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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by Splashme: 8:59pm On Sep 12, 2018
Buhari is Nigeria's worst
President in history

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by EternalTruths: 8:59pm On Sep 12, 2018
SoNature:


Oga, stop making a baseless argument

Even the education you are talking about falls under infrastructure
Infrastructure is a broad concept

Students won't learn under the tree or without classrooms...lab and the rest

That aside, I believe that Nigeria’s biggest problem is weak institutions

If Nigeria was configured for people in power to have limits, we wouldn't be where we are

Look how they are probing a sitting president in the US

If our institutions are not strong, Nigeria will always remain a joke

Yes, Nigeria is a joke



Let start with this question below to enable you see the light


Why are African nations like Togo, Benin, Ivory Coast, Cameroon, Ghana etc not doing fine despite having steady light, good roads etc.?

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by Jaqenhghar: 9:01pm On Sep 12, 2018
EternalTruths:




Without Technical Education and Business Grants, even if a nation has 24hrs electricity, good roads etc, industrialization that leads to job creation might not be achieved.


This is a basic fact you guys don't understand.


Nigeria should focus more on Technical Education and Business Grants while not neglecting infrastructural development.
Brother dont waste you breath trying to show them the way. Even Bill Gates who tried to tell them they insulted him calling him a school drop out

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by GavelSlam: 9:01pm On Sep 12, 2018
EternalTruths:



You are always shouting infrastructure without seeing the real problem.


Why is Togo, Benin, Ivory Coast, Cameroon etc not doing fine despite having steady light, good roads etc.?


Without Technical Education and Business Grants, even if a nation has 24hrs electricity, good roads etc, industrialization that leads to job creation might not be achieved.

This is a basic fact you guys don't understand.
Nigeria should focus more on Technical Education and Business Grants while not neglecting infrastructural development.

What good roads in Ivory Coast?

You guys make me laugh. No be the same Abidjan wey I don go before even this year?

No doubt, educational quality must be refocused but would commerce be sacrificed for this?

Would you retrench the overbloated civil service in between?

Would electricity be put on the back burner in between?

Would you accept this strategy yourself?

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by erico2k2(m): 9:01pm On Sep 12, 2018
ORIENTATION101:
i guess you didnt read the article
.
she did so under obj but could replicate the same performance under Gej this means she cant take the glory except obasanjo
I never knew Obasanjo was a finance minister . Good to know thanks for the info
Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by Iamgrey5(m): 9:02pm On Sep 12, 2018
EternalTruths:



Why is Togo, Benin, Ivory Coast, Cameroon etc not doing fine despite having steady light, good roads etc.?


Do a research on this question and you understand that that guy is right.
Economic development is process bro, it is not achieved overnight

Togo Benin and Cameroon don't always have good roads or steady electricity before now. Some of these countries still require billions of dollars in investment to catch up with the rest of the world.


Nonetheless, ever since they got these set of basic infrastructural facilities in place, these nation's economies have being improving steadily.

Even China and India didn't just happen overnight!. Yet, both China and India still have over 100millon people living below the poverty line despite their obvious double digits economic growth down the years.


You just can't build a skilled work force without an enabling environment,

who is going to hire them? where will they work?

Who is going to provide funds for them assuming they all want to start producing by themselves?

How will they compete in the global market with countries with better infrastructures?

Do you even know why most Nigerian medical doctors and other trained professionals run to overseas countries to practice their professions at all?

You ponder on those points I raised above and come up with answers

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by ORIENTATION101: 9:03pm On Sep 12, 2018
kenex4ever:
air heads everywhere.

Receive sense.

Why can't obj do it without her influence? Obj hired her because of her records.

U guys are funny, when dat Yoruba guy performed well under GEJ, you condemned GEJ n praised your brother, now it's not NOI dat reduced our debt but OBJ
crack head can ngozi pay nigeria debt without approval of obj

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by BrokenCock: 9:03pm On Sep 12, 2018
AAlozie:
You replaced a seasoned economist with someone without N.Y.S.C certificate. What do you expect?
Besides, it's "like Buhari, like Kemi". Both are highly incompetent.
they come use criminal Abba Kryari finish up the spicing

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by EternalTruths: 9:04pm On Sep 12, 2018
Daejoyoung:

The truth is Nigeria already have many entrepreneual citizens and the basis for a good private sector, we are 180 million people, these countries are small but also have corrupt African leaders impeding growth e.g Togo and Cameroon. lvorycoast and Benin republic would have to free themselves from the cfa currency and the shackles of Frances.



Take note based on real observation.


Nigeria don't have sufficient entrepreneurs.


Why do you think that Nigerians are the largest refugees in Europe from a country that is not experiencing war.


Let's take Buhari for example


How many people has Buhari given business grants worth #3m to start up a business with.?



Also, do you know why many people migrate to Lagos if truly they are lots of entrepreneurs.?



My brother, it takes more than infrastructure to develop a country.

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by ORIENTATION101: 9:05pm On Sep 12, 2018
erico2k2:

I never knew Obasanjo was a finance minister . Good to know thanks for the info
infact ngozi was the Gcfr that append signature and give approval for signing of loans and budget
Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by Iamgrey5(m): 9:06pm On Sep 12, 2018
Jaqenhghar:


Actually its you who should take your advice
like I stated earlier, it will do you a lot good to study basic economics before coming online to show your ignorance.

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by ochallo: 9:07pm On Sep 12, 2018
ORIENTATION101:
how is she going to relief nigeria of debt when major source of forex fall from 120 to 25 .
should kemi be printing dollars to sustain an spend thrift economy which madam okonjo was already told us to brace up for hard times when under her watch nigeria was borrowing to pay salaries when crude was at 78$.
okonjo inheritted more than 47 billions dollars in foreign reserve when crude oil was 100 to 140 for two and half years she never saved a penny and foreign reserve was depleted .and left huge debt ranging from subsidy and federal govt contractors . kemi with meagre resources was able to clear the mess and grow foregin reserve.

kemi deserves accolades

Okonjo never saved a penny. Are you mad?

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by EternalTruths: 9:08pm On Sep 12, 2018
Jaqenhghar:

Brother dont waste you breath trying to show them the way. Even Bill Gates who tried to tell them they insulted him calling him a school drop out


My brother, Nigerians have empty brains and that is why we are underdeveloped.


Is just that sometimes we talk not because of them but because of guests that do come online to learn.

Again, I agree with you that sometimes we should not waste our time with those that can't learn.

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by Nobody: 9:08pm On Sep 12, 2018
erico2k2:

I never knew Obasanjo was a finance minister . Good to know thanks for the info

Obasanjo was not a Finance Minister but had initiatives & connections with leaders all over the world that changed situations.

The IBOs are the majority of ignorant & lazy youths fighting psychological warfare online. Ngozi Okonjo - Iweala is a failure who is supposed to be tried with her accomplices if Nigeria were to be China. In her book, she was defending herself. Peter Obi also tried to defend her by saying opposition & governors made her to share the money they looted.

What saved them is Emefiele at CBN. Buhari is only being magnanimous by giving him chance to complete his tenure. President Buhari has given the reason why he gave him a benefit of doubt. The actual reminant out of the $50 billion inherited from Obj as at May 29, 2007 was around $26 billion as May 29, 2015. As at today, the reserve is over $44 billion.

Okonjo - Iweala that was brought to testify against Obj during Yaradua govt when Ndi Elumelu led committee on power was probing Obj. Mrs Amina statement was misrepresented & misinterpreted. Igbos are propaganda expert.

GEJ & Okonjo - Iweala left Nigeria highly indebted as at May 29, 2015 despite making the HIGHEST REVENUE in the history of Africa till date saving no KOBO, spent everything, borrowed & depleted inherited reserve by over $20 billion. The god of Nigeria will never forgive them. They borrowed to pay salary before they handover to PMB

Obj inherited $5.5 billion from Military as at May 29, 1999 & left over $50 billion as at May 29, 2007. CBN & DMO should tell us the total debt as at May 29, 2015

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by ochallo: 9:09pm On Sep 12, 2018
ORIENTATION101:
infact ngozi was the Gcfr that append signature and give approval for signing of loans and budget

You must be truly mad because the only reason ngozi and oshiomole are at loggerheads is because she stopped all borrowing of the governors.

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by Jaqenhghar: 9:11pm On Sep 12, 2018
Iamgrey5:
like I stated earlier, it will do you a lot good to study basic economics before coming online to show your ignorance.

Says the ignorant one. SMH

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by EternalTruths: 9:12pm On Sep 12, 2018
Iamgrey5:
Economic development is process bro, it is not achieved overnight

Togo Benin and Cameroon don't always have good roads or steady electricity before now. Some of these countries still require billions of dollars in investment to catch with the rest of the world.


Nonetheless, ever since they got these set of basic infrastructure in place, these nation's economy have being improving steadily.

Even China and India didn't just happen overnight?

Still, both China and India still have over 100millon people living below poverty despite their obvious double digits economic growth down the years.


You just can't build a skilled work force without an enabling environment, who is going to hire them, where will they work? Who is going to provide funds for them assuming they all want to start producing by themselves?

You ponder on those points I raised above and come up with answers






Well, I don't need to argue with you but take note of this fact below

No Matter The Level Of Infrastructural Development, Without Technical Education and Business Grants, SMEs Which Are The Main Employers Of Labor, Creators Of Products & Wealth and Platforms To Groom More Dangotes, Won't Proliferate(Increase).

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by ORIENTATION101: 9:13pm On Sep 12, 2018
ochallo:


You must be truly mad because the only reason ngozi and oshiomole are at loggerheads is because she stopped all borrowing of the governors.
you re the stupid idiot here cos i cant remember when she had constutional powers to stop governors from borrowing

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by CSTR1005: 9:15pm On Sep 12, 2018
babaolofin:


Obasanjo was not a Finance Minister but had initiatives & connections with leaders all over the world that changed situations.

The IBOs are the majority of ignorant & lazy youths fighting psychological warfare online. Ngozi Okonjo - Iweala is a failure who is supposed to be tried with her accomplices if Nigeria were to be China. In her book, she was defending herself. Peter Obi also tried to defend her by saying opposition & governors made her to share the money they looted.

What saved them is Emefiele at CBN. Buhari is only being magnanimous by giving him chance to complete his tenure. President Buhari has given the reason why he gave him a benefit of doubt. The actual reminant out of the $50 billion inherited from Obj as at May 29, 2007 was around $26 billion as May 29, 2015. As at today, the reserve is over $44 billion.

Okonjo - Iweala that was brought to testify against Obj during Yaradua govt when Ndi Elumelu led committee on power was probing Obj. Mrs Amina statement was misrepresented & misinterpreted. Igbos are propaganda expert.

GEJ & Okonjo - Iweala left Nigeria highly indebted as at May 29, 2015 despite making the HIGHEST REVENUE in the history of Africa till date saving no KOBO, spent everything, borrowed & depleted inherited reserve by over $20 billion. The god of Nigeria will never forgive them. They borrowed to pay salary before they handover to PMB

Obj inherited $5.5 billion from Military as at May 29, 1999 & left over $50 billion as at May 29, 2007. CBN & DMO should tell us the total debt as at May 29, 2015
Illiterate.
NOI was a senior member of the World Bank then.
Obj hired her for her connection, and not the other way round.

Look at where she is, and where obj currently is.

Which of them is the bigger global player right now. ?

The way your Yoruba illiterates just turn facts on the head is outstanding.

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by Iamgrey5(m): 9:15pm On Sep 12, 2018
Jaqenhghar:

Says the ignorant one. SMH
Yeah, Says the dude that believes economic growth & development can be achieved without building basic infrastructures.


Or the dude that thought building capacity to produce simply means training workers.


joker grin

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by ORIENTATION101: 9:16pm On Sep 12, 2018
ochallo:


Okonjo never saved a penny. Are you mad?
foolish goat.

Tell us the amount we had in foreign reserve and excess crude oil account when Gej handover to buhari

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by kenex4ever(m): 9:17pm On Sep 12, 2018
ORIENTATION101:
crack head can ngozi pay nigeria debt without approval of obj
she made them to pardon most of our debts. Does she need objs help to write off our debts, especially those accumulated by buhari since 1985. Read the article again

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by EternalTruths: 9:18pm On Sep 12, 2018
GavelSlam:


What good roads in Ivory Coast?

You guys make me laugh. No be the same Abidjan wey I don go before even this year?

No doubt, educational quality must be refocused but would commerce be sacrificed for this?

Would you retrench the overbloated civil service in between?

Would electricity be put on the back burner in between?

Would you accept this strategy yourself?


That electricity you are talking about, with Technical Education and Business Grants, people will develop Small, Medium & Large scale solutions to it.

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by Daejoyoung: 9:18pm On Sep 12, 2018
EternalTruths:




Take note based on real observation.


Nigeria don't have sufficient entrepreneurs.


Why do you think that Nigerians are the largest refugees in Europe from a country that is not experiencing war.


Let's take Buhari for example


How many people has Buhari given business grants worth #3m to start up a business with.?



Also, do you know why many people migrate to Lagos if truly they are lots of entrepreneurs.?



My brother, it takes more than infrastructure to develop a country.

You are contradicting yourself actually, people migrate to Lagos because of the ports. Also Lagos ( a former capital of Nigeria) is still the financial center of the country. Frankfurt remains a suitable destination in Germany as the financial powerhouse of Germany, but Germans in even lesser cities( for lack of a better word) like Alle or Gottingen, would never be in a hurry to migrate to Frankfurt, because the Mayors in those state/ cities have also provided the necessary infrastructure needed for the masses to carry out their business or live out their dreams.
Even the education you speak about as a form of empowerment is part of infrastructure, you need good classrooms and standard engineering equipment in schools, labs and technical schools.
Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by CSTR1005: 9:19pm On Sep 12, 2018
ORIENTATION101:
foolish goat.

Tell us the amount we had in foreign reserve and excess crude oil account when Gej handover to buhari

Let kemi save her own.

Nigeria's foreign reserves was practically created by NOI in the obj administration from practically nothing.
The sovereign wealth fund was also her idea.

We have seen NOI save and multiply Nigeria's wealth .

Let us see kemi save. Instead the reserves are falling and debts are rising.

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by erico2k2(m): 9:20pm On Sep 12, 2018
babaolofin:


Obasanjo was not a Finance Minister but had initiatives & connections with leaders all over the world that changed situations.

The IBOs are the majority of ignorant & lazy youths fighting psychological warfare online. Ngozi Okonjo - Iweala is a failure who is supposed to be tried with her accomplices if Nigeria were to be China. In her book, she was defending herself. Peter Obi also tried to defend her by saying opposition & governors made her to share the money they looted.

What saved them is Emefiele at CBN. Buhari is only being magnanimous by giving him chance to complete his tenure. President Buhari has given the reason why he gave him a benefit of doubt. The actual reminant out of the $50 billion inherited from Obj as at May 29, 2007 was around $26 billion as May 29, 2015. As at today, the reserve is over $44 billion.

Okonjo - Iweala that was brought to testify against Obj during Yaradua govt when Ndi Elumelu led committee on power was probing Obj. Mrs Amina statement was misrepresented & misinterpreted. Igbos are propaganda expert.

GEJ & Okonjo - Iweala left Nigeria highly indebted as at May 29, 2015 despite making the HIGHEST REVENUE in the history of Africa till date saving no KOBO, spent everything, borrowed & depleted inherited reserve by over $20 billion. The god of Nigeria will never forgive them. They borrowed to pay salary before they handover to PMB

Obj inherited $5.5 billion from Military as at May 29, 1999 & left over $50 billion as at May 29, 2007. CBN & DMO should tell us the total debt as at May 29, 2015
1st off, Im not Igbo but I think you are living in denial if you cant see they are the movers of Nigeria when it comes to our industrialization, tell me today if you have not bought or consumed something made or sold by an igbo Man?
2nd, I will not subscribe to your wack knowledge of Iweala biography, reason being, you are too minute in the Economic sector to criticise her in this fasion,I say this cos as we speak world economic houses still recognise her as one of Nigeria's finest export, as we speak she is still working under world Economic and financial Bodies.Now name one Nigerian with such pedegree?
Criticism is good but when you are trying to sugercoat shyte you lose credibility in ur argument!

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by ORIENTATION101: 9:20pm On Sep 12, 2018
CSTR1005:

Illiterate.
NOI was a senior member of the World Bank then.
Obj hired her for her connection, and not the other way round.

Look at where she is, and where obj currently is.

Which of them is the bigger global player right now. ?

The way your Yoruba illiterates just turn facts on the head is outstanding.
you re a fool to say a former minister is bigger than

A general
Ex head of state
2 times president of a country
Ex chairman of association past presidents in the whole world.
Obj attends un meetings every year

Ngozi is just a career stooge

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by Iamgrey5(m): 9:21pm On Sep 12, 2018
EternalTruths:




Well, I don't need to argue with you but take note of this fact below

No Matter The Level Of Infrastructural Development, Without Technical Education and Business Grants, SMEs Which Are The Main Employers Of Labor, Creators Of Products & Wealth and Platforms To Groom More Dangotes, Won't Proliferate(Increase).
I understand your views, but you should know that you have simply chosen to define infrastructure from a very narrow view point

Infrastructure can be defined as the basic physical and organizational structures and facilities (e.g. buildings, roads, power supplies) needed for the operation of a society or enterprise.

Without putting the basics in place, we are just simply wasting our time as a nation.

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by contigiency(m): 9:21pm On Sep 12, 2018
kenddys:
sometimes I wonder if kemi did any course relating to the finance industry

You are stupid. is there any body in your family that is as bright as kemi in his field? Did this woman say Nigeria is borrowing because of kemi? you should be reminded that the same okonjo supervised one of the highest revenue boom in the country, yet, Nigeria was borrowing to pay ordinary salary.

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Re: Amina Mohammed: Okonjo-Iweala Got Nigeria Out Of Debt, But We're Back There by Naturalle(f): 9:22pm On Sep 12, 2018
Daejoyoung:

l am not a zombie, but what you wrote up there is pure bullshit. You need infrastructure such as power, rails, good roads, mass housing, health and educational facilities to grow the economy and also the people ( the middle class and the poor especially).

Please Sir I beg to differ. While good infrastructure can catalyze economic growth, it doesn't create it. Training, people, and money (empowerment) can generate the funds we need to even fund infrastructure. Before the roads and light n rails came, people trained and traded and from those monies, they were able to get themselves niceties, and equip themselves with better infrastructure for bountiful trade. I think if we train and empower people, we can get monies via trade and taxation to develop our infrastructure.
Pls don't be angry o, I know nairaland is filled with hot tempered people now.

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