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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Ikmontana1: 10:54pm On Sep 02, 2018
m confused rite nw ..
maybe I shud invest in secondary market 2maro at 100+ tenor or jus wait till next week n invest in primary mrkt directly at 364 days ,
cos m predicting d rates at primary mrkt might increase at nxt week auction ..
very confused rite nw ..
jus wnt to mk more money ..
Bosses, any suggestion ??
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Gavrelino123: 11:51pm On Sep 02, 2018
Ikmontana1:
m confused rite nw ..
maybe I shud invest in secondary market 2maro at 100+ tenor or jus wait till next week n invest in primary mrkt directly at 364 days ,
cos m predicting d rates at primary mrkt might increase at nxt week auction ..
very confused rite nw ..
jus wnt to mk more money ..
Bosses, any suggestion ??
I will advise you Invest in Secondary market tomorrow ....i believe by tomorrow,the secondary market rates will go up......
It's not worth waiting till next week......Interest is calculated daily.......so you will loose more....the longer you wait,the more you loose...!!!!!

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Chiscomax(m): 11:52pm On Sep 02, 2018
Kaysalas:

Hi, saw ur request for investoo videos, i can give you all those vids and more (over 7 gig) if you want, for a token, affirm if you want or decline asap
u re quoting me in the wrong thread
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Ikmontana1: 2:52am On Sep 03, 2018
Gavrelino123:

I will advise you Invest in Secondary market tomorrow ....i believe by tomorrow,the secondary market rates will go up......
It's not worth waiting till next week......Interest is calculated daily.......so you will loose more....the longer you wait,the more you loose...!!!!!
tanx boss
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by RealityShot: 8:42am On Sep 03, 2018
Gavrelino123:

I will advise you Invest in Secondary market tomorrow ....i believe by tomorrow,the secondary market rates will go up......
It's not worth waiting till next week......Interest is calculated daily.......so you will loose more....the longer you wait,the more you loose...!!!!!
wait o... But how will secondary market price go up now;
Is it not when other people break their Holdings that secondary market gets deals?

Or do you think banks will start offerings better rates from their new, more profitable portfolio?

I think he should wait.. I sure will.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Gavrelino123: 9:32am On Sep 03, 2018
RealityShot:
wait o... But how will secondary market price go up now;
Is it not when other people break their Holdings that secondary market gets deals?

Or do you think banks will start offerings better rates from their new, more profitable portfolio?

I think he should wait.. I sure will.
Why should he wait..?
I got 195 days @ 11.6% on last Friday.......!!!
But when i made enquiries last Monday,the maximum was 11%...... 0.6% sub-rise.
This is a common intelligence and understanding☄☄☄
Even if he waits for the next primary Auction,364 days should be around 12.5% or 12% as against the stop rate which is 13+.......Don't be surprised to see some banks bidding 12% or less....
The risk of failed bid...☄☄☄☄
I don't think it's worth waiting.....because he's also loosing in reality.....the numbers of days wasted..!!
Have you forgotten that he's loosing each day he waits in the real valuation of time and interest..?
Waiting for over a week..?
Lol..............................
Oga....time is money...!!!!
I understand you lucidly...

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by eagleeye2: 10:04am On Sep 03, 2018
ahiboilandgas:
if u buy at 15 then rate drop to 10 and u choose to sell before maturity u will make profit ,but if u buy at 10 and rate jump to 15 and u choose to liquidate u loose money
That is the reverse of stock trading?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by IHelp: 10:09am On Sep 03, 2018
Gavrelino123:

Why should he wait..?
I got 195 days @ 11.6% on last Friday.......!!!
But when i made enquiries last Monday,the maximum was 11%...... 0.6% sub-rise.
This is a common intelligence and understanding☄☄☄
Even if he waits for the next primary Auction,364 days should be around 12.5% or 12% as against the stop rate which is 13+.......Don't be surprised to see some banks bidding 12% or less....
The risk of failed bid...☄☄☄☄
I don't think it's worth waiting.....because he's also loosing in reality.....the numbers of days wasted..!!
Have you forgotten that he's loosing each day he waits in the real valuation of time and interest..?
Waiting for over a week..?
Lol..............................
Oga....time is money...!!!!
I understand you lucidly...

Ikmontana1:
m confused rite nw ..
maybe I shud invest in secondary market 2maro at 100+ tenor or jus wait till next week n invest in primary mrkt directly at 364 days ,
cos m predicting d rates at primary mrkt might increase at nxt week auction ..
very confused rite nw ..
jus wnt to mk more money ..
Bosses, any suggestion ??

I will wait if am in your position Ikmontana1. If the fund is large, I will split it 40%sec & 60% pri

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Gavrelino123: 10:19am On Sep 03, 2018
IHelp:




I will wait if am in your position Ikmontana1. If the fund is large, I will split it 40%sec & 60% pri
I will support this.......splitting of funds..
Yes,that's also correct...
Time is money☄☄☄
Not just waiting without any interest accumulation....☄☄☄
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by dipoolowoo: 10:50am On Sep 03, 2018
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Just2endowed2(m): 11:40am On Sep 03, 2018
dipoolowoo:
N295b T-Bills Mature This Week as CBN Woos Investors With Higher Rates
https://www.businesspost.ng/2018/09/03/n295b-t-bills-mature-this-week-as-cbn-woos-investors-with-higher-rates/

make he come back to 18% jor grin

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Ikmontana1: 12:23pm On Sep 03, 2018
IHelp:




I will wait if am in your position Ikmontana1. If the fund is large, I will split it 40%sec & 60% pri
tanx boss ..
ma conclusion is to go for secondary market today for 90 to 120 days tenor at 11% rate, so by December or January, I can re-invest in d primary mrkt ..
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Kemade2007(f): 12:43pm On Sep 03, 2018
Please I need your advice o
On Friday I went to Stanbic for my TB(secondary market). In the evening, my account was debited with the exact money I invested and other transfer fee was also debited. To my surprise, till this hour I've not been credited with my interest and ds is unusual of them. Please advise me on what to do. This is my third time of TB with Stanbic and it was not like that before
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Ikmontana1: 1:07pm On Sep 03, 2018
Kemade2007:
Please I need your advice o
On Friday I went to Stanbic for my TB(secondary market). In the evening, my account was debited with the exact money I invested and other transfer fee was also debited. To my surprise, till this hour I've not been credited with my interest and ds is unusual of them. Please advise me on what to do. This is my third time of TB with Stanbic and it was not like that before
fear catch me wit dis ur complain oo, cos today will b d first time m investing in sec. market..
but d best u can do is to go to same stanbic bank branch, n same desk u did ur t-bills to inquire abt d delay on ur upfront interest ..
hop this helps ..

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by NL1960: 1:56pm On Sep 03, 2018
Please does anybody have an idea of GTbank secondary market tenors and rates for today?. I intend going there tomorrow for secondary market. If they do not have anything attractive, i might as well wait for next week primary market.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Kemade2007(f): 2:01pm On Sep 03, 2018
Ikmontana1:
fear catch me wit dis ur complain oo, cos today will b d first time m investing in sec. market..
but d best u can do is to go to same stanbic bank branch, n same desk u did ur t-bills to inquire abt d delay on ur upfront interest ..
hop this helps ..

Thanks. I'm not available today till Wednesday, that's my fear
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Mfunkynation(m): 2:59pm On Sep 03, 2018
Kemade2007:


Thanks. I'm not available today till Wednesday, that's my fear
pls dont be afraid. Your cas is safe. google the branch of that bank, get their contact n call. or u engage stanbic via their twitter handle
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Mfunkynation(m): 3:06pm On Sep 03, 2018
Ikmontana1:
fear catch me wit dis ur complain oo, cos today will b d first time m investing in sec. market..
but d best u can do is to go to same stanbic bank branch, n same desk u did ur t-bills to inquire abt d delay on ur upfront interest ..
hop this helps ..

Fear not or maybe you aint ready to invest the funds. make sure you try n get a best deal
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Mfunkynation(m): 3:08pm On Sep 03, 2018
please house, who have access to today FBN secondary market rate n tenors?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Ikmontana1: 3:40pm On Sep 03, 2018
got to First bank today at abt a little past 3pm, was told they can't help me wit d sec market rates because I came after 3pm, dat I shud com 2moro before 3pm ..
so 2moro it is den ..

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Kemade2007(f): 4:13pm On Sep 03, 2018
Ikmontana1:
got to First bank today at abt a little past 3pm, was told they can't help me wit d sec market rates because I came after 3pm, dat I shud com 2moro before 3pm ..
so 2moro it is den ..


Go before 3pm o because market closes around 12pm or 1pm. It opens 10am

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Ikmontana1: 5:19pm On Sep 03, 2018
Kemade2007:



Go before 3pm o because market closes around 12pm or 1pm. It opens 10am
tanx sis ..
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by chukzyfcbb: 7:18pm On Sep 03, 2018
Ikmontana1:
fear catch me wit dis ur complain oo, cos today will b d first time m investing in sec. market..
but d best u can do is to go to same stanbic bank branch, n same desk u did ur t-bills to inquire abt d delay on ur upfront interest ..
hop this helps ..
He was actually credited, the thing is that CBN has stopped sending the alert for the upfront interest, so he shouldn't rely on the credit alert but to go to the bank and confirm.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Nobody: 7:37pm On Sep 03, 2018
Kemade2007:



Go before 3pm o because market closes around 12pm or 1pm. It opens 10am

Confirm please as I know it to close by 3pm and starts by open of business, mails only come late to branches or sometimes the respective officers don't open mail on time.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by TONY56: 8:09pm On Sep 03, 2018
Kemade2007:
Please I need your advice o
On Friday I went to Stanbic for my TB(secondary market). In the evening, my account was debited with the exact money I invested and other transfer fee was also debited. To my surprise, till this hour I've not been credited with my interest and ds is unusual of them. Please advise me on what to do. This is my third time of TB with Stanbic and it was not like that before


I had same experience with them (Stanbic) on Fri 6th July 2018.
I invested N1m at the secondary market for about 142 days at 11.5% and I was suprised to be debited almost same amount instead of the discounted amount of about N960,000.
I had to call the TB officer to tell him that there was an error and I discovered that I even know more about treasury bills than many of them.

Can you imagine that he was telling me that my interest would be paid at maturity to which I told him can't be correct because I did not reinvest my interest which of course Stanbic does not do.

I stood my ground until they started begging me after about 3days and told me that they invested both my principal amount and the upfront interest in error.

They asked me to exercise patience and that they would resell the difference but to avoid more complications I asked them to leave it like that.

A lot of inexperienced TB officers are handling it in the banks now. If you yourself is not knowledgeable enough, they will confuse you.

I can bet you that they invested your money together with its upfront interest just as they did to me. If you really need the upfront interest, then insist that they MUST pay you or report them to their head office and they will be sanctioned and the transaction will be amended and your interest paid to you.

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Gavrelino123: 8:40pm On Sep 03, 2018
TONY56:



I had same experience with them (Stanbic) on Fri 6th July 2018.
I invested N1m at the secondary market for about 142 days at 11.5% and I was suprised to be debited almost same amount instead of the discounted amount of about N960,000.
I had to call the TB officer to tell him that there was an error and I discovered that I even know more about treasury bills than many of them.

Can you imagine that he was telling me that my interest would be paid at maturity to which I told him can't be correct because I did not reinvest my interest which of course Stanbic does not do.

I stood my ground until they started begging me after about 3days and told me that they invested both my principal amount and the upfront interest in error.

They asked me to exercise patience and that they would resell the difference but to avoid more complications I asked them to leave it like that.

A lot of inexperienced TB officers are handling it in the banks now. If you yourself is not knowledgeable enough, they will confuse you.

I can bet you that they invested your money together with its upfront interest just as they did to me. If you really need the upfront interest, then insist that they MUST pay you or report them to their head office and they will be sanctioned and the transaction will be amended and your interest paid to you.
Oga Tony,how about requesting for the TB Certificate to view the transaction history clearly..?
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by ukay2: 8:45pm On Sep 03, 2018
Gavrelino123:

Oga Tony,how about requesting for the TB Certificate to view the transaction history clearly..?

I think that will be better than to assume....

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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Gavrelino123: 8:50pm On Sep 03, 2018
ukay2:

I think that will be better than to assume....
Yes,let it serve as an evidence.
Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Agbaletu: 8:59pm On Sep 03, 2018
Gavrelino123:

Oga Tony,how about requesting for the TB Certificate to view the transaction history clearly..?
You are right. I wanted to tell him to request his cert.
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Re: Treasury Bills In Nigeria by Oma255: 10:04pm On Sep 03, 2018
Stanbic secondary market rate today.

59 days - 10.35%
101 days - 11 %
143 days - 11.5%

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