Amen

Surely

Thanks

I love the lord God Almighty

Be free

Amen

Yea

Facepalm

And this is really sophisticated theology in action.
Full of meaningless comments, meant to bury the fact that it means nothing.

lightblazingnow:
I love the lord God Almighty

Who are you telling?

Thought it should be a personal conviction

hmm

Gu

Self don't truly care about other people's Souls till self has been lost into Christ for Him to control permanently. JESUS had to appear to Peter twice and asked him: "Peter, do you love me more than these(food, houses, money, worldliness)? Then, feed my flock" You are said to have lost your Soul for CHRIST's sake when your major focus in Life is preparing yours and other people's Souls to live forever through YEHSHUA HaMashiach LORD. The original plan of ALMIGHTY CREATOR is for us live forever but HE decided to give and test us with this short life to see how we'll use it first. Those that use this Life to do His Will shall surely Live.

i thought Nesus was killed and lost himself for christians or humanity so that they will live forever? Why are they now losing themselves for him again? Then he shouldn't have been killed for their sake.

Same regurgitated meaningless horse shît been fed to zombies every Sunday. Religion is a joke.

EternalBeing:
Self don't truly care about other people's Souls till self has been lost into Christ for Him to control permanently. JESUS had to appear to Peter twice and asked him: "Peter, do you love me more than these(food, houses, money, worldliness)? Then, feed my flock" You are said to have lost your Soul for CHRIST's sake when your major focus in Life is preparing yours and other people's Souls to live forever through YEHSHUA HaMashiach LORD. The original plan of ALMIGHTY CREATOR is for us live forever but HE decided to give and test us with this short life to see how we'll use it first. Those that use this Life to do His Will shall surely Live.

"......but HE decided to give and test us with this short life to see how we'll use it first....."


By this you imply that He doesn't know the future and so His knowledge is limited. That's why He has to test and see first....(a sort of trial and error).

By that you just denied His Almighty status and His omni-scient, potent and present attributes.

it's better to say we don't know than try to explain what we don't fully understand

OyinO:
i thought Nesus was killed and lost himself for christians or humanity so that they will live forever? Why are they now losing themselves for him again? Then he shouldn't have been killed for their sake.

Jesus coming on earth and His death on the cross was to form a Bridge between God and man (Divine and Human). He does not do the "Walking" for man. Man must do the "walk" themselves. Man must use the bridge himself.
Yes the bridge has been provided for by Jesus, it's mans duty to make use of the bridge to crossover and that my brother is a work of a lifetime. With every "thought", "words", "actions", and "inaction" of man in his lifetime, he's either walking on the "bridge" towards his destination (with almost inevitable minor bumps & slumps & delays on the way) Or he's off the bridge entirely and will remain forever separated from his destination.
Yours is to make sure you're walking on the bridge.

Back to Op.

To loose yourself for Christ doesn't mean you're doing Christ a favour or that you're sacrificing something for Christ. No, you're only doing yourself a favour.
It means NOT HAVING TOO MANY ATTACHMENTS while you walk on that "bridge"(as explained above) so that you don't loose yourself balance and fall off from the bridge.

Remember that "the bridge is narrow". It's Strong but it's narrow. You have to walk on that narrow bridge to reach your destination. Do everything to be on that bridge including loosing anything you're inordinately attached to.

Peace.

sKeetz:
Same regurgitated meaningless horse shît been fed to zombies every Sunday. Religion is a joke.

You are correct! But do you think they are talking about religion here? No, they are talking about CHRIST. A true Christian is not first of all a religious freak instead he is a disciple of Christ. All am saying is that, don't mix a Christian up with Sunday Sunday church goers who go about collecting bribes and doing other unimaginable things. He just can't do it.

Self is the greatest enemy a Christian can have. The greatest victory a Christian can have is that overcoming the flesh(self).

May the almight God be praised forever in the whole universe and may his goodness flows in my life and entire family in Jesus name, Amen.

Benekruku:



Who are you telling?

Thought it should be a personal conviction

See the reason the world keeps going bad.
But if you want to talk about your romance or escapade it is not personal. therealhippocrates

studentofTruth:



Jesus coming on earth and His death on the cross was to form a Bridge between God and man (Divine and Human). He does not do the "Walking" for man. Man must do the "walk" themselves. Man must use the bridge himself.
Yes the bridge has been provided for by Jesus, it's mans duty to make use of the bridge to crossover and that my brother is a work of a lifetime. With every "thought", "words", "actions", and "inaction" of man in his lifetime, he's either walking on the "bridge" towards his destination (with almost inevitable minor bumps & slumps & delays on the way) Or he's off the bridge entirely and will remain forever separated from his destination.
Yours is to make sure you're walking on the bridge.

Jesus was killed by 3 nails of Roman soldiers for uproar, blashphemy, teaching against Mosaic Laws and for calling himself King of the Jews. His killers never said they killed him for the sins of the world. And if he was killed for the sins of the world, why is there still sin, sickness and death? Then his death is meaningless to mankind.

xcelentattitude:


You are correct! But do you think they are talking about religion here? No, they are talking about CHRIST. A true Christian is not first of all a religious freak instead he is a disciple of Christ. All am saying is that, don't mix a Christian up with Sunday Sunday church goers who go about collecting bribes and doing other unimaginable things. He just can't do it.

Another one who delibrately fails to understand that the emperor really has no clothes.

OyinO:

Jesus was killed by 3 nails of Roman soldiers for uproar, blashphemy, teaching against Mosaic Laws and for calling himself King of the Jews. His killers never said they killed him for the sins of the world. And if he was killed for the sins of the world, why is there still sin, sickness and death? Then his death is meaningless to mankind.

My dear I love your question. I understand your confusion... it stems from pastors' confusion on that statement..."it is finished". But if you really understood my "bridge" analogy, you will understand that Christ's death does not mean that sin and "evil" will no longer exist on earth.

"it's finished" means "it's completed". it means that He has completed His work. It means the "bridge has been built". Put in another way, it means "the work of building the bridge has been completed". So humans can now get to their destination... Heaven. However, it doesn't mean Human will automatically be transported to their destination. Each and every individual must transport himself via that bridge to his destination. The journey to his destination via that bridge is a lifetime process with may bumps and delays (personal sins) on the way. So every thought, word, action and inaction of man determines if he's accelerating or decelerating during his journey on the bridge OR IF he has TOTALLY fallen off the bridge.

Another analogy:
Christ bought a ticket to heaven for us, Having the ticket does not take us to the plane and starting our journey. Each individual has to do that himself. Having the ticket does not mean we can't loose it(personal sins) or fall into mud(personal sins) with it such that the mud cover our name on the ticket completely rendering it useless until it's washed clean and our name become legible.

Yet another analogy. this one was used by Christ himself. Christ death opened the gate to heaven. prior to Christ coming and death, the gate was closed. His death opened the gate. But opening the gate doesn't mean automatic entry. You must strive to enter through that gate.
("It's finished" means the gate has been opened, it's now left for humans to strive to enter through that gate).

To bring it to Bible context, Christ death on the Cross opened a way for humans to get to heaven but does not automatically put humans in heaven. Put differently, Christ's death ONLY gave humans a chance to heaven but it is left for the individual to grab the chance. Christ himself said..."only the violent taketh it by force"Mt 11:12. Jesus here used analogy of a gate....."strive to enter through the narrow gate" Lk 13:24. St. Paul said..."workout your salvation with fear and trembling" Phil 2:12.

So Christ's death was never to abolish personal sins and shortcomings neither was it to abolish "evil". Christ's death was NEVER to abolish our FREEWILL (AS FAR AS HUMANS HAVE FREEWILL, EVIL MUST ABOUND).
Christ's death was ONLY to open the gate of heaven for humans. it's left for each individual to strive to enter through that Gate..."the way to the Father" Jn14:6. We must make effort to enter. Any pastor that tells it's "finished" ...just your faith alone, lied to you. By your every thought, word, action and inaction, you're either moving toward your destination or you're stumbling or you're completely missing the way.

So my dear, Christ's death wasn't useless because without His death, there was never any possibility of heaven.... the gate of heaven would have been locked to us. His death opened the gate thereby giving us the opportunity to enter heaven. So know that if we follow His teachings, we will be able to enter through that gate.
He has opened the gate therefore NO EXCUSE. We must strive to enter through that gate.

peace.

studentofTruth:


My dear I love your question. I understand your confusion... it stems from pastors' confusion on that statement..."it is finished". But if you really understood my "bridge" analogy, you will understand that Christ's death does not mean that sin and "evil" will no longer exist on earth.

"it's finished" means "it's completed". it means that He has completed His work. It means the "bridge has been built". Put in another way, it means "the work of building the bridge has been completed". So humans can now get to their destination... Heaven. However, it doesn't mean Human will automatically be transported to their destination. Each and every individual must transport himself via that bridge to his destination. The journey to his destination via that bridge is a lifetime process with may bumps and delays (personal sins) on the way. So every thought, word, action and inaction of man determines if he's accelerating or decelerating during his journey on the bridge OR IF he has TOTALLY fallen off the bridge.

Another analogy:
Christ bought a ticket to heaven for us, Having the ticket does not take us to the plane and starting our journey. Each individual has to do that himself. Having the ticket does not mean we can't loose it(personal sins) or fall into mud(personal sins) with it such that the mud cover our name on the ticket completely rendering it useless until it's washed clean and our name become legible.

Yet another analogy. this one was used by Christ himself. Christ death opened the gate to heaven. prior to Christ coming and death, the gate was closed. His death opened the gate. But opening the gate doesn't mean automatic entry. You must strive to enter through that gate.
("It's finished" means the gate has been opened, it's now left for humans to strive to enter through that gate).

To bring it to Bible context, Christ death on the Cross opened a way for humans to get to heaven but does not automatically put humans in heaven. Put differently, Christ's death ONLY gave humans a chance to heaven but it is left for the individual to grab the chance. Christ himself said..."only the violent taketh it by force"Mt 11:12. Jesus here used analogy of a gate....."strive to enter through the narrow gate" Lk 13:24. St. Paul said..."workout your salvation with fear and trembling" Phil 2:12.

So Christ's death was never to abolish personal sins and shortcomings neither was it to abolish "evil". Christ's death was NEVER to abolish our FREEWILL (AS FAR AS HUMANS HAVE FREEWILL, EVIL MUST ABOUND).
Christ's death was ONLY to open the gate of heaven for humans. it's left for each individual to strive to enter through that Gate..."the way to the Father" Jn14:6. We must make effort to enter. Any pastor that tells it's "finished" ...just your faith alone, lied to you. By your every thought, word, action and inaction, you're either moving toward your destination or you're stumbling or you're completely missing the way.

So my dear, Christ's death wasn't useless because without His death, there was never any possibility of heaven.... the gate of heaven would have been locked to us. His death opened the gate thereby giving us the opportunity to enter heaven. So know that if we follow His teachings, we will be able to enter through that gate.
He has opened the gate therefore NO EXCUSE. We must strive to enter through that gate.

peace.

Your pale European Colonial Christ didnt die for me. My Ancestors died for me. I am not going to your Greek Heaven of Greek Mythology.

OyinO:


Your pale European Colonial Christ didnt die for me. My Ancestors died for me. I am not going to your Greek Heaven of Greek Mythology.

OK.
Peace.

Zodiac61:

Another one who delibrately fails to understand that the emperor really has no clothes.

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