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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Drogo(m): 8:58pm On Sep 01, 2018
Is the writer even sure the so called 'doctors' that was seen at d private hospitals are qualified doctors..

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by bammy777(m): 9:15pm On Sep 01, 2018
worlexy:
OP you're no different from an average Nigerian, instead of addressing that government has failed us, you're pointing an accusing finger to the doctors. If only the govt can give all Nigerians universal health insurance coverage such issues would not have happened( what that means is that everybody will get treated when hospitals know that insurance company will pay the bills) doctors have families too, he won't feed his families with Hippocratic Oath and he didn't use charity to build his hospital neither will his staff feed on charity, who told you that he has the necessary skills and equipments to handle such a case, and if he had improvised it's people like you that will drag him to the mud that he's incompetent like the case that happened with the corper shot by the Police in Abuja.
Go and break up with your medical student Fiance because of the experience you had with doctors trying to make ends meet. Engage the relevant govt agencies and stop embarrassing yourself online.
I pray this does not happen to your loved ones.
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Ogaonos: 10:15pm On Sep 01, 2018
bammy777:
I pray this does not happen to your loved ones.
no mind am I suspect na medicinal person.
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Ogaonos: 10:26pm On Sep 01, 2018
Shey u c y one rely on God heavily.because govt no go do jack doctors too wack nd lik moni eh imagine I cut my leg go private hospital na 5k b their card.na 15k I pay afta I beg d doctor about d card d guy use style add am 2 d total bill.police no gud u c y u cum c reason 2 dey religious.i laugh wen sum nairalanders dey gullible dey follow sum foolish atheist and DT OAP freeze wer get moni 2 jet out 2 treat himsef while u dey nija.so who our police na God our doctor na God.we need God my pple and geiuine pastor(s) imagine dis kind thin happen 2 u during dis buhari tym which moni u wan use pay doctor wen u dey scratch 2 chop.meanwhile u get genuine man of God and ur prayers 2 prevent such accident

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by stagger: 10:30pm On Sep 01, 2018
Jaqenhghar:

If Niggerian doctors are that good as you claim they shouldnt write any exams and undergo training to practice over there. Niggerians keeping the NHS running. What a joke. Peope who ca t make a simple diagnosis.... hahaha
Keep hating me I hope you choke on that hate and die slowly tongue

I don't argue with idiots who can't even spell the nationality of their own country. One of my neighbours who is a doctor just left for the UK last month. There are thousands like her leaving Nigeria for the UK, US, Australia and other locations MONTHLY!

Fools like you never bother to get your facts straight. That is why I say Nigeria is UNFIXABLE. Leaders of this country can afford to send their kids and themselves abroad on a moment's notice. I know someone who was evacuated from an accident scene and paid $12,000 an hour to a helicopter company in PH. These are the ones who can afford it.

But people like you who are stuck in Nigeria are not bothered about the rot in the system that is driving our doctors out of the country by the thousands.

May we never get to where Liberia is now, where there are less than 70 doctors in the entire country. That is why when Ebola hit Liberia, it hit them hard, and one of them decided to carry his illness to Nigeria and ended causing the death of Dr Adadevoh and several others.
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by arinzest: 10:31pm On Sep 01, 2018
Doctor bashing; nairaland's favorite pastime

Well I must commend the OP for helping, frankly after my experience in 2010 at the hands of the police, I would never carry a bleeding patient in my car.

As a military officer, I would expect that you perform basic first response stuff like bracing the neck, tourniquet, etc. Could have made a difference.

The patient you described needed a level 3 trauma care which I doubt you could have received in a peripheral hospital except tertiary ones like St Nicholas, Reddington, Eko and the rest. Although the doctor should have referred you promptly instead of using cash to scare you off.

On the issue of payment before "saving a life", talk is cheap. No private facility is for charity, it's a business with families depending on it. Scream all you want, without universal health insurance, health care is not cheap.

Before the "good guys" come for me, how many times have you gone to hospitals to help pay bills accumulated by indigent patients? Am an ObGyn specialist in a mission hospital. Just came out of theatre for an obstetric hysterectomy on a patient that is yet to pay 1000 naira folder.

Yes we intervene because the church in part pays the overhead and philanthropists also help out. But frankly it's being abused. I have about 3 patients still stuck with bills, pregnant women brought to the hospital by family members with NOTHING. pregnancy is not an emergency but in 9 months, you saved nothing. I know that at some point the hospital would not be able to sustain it cos it's designed to the self sufficient. it's the kindness of the Bishop, the board and the irregular stipends from the state government that helps her help these people.


Recently, a parent sued the same hospital for "keeping them hostage ". A barrister (that could not pay the bills) sued a hospital, a judge ruled against the hospital. A parent brought a very sick child without paying a lobotomy, was treated, baby died, parents now decided payment is unnecessary. Talk is cheap.


Also laughable is the statement that Nigerian doctors are quacks. the NHS is manned by Indian and Nigerian doctors. I presently have 3 offers, three COS from 3 different UK Trusts.

Leave the politicians stealing your common wealth, keep running after the doctors and medical staff. Hope you would still have those to bash available in few years

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by arinzest: 10:36pm On Sep 01, 2018
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by delerx(m): 10:42pm On Sep 01, 2018
Is it not people with jobs that will pay for health insurance. Is it that mama selling roasted plaintain or that orange seller on the road that will insure his or her life. Nigeria is a failed entity
eleojo23:
This issue of attending to emergency cases has to be addressed.

Health insurance has to be made compulsory for everyone. Nigerians generally don't care about anything insurance, whether vehicle o or health.

But these things come in handy in times of emergencies.

The insurance companies also must be mandated to include vital tests and procedures in their insurance policies because some of them don't cover certain procedures. And the bureaucracy involved in accessing insurance has to be reduced.

Insurance will cost people money, but when compared to the benefits in times of emergency, it is a small price to pay.


Back to the story:
But how can the doctor say he doesn't accept even bank transfer? This is 2018 for Christ sake. Even the woman selling utensils in a small shop across my street accepts transfers.
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Asu015(m): 10:44pm On Sep 01, 2018
Jaqenhghar:

What victories if I may ask. Well... if you consider killing people as a victory then yeah. You right
go overseas and see how nigerian trained doctor's are performing....... excellent and admirable, we hv insufficient facilities here coupled with stubborn patients
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Gracesofar(m): 10:45pm On Sep 01, 2018
worlexy:
When you said you're a military personnel, I stopped disturbing myself because you guys and lie are 5&6. How can two hospital reject POS as a form of payment. You hate doctors because you envy them. In your next life work harder to become a doctor then you will understand how it feels to be one


Ok you said well. Good luck in your endeavors
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by adahib: 10:55pm On Sep 01, 2018
OP it's unfortunate what happened to the accident victim and how the doctors responded without proper explanation. for them to turn down payments via bank transfer indicates something. perhaps the patient was too bad for them to handle given their skills and available equipment. They should have explained that to you clearly.

Like people have been pointing out, Nigeria needs a functional health insurance scheme to cover emergency cases especially. That will go a long way in helping most people in emergency situations.

That said, when I read the comments of most people on nairaland, I shudder at the hate and resentment most people have for doctors in this country. Yes, there are some bad doctors but that holds true in every sector and every country of the world. So castigating the entirety of doctors in Nigeria makes no sense. We should ask ourselves, if Nigerian doctors are so bad, why are the clinics always full? why do the same terrible doctors excel so well outside the country? A few days ago, a lady posted how much she detested doctors because they don't spend time with her. while I agree that a doctor should always explain to a patient what is ailing him/her, I totally disagree that a doctor needs to spend the entire day on a single patient. I work in a government hospital that attends to over 10,000 people and others who still come from outside. We are only 7. A typical clinic day can contain over 500 people. We have to see patients in the ward, do surgeries and still take calls. Yet one still expects us to spend an hour on a single patient.

While some of us don't do too well as regards our attitude, most relate perfectly with people. So please let's tone down on this doctor hate. I'm yet to see anyone open a thread about how a doctor saved him or her. Or are we to believe that no doctor in Nigeria has ever saved the life of a Nigerian?

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Jaqenhghar: 11:03pm On Sep 01, 2018
Asu015:
go overseas and see how nigerian trained doctor's are performing....... excellent and admirable, we hv insufficient facilities here coupled with stubborn patients
We are talking of the ones here.
Of course abroad you have to get uour shít together
You think oyinbo will pay you to be killing their people?
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Jaqenhghar: 11:10pm On Sep 01, 2018
stagger:


I don't argue with idiots who can't even spell the nationality of their own country. One of my neighbours who is a doctor just left for the UK last month. There are thousands like her leaving Nigeria for the UK, US, Australia and other locations MONTHLY!

Fools like you never bother to get your facts straight. That is why I say Nigeria is UNFIXABLE. Leaders of this country can afford to send their kids and themselves abroad on a moment's notice. I know someone who was evacuated from an accident scene and paid $12,000 an hour to a helicopter company in PH. These are the ones who can afford it.

But people like you who are stuck in Nigeria are not bothered about the rot in the system that is driving our doctors out of the country by the thousands.

May we never get to where Liberia is now, where there are less than 70 doctors in the entire country. That is why when Ebola hit Liberia, it hit them hard, and one of them decided to carry his illness to Nigeria and ended causing the death of Dr Adadevoh and several others.


Actually Im NOT in Niggeria. Yeah its Niggeria, Nigger -area the spelling was deliberate so joke's on you. Im actually glad many doctors are leaving . Let them see how work is done in sane climates. No one listens to your bullshit excuses about how work is hard. Even in the UK doctors complain.. nowhere is perfect but you double down , work hard and God help you if a patient dies.
Actually you are at the level Liberia is you just dont know it yet when it hits someone close to you your eye go clear. So long sucker
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Jaqenhghar: 11:13pm On Sep 01, 2018
Asu015:
go overseas and see how nigerian trained doctor's are performing....... excellent and admirable, we hv insufficient facilities here coupled with stubborn patients
Now blaming the victims SMH
You honestly think our patients are stubborn?
Go abroad where patients know their rights and see something. You will be eating they shít fresh out of their ass and saying thank you on top.
Their work conditions are not perfect but you must put in the work perfectly . Either that or you quit.
You guys have it too good in this shithole. You get paid to do nothing and you still complain that money is not enough
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by horia: 11:32pm On Sep 01, 2018
Gracesofar:
Hi nairalanders, though this happened last month and I still can't find a way to get over it. But the thought was triggered and I had a flashback to it vividly after I read a ladies post here on nairalanders who spoke about her experience with doctors.

Anyway, Being a doctor might be just more than a profession since they are believed more to save lives. But do they really do that. Apart from the bossy act of most doctors Talking of JOHESU vs NMA and them wanting to boss everyone around, I was want to share my experience of how I finally lost hope In doctors which also pointed out that the so-called Hippocratic oath means nothing to most of them.

I was on an official assignment to Lagos that was 3 weeks ago if I can still recollect vividly. And after the whole assignment etc, I was done and around 8pm I decided to leave Lagos back to Enugu. I was with a colleague so who set out and after passing Arepo (very near berger) I think the town name is Magboro. I wanted to park and probably get fruits to aide me she. I heard a loud thud and low and behold the car behind me hit a man trying to cross the express road. The car (a minibus) was on top speed and the impact even confused me on what was happening. I parked and I saw people rush to drag the lifeless man from the fast lane so other cars won't run him over and I was still frozen where I was. This was a middle age man lifeless on the ground with blood gushing out of him. Anyway trust Nigerians some brought out their mobile etc and other were pouring water on the blood dripping man. But I was still socked and confused. Finally, I knew the man will give up the ghost finally if he didn't receive medical attention on time. So I spoke to my colleague and we went to meet the gathering crowds and decided to help this man. We don't even know anywhere around so we just asked if anyone knows a nearby hospital and hell yeah there will always be a good Samaritan out of every 12. Anyway, we but this man in my car and with 2 other strangers showing us the route we started drubuing towards the nearest hospital in an attempt to save this complete stranger live. Getting to the hospital after much blood was on my car seat we took this man out and called the doctor in charge of the private hospital which I can't even remember the name but I know its very close to Access International School in Magboro very close to ibafo Ogun state.

Upon the doctor seeing him, he asked who the famiky so we just explained and I realise his countenance changed. He said he can't attend to him without a family member there. I never knew what the doctor meant because to me the only set of people hospitals don't attend to is bullet wound victims and at least they must give first aid.

That's how the doctor started talking that who will foot the bill etc. That he will give him treatment bla bla bla. I got so angry and I asked him if his money is more essential than a fellow human live. Anyway I told him I had no cash but if they use pos, I will deposit all the money he needs because am still going to Enugu that night. Looking at the time its to 9. The doctor said they only do cash payment etc and he can't take him in without getting some payment to start it. My colleague asked if he accept bank transfer he said No just cash. Haba I got annoyed and I sowed him my ID card when he realised am a military personnel he lower his tone of talking and he said he his sorry they don't even have any spare bed or the medications to stabilize him. Haba anyway ouyt of annoyance I issued him threat that I don't even know the man from genesis am just doing my own to save humanity. I realised he was too money conscious so I told him to Bleep off. We put the man in my car again and went to another private hospital. Getting their we had almost same issue. And to cut the long story short he doctyor didn't even give him first aide or try stabilizing him. He just said I should get a government hospital around. I was so frustrated and I loosed hope in doctors that night over been money conscious not minding an innocent life paying the price with something less than 50k. Fast forward one of the boys said he knew a government clinic at the other side. And we drove their as at then it was almost 10 at this time this man was still breathing though very slowly and he was loosing lots of blood. Anyway we got to the government hospital where I can't even describe. And I was told to write a statement etc. And before the man would be stabilized, he gave up the ghost that night.

Though have seen people die and I don't feel any way bad but that made me feel so demoralized. I'd only the first two private bastard called doctors can take him in, he will still be alive. I left the hospital and they said they will bag him etc.

Anyway that night I started my journey to Enugu and till today, my hatred for doctors hisnjust so mega even though my fiancee is a medical student.

This is a true life story that happened 3 Saturdays ago if only I was thinking straight enough to get the hospitals name
many Nigerian hospitals are so substandard that they can't even give proper first aid. Some people died not because they were not attended to but because the right instruments were absent. They'll never tell you, the doctors.
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Gracesofar(m): 12:13am On Sep 02, 2018
Chartey:
Why is nobody seeing what I'm seeing?
Let's forget about the doctor-bashing for a second.
The OP is a military man.
Any military or paramilitary man that doesn't know simple lifesaving first aid like "pack/pressure/elevate" and primary survey is a useless military man.
Any military that has soldiers like the OP that can't do first aid but can harass civilians is a useless military.
Any country that its citizens don't recognise this fact is a useless country.

Someone among the people acttually used his hands to pump the mans chest etc. And if I didn't feel the pulse I won't say his breathing was get slow. And dear Mr know all, should I have used my bare hands to do what exactly? Without any kit? And what's the first aid I could have applied to a man bleeding from his nose etc am even sure he has more internal bleeding than external hatzbthe better first aid than take him to the nearest hospital.


Probably you can lecture m on that. Without gloves or any form of protective.
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Gracesofar(m): 12:19am On Sep 02, 2018
worlexy:
Dont mind them, they just manufacture baseless stories and colorise it so that their audience can have something to masturbate on, after all what stories sell faster than a doctor bashing one?


Baseless stories? I pray this happen to you or a family member of yours. Anyway dear wise man. I will come back here to give you good measures hen you type of something similar among your family member
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Juliearth(f): 12:35am On Sep 02, 2018
Gracesofar:
Hi nairalanders, though this happened last month and I still can't find a way to get over it. But the thought was triggered and I had a flashback to it vividly after I read a ladies post here on nairalanders who spoke about her experience with doctors.

Anyway, Being a doctor might be just more than a profession since they are believed more to save lives. But do they really do that. Apart from the bossy act of most doctors Talking of JOHESU vs NMA and them wanting to boss everyone around, I was want to share my experience of how I finally lost hope In doctors which also pointed out that the so-called Hippocratic oath means nothing to most of them.

I was on an official assignment to Lagos that was 3 weeks ago if I can still recollect vividly. And after the whole assignment etc, I was done and around 8pm I decided to leave Lagos back to Enugu. I was with a colleague so who set out and after passing Arepo (very near berger) I think the town name is Magboro. I wanted to park and probably get fruits to aide me she. I heard a loud thud and low and behold the car behind me hit a man trying to cross the express road. The car (a minibus) was on top speed and the impact even confused me on what was happening. I parked and I saw people rush to drag the lifeless man from the fast lane so other cars won't run him over and I was still frozen where I was. This was a middle age man lifeless on the ground with blood gushing out of him. Anyway trust Nigerians some brought out their mobile etc and other were pouring water on the blood dripping man. But I was still socked and confused. Finally, I knew the man will give up the ghost finally if he didn't receive medical attention on time. So I spoke to my colleague and we went to meet the gathering crowds and decided to help this man. We don't even know anywhere around so we just asked if anyone knows a nearby hospital and hell yeah there will always be a good Samaritan out of every 12. Anyway, we but this man in my car and with 2 other strangers showing us the route we started drubuing towards the nearest hospital in an attempt to save this complete stranger live. Getting to the hospital after much blood was on my car seat we took this man out and called the doctor in charge of the private hospital which I can't even remember the name but I know its very close to Access International School in Magboro very close to ibafo Ogun state.

Upon the doctor seeing him, he asked who the famiky so we just explained and I realise his countenance changed. He said he can't attend to him without a family member there. I never knew what the doctor meant because to me the only set of people hospitals don't attend to is bullet wound victims and at least they must give first aid.

That's how the doctor started talking that who will foot the bill etc. That he will give him treatment bla bla bla. I got so angry and I asked him if his money is more essential than a fellow human live. Anyway I told him I had no cash but if they use pos, I will deposit all the money he needs because am still going to Enugu that night. Looking at the time its to 9. The doctor said they only do cash payment etc and he can't take him in without getting some payment to start it. My colleague asked if he accept bank transfer he said No just cash. Haba I got annoyed and I sowed him my ID card when he realised am a military personnel he lower his tone of talking and he said he his sorry they don't even have any spare bed or the medications to stabilize him. Haba anyway ouyt of annoyance I issued him threat that I don't even know the man from genesis am just doing my own to save humanity. I realised he was too money conscious so I told him to Bleep off. We put the man in my car again and went to another private hospital. Getting their we had almost same issue. And to cut the long story short he doctyor didn't even give him first aide or try stabilizing him. He just said I should get a government hospital around. I was so frustrated and I loosed hope in doctors that night over been money conscious not minding an innocent life paying the price with something less than 50k. Fast forward one of the boys said he knew a government clinic at the other side. And we drove their as at then it was almost 10 at this time this man was still breathing though very slowly and he was loosing lots of blood. Anyway we got to the government hospital where I can't even describe. And I was told to write a statement etc. And before the man would be stabilized, he gave up the ghost that night.

Though have seen people die and I don't feel any way bad but that made me feel so demoralized. I'd only the first two private bastard called doctors can take him in, he will still be alive. I left the hospital and they said they will bag him etc.

Anyway that night I started my journey to Enugu and till today, my hatred for doctors hisnjust so mega even though my fiancee is a medical student.

This is a true life story that happened 3 Saturdays ago if only I was thinking straight enough to get the hospitals name


This is very sad. Please may I share this on Sdk blog? That hospital has to be sanctioned.
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by stagger: 12:36am On Sep 02, 2018
Jaqenhghar:

Actually Im NOT in Niggeria. Yeah its Niggeria, Nigger -area the spelling was deliberate so joke's on you. Im actually glad many doctors are leaving . Let them see how work is done in sane climates. No one listens to your bullshit excuses about how work is hard. Even in the UK doctors complain.. nowhere is perfect but you double down , work hard and God help you if a patient dies.
Actually you are at the level Liberia is you just dont know it yet when it hits someone close to you your eye go clear. So long sucker

You are the sucker. Fuk*ng illiterate who cannot spell.
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by stagger: 12:49am On Sep 02, 2018
Juliearth:



This is very sad. Please may I share this on Sdk blog? That hospital has to be sanctioned.

You see, this is the issue. Most bloggers are more interested in traffic than in posting stuff that will expose the real issues. I was in a teaching hospital to conduct routine tests prior to donating blood. The head of their lab services came around and shared ONE pair of gloves each to the lab staff to use for the day. ONE PAIR in a lab that tests for HIV and hepatitis.

Before my eyes, 10 people were being tested as well for donation. 7 were told they were unfit for donation. Perhaps they had HIV or hepatitis. I could not imagine myself working with one pair of gloves in that environment. I had to personally arrange a packet for the staff as my contribution.

So bloggers, take out time to go to our hospitals and see the rot. Ask questions about what is happening to the funds allocated from our national budget for health.

Our president is travelling to get treated abroad. Politicians and their families are all getting treatment abroad. The problem is bigger than rude doctors.

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Juliearth(f): 4:01am On Sep 02, 2018
stagger:


You see, this is the issue. Most bloggers are more interested in traffic than in posting stuff that will expose the real issues. I was in a teaching hospital to conduct routine tests prior to donating blood. The head of their lab services came around and shared ONE pair of gloves each to the lab staff to use for the day. ONE PAIR in a lab that tests for HIV and hepatitis.

Before my eyes, 10 people were being tested as well for donation. 7 were told they were unfit for donation. Perhaps they had HIV or hepatitis. I could not imagine myself working with one pair of gloves in that environment. I had to personally arrange a packet for the staff as my contribution.

So bloggers, take out time to go to our hospitals and see the rot. Ask questions about what is happening to the funds allocated from our national budget for health.

Our president is travelling to get treated abroad. Politicians and their families are all getting treatment abroad. The problem is bigger than rude doctors.



You don't mean it!... Well, I have had my own fair share of this matter(like having to buy the gloves myself before being tested because none were provided for) PS I am not a blogger. I just feel there are people on the blog that I mentioned that can take up this case and get justice for the dead man.

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Nobody: 4:23am On Sep 02, 2018
Jaqenhghar:

They dont know what they are doing. A foreign based doctor told me he said when working with Niggerian doctors that migrated to UK , he said the only thing they are good at is quoting what they crammed from books.
My advice is if you find yourself sick in Niggeria go and write your will or fly abroad .
i hope you know that foreign based doctors have prejudice against doctors from immigrant countries, the person may have been rascist
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Nobody: 4:34am On Sep 02, 2018
Gracesofar:


Someone among the people acttually used his hands to pump the mans chest etc. And if I didn't feel the pulse I won't say his breathing was get slow. And dear Mr know all, should I have used my bare hands to do what exactly? Without any kit? And what's the first aid I could have applied to a man bleeding from his nose etc am even sure he has more internal bleeding than external hatzbthe better first aid than take him to the nearest hospital.


Probably you can lecture m on that. Without gloves or any form of protective.

really, and you are here to bash nigerian doctors who have less to work with but still create miracles. This is why i say that the avarage nigerian patient is a scammer. Read this link to hear of what hospitals have suffered in the name of patients. This also happens in government hospitals a lot https://www.nairaland.com/4439253/reason-why-private-hospitals-termed
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Nobody: 4:41am On Sep 02, 2018
Jaqenhghar:

Now blaming the victims SMH
You honestly think our patients are stubborn?
Go abroad where patients know their rights and see something. You will be eating they shít fresh out of their ass and saying thank you on top.
Their work conditions are not perfect but you must put in the work perfectly . Either that or you quit.
You guys have it too good in this shithole. You get paid to do nothing and you still complain that money is not enough
this one is a pained nigga.

what you didnt tell them is how UK doctors are leaving for US, Canada and Australia, that is why UK relaxed immigration laws for nigerian doctors and the likes and now even offer them residency so that they too don't relocate to the USA and co once they have made their money and passed their exams.

every nigerian doctor seeking to relocate knows that UK is not the final bustop.
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Nobody: 4:58am On Sep 02, 2018
arinzest:
Doctor bashing; nairaland's favorite pastime

Well I must commend the OP for helping, frankly after my experience in 2010 at the hands of the police, I would never carry a bleeding patient in my car.

As a military officer, I would expect that you perform basic first response stuff like bracing the neck, tourniquet, etc. Could have made a difference.

The patient you described needed a level 3 trauma care which I doubt you could have received in a peripheral hospital except tertiary ones like St Nicholas, Reddington, Eko and the rest. Although the doctor should have referred you promptly instead of using cash to scare you off.

On the issue of payment before "saving a life", talk is cheap. No private facility is for charity, it's a business with families depending on it. Scream all you want, without universal health insurance, health care is not cheap.

Before the "good guys" come for me, how many times have you gone to hospitals to help pay bills accumulated by indigent patients? Am an ObGyn specialist in a mission hospital. Just came out of theatre for an obstetric hysterectomy on a patient that is yet to pay 1000 naira folder.

Yes we intervene because the church in part pays the overhead and philanthropists also help out. But frankly it's being abused. I have about 3 patients still stuck with bills, pregnant women brought to the hospital by family members with NOTHING. pregnancy is not an emergency but in 9 months, you saved nothing. I know that at some point the hospital would not be able to sustain it cos it's designed to the self sufficient. it's the kindness of the Bishop, the board and the irregular stipends from the state government that helps her help these people.


Recently, a parent sued the same hospital for "keeping them hostage ". A barrister (that could not pay the bills) sued a hospital, a judge ruled against the hospital. A parent brought a very sick child without paying a lobotomy, was treated, baby died, parents now decided payment is unnecessary. Talk is cheap.


Also laughable is the statement that Nigerian doctors are quacks. the NHS is manned by Indian and Nigerian doctors. I presently have 3 offers, three COS from 3 different UK Trusts.

Leave the politicians stealing your common wealth, keep running after the doctors and medical staff. Hope you would still have those to bash available in few years
thank you sir, as for me i have no hope for the nigerian patient. They cant see past the hate, because jamb rejected them. There is a government hospital in lagos that is presently without a neurologist cos he has relocated to the UK, this is someone that studied physiotherapy, then medicine, then residency. Just imagine how much time he wasted. Studing medicine is not worth it in nigeria because the Nigerian patient is too ignorant to be worth it, you will perform surgery for them and then they later lay gifts at their pastors feet, saying God shamed the doctors and the devil. Let Nigeria get to Liberia's level so that they will understand, if they will.

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Nobody: 5:05am On Sep 02, 2018
stagger:


I don't argue with idiots who can't even spell the nationality of their own country. One of my neighbours who is a doctor just left for the UK last month. There are thousands like her leaving Nigeria for the UK, US, Australia and other locations MONTHLY!

Fools like you never bother to get your facts straight. That is why I say Nigeria is UNFIXABLE. Leaders of this country can afford to send their kids and themselves abroad on a moment's notice. I know someone who was evacuated from an accident scene and paid $12,000 an hour to a helicopter company in PH. These are the ones who can afford it.

But people like you who are stuck in Nigeria are not bothered about the rot in the system that is driving our doctors out of the country by the thousands.

May we never get to where Liberia is now, where there are less than 70 doctors in the entire country. That is why when Ebola hit Liberia, it hit them hard, and one of them decided to carry his illness to Nigeria and ended causing the death of Dr Adadevoh and several others.


her death is still painful, yet millions of Nigerians owe their lives to her. Yet they bash doctors

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Nobody: 5:09am On Sep 02, 2018
adahib:
OP it's unfortunate what happened to the accident victim and how the doctors responded without proper explanation. for them to turn down payments via bank transfer indicates something. perhaps the patient was too bad for them to handle given their skills and available equipment. They should have explained that to you clearly.

Like people have been pointing out, Nigeria needs a functional health insurance scheme to cover emergency cases especially. That will go a long way in helping most people in emergency situations.

That said, when I read the comments of most people on nairaland, I shudder at the hate and resentment most people have for doctors in this country. Yes, there are some bad doctors but that holds true in every sector and every country of the world. So castigating the entirety of doctors in Nigeria makes no sense. We should ask ourselves, if Nigerian doctors are so bad, why are the clinics always full? why do the same terrible doctors excel so well outside the country? A few days ago, a lady posted how much she detested doctors because they don't spend time with her. while I agree that a doctor should always explain to a patient what is ailing him/her, I totally disagree that a doctor needs to spend the entire day on a single patient. I work in a government hospital that attends to over 10,000 people and others who still come from outside. We are only 7. A typical clinic day can contain over 500 people. We have to see patients in the ward, do surgeries and still take calls. Yet one still expects us to spend an hour on a single patient.

While some of us don't do too well as regards our attitude, most relate perfectly with people. So please let's tone down on this doctor hate. I'm yet to see anyone open a thread about how a doctor saved him or her. Or are we to believe that no doctor in Nigeria has ever saved the life of a Nigerian?
if they dont do it, people abroad are doing it for us. wish i could find a link to the story of a nigerian doctor who operated a fetus out the womb and put it back in it's mums abdomen. We will continue to do well outside

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by jonadaft: 7:00am On Sep 02, 2018
SooCute:
Who cares about this fCT?

Its a fvckry to me!

Linda Ikeji Bullcrab,
Nigerian politicians fooling you,
Me loitering in this fvckry space,
Me liking post both for and against!
WTF is even wrong wif this planet?
So many miserable fools online...
Smh
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by jonadaft: 7:03am On Sep 02, 2018
sainty2k3:

That same doctor can not rush to a pharmacy and get the emergency drugs on credit not to talk of getting it free. The issue about Doctors and emergency cases is like this can only be resolved with good health insurance scheme. Probably all they need to do is to scan the man's finger print , get him treated and the Insurance coy pays the bill.
If the doctor treat 3 emergencies and no one pay him. How will you ensure that you still meet that Hospital there in the nearest future

worlexy:
OP you're no different from an average Nigerian, instead of addressing that government has failed us, you're pointing an accusing finger to the doctors. If only the govt can give all Nigerians universal health insurance coverage such issues would not have happened( what that means is that everybody will get treated when hospitals know that insurance company will pay the bills) doctors have families too, he won't feed his families with Hippocratic Oath and he didn't use charity to build his hospital neither will his staff feed on charity, who told you that he has the necessary skills and equipments to handle such a case, and if he had improvised it's people like you that will drag him to the mud that he's incompetent like the case that happened with the corper shot by the Police in Abuja.
Go and break up with your medical student Fiance because of the experience you had with doctors trying to make ends meet. Engage the relevant govt agencies and stop embarrassing yourself online.
So many miserable fools on the internet...
People just type rubbish without using their brain... It's a shame.


Did u read the part where they offered ẹ-payments?
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Gracesofar(m): 7:37am On Sep 02, 2018
funmisticqueen:
thank you sir, as for me i have no hope for the nigerian patient. They cant see past the hate, because jamb rejected them. There is a government hospital in lagos that is presently without a neurologist cos he has relocated to the UK, this is someone that studied physiotherapy, then medicine, then residency. Just imagine how much time he wasted. Studing medicine is not worth it in nigeria because the Nigerian patient is too ignorant to be worth it, you will perform surgery for them and then they later lay gifts at their pastors feet, saying God shamed the doctors and the devil. Let Nigeria get to Liberia's level so that they will understand, if they will.

Haba.... Jamb rejected them? You think everyone you meet wanna be a doctor? Baba keep your stethoscope, some peoples dreams are just bigger. And I don't blame your myopic view though. Its common among local champions who have nothing to offer than pride and empty bragging



BTW, one of the most overrated jobs in Nigeria is medicine.

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Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Jaqenhghar: 8:07am On Sep 02, 2018
funmisticqueen:
this one is a pained nigga.

what you didnt tell them is how UK doctors are leaving for US, Canada and Australia, that is why UK relaxed immigration laws for nigerian doctors and the likes and now even offer them residency so that they too don't relocate to the USA and co once they have made their money and passed their exams.

every nigerian doctor seeking to relocate knows that UK is not the final bustop.
This is one dumb nigga
They may go to Mars and why shouldn't they? Bottomline is wherever they go theu cant try the nonsense they do in Niggeria. Somehow that fúcked up sense of entitlement and not being accountable to anyone gets knocked out of their heads
Re: Do Doctors' Hippocratic Oath Count? My Experience With A Doctor by Jaqenhghar: 8:43am On Sep 02, 2018
funmisticqueen:
i hope you know that foreign based doctors have prejudice against doctors from immigrant countries, the person may have been rascist
Now calling out someone for what he /she is is now racist. SMH. FYI the person speaking is British of Nigerian origins. She was excited about meeting up with doctors from the fatherland etc and was thoroughly dissapointed about their level of practical knowledge.

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