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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by daveP(m): 8:22pm On Sep 04, 2018 |
Joebie:Ive not kick started it. cosvof exams ongoing. But I'll need some primary data. Leagues and clubs Nigerians are. It's not gonna be difficult setting up. it's my field. But for time now.... asides that, it's very much on my mind. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:32pm On Sep 04, 2018 |
isan:even Iwobi.. I think those guys thinks isn't time yet for national duty... Or maybe the synthetic pitch.. But either way fvck em all. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:45pm On Sep 04, 2018 |
krattoss: Please don't start. If we can't beat Seychelles with what is on ground then we should ban football in Nigeria. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 8:49pm On Sep 04, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli:one thing I ve learned in life is "nothing is guaranteed . If them no win, na their matter.. The only responsibility I have to them is to watch them if am less busy.. I think these guys re used to failure.. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 8:56pm On Sep 04, 2018 |
krattoss: Leave that thing they might even spell Seychelles. The players in camp are hungry to represent Nigeria and the focus should be fully on them. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 9:00pm On Sep 04, 2018 |
krattoss: I don't know why I find this funny ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 9:03pm On Sep 04, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: Let me point out that the U17 and the academies are to identify talents, nurturing and development takes place afterwards, when they start signing professional contracts with their respective clubs . But note that not all the talents, for various reasons, will be opportuned to feature at the U17. So throwing the camp open to all at U20, rather than sticking to the previous U17, will affford us the opportunity of identifying more potentials but this time at the U20 level. Yes development of Home league is a factor but note also that Argentina, Mexico and Brazil don't have leagues as developed as what we have in Europe but they still produce about the best players at U20. The fact still remains that we do not take the U20 as serious as we are supposed to. We treat it with kids gloves. We think it is a competition for amateurs and academy players while it is a competition for young professionals. Our problems have been more from players selection. Paul Aigbogun's team for instance could potentially achieve great things if he can really harness the best available players at that age level. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:12pm On Sep 04, 2018 |
krattoss: Iwobi missed the weekend match due to illness. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by AIG07: 9:27pm On Sep 04, 2018 |
The fear of Artificial Turf is the beginning of Wisdom. Remembering those days when Mikel will be the first to pull out anytime we are playing on artificial pitch. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:36pm On Sep 04, 2018 |
After the final whistle in the match between Leicester and Liverpool, who else saw Sadio Mane telling Aissa Mendy it was about time he came back home to play for Senegal? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by cc12(m): 10:42pm On Sep 04, 2018 |
ChrisKels:I saw it too, did you just watch the match's highlight on SuperSports? |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 10:47pm On Sep 04, 2018 |
ChrisKels: Kondogbia too has agreed to play for Central African Republic. Them African prodigal sons... ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by DrLikita12(f): 11:05pm On Sep 04, 2018 |
According to Pooja Media Salisu has been suspended for one year from all footballing activities. 2 Likes
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 11:26pm On Sep 04, 2018 |
DrLikita12: It is an fair ban. You do not want to deprive the man of a source of income for too long. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 11:41pm On Sep 04, 2018 |
tbaba1234:and by the time he is back, the job will be given to someone else, so, no more national team duties for him |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:43pm On Sep 04, 2018 |
Rohr: Super Eagles friendly against Saudi Arabia cancelled By admin - September 4, 2018, 6:07 am Gernot Rohr has announced that a proposed friendly against World Cup qualifiers Saudi Arabia has been called off because of logistic reasons. The Super Eagles were scheduled to take on the Saudis after the AFCON qualifier in Seychelles, but the coach has now said this was no longer possible because the players will be tired from a lot of travelling before the game. “Most of them are coming from Europe and will fly at least 10 hours to Seychelles and as such the second match against Saudi Arabia will not be played,” a backroom staff of the Eagles reported relaying Rohr’s message. Both the Eagles and Saudi Arabia crashed out in the first round of Russia 2018. The Eagles will thus not make the most of this FIFA friendly window, while the next one next month will be taken up by back-to-back AFCON qualifiers against Libya. http://scorenigeria.com.ng/2018/09/04/rohr-super-eagles-friendly-against-saudi-arabia-cancelled/ 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:45pm On Sep 04, 2018 |
tbaba1234: They should have just sacked him, I don't know where the ban talk even came from. England didn't ban Sam Allardyce after he got caught on tape collecting money. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by safarigirl(f): 11:50pm On Sep 04, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli:a ban is worse than sacking him. If they sack him, he can always find some other club or something to get an employment, but a ban ensures that he cannot work at all in Nigerian football. And it could also work as outright sack because Rohr will still need an assistant in his absence |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:10am On Sep 05, 2018 |
safarigirl:I don't have a problem with him coaching anywhere outside our national teams. Also another problem is that a good lawyer goes to CAS and easily overturns the ban. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 12:20am On Sep 05, 2018 |
I honestly can't wait to see Emanuel Amunike on the sideline with Tanzania |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 12:28am On Sep 05, 2018 |
cc12:Yea muan!!! 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Earthquake1: 4:15am On Sep 05, 2018 |
Chrismario: They have realized they can't get into their national teams of interest Nothing like prodigal son 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:37am On Sep 05, 2018 |
Icon4s: It is easier for Aigbogun's to put together a fresh team because he has not taking months to over a year putting together and training a team for the tournament. That does not mean his team will be more effective or better than a team promoted from the U17. We do not treat the tournament with kids gloves but lack the system to do so. Keep in mind how difficult it was for Manu Garba to secure the services of the likes of Success, Nacho, Ndidi and Alampasu for the U20 World Cup, with the players getting released late, some players few days to the competition. Remember the terrible choices we made like camping our players in the wrong environment. If we manage the progress of our U17 players and then fuse in top quality players into it, we can progress but it comes with a price of lacking coherency. Aigbogun's team for instance might lack coherency due to them not spending time together understanding them selves. Selecting players from different sources does not guarantee we are doing a better project 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:47am On Sep 05, 2018 |
Icon4s: By the way, the Argentine, Brazilian, Mexico, Chile etc may not have leagues as developed as the Europeans but what they have is a league that generates and produces young stars in high magnitude. A good example is the Brazilians. We can not compare the EPL or Spanish League to develop the kind of youngsters as the Brazilian League. From time, the top players from Brazil like Ronaldo, Denilson, Robinho, Kaka, were top players in their 16-18 years of age. The likes of Pato, Jo, Willian, Anderson, Oscar, Coutinho, Neymar Ganso etc were popular in their home leagues at 16-17 years. Today, we are talking of Vinicius, Rodrygo, Allan who are popular in their home league from when they were 16-17 years. Aguero at 16 was popular in his home League. Same with Tevez. If you check the likes of top stars from those countries, you will see their leagues play a big part in developing these talents. We can not wear gloves in a hard way and just track and produce stars. If you say take the U20 more seriously, I agree but running down the U17 as the reason of our failure is what I totally disagree with. The other countries are well ahead of us. 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 5:50am On Sep 05, 2018 |
gamaliel9: We must not shift focus but broaden our horizon to keep developing what we have. We have a brilliant structure of selecting and nurturing young starlets in the U17 system. We need to broaden it, make it more competitive as they grow and maintain the momentum. What happens is when we win, we feel the work is done while other nations, especially the top ones keeping developing theirs. We are miles behind. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:41am On Sep 05, 2018 |
Icon4s: One of the key thing gs about Brazilian football in comparison to England. I am speaking from my experience not media talk. Is the large amount of teenagers given opportunity to play first team football. There is a mentality yo give young players opportunity quickly, it may be because they can sell potential for stupendous amounts of profit. For instance Gabriel J. before he came to Manchester city had two full seasons of senior football under his belt. Talent is only potential it needs development so if talent is not nurtured, developed, and made into ability. It simply remains talent after it stagnates and dies. So for instance no matter what your talent if it's not being developed its stagnating and therefore diminishing. Brazilian football doesn't allow talent to stagnate. I had a talk with the former Assistant Manager at Sao Paulo about this. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:51am On Sep 05, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: Agreed in principle. But the pertinent issue is what is the substance and quality of our football development. When you play with top players and in top teams you get better results. More exposure gives you better quality. Talent has to be driven, developed and challenged to get it to the next level. For instance in most top English football academies players train from age 7/8 regularly 4 times a week. They go on football tournament across Europe and even to the USA. But it's not just the regularity of training but the intensity and quality. Then those who show promise are given opportunity to get into the first team even as teenager. However that doesn't always translate to succes particularly in the EPL. Clubs would rather buy success than take a risk to nurture and develop it which requires patience. Hence the use of the loan system by the bigger clubs. Too much money £££ in the EPL and a lack of patience. 1 Like |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 7:58am On Sep 05, 2018 |
Icon4s: I would say the KEY COMPONENT is almost all are playing regularly first team football. That first team football may not be in the EPL but at least in the Championship and or league 1. But they are regulars look at Dominic Iorfa by 21 he had already played near 100 games in the Championship. And there are quite a few like him. When you think Ademola, Tega Abrahams, Tega Onomah, Ryan Ssegnon, Dominic Calvert Lewin, Davies, etc are all playing regularly in the EPL and or Championship. That experience of first team football and what it teaches you can not be replicated by playing youth football. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:03am On Sep 05, 2018 |
gamaliel9: Where will they develop ![]() ![]() |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 8:14am On Sep 05, 2018 |
BascoVanVeli: Big Sam didn't take one kobo, not one penny exchanged hands. But he was talking about how you can circumvent the rules and sharp practices to gain advantage. He did not say he took any bribes but in the conversation it was implied. In England it's not enough to be honest you must be clearly seen to be honest. Sam Allardyce put his integrity to question and compromised his position. He had to go as a result. Salisu was caught RED HANDED he clearly took the money But is anybody SHOCKED nothing whatsoever has happened to Salisu, he should be facing a life time ban and criminal prosecution. But you know, " This is Nigeria " 2 Likes |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 8:48am On Sep 05, 2018 |
TheGoodJoe: I am not running the U17 down but instead emphasizing the need to take the U20 more seriously. U17 players should not be promoted automatically to the U20 but must be made to go through the same screening exercise as the other U20 candidates. Let there be a level playing field. We should not make that mistake again of promoting the U17 players with their coach to the U20. He will be more loyal to his former U17 players and leave some other players who would have added more value. I always make reference to how Etebor and Ajayi were snubbed by Manu and his crew for the 2015 U20. The duo would have been great additions to the squad. I am for talent discovery, I am for talent nurturing, I am for players development but what I am against is selective development. You commented on our home league being a major factor for players development from U17 to U20 yes, true. But you were here when peeps on this forum were blasting Aigbogun for selecting NPFL players into his team. Where do we start picking the Nigerian based U20 players from? The academies? Komekn just made a vital point about how Brazil exposes their young players early enough to the Brazilian leagues giving them the necessary exposure. Which also a common sight in Nigeria football where NPFL Teams have a couple of 16, 17 years olds on their roasters. Which I think is equally commendable. In the last few years Nigeria has never lacked in the preponderance of players 18-20years of age. The problem is just that we have not been carrying out proper selections. |
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Clementoke(m): 8:52am On Sep 05, 2018 |
komekn: A lifetime ban would have been too much Considering the case, I think a sack and the one year ban would have been fair IMO |
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