pure truth. guinea have ifnot the best midfielders in africa currently

TheSuperNerd:
Lol... African soccer through the eyes of other nations is also exciting no doubt apart from the Nigerian angle.

And on Onazi and Joel... Well, I get your point. And @bolded... they are Midfielders naa.. lol what other role can they switch to in football? Attackers? Lol...

TheSuperNerd:
Bounnou (Girona) - GK

Romain Saiss (Wolves, England) - DF or DMF

Mehdi Benatia (Juventus, Italy)

Achraf Hakimi (Dortmund, Germany on two year loan from Real Madrid)

Nabil Dirar (used to play for Monaco... Would recall his club)

Karim El-Ahmadi (Feyenoord, Holland)

Younnes Belhanda (Galatasaray, Turkey)

Hakim Ziyech (Ajax, Holland)

Khalid Boutaib (would recall his club)

Ayoub El-Kaabi....

Amine Harit (FC Schalke 04)... Etc...

They also have this Mehdi Carcela that is Part-Moroccan and Part Spanish I think.

This is off the top of my head now... If I settle down and reel out more names you will see their complete depth of talents.

Not threatening enough

I heard Enyeama has retired from football. Why una never mention am?

That's because you don't know the players. Their goalkeeper starring in la liga just helped his side (Girona) beat Villarreal away in a la liga fixture hours ago.

Earthquake1:


Not threatening enough

charlesemeka85:
can you imagine!

Polish second-tier club KS Raków Częstochowa have announced the capture of former Nigeria U17 star Chidiebere Nwakali from Manchester City.

The central midfielder has ended his association with the English Premier League champions after penning a two-year deal with Raków Częstochowa, with the option to extend inserted into the contract.

Nwakali departs Manchester City without playing competitively for their first team due to the challenges he faced in obtaining a work permit.

The 21-year-old was loaned out to Malaga, Girona, IK Start, Sogndal and most recently Aberdeen while he was on the books of Manchester City.

He featured in a post-season friendly for the Super Eagles B team against Atlético de Madrid in May 2018.

Raków Częstochowa are top of the Polish I Liga standings with 16 points accumulated from seven matches.

He is not as talented as his brother, what do you want him to do

I would advise him to go to China or Saudi

safarigirl:
I heard Enyeama has retired from football. Why una never mention am?

I think he just left lille.. I don't think he has retired yet.

I thought someone already have. He and Lille ended their seven years association. And Enyeama will thus retire OR maybe not?. And he recently turned 36 I think.

safarigirl:
I heard Enyeama has retired from football. Why una never mention am?

Earthquake1:


He is not as talented as his brother, what do you want him to do

I would advise him to go to China or Saudi

Even his brother has not shown anything.

To be fair to Chidi, even he admitted to the media a few years ago in 2015(I think?) before Kelechi's rise that his younger brother is more technically gifted and a better Midfielder than he is.

Earthquake1:


He is not as talented as his brother, what do you want him to do

I would advise him to go to China or Saudi

He has shown something Tbaba. You keep flinging this "He has done Nothing" as if Kelechi is a bad player and haven't shown some fine Sparks.

tbaba1234:


Even his brother has not shown anything.

TheSuperNerd:
To be fair to Chidi, even he admitted to the media a few years ago in 2015(I think?) before Kelechi's rise that his younger brother is more technically gifted and a better Midfielder than he is.

Kelechi, that is supposedly more talented has also not done much.

TheSuperNerd:
He has shown something Tbaba. You keep flinging this "He has done Nothing" as if Kelechi is a bad player and haven't shown some fine Sparks.

Chidi has also shown sparks of talent.

But he has done enough when and where it matters to be noticed by Rohr and his crew. Marca took notice. Goal took notice. And now Rohr is taking note of the lad. You guys really need to chill abeg and put things into proper perspective.

tbaba1234:


Kelechi, that is supposedly more talented has also not done much.

But not on the same level Kelechi has shown his.

tbaba1234:


Chidi has also shown sparks of talent.

tbaba1234:


I think he just left lille.. I don't think he has retired yet.

he can always return to Enyimba if e no see club for Europe because he currently has no destination

TheSuperNerd:
But he has done enough when and where it matters to be noticed by Rohr and his crew. Marca took notice. Goal took notice. And now Rohr is taking note of the lad. You guys really need to chill abeg and put things into proper perspective.

Chidi was also noticed and called by Rohr, let us not forget.

At this point in their careers, both players should be playing at higher levels.

whick spark? spark ko!

tbaba1234:


Chidi has also shown sparks of talent.

TheSuperNerd:
But not on the same level Kelechi has shown his.

I disagree.

Look through the goals Chidi has scored in his career so far. There are some worldies there. Definitely talented.

Showing sparks of talent without consistency will lead you nowhere. Kelechi needs to find that consistency fast.

Chidi have never played bigger than Norway-level football. Or even Scottish soccer. He got noticed but could not sustain Rohr's interest long enough.

Kelechi have played and shown fine glimpses of his talents at higher levels than Chidi. Rohr have taken note of the lad and his MOTM performance pre-Russia in that Atletico game for Nigeria B gave him a fine shot with Rohr. Kelechi is currently at Porto B with option of a permanent purchase if he does well enough. The Jury can't possibly be out this early on the lad. He is 20 and still maturing.

tbaba1234:


Chidi was also noticed and called by Rohr, let us not forget.

At this point in their careers, both players should be playing at higher levels.

TheSuperNerd:
Chidi have never played bigger than Norway-level football. Or even Scottish soccer. He got noticed but could not sustain Rohr's interest long enough.

Kelechi have played and shown fine glimpses of his talents at higher levels than Chidi. Rohr have taken note of the lad and his MOTM performance pre-Russia in that Atletico game for Nigeria B gave him a fine shot with Rohr. Kelechi is currently at Porto B with option of a permanent purchase if he does well enough. The Jury can't possibly be out this early on the lad. He is 20 and still maturing.

Kelechi only career step-up was in the eredivise where he failed to shine. Yes, he did not impose himself when he was given the chance to play.

Let us not forget, Chidi was also a stand out performer against Atletico. It was a meaningless match. The standout performers are struggling to impose themselves at lower levels.

Is Scotland and Norway bigger than Holland and Portugal? Please tell me.

Scoring screamers in Norway is never compared to Scoring in Holland. You also know this.

Fact is Kelechi have done it and shown his stuff on bigger stages and at higher levels than Chidi. Even in the GWG vs Atletico he outshone Chidi big time.

And Kelechi's Sparks of huge talents have done enough to bring him into National team attention. He had had far more better games than bad ones... he only needs to up his levels of consistency and that will come at its own time with more effort on his part.. Give lad a break and let him keep developing.

tbaba1234:


I disagree.

Look through the goals Chidi has scored in his career so far. There are some worldies there. Definitely talented.

Showing sparks of talent without consistency will lead you nowhere. Kelechi needs to find that consistency fast.

TheSuperNerd:
Is Scotland and Norway bigger than Holland and Portugal? Please tell me.

Scoring screamers in Norway is never compared to Scoring in Holland. You also know this.

Fact is Kelechi have done it and shown his stuff on bigger stages and at higher levels than Chidi. Even in the GWG vs Atletico he outshone Chidi big time.

And Kelechi's Sparks of huge talents have done enough to bring him into National team attention. He had had far more better games than bad ones... he only needs to up his levels of consistency and that will come at its own time with more effort on his part.. Give lad a break and let him keep developing.

Second tier in Holland and Portugal Those are not particularly the strongest second tier leagues.

When he stepped up in the eredivise, he could not force himself into the starting line up.

Let me be clear, i like the kid but he needs to work hard to step up his game. At his age, he has done nothing of note.

But Kelechi did score on his Cameo debut for VVV when given one of his few Cameo chances to impress. Didn't he? Tell me, how is a young player expected to shine and be imposing in just a few minutes of football every other game huh? How exactly? For a Midfielder, he even has one goal in the eredivisie in 9 games of varied Cameo mins. He was never given the chance to show what he can do so he never failed at that level. You saying he failed is just pure fallacy.

And in the Atletico game, even Usman did great didn't he? But the fact remains that Kelechi was the MOTM for Nigeria. He was the most noticeable and most obvious outstanding performer on the day. He was our best player that day. Fact.

tbaba1234:


Kelechi only career step-up was in the eredivise where he failed to shine. Yes, he did not impose himself when he was given the chance to play.

Let us not forget, Chidi was also a stand out performer against Atletico. It was a meaningless match. The standout performers are struggling to impose themselves at lower levels.

Dutch second tier is one of the best for talents devt and growth in Europe. And it is better than Norway.. or playing for a lowly team in Scotland. They are more than 10 places below Holland in the league rankings strength in Europe.

When he stepped up into the Eredivisie, he scored on his debut in his very first Cameo appearance. Lad was never given a run of games even after that. Coach obviously had his preferences and it was not for lack of talent or effort on Nwakali's part... But just for preference. Simple. How do you explain being given varying Cameo appearances on eight occasions even after scoring on your debut in just 15 mins of football? Aha.. I guess you still think it was him not doing enough.

And finally, at his age, he did decently enough in the Dutch second division to be noticed by Marca of Spain and Goal International. If that is not decent enough for you then I think you are only looking at him with the eyes of an Arsenal fan hence you expect him to be tearing up the world like he is Zidane. Look, he is K.Nwakali and he will grow and become much more as long he keeps working his socks off and adding to his game and working on being much more consistent.
Even Didier Drogba was not tearing things up at 20 or 21 before his super boom at 26.

tbaba1234:


Second tier in Holland and Portugal Those are not particularly the strongest second tier leagues.

When he stepped up in the eredivise, he could not force himself into the starting line up.

Let me be clear, i like the kid but he needs to work hard to step up his game. At his age, he has done nothing of note.

oga saying he wasn't given a chance to shine is an insinuation that he had a frosty relationship with venlo's coach or management? bros if kelechi showed better quality than all the midfielders in venlo the coach will have no excuse not to play him. lets stop this hype abeg. kelechi is one of our promising youngstars coming up whom i adore so much but he needs to start living up to the expectations. he is already 20yrs old and alot of players of his age are playing in top leagues and better teams. so lets stop the hype and excuses and hopehe lives up to the promise he showed in our cadet teams. when mikel was at his age he was already robbing shoulders with the some of best midfielders in the world at the time in london giants chelsea.

ajax would have been a better place for him to start his career but the lure of playing for a top epl team was too good for him to reject. he would have developed better in ajax and may be in their first team by now if he moved there

TheSuperNerd:
But Kelechi did score on his Cameo debut for VVV when given one of his few Cameo chances to impress. Didn't he? Tell me, how is a young player expected to shine and be imposing in just a few minutes of football every other game huh? How exactly? For a Midfielder, he even has one goal in the eredivisie in 9 games of varied Cameo mins. He was never given the chance to show what he can do so he never failed at that level. You saying he failed is just pure fallacy.

And in the Atletico game, even Usman did great didn't he? But the fact remains that Kelechi was the MOTM for Nigeria. He was the most noticeable and most obvious outstanding performer on the day. He was our best player that day. Fact.

TheSuperNerd:
Dutch second tier is one of the best for talents devt and growth in Europe. And it is better than Norway.. or playing for a lowly team in Scotland. They are more than 10 places below Holland in the league rankings strength in Europe.

When he stepped up into the Eredivisie, he scored on his debut in his very first Cameo appearance. Lad was never given a run of games even after that. Coach obviously had his preferences and it was not for lack of talent or effort on Nwakali's part... But just for preference. Simple. How do you explain being given varying Cameo appearances on eight occasions even after scoring on your debut in just 15 mins of football? Aha.. I guess you still think it was him not doing enough.

And finally, at his age, he did decently enough in the Dutch second division to be noticed by Marca of Spain and Goal International. If that is not decent enough for you then I think you are only looking at him with the eyes of an Arsenal fan hence you expect him to be tearing up the world like he is Zidane. Look, he is K.Nwakali and he will grow and become much more as long he keeps working his socks off and adding to his game and working on being much more consistent.
Even Mo Salah was not tearing things up at 20 or 21 before his super boom at 25.

The Eredivise develops youth as well.

No one is expecting him to be tearing up anything, he should be playing in the top tier in leagues like Holland and Portugal.

There is no progression from the Jupiler league to portuguese second tier.

Arnaut Danjuma is just 1 year older than Nwakali, look at what he is doing with Brugge.

bros you mean the dutch 2nd division is rated above the scottish league? ayaf die i will prefer playing for kilmanock in the scottish top flight than playing for mvv in the dutch 2nd tier

TheSuperNerd:
Dutch second tier is one of the best for talents devt and growth in Europe. And it is better than Norway.. or playing for a lowly team in Scotland. They are more than 10 places below Holland in the league rankings strength in Europe.

When he stepped up into the Eredivisie, he scored on his debut in his very first Cameo appearance. Lad was never given a run of games even after that. Coach obviously had his preferences and it was not for lack of talent or effort on Nwakali's part... But just for preference. Simple. How do you explain being given varying Cameo appearances on eight occasions even after scoring on your debut in just 15 mins of football? Aha.. I guess you still think it was him not doing enough.

And finally, at his age, he did decently enough in the Dutch second division to be noticed by Marca of Spain and Goal International. If that is not decent enough for you then I think you are only looking at him with the eyes of an Arsenal fan hence you expect him to be tearing up the world like he is Zidane. Look, he is K.Nwakali and he will grow and become much more as long he keeps working his socks off and adding to his game and working on being much more consistent.
Even Didier Drogba was not tearing things up at 20 or 21 before his super boom at 26.

But stats do not lie. He was never given a proper chance to show his stuff even after showing what he can do in 15 mins on his debut.

And this is not hype... This is just saying it as it is. You guys here are being so harsh on the lad just as you came here the other day saying he is warming the bench at Porto B which was a super lie. Must you spread falsehood just because you want to see K.Nwakali function better at a much higher level?

charlesemeka85:
oga saying he wasn't given a chance to shine is an insinuation that he had a frosty relationship with venlo's coach or management? bros if kelechi showed better quality than all the midfielders in venlo the coach will have no excuse not to play him. lets stop this hype abeg. kelechi is one of our promising youngstars coming up whom i adore so much but he needs to start living up to the expectations. he is already 20yrs old and alot of players of his age are playing in top leagues and better teams. so lets stop the hype and excuses and hopehe lives up to the promise he showed in our cadet teams. when mikel was at his age he was already robbing shoulders with the some of best midfielders in the world at the time in london giants chelsea.

ajax would have been a better place for him to start his career but the lure of playing for a top epl team was too good for him to reject. he would have developed better in ajax and may be in their first team by now if he moved there

TheSuperNerd:
But Kelechi did score on his Cameo debut for VVV when given one of his few Cameo chances to impress. Didn't he? Tell me, how is a young player expected to shine and be imposing in just a few minutes of football every other game huh? How exactly? For a Midfielder, he even has one goal in the eredivisie in 9 games of varied Cameo mins. He was never given the chance to show what he can do so he never failed at that level. You saying he failed is just pure fallacy.

And in the Atletico game, even Usman did great didn't he? But the fact remains that Kelechi was the MOTM for Nigeria. He was the most noticeable and most obvious outstanding performer on the day. He was our best player that day. Fact.

He started games and failed to take his opportunity. He was an early sub and failed to change games. Those are the ways to force a coach's hand.

even the quality of football in the dutch top tier is poor let alone the 2nd tier. i wonder how we still hype a player who couldnt get a starters shirt in a lowly club like venlo. the same venlo musa and uchebo were unplayable

tbaba1234:


The Eredivise develops youth as well.

No one is expecting him to be tearing up anything, he should be playing in the top tier in leagues like Holland and Portugal.

There is no progression from the Jupiler league to portuguese second tier.

Arnaut Danjuma is just 1 year older than Nwakali, look at what he is doing with Brugge.

Scotland is number 21 in Europe while Norway is 24 all rated based on league strength coefficient and quality of competition.

Holland is number 11. That is leagues away from those two so yes Holland second tier is higher no matter how slight.

charlesemeka85:
bros you mean the dutch 2nd division is rated above the scottish league? ayaf die i will prefer playing for kilmanock in the scottish top flight than playing for mvv in the dutch 2nd tier

bros if the guy like mk em captain porto B i will only take him serious until he stars in a decent league. porto B is not even the best in the portuguese 2nd tier. moving to feirense in the portuguese top tier would have been better than playing for a youth team of a top club in portugal

TheSuperNerd:
But stats do not lie. He was never given a proper chance to show his stuff even after showing what he can do in 15 mins on his debut.

And this is not hype... This is just saying it as it is. You guys here are being so harsh on the lad just as you came here the other day saying he is warming the bench at Porto B which was a super lie. Must you spread falsehood just because you want to see K.Nwakali function better at a much higher level?