What does the Bible say about homosexuality?
By Sam Allberry

It is a surprise to many people to discover that there are only a handful of passages in the Bible that directly mention homosexuality. Yet despite its infrequent mention, where the subject does come up, the Bible has some very important things to say about it. We need to understand them if we’re to avoid the twin mistakes of homophobia and thinking God is indifferent about how we use our sexuality.
The first two passages that directly mention homosexuality come from the Old Testament, the other three are from the

New Testament.


1. Genesis 19
Sodom has become so associated with homosexual conduct that its name was for many ears a byword for it. But is 'sodomy' really what Sodom is about?
The account describes the men of the city attempting to forcibly have sex with two angelic visitors to the city, who have appeared in the form of men. Later parts of the Old Testament accuse Sodom of a range of sins: oppression, adultery, lying, abetting criminals, arrogance, complacency and indifference to the poor. None of these even mentions homosexual conduct. This has led some people to wonder if we have read homosexuality into the Genesis narrative, when in fact the real issue was social oppression and injustice. But a close look at the text makes it clear that homosexuality was in fact involved.
Although the Hebrew word for “know” ( yada ) can just mean to “get to know” someone (rather than to “know” them sexually), it is clear from the crowd’s aggression (and Lot’s dreadful attempt at offering them his daughters as an alternative) that they are looking for much more than social acquaintance. Hence what happens next: the angels warn Lot that judgment is imminent (v.13).
In the New Testament, Jude adds an important insight:
...just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding cities, which likewise indulged in sexual immorality and pursued unnatural desire, serve as an example by undergoing a punishment of eternal fire. (Jude 7)
What happened at Sodom is clearly meant to be something of a cautionary tale. Jude makes it clear that their ungodliness involved sexual immorality. They were punished for sexual sin along with the other sins of which they were guilty.
Jude also highlights the nature of their sexual desires: they pursued “unnatural desire” (literally, unnatural “flesh”). Some have suggested that this relates to the fact that the visitors to the city were angelic; Jude references angelic sin earlier in his letter. But these angels appeared as men, and the baying crowd outside Lot’s house showed no evidence of knowing they were angelic. Their desire was to have sex with the men staying with Lot. In other words, it was the homosexual nature of their desires, and not just the violent expression of them, that is highlighted in the New Testament.

2. Leviticus 18 & 20
Leviticus contains two well known statements about homosexual activity:
You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; it is an abomination. (Leviticus 18:22)
If a man lies with a male as with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them. (Leviticus 20:13)
“An abomination” is often used to describe idolatry, and some suggest these verses are not condemning homosexual behaviour in general, but only the cultic prostitution connected to pagan temples. It is also often claimed that the fact that these prohibitions appear in a book full of other laws which no Christians think they are expected to follow today suggests that they should not be taken as having abiding moral relevance. But to take the first objection, the language used is not that specific; it refers to lying with a man “as with a woman,” - that is, in very general terms. Secondly, the surrounding verses in each instance describe other forms of sexual sin (such as incest, adultery and bestiality), none of which is anything to do with pagan temples or idolatry, and which we would take as being applicable to Christians today. It is moral, rather than just pagan religious behaviour that’s in view. Furthermore, Leviticus 20:13 highlights both male parties equally, again suggesting general, consensual homosexual activity (as opposed to gay rape or a forced relationship).

3. Romans 1:18-32
Turning to the New Testament, Romans 1 has much to say about the nature and character of homosexual behaviour.
Paul’s aim in these early chapters is to demonstrate that the whole world is unrighteous in God’s sight, and therefore in need of salvation. In Romans 1:18-32 he zeroes in on the Gentile world, describing the way it has turned away from God and embraced idolatry. The particular details in the passage may indicate that Paul is using the Greco-Roman culture surrounding his readers as a case in point.
Gentile society faces God’s wrath because it has suppressed the truth that God has revealed about himself in creation (verses 18-20). In the verses that follow, Paul illustrates how this has happened, giving three examples of how what has been known about God has been exchanged for something else: they exchange the glory of God for images of creatures (verse 23); the truth of God for a lie, leading to full-blown idolatry, worshipping created things (verse 25); and reject the knowledge of God (verse 28), exchanging “natural” relations for “unnatural” ones:
For this reason God gave them up to dishonourable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error. (Romans 1:26-27)

Two important and sobering truths are apparent from these verses:

1. Homosexual desire is not what God originally intended. This is not to say that homosexual desire is the only thing that God did not originally intend. All of our desires have been distorted by sin. But Paul does describe both lesbian and male homosexual behaviour as “unnatural.” Some have argued this refers to what is natural to the people themselves, so that what is in view is heterosexual people engaging in homosexual activity and thereby going against their “natural” orientation. According to this view, Paul is not condemning all homosexual behaviour, but only that which goes against the person’s own sexual inclinations. But this view cannot be supported by the passage itself. The words for “natural” and “against nature” refer not to our subjective experience of what feels natural to us, but to the fixed way of things in creation. The nature that Paul says homosexual behaviour contradicts is God’s purpose for us, revealed in creation and reiterated throughout Scripture.

Paul’s reference to lesbianism as well as male homosexual conduct also supports the idea that he is condemning all homosexual activity, and not just the man-boy relationships that occurred in Roman culture.
The strength of Paul’s language here should not make us think that homosexual conduct is the worst or only form of sinful behaviour. Paul may be highlighting it because it is a particularly vivid example, and may have been especially pertinent for his readers in Rome given their cultural context. Either way it is illustrative of something that is the case for all of us: as we reject God we find ourselves craving what we are not naturally designed to do. This is as true of a heterosexual person as of a homosexual person. There are no grounds in this passage for singling out homosexual people for any kind of special condemnation. The same passage indicts all of us.

2. Our distorted desires are a sign that we have turned away from God. It is important to recognize that Paul is talking here in social rather than individual terms. He is describing what happens to culture as a whole, rather than particular people. The presence of same-sex desire in some of us is not an indication that we’ve turned from God more than others, but a sign that humanity as a whole has done so. It is not the only sign, and in everyone there is no doubt more than one sign or another - but it is a sign nevertheless.

Paul writes that alongside the gospel, “The wrath of God is being revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men” (Romans 1:19). Though there will one day be a “day of wrath when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed” (Romans 2:5), there is already a present-day expression of God’s anger against sin. We see God’s wrath in this: he gives us what we want.
In response to the exchanges Paul has described, we see three instances of God giving us over to live in the outcome of our sinful desires. This is his present-day judgment against sin. We ask for a reality without him and he gives us a taster of it.

In each case the “giving over” results in an intensification of the sin and the further breakdown of human behaviour. God gives humanity over to impure lusts and dishonourable bodily conduct (verse 24), and to “dishonourable passions” (verse 26). The exchanging of natural relations for unnatural leads to being given over to a “debased mind” and the flourishing of “all manner of unrighteousness” which Paul unpacks in a long list of antisocial behaviours (verse 28-31). Sin leads to judgment, but judgment also leads to further sin.

The presence of all these sinful acts is a reminder that we live in a world which has deliberately turned away from God in all sorts of ways, and is therefore experiencing a foretaste of God’s anger and courting its final outpouring on the day of judgment. Again, homosexual activity is certainly not the only sinful act. All of us are guilty. But it listed among them as one of the ways in which human nature as a whole has been changed from what God originally intended.

4. 1 Corinthians 6:9-10
Paul writes:
Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality, nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. (1 Corinthians 6:9-10)
In these verses Paul is describing different kinds of people who (unless they repent) will be excluded from the kingdom of God. Four kinds relate to sexual sin, and two of those specifically to homosexual behaviour. The ESV takes the latter and puts them together as “men who practice homosexuality”, while the NIV translates them as “male prostitutes and homosexual offenders”.
The first of the two terms relating to homosexuality is malakoi , which translated literally means “soft ones.” In classical literature it could be used as a pejorative term for men who were effeminate; for the younger, passive partner in a pederastic (man-boy) relationship; and to refer to male prostitutes (hence the NIV’s translation). In 1 Corinthians 6 malakoi comes in a list describing general forms of sexual sin, and the context suggests Paul is most likely using it in a broad way to refer to the passive partners in homosexual intercourse, as we are about to see.

The second term he Paul uses. is arsenokoitai . This is a compound of “male” ( arsen ) and “intercourse” ( koites , literally “bed”). These are the two words used in the Greek translation of Leviticus 18:22 and 20:13, suggesting that Paul is linking back to those two passages. (Paul has already just made a connection with Leviticus in 1 Corinthians 5, where he condemns the church’s acceptance of a man living with his father’s wife using language that echoes Leviticus 18:7-8. For Paul, the sexual sins which Leviticus prohibits remain forbidden for New Testament Christians.) Arsenokoitai , then, is a general term for male same-sex sex, and its pairing with malakoi indicates that Paul is addressing both the active and passive partners in homosexual sex.
So what does all this mean for our understanding of homosexuality?
1. Homosexual sin is serious. Paul says the active and unrepentant homosexual, as with
all active, unrepentant sinners, will not enter God’s kingdom. Paul urges his readers not to be deceived on this point. He assumes there will be those who deny this teaching, and argue that some forms of homosexual conduct are acceptable to God. But Paul is clear: homosexual conduct leads people to destruction. This is a serious issue.
2. Homosexual sin is not unique. Paul’s list includes other forms of sexual sin (sexual immorality and adultery), and it includes non-sexual forms of sin (drunkenness and theft, for example). Homosexual sin is incredibly serious, but it is not alone in being so. It is wicked, but so is, say, greed. We must not imply that homosexual sex is the sin of our age. If we are to be faithful to Scripture, we must also preach against theft, greed, drunkenness, reviling, and defrauding others, many of which are also trivialised in our society, and all of which also characterize the unrighteous.
3. Homosexual sin is not inescapable. Paul continues in verse 11: “And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of God” (1 Corinthians 6:11).
These forms of behaviour are not appropriate for the Corinthian church precisely because it is not who they are any more. Some of them clearly had been active homosexuals. They did once live in these ways. But no more. They have been washed, sanctified and justified; forgiven, cleansed from their sins, and set apart for God. They have a new standing and identity before him.
However ingrained it may be in someone’s behaviour, homosexual conduct is not inescapable. It is possible for someone living a practicing gay lifestyle to be made new by God. Temptations and feelings may well linger. That Paul is warning his readers not to revert to their former way of life suggests there is still some desire to do so. But in Christ we are no longer who we were. Those who have come out of an active gay lifestyle need to understand how to see themselves. What defined us then no longer defines us now.

5. 1 Timothy 1:8-10
Here Paul writes:
The law is not laid down for the just but for the lawless and disobedient, for the ungodly and sinners, for the unholy and profane, for those who strike their fathers and mothers, for murderers, for the sexually immoral, men who practise homosexuality, enslavers, liars, perjurers, and whatever else is contrary to sound doctrine. (1 Timothy. 1:9-10)
He again uses the term arsenokoitai (translated by the ESV as “men who practice homosexuality” as a catch-all term for all forms of homosexual conduct. Also in common with 1 Corinthians, same-sex sex is mentioned among other wide-ranging sins, non-sexual as well as sexual.
These forms of behaviour characterize those who are not “just” and for whom the law was given, in order to bring conviction of sin and the need for mercy. All these practices contradict “sound doctrine” and the gospel. They do not conform to the life Christians are now to lead. They go against the grain of the new identity we have in Christ.
Conclusion
Attempts to read these texts as anything other than prohibitions of homosexual behaviour do not ultimately work. The plain reading of each passage is the right one. It is homosexual practice in general, rather than only certain expressions of it, which are forbidden in Scripture. To attempt to demonstrate otherwise is to violate the passages themselves. Yet these very same texts list homosexuality alongside many other forms of behaviour that are also against God’s will. The very passages that show us that homosexual activity is a sin, make it very clear that it is not a unique sin. It is one example of what is wrong with all of us.

can someone please summarize this long talk for me...

ourkobo:
can someone please summarize this long talk for me...

homosexuality is a sin.

ourkobo:
can someone please summarize this long talk for me...

op presents evidences from the Bible that shows homosexuality is a sin both in the old and new testament because some see homosexuality as just a sexual orientation. Homosexuallity was one of the sins that made God swiftly destroyed the city of Sodom and gomorrah.
read it up you ll get the message.

once more men are staging a global revolution against God!

are you an homosexual, Jesus can still save you, turn to him in prayer, tell him to save your soul

solite3:
once more men are staging a global revolution against God!

are you an homosexual, Jesus can still save you, turn to him in prayer, tell him to save your soul

Homosexuality is against the will of God. Not that they can stop anyway.

By strength shall no man prevail over sin, whether it is homosexuality or any other sin. It is the work of Christ to save homosexuals, if they will sincerely turn to him with all their heart.

bloodofthelamb:


Homosexuality is against the will of God. Not that they can stop anyway.

By strength shall no man prevail over sin, whether it is homosexuality or any other sin. It is the work of Christ to save homosexuals, if they will sincerely turn to him with all their heart.

yes brother,

solite3:
op presents evidences from the Bible that shows homosexuality is a sin both in the old and new testament because some see homosexuality as just a sexual orientation.
Homosexuallity was one of the sins that made God swiftly destroyed the city of Sodom and gomorrah
Read it up you'll get the message.

Sodom and Gomorrah was already designated for destruction, before the city's men lusted after gender same sex as their own.

Sodom and Gomorrah was designated for destruction, not because the city's men lusted after gender same sex as their own.
Read it up you'll see.

MuttleyLaff:
Sodom and Gomorrah was already designated for destruction, before the city's men lusted after gender same sex as their own.

Sodom and Gomorrah was designated for destruction, not because the city's men lusted after gender same sex as their own.
Read it up you'll see.

homosexuality was one of the wickedness in the land of Sodom, it didn't start that day.

Genesis 13:13 But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly.

solite3:
homosexuality was one of the wickedness in the land of Sodom, it didn't start that day.

Genesis 13:13 But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly.

How you managed to embroil "homosexuality" into the word wicked used in Genesis 13:13
and then after, single "homosexuality" out, to be wickedness, escapes me.

Fill your boots!
1/ What is the wicked in "homosexuality" that made Sodom and Gomorrah to be chosen for destruction?
2/ Where is the wickedness in "homosexuality"?
3/ How does,
Genesis 13:13's "But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly" equate to say and/or mean "homosexuality"?

What sayet Thou?

BetterPoison:
What does the Bible say about Christ?? Why didn't he have a woman. Maybe he had a thing for men

The bible says Jesus came to die.
Not to have a woman, not to have a thing for men.

God gave Jesus to die for our sins, period.

Jesus, confirmed this, at the ninth hour, on the cross at Golgotha, the skull-shaped hill in Jerusalem, when He said "Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani"

"Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani" when correctly translated, means:
"My God, My God, this is why You kept me"
or "My God, My God, this is My destiny" (i.e. I was born to do this)
or "My God, My God, this is what You permitted"
or "My God, My God, this is what You allowed"

MuttleyLaff:
How you managed to embroil "homosexuality" into the word wicked used in Genesis 13:13
and then after, single "homosexuality" out, to be wickedness, escapes me.

Fill your boots!
1/ What is the wicked in "homosexuality" that made Sodom and Gomorrah to be chosen for destruction?
2/ Where is the wickedness in "homosexuality"?
3/ How does,
Genesis 13:13's "But the men of Sodom were wicked and sinners before the LORD exceedingly" equate to say and/or mean "homosexuality"?

your questions sounds like "how does serving idols equals hating God?"

this is why homosexuality is wickedness

homosexuality is a perversion of God's order.

it is one of the manifestation of man's rebellious state, I didn't say homosexuality is the only wicked act, there are other abomination, such as bestiality.

Romans 1:27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

And God haters are promoting this abomination and supporting it.

read Romans 1:27 slowly,
all sin is evil but some sins attract swift judgement from God. eg homosexuality.

solite3:
your questions sounds like "how does serving idols equals hating God?"

this is why homosexuality is wickedness

homosexuality is a perversion of God's order.

There are a lot of other things that are a perversion of God's order
For example, man eating the fruit off the ToKoG&E is a perversion of God's order.
Why have to put this sexual orientation thing on your head like as if you're a shrimp

You and your double standard,
tell why and how "homosexuality" is wickedness, becomes inexplainably for you to do

solite3:
it is one of the manifestation of man's rebellious state,
I didn't say homosexuality is the only wicked act, there are other abomination, such as bestiality.

You're dropping words, like "perversion" and/or "abomination" to sound big.

You dropped and used the word "abomination", like you're well informed to know the context of how the word originally was used

If you really know your bible well and are sure of what you're writing about, answer these two simple and easy questions,
dont duck them, like I am getting used to you doing.
1/ To whom does the bible say, bestiality is an abomination to?
2/ On to Whom does the bible say, the acts in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 are an abomination to?

solite3:
Romans 1:27
And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another;
men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.

We live in an abnormal world
It is abnormal for a homosexual to be a heterosexual and vice versa
If you arent gay, it is abnormal for you to act gay,
for one that's gay, it is natural for such act and/or to be gay

C'mon, its not that hard to get the gist of Romans 1:27 now
Whether you're homosexual or heterosexual, if you're promiscuous, you'll get the clap at least, if not AIDS
Commit indecent acts and be prepared to receive the due penalty of the error and foolish deed.
That's a guarantee.

solite3:
And God haters are promoting this abomination and supporting it.
read Romans 1:27 slowly,
all sin is evil but some sins attract swift judgement from God. eg homosexuality.

You havent a clue what the abomination is all about
You should borrow a leaf from your advice.
You should calm down, farabale, slowly but loudly read not Romans 1:27 but more, as read Romans 1:18-32

For your information, Romans 1:18-32, especially verses 24, 26 & 27 is a rehash of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13
where at, Paul, is echoing what happened around when Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 were given

The same abominable practice, that was happening in Canaan, in the Leviticus 18:22 & Leviticus 20:13 times, were still around and happening in and around Rome.

Incidentally, the Leviticus 18:22 & Leviticus 20:13 times, Romans 1:24, 26 & 27 times practice, is still very much around, and as far as I know, happening in, at least present day, India

As a matter of fact, again, this abomination, this abominable act that happened in Romans 1:24-27 still happens in India

MuttleyLaff:
There are a lot of other things that are a perversion of God's order
For example, man eating the fruit off the ToKoG&E is a perversion of God's order.

so you agree that homosexuality is a perversion but again you contradict your own words, this thread is not about other perversions but homosexualism.
what is ToKoG&E?

have to put this sexual orientation thing on your head like as if you're a shrimp

Mr shrimp why does it bother you so much? you greatest worry should be God not me?

You and your double standard,
tell why and how "homosexuality" is wickedness, becomes inexplainably for you to do

double what? you call God's standard double standard? men you in a very big mess.
I ve told you before that homo is a disruption of God's order even nature abhors it what wickedness can be greater than this? mr?

You're dropping words, like "perversion" and/or "abomination" to sound big.

You dropped and used the word "abomination", like you're well informed to know the context of how the word originally was used

Mr ignorance, an abomination is something distasteful and unnatural. now Mr ignorance is homo not distasteful? is it not unnatural? sex is not a thing of mere pleasure, it suppose to lead to procreation, now is that abomination (yea it hurts) called homosexualism not a rebuff of God's intention?

If you really know your bible well and are sure of what you're writing about, answer these two simple and easy questions,
dont duck them, like I am getting used to you doing.
1/ To whom does the bible say, bestiality is an abomination to?
2/ On to Whom does the bible say, the acts in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 are an abomination to?

do you know what is called sin? not just in the old testament even in the new testament
homo is called a vile affection, meaning something offensive,
Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

We live in an abnormal world

what made the world abnormal? what happens when men decides to shade and defend such abnormalities? the wrath of God is coming upon this godless rotten world.

[s]It is abnormal for a homosexual to be a heterosexual and vice versa
If you arent gay, it is abnormal for you to act gay,
for one that's gay, it is natural for such act and/or to be gay[/s]

comparing dung with cake, I am talking of God's standard you are talking of human standards.

C'mon, its not that hard to get the gist of Romans 1:27 now
Whether you're homosexual or heterosexual, if you're promiscuous, you'll get the clap at least, if not AIDS
Commit indecent acts and be prepared to receive the due penalty of the error and foolish deed.

trying to twist the truth, Roman 1:27 said men did that Which is unnatural.
the sexual feeling between men and women is natural, so Paul was not talking of promiscuity but homosexualism a dumb twisting anyway.

That's a guarantee.

You havent a clue what the abomination is all about
You should borrow a leaf from your advice.
You should calm down, farabale, slowly but loudly read not Romans 1:27 but more, as read Romans 1:18-32

For your information, Romans 1:18-32, especially verses 24, 26 & 27 is a rehash of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13
where at, Paul, is echoing what happened around when Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 were given

The same abominable practice, that was happening in Canaan, in the Leviticus 18:22 & Leviticus 20:13 times, were still around and happening in and around Rome.

Incidentally, the Leviticus 18:22 & Leviticus 20:13 times, Romans 1:24, 26 & 27 times practice, is still very much around, and as far as I know, happening in, at least present day, India

As a matter of fact, again, this abomination, this abominable act that happened in Romans 1:24-27 still happens in India

Lord have mercy! homosexualism and other abomination was a normal practiced in Sodom and Gomorrah why did God destroyed them if it was normal? mr?


Ephesians 2:2 Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Revelation 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

homosexualism, bestiality, lesbianism and all manner of sin has one reward eternity in the lake of fire, Jesus Christ is the only solution to your sin problem,

solite3:
so you agree that homosexuality is a perversion but again you contradict your own words, this thread is not about other perversions but homosexualism.

Dont twist and misrepresent what I wrote.

I replied that:
"There are a lot of other things that are a perversion of God's order
For example, man eating the fruit off the ToKoG&E is a perversion of God's order."

and that was, in response to you saying:
"homosexuality is a perversion of God's order"

solite3:
what is ToKoG&E?

ToKoG&E means Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil
Oh c'mon now, "man eating the fruit off the..." is a dead giveaway to what ToKoG&E is.

solite3:
Mr shrimp why does it bother you so much?
you greatest worry should be God not me?

You can call and/or address me "Mr" whatever suits your fancy
Justice, the absence of it, is why it bothers me so much
The prejudice against people in same sex relationships, that is especially in a way, very unfair, is why I am bothered

solite3:
double what?
you call God's standard double standard?
men you in a very big mess.

I call you out
I call you out, the one behaving as if, he doesnt fart and when he farts, his fart doesnt smell

I know you love your catfish delicacies, know you love your lobsters, know you love your shrimps, know you love your crab soups,
know you love your snake soups, know you love your bushmeats
Should I throw in rabbit, also for you?
Now tell, solite3, are any of the lot above, abomination enough for you, and so, not to eat?
What an irony. Can you see now, the double standard?

What of times when your partner puts on your chequered shirt or boxer shorts?
Oops, look at what Deuteronomy 22:5 says about that. Tut-tut-tut.

solite3, the point here, is that we often throw words about, without understanding them, just like you've just displayed
and unwittingly use them in our typical relaxed unconcerned and prejudiced attitude, all to enforce all kinds of discrimination.

solite3:
I've told you before that homo is a disruption of God's order even nature abhors it what wickedness can be greater than this? mr?

I am again giving you a chance to tell.
Here comes another opportunity. Why not tell. Please dont squander it

1/ What is wickedness in a consenting adults, having a faithful, committed, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship?
2/ When, where and how does even nature abhor it?

solite3:
Mr ignorance, an abomination is something distasteful and unnatural.
now Mr ignorance is homo not distasteful?
is it not unnatural? sex is not a thing of mere pleasure, it suppose to lead to procreation,
now is that abomination (yea it hurts) called homosexualism not a rebuff of God's intention?

After we've pushed out the facts and truth, then you can air your opinions and argue your ignorances

I am very grateful to you for defining abomination.
It shows you understand what the word abomination means in toto

This means, if you really know your bible well and are sure of what you've been writing about,
then to answer these two simple and easy questions, should be a walkover as easy as reciting A, B, C piece of cake matter

Please dont duck the questions, like as if you want to have the reputation for dodging questions.
1/ To whom, does the bible say, bestiality is an abomination to?
2/ On to Whom, does the bible say, the acts in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 are an abomination to?
3/ What does the original word (i.e. toevah) translated as "abomination" means
and in what context is it, used with Leviticus 18:22 & Leviticus 20:13?

solite3:
do you know what is called sin?
not just in the old testament even in the new testament
homo is called a vile affection, meaning something offensive

solite3? solite3? solite3?
How many times did I call your name?
OK, now solite3, explain how and why consenting adults, having a faithful, committed, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship is vile affection and offensive

solite3:
Romans 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections:
for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:

You would accept and agree that there was no such thing as woman lying with woman in Old Testament Biblical records

Fast forward to New Testament Biblical records, and boom! What have we?
Women, now too, are doing the female equivalent of, man lying down with man.
Women have joined gang. Left ordinarily being a shrine prostitute, for just men, but now offering the similar service for female patrons too

Now if you've all along thought this was about sheer consenting adults, having a faithful, committed, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, then you have been misinformed

What happened?
Well, as I earlier said, which you arrogantly dismissed as if flimsy
is that for your information, Romans 1:18-32, especially verses 24, 26 & 27 is a rehash of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 with a twist

Paul, with Romans 1:18-32, especially verses 24, 26 & 27, is echoing what happened around when Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 were given.
He then added the twist (i.e. Romans 1:26b: ... for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature)
which is, the women too, have joined to be participants in the ongoing "detestable customs practised"

solite3:
what made the world abnormal?
what happens when men decides to shade and defend such abnormalities?
the wrath of God is coming upon this godless rotten world.

Calm down brother. Calm down.
Chill with all this your huffing and puffing
What you going to do, if you're living in Ireland, where its prime minister, is in a faithful, committed, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship?

solite3:
comparing dung with cake, I am talking of God's standard you are talking of human standards.

God loves consenting adults, having a faithful, committed, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship just the way they are.

solite3:
trying to twist the truth, Roman 1:27 said men did that Which is unnatural.
the sexual feeling between men and women is natural,
so Paul was not talking of promiscuity but homosexualism a dumb twisting anyway.

The most commonly way, people get or transmit venereal diseases like gonorrhoea, HIV etcetera is through indulging in promiscuous sexual behaviors.

The above sums up Romans 1:27b. Thats it in a nutshell, no need to twist, nothing to do with twisting brother

solite3:
Lord have mercy!
homosexualism and other abomination was a normal practiced in Sodom and Gomorrah why did God destroyed them if it was normal? mr?

Tell, was Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed because they had consenting adults, in faithful, committed, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationships?
Or was it because of something else other than that? Like a custom practised, God finds disturbing?

solite3:
Ephesians 2:2
Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world,
according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

Revelation 21:8
But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars,
shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.

homosexualism, bestiality, lesbianism and all manner of sin has one reward eternity in the lake of fire, Jesus Christ is the only solution to your sin problem

You do still lie, dont you?
Cast your mind back, try and remember. When was the last time you lied solite3?
Will you possibly lie today, if not, maybe tomorrow?

solite3:
op presents evidences from the Bible that shows homosexuality is a sin both in the old and new testament because some see homosexuality as just a sexual orientation. Homosexuallity was one of the sins that made God swiftly destroyed the city of Sodom and gomorrah.
read it up you ll get the message.

..

thanks bro

MuttleyLaff:
Dont twist and misrepresent what I wrote.

I replied that:
"There are a lot of other things that are a perversion of God's order
For example, man eating the fruit off the ToKoG&E is a perversion of God's order."

how does it relate to the abomination called homosexualism!

and that was, in response to you saying:
"homosexuality is a perversion of God's order"

Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil
Oh c'mon now, "man eating the fruit off the..." is a dead giveaway to what ToKoG&E is.

what happened when the eat ToKoG&E? God bless them right?

You can call and/or address me "Mr" whatever suits your fancy
Justice, the absence of it, is why it bothers me so much
The prejudice against people in same sex relationships, that is especially in a way, very unfair, is why I am bothered

where is the prejudice? if saying the truth means prejudice let it be, homosexualism is a sin!

I call you out
I call you out, the one behaving as if, he doesnt fart and when he farts, his fart doesnt smell

I know you love your catfish delicacies, know you love your lobsters, know you love your shrimps, know you love your crab soups,
know you love your snake soups, know you love your bushmeats
Should I throw in rabbit, also for you?
Now tell, solite3, are any of the lot above, abomination enough for you, and so, not to eat?
What an irony. Can you see now, the double standard?

hahaha I love rabbits and shrimps! None of those animals is against nature!

of times when your partner put on your chequered shirt or boxer shorts?
Oops, look at what Deuteronomy 22:5 says about that. Tut-tut-tut.

The point here, is that we often throw words about, without understanding them, just like you've just displayed
and unwittingly use them in our typical relaxed unconcerned and prejudiced attitude, all to enforce all kinds of discrimination.[\quote] it's clear you don't understand the bible!

[quote]I am again giving you a chance to tell.
Here comes another opportunity. Why not tell. Please dont squander it

1/ What is wickedness in a consenting adults, having a faithful, committed, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship?
2/ When, where and how does even nature abhor it?

After we've pushed out the facts and truth, then you can air your opinions and argue your ignorances

go back to the op and read slowly

I am very grateful to you for defining abomination. It shows you understand what the word abomination means in toto
This means, if you really know your bible well and are sure of what you've been writing about,
then to answer these two simple and easy questions, should be a walkover as easy as reciting A, B, C piece of cake matter
Please dont duck the questions, like as if you want to have the reputation for dodging questions.
1/ To whom, does the bible say, bestiality is an abomination to?
2/ On to Whom, does the bible say, the acts in Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 are an abomination to?
3/ What does the original word (i.e. toevah) translated as "abomination" means
and in what context is it, used with Leviticus 18:22 & Leviticus 20:13?

do you know what sin is? why can't you answer this simple question?

solite3? solite3? solite3?
How many times did I call your name?
OK, now solite3, explain how and why consenting adults, having a faithful, committed, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship is vile affection and offensive

ask Paul the apostle.

You would accept and agree that there was no such thing as woman lying with woman in Old Testament Biblical records

Fast forward to New Testament Biblical records, and boom! What have we?
Women, now too, are doing the female equivalent of, man lying down with man.
Women have joined gang. Left ordinarily being a shrine prostitute, for just men, but now offering the similar service for female patrons too

there were no people doing such in the old testament, when last dud you read the bible?
are you saying men where meant to have sex with men?
so going by your logic, since those women were ordinarily into temple prostitution it was not wrong?

Now if you've all along thought this was about sheer consenting adults, having a faithful, committed, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship, then you have been misinformed

so if two individuals agree to commit sin then it is allowed right?

you read the bible upside down.
faithful,comitted, honest, loving, lasting that's long lasting same sex sin. it does change the truth.

What happened?
Well, as I earlier said, which you arrogantly dismissed as if flimsy
is that for your information, Romans 1:18-32, especially verses 24, 26 & 27 is a rehash of Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 with a twist

Paul, with Romans 1:18-32, especially verses 24, 26 & 27, is echoing what happened around when Leviticus 18:22 and Leviticus 20:13 were given.
He then added the twist (i.e. Romans 1:26b: ... for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature)
which is, the women too, have joined to be participants in the ongoing "detestable customs practised"

Calm down brother. Calm down.
Chill with all this your huffing and puffing
What you going to do, if you're living in Ireland, where its prime minister, is in a faithful, committed, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship?

God loves consenting adults, having a faithful, committed, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationship just the way they are.

sorry! God doesn't love sinful humans the way they are! God loves homosexuals equally as other people but doesn't love them the way they are,
Jesus said except a man is born again he can't see the kingdom of God! that is the truth.

The most commonly way, people get or transmit venereal diseases like gonorrhoea, HIV etcetera is through indulging in promiscuous sexual behaviors

Tell, was Sodom and Gomorrah destroyed because they had consenting adults, in faithful, committed, honest, loving, lasting that's life-long and loyal same-sex relationships?
Or was it because of something else other than that? Like a custom practised, God finds disturbing?

You do still lie, dont you?
Cast your mind back, try and remember. When was the last time you lied solite3?
Will you possibly lie today, if not, maybe tomorrow?

you call what God hate as normal and acceptable, it speaks volumes of you,
brother Jesus loves you and he can save you! will you let him?

MuttleyLaff:
The bible says Jesus came to die.
Not to have a woman, not to have a thing for men.

God gave Jesus to die for our sins, period.

Jesus, confirmed this, at the ninth hour, on the cross at Golgotha, the skull-shaped hill in Jerusalem, when He said "Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani"

"Eli Eli Lama Sabachthani" when correctly translated, means:
"My God, My God, this is why You kept me"
or "My God, My God, this is My destiny" (i.e. I was born to do this)
or "My God, My God, this is what You permitted"
or "My God, My God, this is what You allowed"

This is one of the reasons why I believe Jesus Christ is the true word of God. He is the light and no darkness can overcome him. The scripture proved that 100 percent by having reference to all loophole you may identify in it. Imagine criticizing Quoran or Mohamed like what the guy did, no single explanation will be available to backup thier argument in thier holy book. Just pure defensive reprieve of the critic is what the Muslim will resort to.

Truly, Jesus is Lord.

Homosexuality still remains an abomination