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Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by Nobody: 1:44pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
resurgent2019: When you threaten Igbo in Lagos with the possible loss of their investments you speak from a state of delirium. That is not reality. We must stop that nonsense now. Lets stop!!!! |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by resurgent2019: 1:46pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
jomonic: Ok. Accepted. But what about the biafran struggle? What becomes of it? |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by Nobody: 1:58pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
resurgent2019: There is also Oduduwa and Arewa struggle at one point or the other. One solution kills all and it is justice and equity. |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by resurgent2019: 2:08pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
jomonic: Hmmmmmmmmm. No comments. |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by BabaRamota1980: 2:12pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
jomonic: Informally, Yorubas have stopped regarding you as a political partner in the future of Nigeria. We are sure to support your departure if it ever came up for voting. The gain or loss of your trade and investment in Lagos is not in Yoruba hands but in yours. As many Ibo that are caught and executed in Asian countries for drug related charges, has it stopped their brothers from following in their footsteps? No. So we know in Yorubaland that to expect Ibo to respect their Yoruba hosts in Lagos is a dream...a fantasy, it wont happen. Yoruba need to put measure in place to preserve its territorial ownership of Lagos. There are many steps we are taking. Making Yoruba a compulsory language and subject is one. Many more programmes to follow. So your idea of protection of investment is ridiculous. You are not the only non-Yoruba tribe in Lagos. Why do our other guests feel secured but you do not? You should manage that fear on your side, we do not owe you a special treatment. 11 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by Nobody: 2:32pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
BabaRamota1980: I have always suspected that it is all about Lagos. Can you enumerate how Igbo disrespect their hosts in Lagos. And how do you want them to conduct themselves that they are contravening. Don't you think that you can openly canvas for constitutional changes that will exclude non Yoruba from the politics of Lagos. If it becomes the law everyone will abide by it. We cannot pretend that non indigenes do not exist when they do in large numbers and the constitution does not restrict them from elective positions. I mean this is a reality that we must accept and live with. At no point do I expect that a non Yoruba should aspire to be an Oba. But the political positions are open to qualified candidate if we must progress. Its not only Yoruba people that can develop Lagos. Lagos have been a cosmopolitan town with diverse groups contributing to its development. We need to be open and objective and challenge the status quo. Lets be focusing on the bigger picture. OK I imagine that you guys want the Igbo to spearhead Biafra so that Nigeria dismembers and thereafter you can have your beloved Lagos. But you do not want to take any risks in the process and you also want to be seen as not wanting separations in case it all goes wrong. Can you for a moment think of a Lagos without the Igbos (Let us assume you have killed all of them and taken all their properties), the Oil and gas companies, other nigerians. That Lagos will be completely different from what it is today. Even a separate Biafra will still need the Nigerian market to survive. So my brother we all need each other please. |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by resurgent2019: 2:47pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
jomonic: Hmmmmmmmm. This one you are sounding conciliatory so. I would still refrain from addressing the substance of this post. |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by Nobody: 2:54pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
resurgent2019: I don't understand. My position on issues have always been same. Unchanged. I am not a bigot and I will never be. We all need each other to make Nigeria a great nation. As I said it is equity and justice. |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by resurgent2019: 2:57pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
jomonic: You have spoken well but please don’t say Yorubas want to kill or take over igbo properties. The worst we can do is formulate stringent policies to deter more igbos from residing and investing in our region. We are not violent people. We can threaten and boast but we would never adopt violence as a way to solve our problems. |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by Nobody: 3:03pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
resurgent2019: More refreshing from you. |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by citizenY(m): 3:04pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
Throwback: This is the narrative we saw physically but have refused to tell our children in attempts to be " politically correct" only to be insulted in today's Nigeria as Illiterates, Almajiri, shoe shiner, parasite in daily interface despite our education. What they are doing to us today reminds me of those dark days and tells me that they have not changed. Do you blame me? When I am a witness? Will i be justified to insist that my children should not see what i have seen? The time for being "politically correct" is gone. My PVC has along validuty period and I will make sure that anybody that insulted me in 66 and whose children are insulting me now, does not have the chance to lord it over my grand children and give them the same treatment . It is called democracy, using your vote. 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by citizenY(m): 3:26pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
Throwback: Today enhhhh... abeg..... please I beg you to close this matter here. Younger ones dey here. Let's be adults and watch our emotions. These warriors latch onto catch phrases and begin to use them without understanding the narrative. I beg you. My anger never reach your own but please. 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by citizenY(m): 3:34pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
BabaRamota1980: 2 Likes |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by citizenY(m): 3:49pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
Gabriel004: Wuuderbar...... eine flasche sekt.... prost |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by meccuno: 4:01pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
Federal Character Principle was the product of Gowon Administration when after the Civil War when it was believed that Igbos occupied major ministries. But that should not border any body because Igbos did not occupy every ministry before the war. Remark that Tafawa Balewa was in Power and Ahmadu Bello made sure that Hausa-Fulani held the Nigerian Military even without formal education. So, where is Federal Character Principle in the Nigerian Military? Hausa should not monopolize everything; Igbo should not monopolize every thing; Yoruba should not monopolize every thing; Efik, Ijaw, Tiv, Fulani, and others should not monopolize every thing; I think that is what Federal Character Principle stands for. BUT AS IT IS NOW, SHOULD WE SAY THERE IS FEDERAL CHARACTER PRINCIPLE IN NIGERIA? NOW LOOK AT THIS DATA: 1) About 70% of Nigeria Foot-soldiers are from Hausa-Fulani. Is that Federal Character Principle? 2) About 80% of all Permanent Secretaries in Federal Ministries are from Hausa-Fulani. Is that Federal Character Principle? 3) About 80% of those given Oil Wells presently in the Oil from Niger Delta Region are from Hausa-Fulani. Is that Federal Character Principle? 4) About 60% of Generals in the Nigerian Military are from Hausa-Fulani. Is that Federal Character Principle? 5) About 60% of the Heads of Parastatals are from Hausa-Fulani. Is that Federal Character Principle? 6) About 70% of the Top Posts in P.D.P are from Hausa-Fulani. Is that Federal Character Principle? 7) About 60% of the Top Ranks in Nigerian Police Force are from Hausa-Fulani. Is that Federal Character Principle? About 70% of Nigerian State Security Services (SSS) men are from Hausa-Fulani. Is that Federal Character Principle? 9) About 60% Top Posts in each of: Nigerian Prison Services, Nigeria Immigration and Nigerian Ports Authority are from Hausa-Fulani. Is that Federal Character Principle? 10) Visit JAMB Office and see. About 90% of the employees are from both Hausa –Fulani and Yoruba tribes. Is that Federal Character Principle? 11) Visit Federal Secretariat Abuja Central Area Complex and see for your self. More than 80% of all the employees are from both Hausa-Fulani and Yoruba tribes combined. Is that Federal Character Principle? 12) Visit Nigerian Universities Commission (NUC) and see for yourself. About 95% of the professors and workers are from Hausa-Fulani and Yoruba tribes combined. Is that Federal Character Principle? 13) Go and check all the Federal Universities, Federal Colleges of Education, Federal Polytechnics. About 90% of all the Registrars and Bursars are from both Hausa-Fulani and Yoruba tribes combined. Is that Federal Character Principle? 14) Go and check all those given appointments to serve on behalf of Nigeria in both African Union and United Nations. About 98% of them are from both Hausa-Fulani and Yoruba tribes combined. Is that Federal Character Principle? 15) About 70% of all the Ambassadors and High Commissioners are from Hausa-Fulani and Yoruba tribes combined. Is that Federal Character Principle? 16) About 95% of all the employees (staff) of Nigerian High Commissions and Ambassadorials abroad are from Hausa-Fulani and Yoruba tribes combined. Is that Federal Character Principle? 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by citizenY(m): 4:28pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
jomonic: We know, Nigeria cannot move forward till you are placed on the right hand side of God.......and then. you will close the gates of heaven, shutting us out. 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by resurgent2019: 4:39pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
citizenY: This is a serious comment ooo. I don’t know why igbos can’t stop insulting other Nigerians. They are really doing damage to their tribe’s chances of ever being politically relevant in Nigeria by denigrating others. In fact, it seems they have given up all hope of being President Of Nigeria—which invariably means they would need hausa and Yoruba votes—and adopted a zero sum approach of destroying the country. It is akin to the biblical story of the two prostitutes and King Solomon. It’s also known as the sour grapes principle—if I can’t have it, I rather destroy it. The coming years will be very rough for them politically indeed. I hope the igbos are seeing this? 8 Likes |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by citizenY(m): 4:57pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
Olril18: Na blind man talk say eye dey smell.....Hausa idiom. 3 Likes |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by BabaRamota1980: 6:03pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
meccuno: Dont just throw numbers and percentages out like you are talking to your co-travellers in alaibo. You will come out correct on my thread. Now tidy yourself up and start all over. We need true numbers by ethnic group, not all these speculations you are fabricating. Give us authentic numbers. 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by meccuno: 6:12pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
BabaRamota1980:i cant be doing that for you mr. do the research your self. 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by BabaRamota1980: 7:53pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
jomonic: The bottom line of Yoruba society is diversity....whether in politics, in commerce, or in marriage. Yoruba race have never in our history been known to hate anyone, not even people we went to war with. While Oyo warred Dahomey, trade between the two was still on going and markets did not stop operating. While Yoruba warred Fulani the two were still meeting in mosques and saying prayers together and Fulani clerics were still lecturing in Yorubaland, neither were Yorubas passing through Fulani territory to Agades for trade harrassed. In fact during Biafran war there were pockets of Ibos that did not return home but remained behind in Yorubaland. So we are not a hateful society....but by God, its hard not to hate Ibo. I was, few weeks ago, looking online for history on some legal documents that Herbert Macauley signed regarding Amodu Tijjani's case against Oba of Lagos and the Colony as defendants, I found it but also stumbled on a very important document about how they traded slaves in Lagos before abolishment. The Portuguese and the Dutch addressed the sitting Oba of Lagos like they were talking to their own King. They were even pleading with him to intercede on their behalf to open more trades hinterland. So who is Ibo in Lagos? You are nothing! Lagos has always been a commercial nerve center of prosperity. Lagos will not miss a heartbeat when you leave. I am yet to see an Ibo migrant that entered Lagos with pocket full of millions... Lagos is your benefactor. You can never bring Lagos to its knees, but Lagos can wreck your fortunes. We will not go into history as a hateful tribe. We must put a wall between you and us so that our frustrations with you does not spillover into violence and wipeout. It is very important an Ibo does not ascend the presidency of this country. Just as an attachment, without presidential power, under Jonathan look at what your sister did. So imagine if you were the ruler with presidential powers....what should we expect? 12 Likes |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by maestroferdi: 9:57pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
Throwback:Despite your gratuitous verbosity, you were still unable to rise above crass ignorance. In the First Republic Nigerian was practising parliamentary democracy. I believe you can figure out how the parliamentary system of government runs... In any case, the last time I checked Azikiwe was, as some Yorubas would derisively labelled him, a ceremonial president/figurehead. Are you implying that Azikiwe was powerful than the combo of Balewa and Ahmadu Bello? Can you try a little in explaining the preponderance of the Igbos in Officer Cadre of the Nigerian Army? Was that also engineer ed by Azikiwe? Instead of venting your frustration on the Igbos, why not chew on the fact that a Yoruba man Ogundipe was asked to take reins of power after the counter coup in July 1966 only for him to cowardly chicken out and run to London... The momentum will always be with the Igbos, there is just you traducers can do about it. 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by maestroferdi: 10:57pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
resurgent2019:Quit being obtuse/dense... |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by maestroferdi: 11:01pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
resurgent2019:Your thought process is a monumental embarrassment... |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by Nobody: 11:17pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
citizenY: Nigeria will not move forward until there is justice, fairness and equality. Until this condition is fulfilled majority of Nigeria will continue to struggle. |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by Gabriel004: 11:54pm On Sep 17, 2018 |
Bane2020:See this schizophrenic patient talking too. Who your monkey like banana. Lol, someone that can't type correctly without the auto correct on his phone trying to show |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by pazienza(m): 1:26am On Sep 18, 2018 |
Lol! The hate is real. If Federal character was used in appointments and promotions in Aviation industry before Stella appeared, how come nearly all the heads of the departments were Yorubas? It's obvious Federal character wasn't applied in their appointments. It's a case of those(Yorubas) who were already used to privileges, now seeing equity and justice as injustice to them. Oduah had to sack excess Yoruba heads to create room for Igbos who were almost non existent in the leadership structure of the aviation industry, because Yorubas had hijacked the ministry and ensured only them and their kinds got promoted on regular basis. You rushed and took both your share and others share. And when forced to give up the excess you took, so that others could get their share, you turn back and accuse others of tribalism, for not allowing you keep your excesses. Until Yorubas explain to Nigerians How nearly all the GM in a federal government parastatal like Aviation ministry, ended up being only Yorubas, your calumny campaign against Oduah and Ndiigbo would never stand. 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by pazienza(m): 1:36am On Sep 18, 2018 |
"Otherwise, how else does one describe recent hoopla that greeted Ethiopian Airlines’, ET, foray into AkanuIbiam International Airport, Enugu, two weeks ago. It should be noted that any government serious about the development of its aviation sector would not celebrate multiple entries for foreign airlines into its territories as doing that sets the tone for death of local airlines. And for an aviation sector that is as fledgling as Nigeria’s, the multiple entries granted foreign airlines by officials of the Aviation Ministry can best be described as debilitating for a struggling economy. The implication of this is capital flight which, before now, had been put at close to N100 billion annually. So, the wild celebration that greeted ET flight into Enugu demonstrated the lack of capacity on the part of those drawing up policies for the aviation industry. Enugu now makes Ethiopian Airlines’ third entry point into the country, after Lagos and Abuja. Other foreign airlines enjoy same approvals from the Aviation Ministry. This makes the aviation industry the worst bleeding spot for the country in terms of capital flight. Ideally, local airlines are positioned to feed passengers for foreign airlines but now that the international airlines are indirectly carrying passengers to virtually every corner of the country, government’s talk about assisting domestic airlines to grow amounts to policy somersault. No sane country does it. The entry of Ethiopian Airlines into Enugu is a negative development for domestic airlines. All we have done is to give way to kill the domestic carriers; we are killing the industry gradually. They have also succeeded in killing operations into Port Harcourt, Owerri and Asaba, as the domestic airlines are supposed to feed passengers for foreign airlines to these airports. Politically, we have scored some good points but on the other hand, we are damaging the economy,” said Capt. Dele Ore, an ex-pilot. http://www.vanguardngr.com/2013/10/aviation-development-a-rehash-of-old-tunes-2/ 1 Like |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by pazienza(m): 1:40am On Sep 18, 2018 |
Above is the demonstration of the hate the Yorubas habour towards Ndiigbo. Oduah determination to open up Enugu as an international gateway didn't seat well with hateful Yorubas, who were scared of Lagos losing its market share. The likes of Dele Ore actively fought against Oduah, and Oduah had to fight back as well. To Yorubas, Enugu International Airport must not stand, in addition to that, Stella was supposed to allow them to continue unchallenged and unmerited dominance in the aviation industry, to the detriment of Ndiigbo. Stella fought against this fiercely, and Yorubas came for her head using their media. This is just a tip of the grand conspiracy Ndiigbo have suffered at the hands of Yorubas. Isn't it instructive that just few Years after OBJ a Yoruba son had 8yrs presidency with Igbo massive support, Yorubas are currently VP, yet they seek to become president again while they insist that Igbos must remain in the sidelines. And to ensure this, it is now expedient for Yorubas to employ all tactics available to appeal to the Igbophobic bond of Nigerians, by undergoing calumny campaign against Ndiigbo. Igbos are hateful and vindictive and dont build alliances, Yorubas preach, in bid to paint Igbos black, to enhance their own chances of taking the presidency slot when it comes to South again. Forget the fact that SW and SS have had their turns at presidency since 1999. Yorubas are not being greedy for trying to usurp SE to Presidency after they had their turn under Obasanjo, Yorubas are not being ingrates for not repaying back the favour Igbos gave to them by supporting OBJ, their son for eight years. Nope, how can it be that they are being greedy, power hungry, unfair and ungrateful, only Igbos can be those things. They (Yorubas) are only being sophisticated. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by BabaRamota1980: 5:05am On Sep 18, 2018 |
Pazienza, Ibos are ruinous! You always want to be at top but once there you are incompetent and ruin everything. To drive home the danger of placing an Ibo at top I'm going to your homeland to bring up Akanu Ibiam International Airport as example. The attached pictures says it all. Before Oduah became minister this airport had never been flooded and operated safely. So did her intervention help or ruined the facility? Her intervention are the Ibos she filled into positions as heads. Your governors, your stakeholders and people that need safe operation of the airport to make income are complaining. Do you see Capt. Ore's name here? Do you see any Yoruba amongst the aggrieved? No, they are all Ibos. Prior to Oduah's intervention Akanu Ibiam had a functioning service and a well operated and functioning cargo hub. So your posts support my call to block any and all opportunity by which Ibo will ever become president in Nigeria. If absence of Ibo at top posts make airports operate well and services functioned hitch free and businesses had no complaint...but once competent hands were sacked to position Ibo as the boss, then all things that worked before ceased functioning and facilities even became death traps for passengers and airlines, then we should endeavor to keep Ibo away from positions of leadership! 6 Likes |
Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by BabaRamota1980: 5:06am On Sep 18, 2018 |
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Re: Igbo Presidency Vs Yoruba Presidency. Why Yoruba Must Worry.... by Gabriel004: 7:59am On Sep 18, 2018 |
Xander85:What happened when the north gave you people quit notice to help your dream. Why did they not leave, why begging. So you expect me to read for you in order for you to pass your exam right. 5 Likes 1 Share |
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