haryomikun:

Marciano had a very very good chin bro. Big Mike would have had a challenge if he faced Rocky

PrecisionFx:


Iron Mike go chop am like cream crackers biscuit...

chetmann:
but their boxing stats are better?

mrsirdam:

Who has Wilder fought? How about AJ's former mandatory in Ortiz? He lost every round before tge stoppage? Did you not see the knock down in the 5th round? Your comment is very biased and misinformed. You're in ur own world

BluntBoy:


This is the excuse you people keep on making.

Who has AJ himself fought? An old inactive Klischko or a Parker who had just come off an elbow surgery?

It is not like Wilder was running away from big fights. It was his potential opponents that always ended up fucking up. When he should have fought Povetkin, Povetkin tested positive to drugs. When he should have initially fought Ortiz, Ortiz failed a drug test. Wilder has never run away from a fight.

I am not saying he will beat AJ but people should stop making it seem like the man is a coward. AJ may not be afraid of Wilder but it is evident that AJ's promoter (Hearn) is afraid.

tbaba1234:


Klitschko was absent for 18 months due to failed rematches against Fury. He was always in the gym and was in phenomenal shape on the night against Joshua. He produced one of his best fights in a decade even in defeat.

Parker's surgery was a good thing. He was 100% when he faced Joshua.

Compare that to Fury, who was out for 2 years, blew up in weight. Had drugs, alcohol and depression problems. He has fought 2 nobodies and is far from his best shape. That is the man Wilder wants to fight. Meanwhile, Whyte and Breazeale are number 1 and 2 in the WBC.

Wilder has run away from big fights. He ducked klitschko when they were both champs. Lou debella said Wilder was not ready for Klitschko when he was WBC champ.

Wilder reject two of his highest ever paydays to fight Joshua. No one is afraid. It is all about money.

SirToby:

Parker's surgery made him 100% fit. The surgery result was released to scare AJ.

BluntBoy:


He was not 100% fit as he was barely recuperating. He was however 100% fit against Whyte.

SirToby:

He was fit. His team stated the surgery has help his movement and power significantly, and will be a game-changer against Joshua.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12018013

tbaba1234:


Ortiz and Stiverne are Wilder's only top 10 opponents after 40 fights. The man has been fighting stiffs.Ortiz was never AJ's Mandatory.

Wilder was getting outboxed and countered before and after the knockdown in round 5. The referee saved his butt in round 8 by giving him more time to recover after Ortiz had him in trouble.

Joshua's opponent are certainly better than Wilder.

Whyte and Breazeale are currently number 1 and 2 in the WBC but Wilder ducked them to fight an out of shape Fury who had drug and alcohol problems and was terribly out of shape for over 2 years.

Joshua already beat both men.

BluntBoy:


Bro, you have not been following boxing at all.

Why did Hearn arrange Whyte for Wilder if he really wanted Wilder's belt? In my opinion, I think AJ should be more interested in fighting Wilder than Wilder should be. AJ has the three significant belts and needs Wilder's belt to make history. He is already a unified champion, yet Hearn threw Whyte in Wilder's face.

Like I said earlier, I don't suppose AJ is afraid of Wilder. He has said he would fight anybody they put in front of him. But Hearn is clearly scared of Wilder.

You are still making excuses. You make excuses for AJ but don't want to allow excuses for Wilder.

Just so you know, Wilder had even at a time cut his pay potentials just to fight AJ but the deal still dragged until AJ was mandated to fight Povetkin.

PrecisionFx:


Iron Mike go chop am like cream crackers biscuit...

haryomikun:

boxing stats dont mean anything abeg... Those two will never be anywhere near the greatest 50 in boxing

They were good, yes.

Did they have great stats, yes.

Doesnt mean someone like Ali wont pick them apart

chetmann:
it is hard to say

tbaba1234:


Oga, you do not follow boxing more than me.

Whyte is number 1 in the WBC. Wilder should fight him and stop ducking. Whyte has earned his shot.

Both fighters want the fight. I do not think anyone is scared. The problem is money.

Wilder has been offered 12 million and then 15 million for the fight. This is 6 times higher than he earns normally but he rejected it. AJ is the one drawing the cash not Wilder. Wilder can not fill a stadium in the US.

Wilder is not realistic with his money demands.

haryomikun:

actually it isnt sir. Ali boxed against people with different styles including sluggers, swarmers, out fighters and inside fighters.

And beat all of them.

The reason he's considered as the greatest is not just because he beat every other great fighter in their prime but also because he changed strategy for each and every fighter he faced.

Foreman, Frazier, Liston, Ken Norton, Cleveland Williams are some of the people he beat. All these guys are listed among the best HW boxers of all time

chetmann:
and many of them beat him too. Wlad & vitali are tough guys,but that doesn't take anything away from ali's pedigree. Did you ever see sonny Liston vs aki 1%2? Too small and weak when compared to today's heavy weights. Wlad would have beaten Liston,Norton,Frazier,and young foreman. But then Ali is still who he is.

chetmann:
did Kevin McBride a white guy not beat your iron mike to retirement?

tbaba1234:


Oga, you do not follow boxing more than me.

Whyte is number 1 in the WBC. Wilder should fight him and stop ducking. Whyte has earned his shot.

Both fighters want the fight. I do not think anyone is scared. The problem is money.

Wilder has been offered 12 million and then 15 million for the fight. This is 6 times higher than he earns normally but he rejected it. AJ is the one drawing the cash not Wilder. Wilder can not fill a stadium in the US.

Wilder is not realistic with his money demands.

PrecisionFx:



Mike Tyson was 39 years den, too old to fight young blood.


Mike vs McBride as @ 1990 = 33 secs knockout...

chetmann:
he was just 35 and not 39 please keep it factual.

tbaba1234:


Klitschko was absent for 18 months due to failed rematches against Fury. He was always in the gym and was in phenomenal shape on the night against Joshua. He produced one of his best fights in a decade even in defeat.

Parker's surgery was a good thing. He was 100% when he faced Joshua.

Compare that to Fury, who was out for 2 years, blew up in weight. Had drugs, alcohol and depression problems. He has fought 2 nobodies and is far from his best shape. That is the man Wilder wants to fight. Meanwhile, Whyte and Breazeale are number 1 and 2 in the WBC.

Wilder has run away from big fights. He ducked klitschko when they were both champs. Lou debella said Wilder was not ready for Klitschko when he was WBC champ.

Wilder reject two of his highest ever paydays to fight Joshua. No one is afraid. It is all about money.

tbaba1234:


Ortiz and Stiverne are Wilder's only top 10 opponents after 40 fights. The man has been fighting stiffs.Ortiz was never AJ's Mandatory.

Wilder was getting outboxed and countered before and after the knockdown in round 5. The referee saved his butt in round 8 by giving him more time to recover after Ortiz had him in trouble.

Joshua's opponent are certainly better than Wilder.

Whyte and Breazeale are currently number 1 and 2 in the WBC but Wilder ducked them to fight an out of shape Fury who had drug and alcohol problems and was terribly out of shape for over 2 years.

Joshua already beat both men.

BluntBoy:


There were no top black boxers because the Klischko brothers dominated. Stop making excuses!!!

If I went by your logic, then I should also say that blacks dominated boxing at a time when there were not top white boxers like Gerrie Coetzee, Quarry and Morrison and even the Klischko brothers.

euromilion:
AJ needs to pray hard,I see him going down.

euromilion:
AJ needs to pray hard,I see him going down.