gallivant:
Tanzanian military budget is what we allocate the Kenya scouts. School kids. Tanzanian military is a joke!

Did u won any war?

jaycent:
Shut your fvcking mouth up you stupid Cum

Gaycunt, you can't even help yourself. Just go to Cape Town and join the other fruitcakes! You are not safe in Nigeria.

Kazikazi:
Did u won any war?

My friend, your army is weak, underpaid and ill equipped. You have zero chance, even Rwanda can subdue you. It's imperative you get this through your thick skull, ZERO chance!!

Cjrane2:
Truth be said, i am just impressed with Kenya!

I may argue otherwise because i'm Nigerian. But, Kenya may indeed surpass Nigeria is a few years to come.

Sadly Nigeria is heading to a wrong direction in all aspects

gallivant:


Gaycunt, you can't even help yourself. Just go to Cape Town and join the other fruitcakes! You are not safe in Nigeria.

I don't need to go anywere Gaylli pig. I love my country, my country is beautiful and peaceful, and i love the state i live "minna niger state" the place is beautiful, peaceful, lively, no crimanals, no kidnapers, no bomblast e.t.c. So you can see am safe hehehehe.
Just go and defeat the Al shabaab befor they delete you maasais from the map you stupid cunt.

Kur17:


Sadly Nigeria is heading to a wrong direction in all aspects

But Nigeria is better than Kenya in all aspect.

gallivant:


My friend, your army is weak, underpaid and ill equipped. You have zero chance, even Rwanda can subdue you. It's imperative you get this through your thick skull, ZERO chance!!

Did kenyan army won a war? Tanzania defeated uganda.

Nyayo Embakasi Estate the cleanest and 2nd largest Estate in Africa after one in Natal Province of South Africa....

Kur17:
Nyayo Embakasi Estate the cleanest and 2nd largest Estate in Africa after one in Natal Province of South Africa....

I've been to this posh estate,mehn its sparklingly clean everywhere,there's no even a litter anywhere.

jaycent:
But Nigeria is better than Kenya in all aspect.

You need to substantiate your argument...
In Nigeria 6 people are becoming extreme poor per minute, in 2014 it was 33%, in Jun 2018 it was 46% or 86.9million, in Aug is 87.5 million people, 3.2m are becoming extreme poor in Nigeria per annum https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/06/nigeria-overtakes-india-as-worlds-poverty-capital-report/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwjfsKCqwprdAhXQxIUKHa9yBhsQFjAMegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw10aCsaIB8Z4KX0HtTXRNVs&ampcf=1 ...your GDP growth is less than 1% while your birth rate is one of the highest https://qz.com/1171606/nigeria-population-growth-rising-unemployment-and-migration-suggest-things-could-get-worse/ .. Nigeria birth rate 5.5, kenya 2.2 yr2017..Compared to kenya with one of lowest birth rate and highest GDP growth rateh, https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.indexmundi.com/kenya/demographics_profile.html&ved=2ahUKEwizi5LRzJrdAhVyzoUKHQVzCMwQFjALegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw2yt7kEeAV8jm3FaIh9MG6j also check your GDP per capita(assuming it's actual, of which is not) Kenya will overtake yours in a year's time...at that direction where are heading....

Kur17:
Nyayo Embakasi Estate the cleanest and 2nd largest Estate in Africa after one in Natal Province of South Africa....

When it comes to estate we beat you guys. We have the cleanest estate in Africa Ogbeni. This is golf estate Port harcourt.

jaycent:
When it comes to estate we beat you guys. We have the cleanest estate in Africa Ogbeni. This is golf estate Port harcourt.

How many units does it have...?

Kur17:


You need to substantiate your argument...
In Nigeria 6 people are becoming extreme poor per minute, in 2014 it was 33%, in Jun 2018 it was 46% or 86.9million, in Aug is 87.5 million people, 3.2m are becoming extreme poor in Nigeria per annum https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.vanguardngr.com/2018/06/nigeria-overtakes-india-as-worlds-poverty-capital-report/amp/&ved=2ahUKEwjfsKCqwprdAhXQxIUKHa9yBhsQFjAMegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw10aCsaIB8Z4KX0HtTXRNVs&ampcf=1 ...your GDP growth is less than 1% while your birth rate is one of the highest https://qz.com/1171606/nigeria-population-growth-rising-unemployment-and-migration-suggest-things-could-get-worse/ .. Nigeria birth rate 5.5, kenya 2.2 yr2017..Compared to kenya with one of lowest birth rate and highest GDP growth rateh, https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&url=https://www.indexmundi.com/kenya/demographics_profile.html&ved=2ahUKEwizi5LRzJrdAhVyzoUKHQVzCMwQFjALegQIBxAB&usg=AOvVaw2yt7kEeAV8jm3FaIh9MG6j also check your GDP per capita(assuming it's actual, of which is not) Kenya will overtake yours in a year's time...at that direction where are heading....

All what you know is "poverty" you can't even bring up something meaningful. What's up with you and poverty!

jaycent:
All what you know is "poverty" you can't even bring up something meaningful. What's up with you and poverty!

In development that's the paramount indication of where someone or a nation is headed...

Kur17:


How many units does it have...?

708 unit

kikuyu1:


Obi1kenobi,rvp2018 is asking serious questions I'm also wondering about though the issue has been diverted. It all boils down to your REAL GDP which we've shown is 180 BN $ ABSOLUTE MAX 200 BN. Show us otherwise LOGICALLY and I promise to change my mind.

Then you have accomplished what the World Bank, IMF, CIA, KPMG etc haven't. I'd be interested to see how you came about the figures. I have no idea what our GDP is and I'm no economist, so I guess I'm open to your analysis.

rvp2018:
Nigeria has forex issues..that you know.It has black market for forex because you central bank and treasury doesnt have good handle on macro ecomics.Stop boasting about forex reserves when you cant float naira freely like we do kshs.You forex will go up and dow depending on oil market.Not Buhari.Not Jonathan

We have a black market for forex because we have a black market for everything tradeable. And what do you mean by "stop boasting"? You said we have forex scarcity. I said we don't and I can walk down literally thousands of locations and buy dollars: whether from banks, bureau-de-changes, and even street hustlers. Correcting an incorrect statement is "boasting" in what world?

obaaderemi:
You are still very pissed off as shown here.You said one thing and when told to show proof, you start foaming in the mouth.. Very typical of you. You need to take yourself less serious.Anyway, you asked for an education, hence the long post. I didn't even see your post until much later.This debate is obviously not as important to me as it is to you.So, unlike you,I take day offs.

Foaming in the mouth? But I wasn't the one who started hurling out insults. And everytime you have to stress how unimportant this is to you, only reinforces how important it is to you. The only bit of honesty there is that debates like this are ultimately ego driven and yes, I have myself fallen into that trap of juvenile one-upmanship. Amusing watching you deny that when I'm sure I could string you along here interminably as you seek to get the last word in. But I'll be moving on.

Keep dribbling around. India is an industrial giant as everyone knows.But clearly it has many weights bogging it down. One of which is the above optimal limit population. It might interest you to know that about 60% of India's working age population is unproductive. That clearly should show anyone with an open mind that if India wasn't so populous, it would be far richer than it is.India is Democratic and has for decades embraced modern western ways unlike Pakistan. Hence the silliness of your comparison. The fact is the fact.Deal with it.



This energetic diatribe of yours does not change the fact that you have been comparing oranges with apples. . Nobody is arguing with you that the Gulf is more important to the USA than Africa. So comparing Saudi with Nigeria is a show of desperation. Why not compare Nigeria with another Sub Saharan African country?On China,you keep buttressing my point that China is too important to America to be ignored. So,what's your argument?Africa on a whole is not very important to America. Who do we blame for that?



What's he saying? So because Obama failed to visit Nigeria makes Nigeria less important than the places he visited? I guess that means George Bush visiting Uganda and sidelining Kenya means Kenya is less important .Again, in your desperation you are bringing in Afghanistan.That's foolish.America has troops in Afghanistan and it was on that soil America battled Russian incursion into middle east.The same afghanistan from where 9/11 was launched.Na wah for you o.This your straw grasping is terrible. El Salvador instability will only send more drug dealers into America, hence America's interest. Again, Africa on a whole does not command such interest. Not only Nigeria.

It seems spending too much time on nairaland has messed up your eyesight. Either that or you have a problem with comprehension. You brought up the issue of presidential visits and said American presidents don't visit Nigeria because it's not important. I only tried to cure your ignorance by letting you know that Nigeria opened the door for other black African countries concerning such matters. That's why I brought up Jimmy Carter since you obviously didn't know he came.How could you know that when you didn't even know a certain American president visited as recently as 2003and had to display your ignorance openly to buttress a point.
Besides, I don't know why validation by foreign leaders means so much to you.Colonial mentality or probably white worship. SMH.

I've made my points to be honest and I'm not cut out to keep going in circles trying to get in the last word in an unproductive argument that meanders all over the place. As I said above, at this point, it's all ego driven and disgresses from the main theme of the thread: that Kenya is well superior to Nigeria. A truism that can be asserted with bountiful evidence. That's all, my brother.

jaycent:
708 unit

By now, Nayo Estate has over 6,000 units. Now go back to bed.
https://www.sde.co.ke/thenairobian/article/2000188722/the-second-largest-estate-in-africa-sits-pretty-in-nairobi

Seems like the Kenyans on this thread are far more knowledgeable than the IMF and world bank...
We are asking them to drop verifiable proof(not assumptions and theories) that our GDP is less than $200b like they claim.
.

Obi1kenobi:


Foaming in the mouth? But I wasn't the one who started hurling out insults. And everytime you have to stress how unimportant this is to you, only reinforces how important it is to you. The only bit of honesty there is that debates like this are ultimately ego driven and yes, I have myself fallen into that trap of juvenile one-upmanship. Amusing watching you deny that when I'm sure I could string you along here interminably as you seek to get the last word in. But I'll be moving on.

You're so on point here. I have even told Obaboon before to desist from pretending whatever he's discussing is unimportant to him because it only confirms how frustrated he is. He created a profile for this thread and has been on this thread since then yet he's always crying how unimportant this thread is to him.

Iamleefact:

By now, Nayo Estate has over 6,000 units. Now go back to bed.
https://www.sde.co.ke/thenairobian/article/2000188722/the-second-largest-estate-in-africa-sits-pretty-in-nairobi

Yea there's more than ten estates that has more than 700units in Nairobi alone

gallivant:


You fought Biafra, and lost stupid. You are a dysfunctional people. Shut up and go find the chibok girls.

E pain am

Iamleefact:

By now, Nayo Estate has over 6,000 units. Now go back to bed.
https://www.sde.co.ke/thenairobian/article/2000188722/the-second-largest-estate-in-africa-sits-pretty-in-nairobi

There are other estate in Nigeria that's more than 6,000 units. I just post this one because skull 17 said nayo estate is the cleanest estate in Africa.

Kur17:


Yea there's more than ten estates that has more than 700units in Nairobi alone

and who told you we don't have?

Kenya not yet independent


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw4ctAK3MIk

Obi1kenobi:


Foaming in the mouth? But I wasn't the one who started hurling out insults. And everytime you have to stress how unimportant this is to you, only reinforces how important it is to you. The only bit of honesty there is that debates like this are ultimately ego driven and yes, I have myself fallen into that trap of juvenile one-upmanship. Amusing watching you deny that when I'm sure I could string you along here interminably as you seek to get the last word in. But I'll be moving on.

Reverse psychology at work. But it falls flat again. Is the bolded what you have been looking for all along?The only reason I have kept stringing you along is to stem the tide of misinformation you were spewing here, many of which you already shifted ground on --even openly after getting your facts wrong severally. I was done with you long ago.You are the one who kept referring to responses coming late.Not me.Uhu.I have since moved on.

I've made my points to be honest and I'm not cut out to keep going in circles trying to get in the last word in an unproductive argument that meanders all over the place. As I said above, at this point, it's all ego driven and disgresses from the main theme of the thread: that Kenya is well superior to Nigeria. A truism that can be asserted with bountiful evidence. That's all, my brother.

As you can be sure I have too --at the bolded.I made my points with my first post. I never insulted you.You are my brother.It was just your self-esteem getting hurt. I understand.Trust me,I do. And I can see you are still stressing matters about your "this is superior to that". You could go on and on doing this.At the end of the day,you and everyone else would just keep going round and round in circles. It doesn't change the fact that Kenya is vastly inferior to Nigeria and far less significant in the grand scheme of things. If they truly believed otherwise,the Little Indians wouldn't be here for years on a Nigerian site in their multitude fighting tooth and nail,sleeping and waking up here and achieving zero, and of course, getting exposed by Tanzanians.That's why nigerians ignored this other thread since many believe the opinion to be true.https://www.nairaland.com/3327823/kenyans-far-behind-nigerians-every/7 Deal with it, bruva. Again, I am done with you. Enjoy your day.

Annael:
Kenya not yet independent


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qw4ctAK3MIk

Haha who is Julius Malema to determine who is independent and who is not �

Kenyan Lawyers Wear wig as their colonial masters do.

Kenyan Lawyers



UK Lawyers

Slave in your own land. This is Kenya

Kenyatta Family Land Ownership

We got this from the Mars Group website (www.marsgroupkenya.org)
The Kenyatta family own land that can resettle all the IDP's in KenyaThe Kenyatta family own land that can resettle all the IDP's in Kenya
The growing land crisis in the country, experts say, will be difficult to solve because the most powerful people in the country are also among its biggest landowners. However, as we celebrate Kenyatta Day, one of Kenya’s biggest land owners can help alleviate this crisis somewhat. The Kenyatta family should mark the day named after their patriarch, by donating some of the land they own to landless Kenyans.
When you consider how much land Kenya’s first family really own, it’s actually not too much of a request.

The Genesis of the Kenyatta Family Land Ownership
During Kenyatta’s 15-year tenure in State House, there was an elaborate scheme funded by the World Bank and the British Government, the Settlement Transfer Fund Scheme, under which the family “legally” acquired large pieces of land all over the country. Yaani, the World Back and the former colonial government funded the ‘Settlement Transfer Fund Scheme’ which was supposed to “buy” back land stolen by the colonial British government and give it back to Kenyans. Somehow, the Kenyatta family ended up owning hundreds of thousands of acres of land through this scheme.

The Land Ownership Breakdown

1. The extended Kenyatta family alone owns an estimated 500,000 acres of land in Kenya.

NB: Most of the holders of the huge parcels of land are concentrated within the 17.2 % part of the country that is arable. The remaining 80 % is mostly arid and semi arid land.
According to the Kenya Land Alliance, more than a half of the arable land in the country is in the hands of only 20 per cent of the 30 million Kenyans. That has left up to 13 per cent of the population absolutely landless while another 67 per cent on average own less than an acre per person.

2. The Kenyatta family also owns 24, 000 acres in Taveta sub-district (adjacent to the 74, 000 acres owned by former MP Basil Criticos).

3. Others are 50, 000 acres in Taita that is currently under Mrs Beth Mugo, Minister for Public Health & Sanitation and niece of the first President
4. They also own 29, 000 acres in Kahawa Sukari along the Nairobi Thika highway
5. 10, 000 acre Gichea Farm in Gatundu
6. A 5, 000 acre tract of land in Thika
7. 9,000 acres in Kasarani
8. 5, 000-acre Muthaita Farm.
9. The Brookside Farm, Green Lee Estate, Njagu Farm all in Juja (size unknown)
10. A quarry in Dandora in Nairobi
11. A 10, 000-acre ranch in Naivasha
12. A 52,000-acre farm in Nakuru
13. A 20,000-acre one, also known as Gichea Farm, in Bahati under Kenyatta’s daughter, Margaret
14. A 10, 000 acre farm in Rumuruti owned by former first lady Mama Ngina
15. A 40,000 acre farm in Endebes, Rift Valley Province
16. A 1,000-acre farm in Dagoretti owned by Kenyatta’s first wife Wahu
If this man is ever going to be a serious contender for president, he has to re-distribute the land his family ownsIf this man is ever going to be a serious contender for president, he has to re-distribute the land his family owns
The acreage quoted in this report (Mars Group report) is not extracted from official government records there are none and those that exist are scattered and some cases incomplete but are estimates based on close to a year of interviews with farm staff, independent surveyors, Ministry of Lands experts and land rights NGOs.

Under President Kenyatta, most of the power wielders either formed or were associated with land buying companies through which they acquired huge chunks of land around the country, especially at the Coast and in Rift Valley. They took most of the land previously owned by the former white settlers, which had initially been earmarked for resettling those who had been turned into squatters by the colonial land policies.

Who own Kenya?

List of 7 luxurious hotels owned by Uhuru’s family

1. Great Rift Valley Lodge and Golf Resort
2. Kipungani Explorer
3. Mara Explorer
4. Samburu Interpids Luxury Tented Camp
5. Mara Interpids Luxury Tented Camp
6. Voyager Ziwani
7. Voyager Beach Resort

https://www.pulselive.co.ke/news/local/7-hotels-owned-by-the-kenyatta-family-id7797476.html