2017 — 2nd place

Olympic Games

1964 to 1996 — did not participate
2000 — 11th place
2004 — 11th place
2008 to 2016 — did not participate

World Championship

1994 — 13th place
1998 — 13th place
2002 — 21st place
2006 — 21st place
2010 — 21st place

Also, congratulations for your win in Nairobi. The better team won. smiley

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by gallivant: 4:01am On Aug 31, 2018
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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 4:11am On Aug 31, 2018
TayserMahiri:


After beating Tanzania there was absolutely no point of repeating the same with Naija. We dont have time for repetitions.

Note that the U-20s are not Queens, its the Senior team. Even your U-20 boys kick ass in football worldcup,,, but the real men got whipped even by Iceland when it mattered. Lets meet at the senior level.
Hmm ok Tayser, it was Croatia (eventual silver medallists ) Who whopped us, not lceland.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by jaycent(m): 9:07am On Aug 31, 2018

Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by kikuyu1(m): 9:41am On Aug 31, 2018
My,my,my! I've been looking at the whole oil industry and now I see where the whole 'Giant' delusion comes from. As usual Dangoteland's dysfunctions stand out:
Mr. President observed that Nigeria is the only oil producing country in the world where crude oil is stolen, describing the situation as embarrassing to the country.
http://energymixreport.com/bunkering-as-nigerias-new-legitimate-oil-business/

Of which,more later!

Most of the LEGALLY EARNED billions have been TRANSFERRED to the west leaving the oil producing regions wallowing in poverty. Yes,TRANSFERRED NOT STOLEN! The deal involves Nigerian National Petroleum Corporation,big banks,oil majors and their local compradors.
Imo,oil bunkerage,the illegal siphoning and sale from pipelines is part of the deal-fyi,ships are filled with stolen oil sold internationally. You can guess the level of theft when the small scale bunkering is estimated at 30 k bpd.
In this instance, local networks with limited expertise and technical ability tap into pipelines and other onshore oil infrastructure (i.e. wellheads and manifolds). A large majority of the stolen oil is crudely refined in local refineries (‘firewood distilleries’) located in mangrove areas using relatively basic processes. It is estimated that this form of oil theft amounts for no more than 30,000 bpd.
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Nigerias-Oil-Theft-Epidemic.html

Once the tap is secured, the product (oil or premium motor spirit) is pumped onto waiting barges and boats (a process known as ‘bunkering’) in return for money, guns and narcotics. Some 75 percent of stolen oil is then transported to coastal tankers or ‘international mother ships’ at night to export the product regionally or globally While the remaining 25 percent is refined in one of the myriad of artisanal refineries scattered across the region’s network of rivers, streams, canals and creeks – spread over 70,000 square kilometres.

Ofc,all the Elites are involved,navy commanders,local leaders,elected and traditional leaving the indigenes in poverty,twice cheated by lop sided agreements and theft with nothing but pollution and environmental degradation to enjoy.

Nigeria is the largest oil producer in Africa, and petroleum products make up nearly all of the country's exports. So when the governor of Nigeria's central bank alleged that some $20 billion of state oil revenues were missing from the national energy company, citizens weren't happy.
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/qkvbbp/nigerias-corrupt-oil-industry-managed-to-misplace-20-billion

In late 2013, Nigeria's then central bank governor Lamido Sanusi wrote to President Goodluck Jonathan claiming that the state oil company had failed to remit tens of billions of oil revenues it owed the state
https://www.businessinsider.com/r-special-report-anatomy-of-nigerias-20-billion-leak-2015-2?IR=T

Lagos is suing Chevron, Eni, Total, Shell, and Petrobras for illegally exporting crude oil worth $12.7 billion in the years between 2011 and 2014. Exxon may also join the list of defendants.

According to government officials quoted by the Associated Press, the five companies failed to claim 57 million barrels of crude as exports for the period, bound for the U.S, which was discovered through differences in the amounts declared at departure and arrival, with some loads not declared upon departure at all.
https://oilprice.com/Energy/Crude-Oil/Nigeria-Sues-Oil-Majors-Over-127-Billion-In-Stolen-Oil.html
How in the actual fvck does that happen!? Pls,someone,anyone tell me!

Then there's the oil subsidy losing 3 bn$ a year.

It says $29bn (£18bn) was lost in the last decade in an apparent price-fixing scam involving the sale of natural gas.

It also calculated the treasury loses $6bn a year because of oil theft.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-20081268

Btw,guys,I'm not happy with this situation:the search form the truth has brought me to these lamentable facts which directly confirms what many of us have said. Your oil earnings aren't and shouldn't reflected in your GDP,but rather Shell,Chevron,ENI and ExxonMobil bottom line.

I now understand all the IPOB/Biafra noise but don't CONDONE IT though I do think there's a foreign element in Nnamdi Kanu's drama and also IIRC the Igala are the true indigenes of Anambra-has their opinion on secession been solicited? Do they approve their homeland being used by newcomers?
I see our baby steps towards oil production and whenever I hear Kenyans impatient screeching for speedy oil production and delivery always advise,"look at Dangoteland and their oil issues..."
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Kazikazi: 9:53am On Aug 31, 2018
TayserMahiri:


No seriously dude, no one knows Tanzania for wine and vineyards. You are known for Shisha. Before we banned Shisha in Kenya we used to see you as our role models.
why are u jeolous? Do u think we r like u? In tanzania almost all farms are owned by locals.there is no white settlers in Tz..thats why we dont starve.reach our levels dude!

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 10:04am On Aug 31, 2018
gallivant:


Royalty has no substitute. In senior volleyball(women), Kenya has dominated the African continent since the 90's winning the Women's African Volleyball Championship a record nine times. The Queens.....


All-Africa Games

Gold medal – first place 1991 Cairo Team Competition
Gold medal – first place 1995 Harare Team Competition
Gold medal – first place 1999 Johannesburg Team Competition
Gold medal – first place 2015 Brazzaville Team Competition
Silver medal – second place 1987 Nairobi Team Competition
Bronze medal – third place 2003 Abuja Team Competition
Bronze medal – third place 2007 Algiers Team Competition
Bronze medal – third place 2011 Maputo Team Competition

Women's African Volleyball Championship

1991 — 1st place
1993 — 1st place
1995 — 1st place
1997 — 1st place
2003 — 2nd place
2005 — 1st place
2007 — 1st place
2011 — 1st place
2013 — 1st place
2015 — 1st place
2017 — 2nd place

Olympic Games

1964 to 1996 — did not participate
2000 — 11th place
2004 — 11th place
2008 to 2016 — did not participate

World Championship

1994 — 13th place
1998 — 13th place
2002 — 21st place
2006 — 21st place
2010 — 21st place

Also, congratulations for your win in Nairobi. The better team won. smiley



That's some good record up there grin .. But I'm really amused. grin

I remember the arguments we had regarding sport. you folks made us understand that u dominate almost every sport u are good at up to the world level .. grin But ur world record here is rather pathetic... grin ..

And ur so hyped rugby team once again failed to qualify for the rugby world cup..Is it just rugby7s u know? grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 11:00am On Aug 31, 2018
rvp2018:
START WITH TEA .If you have drank black tea outside china and india chance are high it was made in kenya.If you ever bought a flower like rose in Europe there is 50% chance it was grown in kenya.If you have been to any supermarket in Europe and bought groceries groceries..you wont miss kenya vegetables.We just overtook south africa in avacados.Worlwide if you buy nuts like macademia it likely its from kenya.Our dairy sector is now Africa best and Buhari came to see it.Some of our cows watch TV and sleep on mattress..so they produce 40 litres of milk daily.Some of the best coffee worlwide are from kenya.Our agriculture is for most part world class..expect for low dollar cereals



I asked for d figures not mere babbling..
drop the figure of ur agricultural production per crop.. You are talking about tea, flowers and avocado grin .. Are those the food crop needed to save Kenyans who are dying of starvation? Of what importance are those crops to the average Kenyan??
Drop ur production figure for food crop that ur people consume.. What's the essence of having a good agricultural industry that can't feed ur population...

Nigeria's agricultural industry may not b among the most advanced in Africa but it'd arguably the largest...
We are world top.producers of Cassava and yam. 5th largest producer of millet, 2nd largest producer of sorghum behind the US 2nd largest producer of ginger, sweet potato ,nuts and okra... Those are crops that of huge benefits to the citizens not some tea and flowers..

Before u scream cooked figures as usual, the data are recorded on the FAO website...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:12am On Aug 31, 2018
Why the poverty? You see Nigeria data is all faked. Tell me for example if you do not export anything of those - how do you count what is planted and internally consumed. FAO & IMF - will just take whatever Yemi Kale's CBN throws at them. You minister of agricluture when asked about rice production - quoted Indexmulli or CIA - yet he is suppose to be the source of data.

Of course we can talk about Kenya SOLID CREDIBLE FIGURES any day any time. But Nigeria data is as fake as anything made in Nigeria.

Kenya obviously is mostly semi-arid but we still produce enough food - for local consumption and export - and we have very small deficit in certain crops.We produces lots of Maize and Irish Potatos - our two most important food crops - we produce lots of milk - lots of meat - name it.

Danielnino00:

I asked for d figures not mere babbling..
drop the figure of ur agricultural production per crop.. You are talking about tea, flowers and avocado grin .. Are those the food crop needed to save Kenyans who are dying of starvation? Of what importance are those crops to the average Kenyan??
Drop ur production figure for food crop that ur people consume.. What's the essence of having a good agricultural industry that can't feed ur population...

Nigeria's agricultural industry may not b among the most advanced in Africa but it'd arguably the largest...
We are world top.producers of Cassava and yam. 5th largest producer of millet, 2nd largest producer of sorghum behind the US 2nd largest producer of ginger, sweet potato ,nuts and okra... Those are crops that of huge benefits to the citizens not some tea and flowers..

Before u scream cooked figures as usual, the data are recorded on the FAO website...

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 11:20am On Aug 31, 2018
Other agricultural commodities that Nigeria is among the top 20 producers as per FAO data of 2016

* Cocoa - 5th
* Onion - 20th
* coconut - 18th


Agriculture accounts for about 20% of Nigeria's GDP.. that's roughly $80bn.
Still.larger than the economy of little India grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Danielnino00(m): 11:27am On Aug 31, 2018
rvp2018:
Why the poverty? You see Nigeria data is all faked. Tell me for example if you do not export anything of those - how do you count what is planted and internally consumed. FAO & IMF - will just take whatever Yemi Kale's CBN throws at them. You minister of agricluture when asked about rice production - quoted Indexmulli or CIA - yet he is suppose to be the source of data.

Of course we can talk about Kenya SOLID CREDIBLE FIGURES any day any time. But Nigeria data is as fake as anything made in Nigeria.

Kenya obviously is mostly semi-arid but we still produce enough food - for local consumption and export - and we have very small deficit in certain crops.We produces lots of Maize and Irish Potatos - our two most important food crops - we produce lots of milk - lots of meat - name it.




The usual cooled figure bla bla grin



And u have been lying all this time about Kenya being almost arid.. Less than half of.Kenya is arid..

Northern Nigeria accounts for over half of Nigeria agricultural production yet its arid with less rainfall than the south...

since u have been on this thread,u have being lying and lying..

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 11:38am On Aug 31, 2018
Danielnino00:
Other agricultural commodities that Nigeria is among the top 20 producers as per FAO data of 2016

* Cocoa - 5th
* Onion - 20th
* coconut - 18th


Agriculture accounts for about 20% of Nigeria's GDP.. that's roughly $80bn.
Still.larger than the economy of little India grin
You are wasting your time with that rvp2018 guy, because when he can't give a rebuttal, he would scream fake as usual, and tell us the lMF or FAO accepts any data given to them, such that even if Yemen claims to have the biggest economy in the world, this automatically becomes an absolute fact on the IMF website for all to use as a reference. The Kenyan School of Economics is so so special.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Daejoyoung: 11:39am On Aug 31, 2018
Danielnino00:




The usual cooled figure bla bla grin



And u have been lying all this time about Kenya being almost arid.. Less than half of.Kenya is arid..

Northern Nigeria accounts for over half of Nigeria agricultural production yet its arid with less rainfall than the south...

since u have been on this thread,u have being lying and lying..
Always lying and quoting figures from his arse.
Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:40am On Aug 31, 2018
We've been through your dodgy data several times.
Only 20% of Kenya is arable. 40% of Nigeria is arable. Nigeria is twice as big as kenya. So basically you've 4 times more land - and should have 4 times more output - but you don't.

We beat you in more than 20 crops -- off my head
1) Irish Potato - 5th in Africa.
2) Milk - 1st in Africa
3) Wheat - we beat Nigeria(zero)
4) Barley - we beat Nigeria(zero)
5) Avacados - 1st in Africa & top 5 world wide (*)
6) Tea - 1st in world in export and 3rd in production
7) Macademia nuts - 3rd world wide.
cool French Beans - 1st in Africa
9) Flowers - 1st in Africa & 3rd worldwide in exports
10) Coffee - we beat nigeria.
11) Pyrethrum - 1st in World
12) Sugar production - we beat Nigeria
13) Sisal - 3rd worldwide
14) Fresh produce-fresh produce, such as cabbages, onions and mangoes - 3rd in world in exports.
15) Soya beans - we beat Nigeria.
16-20) I am pretty sure we beat you in many other livestock products.

You can only beat kenya is low-class food like yams, cassava,sorghum, millet and I don't what - some of stuff no kenyan will be found eating sad smiley

Danielnino00:
Other agricultural commodities that Nigeria is among the top 20 producers as per FAO data of 2016

* Cocoa - 5th
* Onion - 20th
* coconut - 18th


Agriculture accounts for about 20% of Nigeria's GDP.. that's roughly $80bn.
Still.larger than the economy of little India grin

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by rvp2018: 11:44am On Aug 31, 2018
That is precisely what IMF does - if they doubt the data - all they can do is put ****. You can fake your GDP but try go to IMF or WB for loan - Kenya get more loans from WB/IMF/Eurobond/China than Nigeria - because our GDP is solid.

Look at your argicluture - almost exclusively tradinationl low dollar crops - sorghum, millet, yams, cassava, palm oil - and you want to tell all those crappy food - no middle class in kenya can be found eating - makes you 6th wonder of agricluture - that imports powder milk & tomato pastesmiley

Common sense. If Nigeria data was credible - why are you now HQ of POVERTY?

Daejoyoung:

You are wasting your time with that rvp2018 guy, because when he can't give a rebuttal, he would scream fake as usual, and tell us the lMF or FAO accepts any data given to them, such that even if Yemen claims to have the biggest economy in the world, this automatically becomes an absolute fact on the IMF website for all to use as a reference. The Kenyan School of Economics is so so special.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by Obi1kenobi(m): 1:45pm On Aug 31, 2018
rvp2018:
That is precisely what IMF does - if they doubt the data - all they can do is put ****. You can fake your GDP but try go to IMF or WB for loan - Kenya get more loans from WB/IMF/Eurobond/China than Nigeria - because our GDP is solid.

Look at your argicluture - almost exclusively tradinationl low dollar crops - sorghum, millet, yams, cassava, palm oil - and you want to tell all those crappy food - no middle class in kenya can be found eating - makes you 6th wonder of agricluture - that imports powder milk & tomato pastesmiley

Common sense. If Nigeria data was credible - why are you now HQ of POVERTY?


Every round of Eurobond Nigeria has floated has been oversubscribed several times over and we've never had problems accessing loans with the World Bank/IMF. We've had this argument before and I'm not sure why you've kept repeating it even though it should be clear to you by now there is no accuracy to it. Our comparatively low debt level is a measure of fiscal conservatism and has absolutely nothing to do with inability to access these credits. We have $47b in foreign reserves compared to $8b from Kenya, and you're trying to tell me you have more access to international credit than we do? This particular administration though has already added more to our national debt than PDP did in 16 years. Since Obasanjo's Presidency, we had run a tight ship in managing national debt.
This is not arguing about the accuracy or otherwise of our GDP. I'm inclined to believe a couple of sectors, especially agriculture and telecoms, have inflated data, and more realistically our GDP might be somewhere a little above $300b, rather than close to $500b. But you don't have to get all fanatical with inaccuracies to prove the point.

And there is nothing "low-dollar" about those crops. If we are not making enough money from it, it's because we're not producing enough, not because they are "low dollar" crops. A tuber of yam is actually pretty expensive, and oil palm was Nigeria's biggest forex earner before the crude boom, and countries like Malaysia and Indonesia still make a killing from oil palm. Dismissing crops claiming "no middle class in Kenya eats it" is pretty childish. Apart from the fact that these are usually processed into a host of consumer products rather than directly consumed as food (except yam which is a delicacy round the world), what Kenya eats is hardly a gauge of the value of a crop.

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Re: Kenya Is Ahead of Nigeria In All Aspect (Facts Don't Lie) by obaaderemi: 2:32pm On Aug 31, 2018
Obi1kenobi:


[s]After a string of personal insults and denigrations from an angry man, he projects his anger on me.grin Everything you spewed here smacks of a lot of anger. Sorry I offended you for not drinking the Naija Kool Aid and sticking to reality.
There you go again, boy. Playing the victim card.(..."on me,me,me").Everything is insult to you because of your inflated ego.I hope you are not suffering from Histrionic Personal Disorder. Point out the insults and the anger in my post. I can't be angry with you. You are my brother.grin This arguments are just what they are--inconsequential.
.And--in all honesty--you are the last person to offend anyone.You've become so ridiculous here with your history of errors, lies and oversights.



At least my question to substantiate your India claim was simply ignored rather than suddenly feigning illiteracy. You should do that more often. Wastes less time.
Funny boy. grin You should slap yourself for using the bolded word.Are you not the same boy I had to just to ignore when you repeatedly failed to substantiate your prejudicial and sick claim that no nation was more corrupt that Nigeria? Your last attempt at redemption was the funniest after you admitted getting some of your facts from a link with erroneous information. Yes,it is a fact that India would do better if it wasn't so crazily populous. See the bolded below:
Early marriage of girls and lack of awareness about
reproductive healthcare, particularly in the rural
areas, are major factors behind current population
growth. Population is clearly a factor contributing
to, and sustaining, high levels of poverty.

No one has contested China's ability to hurt America (it can - if it intends to hurt itself even more in the process):
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/china-wont-dump-us-treasury-bonds/
https://www.marketwatch.com/story/why-chinas-treasury-hoard-isnt-much-of-a-weapon-in-trade-spat-with-us-2018-04-06
https://chinapower.csis.org/us-debt/
That's different from making it look like China control America in any way, when in reality, the US has unrivaled capacity to hurt any nation on earth financially, whether with sanctions, tariffs or any economic levers it chooses, which is why Trump is having a jolly good time making everyone grovel from the EU, to Mexico and Canada, to China. Despite a series of Trump provocations, China has either ignored him, or borne the bigger brunt of their trade wars. Which renders your claim that Xi could "cripple America's economy with a shake of his finger" asinine rubbish. Like all those typical Nigerian beer parlour analysis of how Russia or China could destroy the US. grin
I can see you've settled your quarrel with google and now do your researches before talking to avoid your now infamous oversights. grin.The argument was that America can not ignore China. If everyone agrees that China could hurt America's economy then does that not show why China receives so many American presidential visits?And yes,if China dumps those American bonds on the market, America would be in serious trouble.Interest rates and bond prices would go up and hurt borrowing. The American economy would slow down.And with Europe also joining China against Trump's America, not only America's economy but the global economy would be crippled. That's called recession. That's why even Trump's aides think he is crazy to start a trade war with China. There should be better options.
I note for the 2nd time running, you've dribbled around my mention of Saudi Arabia too which was visited 4 times by Obama. grin
I didn't pick Saudi Arabia in my analysis because I thought the reason would be clear to even a self-claimed video game addicted 11year old who had the most basic knowledge of American-Saudi relationship.I was going to ignore this part of your post but since you insist.
Now,pay attention.Saudi and America started their relationship in the 1930s.That's a lot of time to be in bed together.Again, Saudi Arabia is America's most important strategic partner in the Gulf, an area far more important to America than Sub Saharan Africa for a number of reasons. Again, America's investment in Saudi is huge while Saudi's investment in America is huge as well. For your information, Saudi's Aramco was started with American capital. Plus the fact that America maintains at least five military bases in Saudi alone. How many does it have in Africa?Nigeria even rejected one.grin So you see why every American serving president must visit Saudi, in spite of its poor human rights records. I wonder why you would stoop so low as to bring Saudi into such an analysis. It's what nowenuse said about your attitude of juxtaposing apples and oranges.

You keep telling us about your economic and political expertise, but your beer parlour analysis isn't living up to the self-hype. Educate us on these "nuances" you claim to have mastered as to why Obama ignored the "giant" on his African trips. Come up with something more coherent on your next attempt. This XBox-addled brain of mine needs the education from your mastery of "The Economist". I'll certainly "thank you later". grin
Is this really you?When did you become like this?There is more pain in this one paragraph to give a horse a bad headache. You are almost incoherent.grin I never knew my saying I had access to an ordinary foreign newspaper at age 11 could make you go over the edge like this.I digress.
Obama refused to visit Nigeria and even Kenya during his first term due to unbridled corruption as cited by the american press.Jonathan's apparent lack of seriousness in nipping terrorism in the bud was an added disadvantage. After its shame for backing Mobutu in the past,America has become more careful about associating with african regimes that are not popular.You asked for an education and an education you will get,boy.
Since this argument about presidential visits is so important to you,(silly to me)let me inform you that Nigeria (the giant,sorry) opened the door for Sub Sahara Africa when it comes to official visits by American presidents. It happened for the first time in 1978 when Jimmy Carter visited General Obasanjo.Since then two other serving American presidents have visited. Including the one that visited when you were playing video game.grin. That makes three.No other Sub Saharan African country has received more than three American presidents.Feed your eyes on the two sophisticated gentlemen below:
Segun and Jimmy circa 1978 Lagos, Nigeria

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