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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:44pm On Sep 12, 2018
Unlimited22:

The question is not whether that boy followed mandzukic at Juve. The question is whether I ever watched Batistuta at Roma. And yes, I did.
I'm not that boy.
And now, is Klose better than Batistuta?
Did Hazard have a better world cup in 2018 than Neymar?

How many games will you have to have watched to be able to reach a conclusion that Batistuta is better than Klose?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 6:45pm On Sep 12, 2018
raumdeuter:


Its not really unheard of. to finish 6yrs University before 21. I served with a girl who turned 19 during NYSC
Agreed. There's a guy I follow on YouTube, a programming prodigy, who dreams in code and is currently a junior in college.
The dude is 14.
Name's Santiago, so yes. Not unheard of.
The questions are, is Klose better than Batistuta? Did Hazard have a better world cup than Neymar in Russia?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 6:45pm On Sep 12, 2018
Unlimited22:

The question is not whether that boy followed mandzukic at Juve. The question is whether I ever watched Batistuta at Roma. And yes, I did.
I'm not that boy.
And now, is Klose better than Batistuta?
Did Hazard have a better world cup in 2018 than Neymar?
Stop wasting ur time on dat Hazard ish......xcept u wnt him 2 fall sick,........on d hand if na true say u dey 20,,u need call me sir b4 u quote me.. grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 6:46pm On Sep 12, 2018
raumdeuter:


How many games will you have to have watched to be able to reach a conclusion that Batistuta is better than Klose?
If you notice, I never answered the question myself.
I just asked you.
Is Klose better than Batistuta?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 6:52pm On Sep 12, 2018
raumdeuter:


Shikena

Maganna yakari

Thank you very much for confirming this like evry sane person, Neymar is better than Hazard. Just like Ronaldo is better than Mane, It doesnt matter if Mane outscored him in the CL final, Ronaldos body of work over the years makes him way better than Mane like Neymar is better than Hazard
I have been following your argument from past 40 pages I can say you make some very valid point in some comment but the part that I find difficult to wrap my head around is; I know Neymar is better than hazard but how is KDB also better than hazard? considering their career stats ( career goals, assists, cups, accolades, big games performance etc).
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 6:53pm On Sep 12, 2018
OVA200:
I have been following your argument from past 40 pages I can say you make some very valid point in some comment but the part that I find difficult to wrap my head around is; I know Neymar is better than hazard but how is KDB also better than hazard? considering their career stats ( career goals, assists, cups, accolades, big games performance etc).
He does make lots of sense but his dislike for Hazard is really on a personal level.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 6:56pm On Sep 12, 2018
Unlimited22:

If you notice, I never answered the question myself.
I just asked you.
Is Klose better than Batistuta?

The thing is you didn't watch either of them to develop a full understanding of which is better.

The only thing you know of Batistuta you read online
The only game of himyou saw was via YouTube. I'm certain you didn't see a full 90mins live game of Batigol not at Roma and definitely not at Fioretina

Many people here know that you are lying why because we've all been 5yrs old or have nephew who are 4yrs old
Anyone get home and ask your 5yr old nephew who is Higuain and see how much they'll tellyou
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 6:57pm On Sep 12, 2018
OVA200:
I have been following your argument from past 40 pages I can say you make some very valid point in some comment but the part that I find difficult to wrap my head around is; I know Neymar is better than hazard but how is KDB also better than hazard? considering their career stats ( career goals, assists, cups, accolades, big games performance etc).
.
ofcourse we all knw he z good n knows football but his hatred 4 hazard mks him poor in using his own criteria. ..he tends 2 twist a given 4mula he uses 2 discredit hazard 4 anoda player
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 6:58pm On Sep 12, 2018
raumdeuter:


The thing is you didn't watch either of them to develop a full understanding of which is better.

The only thing you know of Batistuta you read online
That is why I'm asking you, as an Elder, who is better?
I saw videos and replayed games cheesy wink
I saw Klose at least. And I took notice at least from Germany 2006.
I even remember wondering why he was prolific at national level but not so prolific at club level.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Skimpledawg(m): 7:00pm On Sep 12, 2018
Segedinho:
Stop wasting ur time on dat Hazard ish......xcept u wnt him 2 fall sick,........on d hand if na true say u dey 20,,u need call me sir b4 u quote me.. grin grin grin
Hahhahahaha

Maga grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 7:01pm On Sep 12, 2018
raumdeuter:


The thing is you didn't watch either of them to develop a full understanding of which is better.

The only thing you know of Batistuta you read online
The only game of himyou saw was via YouTube. I'm certain you didn't see a full 90mins live game of Batigol not at Roma and definitely not at Fioretina

Many people here know that you are lying why because we've all been 5yrs old or have nephew who are 4yrs old
Anyone get home and ask your 5yr old nephew who is Higuain and see how much they'll tellyou
As I'm sure you didn't know me when I was 4 or 5,i won't press that point.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 7:02pm On Sep 12, 2018
Segedinho:
.
ofcourse we all knw he z good n knows football but his hatred 4 hazard mks him poor in using his own criteria. ..he tends 2 twist a given 4mula he uses 2 discredit hazard 4 anoda player
Sorry sir, Segedinho grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Victornezzar: 7:04pm On Sep 12, 2018
Skimpledawg:

You dey mis yarn sometimes o..

What's with the bolded?
Sorry boss

My apologies
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:05pm On Sep 12, 2018
OVA200:
I have been following your argument from past 40 pages I can say you make some very valid point in some comment but the part that I find difficult to wrap my head around is; I know Neymar is better than hazard but how is KDB also better than hazard? considering their career stats ( career goals, assists, cups, accolades, big games performance etc).

How is KDB better than Hazard you say? Since they both got to the same league, the same competition same opponents

KdB got to Man City in 2015. Same league as Hazard in those 3 yrs

KDB 35 goals 57 assists = 92 direct contribution to goals and he has played a large part as a Central midfielder
Hazard 42 goals 30 assists = 72 direct contribution to goals and has played as an attacker
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 7:05pm On Sep 12, 2018
Unlimited22:

Sorry sir, Segedinho grin
grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:07pm On Sep 12, 2018
Unlimited22:

As I'm sure you didn't know me when I was 4 or 5,i won't press that point.

I dont need to know you.

But I know several 5yrs olds just like everyone on this thread they have kids who are 5yrs, nephews who are 5yrs and they were once 5yr olds too. No one will be developed enough to follow a striker in the Serie A
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 7:08pm On Sep 12, 2018
raumdeuter:


I dont need to know you.

But I know several 5yrs olds just like everyone on this thread they have kids who are 5yrs, nephews who are 5yrs and they were once 5yr olds too. No one will be developed enough to follow a striker in the Serie A
I watched Batistuta. I didn't follow him. There's a difference.
But I followed Klose.
And I asked you, as one who's been following ball for a long time, who's better?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 7:13pm On Sep 12, 2018
raumdeuter:


How is KDB better than Hazard you say? Since they both got to the same league, the same competition same opponents

KdB got to Man City in 2015. Same league as Hazard in those 3 yrs

KDB 35 goals 57 assists = 92 direct contribution to goals and he has played a large part as a Central midfielder
Hazard 42 goals 30 assists = 72 direct contribution to goals and has played as an attacker
..

This is a wrong yardstick cos we all knw dat man City plays attacking football unlike Chelsea. ...
they had more goals dan Chelsea n it z xpected his goal will b higher. ..

y didn't u use d NT since both of dem play wt dsame formation n tactic coming 4m same coach......

why why why
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 7:13pm On Sep 12, 2018
raumdeuter:


How is KDB better than Hazard you say? Since they both got to the same league, the same competition same opponents

KdB got to Man City in 2015. Same league as Hazard in those 3 yrs

KDB 35 goals 57 assists = 92 direct contribution to goals and he has played a large part as a Central midfielder
Hazard 42 goals 30 assists = 72 direct contribution to goals and has played as an attacker
Bros when someone talked about World cup in Russia to judge Hazard and Neymar you stated their whole career or are you saying we can't compare player that didn't play the same league? And remember KDB is at premier league before and did you add hazard goal and assist in that season to the ones you stated up there?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 7:15pm On Sep 12, 2018
OVA200:
Bros when someone talked about World cup in Russia to judge Hazard and Neymar you stated their whole career or are you saying we can't compare player that didn't play the same league? And remember KDB is at premier league before and did you add hazard goal and assist in that season to the ones you stated up there?
Baba ,u neva see anything. ..
wait 4 it
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:29pm On Sep 12, 2018
OVA200:
Bros when someone talked about World cup in Russia to judge Hazard and Neymar you stated their whole career or are you saying we can't compare player that didn't play the same league? And remember KDB is at premier league before and did you add hazard goal and assist in that season to the ones you stated up there?

When someone said world cup Russia, I said all world cups which they both played including Brazil 2014 and Russia 2018 world cup is the same competition. Because its the same world cup

I have no problem comparing different league but some people say that its easier to score in some leagues than in others which is why I restricted it to EPL where they both played the same opposition not like someone was playing West Ham and one was playign Levante

if you want all career irrespective of the league

KDB 372 matches 223 goals + assists contribution to goal rate 0.59
Hazard 499 matches 271 goals + assists contribution to goal rate 0.54
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:33pm On Sep 12, 2018
Segedinho:
..

This is a wrong yardstick cos we all knw dat man City plays attacking football unlike Chelsea. ...
they had more goals dan Chelsea n it z xpected his goal will b higher. ..

y didn't u use d NT since both of dem play wt dsame formation n tactic coming 4m same coach......

why why why

You want us to use National team? Do you realize that KDB plays as a midfielder for NT and Hazard plays as an attacker for NT

Anyway
Hazard 94 NT games 53goals+assists = 0.56goal+assist/game
KDB 68 NT games 42 goals + assist = 0.61 goals+assist/game

Now turn amala, you will be the 3rd shekpe fan to do the same today

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by OVA200(m): 7:36pm On Sep 12, 2018
raumdeuter:


When someone said world cup Russia, I said all world cups which they both played including Brazil 2014 and Russia 2018 world cup is the same competition

I have no problem comparing different league but some people say that its easier to score in some leagues than in others which is why I restricted it to EPL where they both played the same opposition not like someone was playing West Ham and one was playign Levante
I want their career comparison because using premier league alone is like underestimating what KDB did at Wolfsburg and what hazard did at Lille and I stated it clearly from what I ask you, now Since you have no problem comparing different league please do that for me,
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:37pm On Sep 12, 2018
OVA200:
I want their career comparison because using premier league alone is like underestimating what KDB did at Wolfsburg and what hazard did at Lille and I stated it clearly from what I ask you, now Since you have no problem comparing different league please do that for me,

if you want all career irrespective of the league

KDB 372 matches 223 goals + assists. Contribution to goal rate 0.59
Hazard 499 matches 271 goals + assists. Contribution to goal rate 0.54

Now tell us who was better
That is forgetting the fact that KDB plays as a central midfielder and Hazard plays in attack

Source of stats
https://www.transfermarkt.com/kevin-de-bruyne/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/88755

https://www.transfermarkt.com/eden-hazard/leistungsdatendetails/spieler/50202
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:53pm On Sep 12, 2018
raumdeuter:

grin grin grin grin grin

Forget the argument,

Below is a 4yr old boy
[img]http://2.bp..com/-GY_XIcwuTmM/VqWhsXhTsEI/AAAAAAACN04/IxAPSjUdr5I/s400/boy-4-yrs.jpg[/img]

So if this boy tells you he is following Higuain in Juventus you will believe?

This boy resemble you.

Is this one of your offspring you left in Bonny during your days on rig?

WizkiDayo!
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PlainJAY(m): 7:55pm On Sep 12, 2018
raumdeuter:


Thank you Bishop for acknowledging the good work I am doing in the Lords vineyard, Its not easy education shekpites

grin

Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:55pm On Sep 12, 2018
Unlimited22:

There are two questions there.
And yes, I saw Batigol at Fiorentina [/b]and Klose at Bremen and Bayern.

Unlimited22:
What's funny?
[b]I saw Batigol at Roma
, not Fiorentina. And I saw Klose at Werder.

Unlimited22:

I watched Batistuta. I didn't follow him. There's a difference.
But I followed Klose.
And I asked you, as one who's been following ball for a long time, who's better?

Unlimited22:

That is why I'm asking you, as an Elder, who is better?
I saw videos and replayed games cheesy wink
I saw Klose at least. And I took notice at least from Germany 2006.
I even remember wondering why he was prolific at national level but not so prolific at club level.

Did you notice how your argument progressed

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 7:56pm On Sep 12, 2018
Ibime:
This boy resemble you.
Is this one of your offspring you left in Bonny during your days on rig?
WizkiDayo!

Na diggz junior be that. Make we no loud am
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PlainJAY(m): 7:57pm On Sep 12, 2018
Ibime:


This boy resemble you.

Is this one of your offspring you left in Bonny during your days on rig?

WizkiDayo!

Aswear that boy na dayo pikin.

If I lie, check the boy's head
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Ibime(m): 7:58pm On Sep 12, 2018
PlainJAY:


Aswear that boy na dayo pikin.

If I lie, check the boy's head

Na the forehead reveal the clue.

How Dayo go take know the boy age just off pic on the internet if no be him papa.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Segedinho(m): 8:04pm On Sep 12, 2018
raumdeuter:


You want us to use National team? Do you realize that KDB plays as a midfielder for NT and Hazard plays as an attacker for NT

Anyway
Hazard 94 NT games 53goals+assists = 0.56goal+assist/game
KDB 68 NT games 42 goals + assist = 0.61 goals+assist/game

Now turn amala, you will be the 3rd shekpe fan to do the same today
..u knw i don't agree wt u day hazard z a striker....on d other hand wat I want 2 knw is...is his goal/assists higher dan dat of debruyne? ??4m ur calculations d ans is YES,,,,,nothing concern me wth how many games he don play........


but of them went head2head in Russia 18....1 won d 2nd best player n d tournament ahead of d oda .....I guess u knw who



but of them wore d Chelsea jersey but 1 was kicked out 4 d oda cos he was probably 2 amateur 2 cope ..guess u knw who
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by PlainJAY(m): 8:06pm On Sep 12, 2018
Ibime:


Na the forehead reveal the clue.

How Dayo go take know the boy age just off pic on the internet if no be him papa.

Exactly.

We have a raumdeuter jnr.

Another amala Turner in the making. Chai

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