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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 9:28pm On Sep 23, 2018
ChrisKels:




No mind people make dem dey peddle lies. Otigba is good and he is playing for one poor team in hungry while his mates are in Serie A(Ekong), laliga (Omeruo). Otigba that was a bench warmer in Turkey where Omeruo and Ekong excelled. Otigba was good and he was relegated to the bench soon after his break through at Heerenveen, he was good yet, no big team came for him from the Eredivisie or anywhere else in Europe.

Dessers, a bench warmer for lowly Utretch is only being praised here because of his skin colour. As bad as Isaac Success is, Dessers aint his match. Can Dessers command a starting shirt in the Eredivisie, let alone the Laliga where Success held sway? Dessers is good, yet he hasn't been able to do what kayode did in Wien abi no be same jupiler league he ran away from that our guys have been tearing up over the years from Onyekuru , to Simon, to Kalu, Olayinka, even Bonaventure etc

Make we no dey glorify mediocrity just because we believe that anything foreign is special.

OLA Aina declared, Balogun declared, Vicmo declared, Ebuehi declared, ikeme et al declared and they got invited. My dear, if u are good, u will get a look in, then u if are better than what we have already, then God dun butter ur bread. KPOM!!!

Where was Ekong playing before he got called to the national team?

Without the national team Ekong would be nowhere.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Clementoke(m): 9:30pm On Sep 23, 2018
If Seyi Ojo can prove to be as good or better than the RWs we have on ground (thank God, Kalu is in the same ligue 1), he will be invited regardless of this declaration. Rohr no get conscience ni?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Clementoke(m): 9:35pm On Sep 23, 2018
tbaba1234:


Otigba was the most blatant one. He certainly deserved a chance to prove himself.

You can give valid reasons why some of the others were not considered.

I agree with you, Otigba should have been called as at that time. Where I beg to differ is when we speak against players openly declaring for us with the argument that we will value them less if they do so
If you are good, you are good; No be go come
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:38pm On Sep 23, 2018
tbaba1234:


At the time, Otigba declared for Nigeria. He was as good as the other options there. He was playing regularly in the Eredivise and rejected an invitation from Hungary. At that time, he deserved a chance. Our defenders were Oboabana, Egwueke, Omeruo and Yobo. Otigba would have been able to compete.

Balogun did not declare publicly. He was called by Keshi.
Moses was convinced by Siasia.
Aina did not declare publicly.

Sometimes when a player publicly declares the intention to play for Nigeria. They are ignored even when they are good enough to compete.

Story, same Balogun I read his interview when he said if he got an invite from Nigeria, that he would pack his bags the next night jump from Germany via Spain to Morocco? So what about Hope Akpan, Ikeme and Anichebe? About Otigba, we all know whose fault it is and what excuse do u have to give for Dessers? Has he ever been as good as what we already had/have?

U said sometimes when a player publicy declare...I ask again, who were/are these players we ignored? Were/are they good enough? Bar Otigba who Keshi overlooked for his own selfish interest, who else can u mention? Maybe with time u na go still add Derik Osede, Ekpolo et al to the list of ignored guys. So u wan tell me say, we go now ignore a fantastic player like Ojo because he declared publicly? Abeggy jor

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 9:40pm On Sep 23, 2018
Clementoke:
If Seyi Ojo can prove to be as good or better than the RWs we have on ground (thank God, Kalu is in the same ligue 1), he will be invited regardless of this declaration. Rohr no get conscience ni?


Our team is just overflowing with wingers...


We already have three established wingers in Iwobi,Simeon and Musa (they are sure starters as long as they are fit cus they have earned it) Kalu and Onyekuru seem to have gotten the remaining spot for now... Maximum number of players we can invite for a game is 25..

The FB must be given their own fair chance to prove themselves... no preferential treatment...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 9:43pm On Sep 23, 2018
Meanwhile,crazy things are happening in Spain right now grin D'tigress cane back from 7-15 down at 1Q to lead Turkey 44-35 as at 3Q .. This same turkey beat them.some.days ago before d tournament started


Go girls!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:45pm On Sep 23, 2018
I second that grin
komekn:


The issue is not about better.

Considering the players who have been invited then it's a matter of invitation and seeing what they can do in the SE, giving opportunity and a level playing field.

All this old news.

You can check my historical posts on the matter.

In reality the NFF should be engaging with Nigerian origin players known and unknown to create relationship. It's not for them to be declaring intention in the media.


Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 9:46pm On Sep 23, 2018
ChrisKels:


Story, same Balogun I read his interview when he said if he got an invite from Nigeria, that he would pack his bags the next night jump from Germany via Spain to Morocco? So what about Hope Akpan, Ikeme and Anichebe? About Otigba, we all know whose fault it is and what excuse do u have to give for Dessers? Has he ever been as good as what we already had/have?

U said sometimes when a player publicy declare...I ask again, who were/are these players we ignored? Were/are they good enough? Bar Otigba who Keshi overlooked for his own selfish interest, who else can u mention? Maybe with time u na go still add Derik Osede, Ekpolo et al to the list of ignored guys. So u wan tell me say, we go now ignore a fantastic player like Ojo because he declared publicly? Abeggy jor

How many of those players mentioned actually declared for Nigeria, the way Otigba did ?

They were approached and were open to the idea.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:47pm On Sep 23, 2018
They should wait and prove themselves very well enough before they declare abi?

My point is they shouldn’t even declare. Wait for the NFF to come calling. Keep your options open. Yes I said so

ChrisKels:


Otigba and Dessers aint good enough. As for Deji, the only thing delaying his invite is his lack of games for the first team. Deji has never played professional football bfor so it will be stupid inviting him now to the super eagles. As for dessers, it is not as if he is setting the Eredivisie on fire. He even started today and was poor, got subbed off earlier than supposed

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:48pm On Sep 23, 2018
Lol

junnyjake:


Lol! Better run for cover.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:48pm On Sep 23, 2018
forgiveness:


Where was Ekong playing before he got called to the national team?

Without the national team Ekong would be nowhere.


But the same Ekong declared nah abi na lie? He declared and he was invited too, yet ppl are here saying if u declared, u'd be ignored mtcheew

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:51pm On Sep 23, 2018
Eh, how many of them really declared
prior...?

ChrisKels:




No mind people make dem dey peddle lies. Otigba is good and he is playing for one poor team in hungry while his mates are in Serie A(Ekong), laliga (Omeruo). Otigba that was a bench warmer in Turkey where Omeruo and Ekong excelled. Otigba was good and he was relegated to the bench soon after his break through at Heerenveen, he was good yet, no big team came for him from the Eredivisie or anywhere else in Europe.

Dessers, a bench warmer for lowly Utretch is only being praised here because of his skin colour. As bad as Isaac Success is, Dessers aint his match. Can Dessers command a starting shirt in the Eredivisie, let alone the Laliga where Success held sway? Dessers is good, yet he hasn't been able to do what kayode did in Wien abi no be same jupiler league he ran away from that our guys have been tearing up over the years from Onyekuru , to Simon, to Kalu, Olayinka, even Bonaventure etc

Make we no dey glorify mediocrity just because we believe that anything foreign is special.

OLA Aina declared, Balogun declared, Vicmo declared, Ebuehi declared, ikeme et al declared and they got invited. My dear, if u are good, u will get a look in, then u if are better than what we have already, then God dun butter ur bread. KPOM!!!

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 9:55pm On Sep 23, 2018
tbaba1234:


How many of those players mentioned actually declared for Nigeria, the way Otigba did ?

They were approached and were open to the idea.

Who approached Hope Akpan? By the way, my argument aint about saying I wanna play for only Nigeria and not hungary like Otigba did. What I am saying is that, there is no big deal in doing it d way Ojo just did EOD QED.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by maidaboi(m): 9:55pm On Sep 23, 2018
We are in the season of declared

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 9:55pm On Sep 23, 2018
tbaba1234:


At the time, Otigba declared for Nigeria. He was as good as the other options there. He was playing regularly in the Eredivise and rejected an invitation from Hungary. At that time, he deserved a chance. Our defenders were Oboabana, Egwueke, Omeruo and Yobo. Otigba would have been able to compete.

Balogun did not declare publicly. He was called by Keshi.
Moses was convinced by Siasia.
Aina did not declare publicly.

Sometimes when a player publicly declares the intention to play for Nigeria. They are ignored even when they are good enough to compete.


To the best of my knowledge, Balogun declared his intention to play for us before we reached out to him.


Werder Bremen Defender, LEON BALOGUN:It would be an Honour to play for the Eagles
Published: October 17, 2010


The 22-year-old Werder Bremen defender, Leon Aderemi Balogun, has revealed exclusively to allnigeriasoccer.com that it would be an honor to play for Nigeria. The Werder Bremen whiz has been on our radar for some time.He has been likened to the German icon,Guido Buchwald.

https://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=3297

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 9:56pm On Sep 23, 2018
Hahaha.. thank you! I just asked same question.

tbaba1234:


How many of those players mentioned actually declared for Nigeria, the way Otigba did ?

They were approached and were open to the idea.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 9:56pm On Sep 23, 2018
maidaboi:
We are in the season of declared

Have you declared? grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 9:59pm On Sep 23, 2018
TheGoodJoe:



To the best of my knowledge, Balogun declared his intention to play for us before we reached out to him.


Werder Bremen Defender, LEON BALOGUN:It would be an Honour to play for the Eagles
Published: October 17, 2010


The 22-year-old Werder Bremen defender, Leon Aderemi Balogun, has revealed exclusively to allnigeriasoccer.com that it would be an honor to play for Nigeria. The Werder Bremen whiz has been on our radar for some time.He has been likened to the German icon,Guido Buchwald.

https://www.allnigeriasoccer.com/read_news.php?nid=3297



grin I salute Balogun for his patience oo . grin

Declared in 2010,got called up in 2014 and became a full squad member in 2015 .

grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:00pm On Sep 23, 2018
Danielnino00:
Meanwhile,crazy things are happening in Spain right now grin
D'tigress cane back from 7-15 down at 1Q to lead Turkey 44-35 as at 3Q ..
This same turkey beat them.some.days ago before d tournament started



Go girls!!



End of 3rd quarter: NIG-52 vs Turkey-42
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 10:04pm On Sep 23, 2018
Icon4s:


Let him come and Compete. Simple.
Thank you Chief.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:04pm On Sep 23, 2018
Danielnino00:




grin I salute Balogun for his patience oo . grin

Declared in 2010,got called up in 2014 and became a full squad member in 2015 .

grin

No nah, he didnt declare and he was also ignored. Ask them how hope Akpan got his call up
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:05pm On Sep 23, 2018
Haha I like your sarcasm. How about the other players Chriskels implied declared before we approached them?
Danielnino00:




grin I salute Balogun for his patience oo . grin

Declared in 2010,got called up in 2014 and became a full squad member in 2015 .

grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:09pm On Sep 23, 2018
Yes, Onuoha from your village grin
Clementoke:


WE are using Otigba as an excuse. I think he was just not lucky. Also you have to respect the preference of the coach at helm of affairs then. Apart from Otigba, is there any other "good" FB player that was ignored SIMPLY BECAUSE THEY DECLARED?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:14pm On Sep 23, 2018
Joebie:
Haha I like your sarcasm. How about the other players Chriskels implied declared before we approached them?


I believe every coach has his preference... In truth not all foreign born players declared before they got called up but their invitation was largely due to d preference of the coaches in charge then.. Keshi for his own reason chose to ignore Otigba who was in form then but approached Balogun... Rohr is ignoring Dessers who is willing to play for us for some reasons we don't know..
Its not until these FB become exceptionally good before we hand them a call up...but its still up to the coach
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:15pm On Sep 23, 2018
The way Rohr is handling this Foreign born issue makes me wonder the kind of abuse he would be getting if he was a local coach...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheGoodJoe(m): 10:15pm On Sep 23, 2018
Reading's Hope Akpan sets sight on reclaiming Nigerian roots
Published in 23-04-2013


The young England-born midfielder’s career has been exciting till date and his desire is now to play for the national team of his parents' country of birth, the Super Eagles

Reading midfielder and Premier League star Hope Akpan was moved to declare himself available for the Super Eagles—and Stephen Keshi’s revolution could take another major step forward with the inclusion of this exciting young talent.

http://www.goal.com/en-ng/news/4078/exclusives/2013/04/23/3915555/readings-hope-akpan-sets-sight-on-reclaiming-nigerian-roots
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:21pm On Sep 23, 2018
My point is keep playing until u are called up. But before then, keep you preference close to your chest. And you are right about that. Coaches have preferences. Balogun would still have got called up by Keshi had he not declared 4 years earlier. Akpan as well. Its not the declaration that would attract a call up. The declaration could actually result in a delay, knowing the player is always available. But if a player is seemingly wanted by the other country or open to both, it makes the player more attractive. Simple psychological stuff.
Danielnino00:



I believe every coach has his preference... In truth not all foreign born players declared before they got called up but their invitation was largely due to d preference of the coaches in charge then.. Keshi for his own reason chose to ignore Otigba who was in form then but approached Balogun... Rohr is ignoring Dessers who is willing to play for us for some reasons we don't know..
Its not until these FB become exceptionally good before we hand them a call up...but its still up to the coach
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 10:22pm On Sep 23, 2018
Joebie:
They should wait and prove themselves very well enough before they declare abi?

My point is they shouldn’t even declare. Wait for the NFF to come calling. Keep your options open. Yes I said so


So according to ur first paragraph, we should invite unproven players just because they are willing to repp us? Dats what is called mediocrity glorification. Dude we aint that poor and shouldn't be overly desperate.

Yes keep ur options open just like Danjuma and Ojo just did thats my point.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 10:26pm On Sep 23, 2018
My second paragraph explains my position clearly. I know you are intelligent enough to get my overall point.
If you have not performed well enough, what is the point declaring? If you have performed well enough, shouldn’t your performance attract the coach?


ChrisKels:


So according to ur first paragraph, we should invite unproven players just because they are willing to repp us? Dats what is called mediocrity glorification. Dude we aint that poor and shouldn't be overly desperate.

Yes keep ur options open just like Danjuma and Ojo just did thats my point.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by eterisan(m): 10:29pm On Sep 23, 2018
[quote author=darkelf post=71428651][/quote] this Year is Liverpool's year just like every other year... Lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 10:30pm On Sep 23, 2018
charlesemeka85:
his inclusion will add more competition to the team. he have been active in the championship for the past 3 seasons and currently in the french ligue 1 where he have played 3 matches so far.

And that is healthy for the team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 10:30pm On Sep 23, 2018
Danielnino00:



End of 3rd quarter: NIG-52 vs Turkey-42

FT : NIG-74 vs Turkey-68

A win against Argentina will confirm Nigeria spot in the next round..

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