patrickmuf:
All I need to see for me to know how good he is or how respected he is, is the way teams set up to comtain him, he is always marked by 2-3 players and no ordinary player is given that attention...

Contain who? Serious teams just allow him to dance around and when he is tired he will lose the ball

popizaino:





See somebody talking about porous memory when you don't even can't even differnciate season.
The season you beat Juventus 4-1 wasn't the season juventus beat us 3-0.
Beside both you and juventus are my every day culprits till drogba retired.

You read that and came to the conclusion that it was same season? Lack of education for Chelsea fans is worrying

The season you lost 3-0 was the same season Bayern beat Juventus home and away 4-0 aggregates

Olalekank:

Who argues Bendtner or Zaha lol?

And yes, people argue over Messi and Ronaldo.

In my own opinion, Ronaldo ain't good. Sounds ridiculous right? I only see him use head and "tap" the ball.

Of course this might sound ridiculous to you and that is based on the fact that I hate him.


SAME WAY YOU ARGUING THAT HAZARD AIN'T GOOD SOUNDS RIDICULOUS TO MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ON THE PLANET.

EVEN LADIES AT THE OFFICE ARE RUSHING TO GET HAZARD IN THEIR FPL TEAM.

The one in bold is foolishness. ANyone who says Ronaldo is not good

dopeJemi:
Zaha in Crystal palace. Good evening

Adama Traore, Dusan Tadic

dopeJemi:

Zaha in Crystal palace. Good evening

I no get time for argument, I just stated my opinion on Hazard...

dopeJemi:


That have all been sacked, Good morning, have a great day.

did it stop them from being successful coaches?

some clubs without a notable winger in years are even saying Hazard is not good.
The one they bought plays Piano better than football but you would never hear anybody say Richarlson is better than him.

That says a lot.

Well another weekend is upon us. Blue faithfuls, let's go pick up another W.

patrickmuf:
I no get time for argument, I just stated my opinion on Hazard...

My reply to that post doesn't have "argument" written all over it. You said he is always marked by 2-3 Players and no ordinary player is given that much attention, I just brought to your notice another extraordinary player who 2-3 players also mark, His name is Zaha and he plays for Crystal palace. That's all.

Have a great weekend.

raumdeuter:


Adama Traore, Dusan Tadic

Extraordinary players

Greatihex:
did it stop them from being successful coaches?

I don't know bruh, Just wondering why all the successful coaches were sacked.

Cahill looking to move by January

dopeJemi:


I don't know bruh, Just wondering why all the successful coaches were sacked.

sorry

patrickmuf:
That a midfielder was detailed to man mark Hazard tells you that he was identified as a threat and mind you, it was not just Herrera on him, Valencia was also an ever present.

Herrera was the one on him every time. Valencia wasn't ever present. There are proofs

Afolabi6046:
some clubs without a notable winger in years are even saying Hazard is not good.
The one they bought plays Piano better than football but you would never hear anybody say Richarlson is better than him.

That says a lot.

Well another weekend is upon us. Blue faithfuls, let's go pick up another W.

Say it, we will not vex. We don't use to do strong head like shepkites

eph12:

Herrera was the one on him every time. Valencia wasn't ever present. There are proofs

How often dpes Herrera get a job to man mark players when he plays? If you're sincere, you'd realize that he is hardly ever does he go around chasimg other player like he does Hazard.

dopeJemi:


My reply to that post doesn't have "argument" written all over it. You said he is always marked by 2-3 Players and no ordinary player is given that much attention, I just brought to your notice another extraordinary player who 2-3 players also mark, His name is Zaha and he plays for Crystal palace. That's all.

Have a great weekend.

Check Palace record with Zaha and Palace without Zaha and you'd know how much of an imfluence he has on that team...Zaha is a good player, don't be deceived by the narrative here, since he lwft United, he has come leaps and bounds...

patrickmuf:
How often dpes Herrera get a job to man mark players when he plays? If you're sincere, you'd realize that he is hardly ever does he go around chasimg other player like he does Hazard.

I am not arguing with you. All players that dribble have more than one players on them most times when they're with the ball.

eph12:

I am not arguing with you. All players that dribble have more than one players on them most times when they're with the ball.

Is Hazard world class or not?

patrickmuf:
Check Palace record with Zaha and Palace without Zaha and you'd know how much of an imfluence he has on that team...Zaha is a good player, don't be deceived by the narrative here, since he lwft United, he has come leaps and bounds...

Same thing we are saying bruh, that's why we compare Him with Hazard. I wasn't being sarcastic.

dopeJemi:


Same thing we are saying bruh, that's why we compare Him with Hazard. I wasn't being sarcastic.

we can as well compare Messi with Zaha seeing how influential they are to their respective teams...

patrickmuf:
Is Hazard world class or not?

I don't think he is. If you think he is, why do you think so? Because he has 2-3 players on him or because he drimbles ? Oh he scores goals and gives assists?

patrickmuf:
we can as well compare Messi with Zaha seeing how influential they are to their respective teams...

Nope, we can't, they don't post similar numbers, not even close. Zaha and Hazard post similar numbers.

Which one be 'drimble' again

Una ehn

eph12:

I don't think he is. If you think he is, why do you think so? Because he has 2-3 players on him or because he drimbles ? Oh he scores goals and gives assists?

Hazard much like Iniesta doesn't really score that but he males the play, his movement with the ball causes panic and opens up spaces for others around him...This season with a coach that understand the talent he has, he is doing better because he us much closer to where the action happens, the 18 yard box...
I read here where Sarri said he told him to stay closer to the goal, spmething similar to the method Pep used with Messi to conserve his energy for maximum impact...This season, with Kovacic, Willian and sometimes Kante who have been saddled with the responsibility of brimging the ball forward, you see Hazard doing much better and from the looks of things, bar an injury, he'll only get better...

dopeJemi:


Nope, we can't, they don't post similar numbers, not even close. Zaha and Hazard post similar numbers.

You have reduced the basis to goals and assist stat but they're other parameters in football...
If it was always about goals and assist, then Zidane wouldn't have won any of his personal awards especially at an era where you had goal machines like Henry, Ronaldo, Shevy etc

patrickmuf:
You have reduced the basis to goals and assist stat but they're other parameters in football...
If it was always about goals and assist, then Zidane wouldn't have won any of his personal awards especially at an era where ypu had gp machines like Henry, Ronaldo, Shevy etc

So how else can a player be influential to their team? If Palace were losing Zaha not scoring the winner almost all the time or the opener, Will you call him influential to the team? Or what record are we checking when he is on and off the pitch? Good luck and ill luck record? You were actually the one who brought the basis to Goals and Assists When you talked about influence, And For an attacker to influence a game, he is either scoring or assisting.

Last last we are saying the same thing, Hazard and Zaha are both influential to their respective teams, I see no reason why we can't compare them

dopeJemi:


So how else can a player be influential to their team? If Palace were losing Zaha not scoring the winner almost all the time or the opener, Will you call him influential to the team? Or what record are we checking when he is on and off the pitch? Good luck and ill luck record? You were actually the one who brought the basis to Goals and Assists When you talked about influence, And For an attacker to influence a game, he is either scoring or assisting.

Was Zidane inflential? Was Inesta influential? If yes, why were they influential? What is it about Iniesta's game that draws plaudits from analyst world over?

patrickmuf:
You have reduced the basis to goals and assist stat but they're other parameters in football...
If it was always about goals and assist, then Zidane wouldn't have won any of his personal awards especially at an era where you had goal machines like Henry, Ronaldo, Shevy etc

Iniesta is a midfielder, Zidane is a midfielder, Hazard is an attacker the criteria for midfielders differ for attackers

patrickmuf:
Was Zidane inflential? Was Inesta influential? If yes, why were they influential? What is it about Iniesta's game that draws plaudits from analyst world over?

Yes, Cause it was either their goals or assists that brought their teams silverware.

Is there anything that Hazard does for Chelsea that Zaha doesn't for Crystal palace? Without even putting into consideration that the latter plays for a mediocre club with mediocre players

Why exactly can't they be compared?

dopeJemi:


Yes, Cause it was either their goals or assists that brought their teams silverware.

Is there anything that Hazard does for Chelsea that Zaha doesn't for Crystal palace? Without even putting into consideration that the latter plays for a mediocre club with mediocre players

Why exactly can't they be compared?

Trophies? Gazard scored against us to help Chelsea win the Fa Cup, right?

dopeJemi:


Yes, Cause it was either their goals or assists that brought their teams silverware.

Is there anything that Hazard does for Chelsea that Zaha doesn't for Crystal palace? Without even putting into consideration that the latter plays for a mediocre club with mediocre players

Why exactly can't they be compared?

Hazard wins trophies for Chelsea, how many has Zaha won fpr Palace?