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Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by Navalsadiq(m): 8:29am On Sep 30, 2018
weyreypey:

buhari is going nowhere. Sadly. But I am also happy.... reason... Nigerians deserve him.
am also a buharist but if these is the case then I will change my thoughts
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by Shugavee(f): 8:33am On Sep 30, 2018
AlphaStyles:
So family no go feed abi? person no go buy cloth abi? transportation and nepa bill unkor? so we go dy hungry for 1year bkus of sch fees abi?
that one no get sense

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Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by theoldpretender(m): 8:34am On Sep 30, 2018
maasoap:


With all this corruption flying around? May be, we should all pretend that we don't know what is going on with the VCs and other stakeholders concerning funds. If they like, they should increase it to N1 million naira, it still won't make difference and its impacts will not be felt. It will just be a matter of years before they are back with the noise again.

At the end of the day, it does not matter.

University is not cheap to run. Especially in Nigeria where universities have to now pay for power bills themselves, provide power and water, build new facilities, renovated existent ones, etc.

Corruption exists in Nigeria because Nigerians tolerate it. The day they decide not to, things might get better
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by Nobody: 8:37am On Sep 30, 2018
only a bloody revolution can salvage the damn.n shithole!
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by Nobody: 8:40am On Sep 30, 2018
inoki247:
500k ko. when my kid finish secondary school I will take him or her to Learn a skill acquisition like Tailor, Mechanic, Barber etc. and be giving him or her 500k every year for 4 years with that my kid will be having a 5star workshop instead of wasting my money on the school dat my kid will finish and can't invent ordinary toothpick or Pencil
Oga plan well for ur pikin abeg.... We all know dat u use skills to complement education
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by theoldpretender(m): 8:46am On Sep 30, 2018
Seenyo:
only a bloody revolution can salvage the damn.n shithole!

What are the exact goals and aims of your revolution , and how would it impact Nigerian education?

The problem with you guys is that you think that the pinnacle of education in Nigeria is a nice big university degree with a job in an airconditoned office.

That is why you fight for cheap school fees, negating the fact that it leaves universites chronically underfunded.

If you want a socialist economy, fine. But it won't make things better. A new oligarchy will replace the old...and the funding lacuna will still be there.

If we want free education in Nigeria....we either go the Danish way and take half of every Nigerian's salary for the purpose of adequately funding a budget that includes education, or we keep on taking loans from IMF ....

Or we fast and pray that oil rises to $150 and stays there for the next 20 years....
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by Premiumwriter: 8:48am On Sep 30, 2018
Juliusmalema:


Since most of us spend even more than this to study abroad, why can't we do it here and lift the face this our dead educational system.

Anyway govt can review it down for 250k for arts and 350k for sciences.
most of which people spend more to study abroad


The type of thunder that will scatter your useless and stupid brain eh. Mumu

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Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by Gkemz: 8:50am On Sep 30, 2018
Wicked government proposing anti-people's policies to impoverish the nation. It will not be better for any individual involved in proposing this wicked agenda. They want to deprive Nigerians of affordable education.
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by wickyyolo: 8:51am On Sep 30, 2018
Abdulpro1:

Take the power sector that was privatized as a case study bro, how successful has it been since then?
Even God cnt help us outta this mess we are so deep inside, provided these same set of old men continue recycling in governance, we are doomed
We need a revolution but we all scared to the teeth

We need to open a group for those of us who are ready to Start a revolution.
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by theoldpretender(m): 8:54am On Sep 30, 2018
Free higher education is a myth. There is no such thing anywhere in the world, even in wealthy states like Germany, Finland, Norway and Sweden, which insist that their tertiary education systems are “free”. In fact, higher education in those countries is predominantly paid for by taxpayers. They can afford it. They are rich, socially and economically equitable societies.

Higher education is a resource intensive enterprise. It cannot effectively function without a massive injection of resources in a sustained and escalated way. Professor Bruce Johnstone, a leading US expert in the financing of higher education, has pointed out that:

Higher education cost tends to rise at rates considerably in excess of the corresponding rates of increase of available revenues – especially those revenues that are dependent on taxation.

His description applies well to South Africa’s economic situation and the reality of financial pressures on its higher education sector.

The recent wave of protests at South Africa’s universities has been driven by students’ unrealistic expectations about “free” higher education. The crisis has been deepened by a web of unsustainable solutions posited by the state and tertiary institutions.

Students would do well to look around their own continent to see how unequal “free” education really is.

African lessons
Malawi is one of the poorest countries in the world. It offers “free” higher education in the form of a fully funded government scholarship with absurdly nominal fees.

Research conducted at the University of Malawi, the country’s largest and most prestigious institution, found that most students come from upper and upper middle class families. Around 90% of those at the university could easily afford to pay their own way, but instead are receiving government funding.

That funding is drawn from public funds – so the country’s struggling poor and middle class effectively end up bank rolling the education of those who don’t need the support.

Malawi is an extreme example. But it’s typical across Africa – and for that matter the world – that the majority of university students come from well-off families. This is especially true at the continent’s flagship universities and in its most competitive programmes of study. In many countries, their presence is funded by taxpayers’ money. The poor and middle class are paying for the rich to study. How is that “free” or, indeed, fair?

Sustainability
Interestingly, many African countries that have previously claimed to provide “free” higher education have changed their policies in recent years. Enrolments are rising across the continent. Countries have realised that student growth is outstripping what the economic base can generate in tax revenue. Too many students; too few taxpayers.

In Funding Higher Education in sub-Saharan Africa Professor Philip G. Altbach one of the world’s foremost higher education experts, noted that

Without a stable funding base, neither access nor excellence can be achieved. One thing is clear: the common African pattern of full state funding to a small number of universities no longer works – if in fact it ever did.

Altbach went on to say that “free” university education is simply “unsustainable”.

South Africa is no different from its peers on the continent. Its student population is growing. The cost of running the system is only going to rise, making “free” education even more of a burden.

So what are the alternatives?

The trend
The trend in higher education funding is moving towards cost-sharing where students, parents or guardians, governments and other stakeholders collectively contribute. Uganda, for instance, has seen one of the most dramatic changes in higher education funding. In less than a decade its flagship university, Makerere, shifted the landscape to greatly increase the number of fee-paying students.

Other African countries, among them Kenya and Ethiopia, are consolidating cost-sharing through, among other things, setting up student loan systems, though this has been beset with problems. They have realised that they cannot continue to provide “free” education to their citizens – even the needy ones.

South Africa’s “free” education lobby seems to ignore these realities. Protests at universities are becoming increasingly violent with serious destruction of properties. Elsewhere in Africa, governments manage student unrest by shutting universities down indefinitely. In some cases, such as in Nigeria and Kenya, universities have been closed for months at a time.

Can such a situation be avoided in South Africa? Probably not if students continue to harbour such unreasonable expectations.

A regressive call
It is imperative that universities’ resource bases are both diversified and consolidated. Resources from the government need to be augmented with contributions from businesses, development partners, trusts and foundations, parents and students. They must be supplemented through effective use of resources and cutting back on wasteful spending.


The call for free higher education for all in any deeply unequal society is not just meaningless. It is also regressive and self-defeating. Some pundits and even those in the sector seem to believe that free higher education is possible in the long term. In light of a massifying university system, demographic realities and tightening national budgets, they are dead wrong.

http://theconversation.com/free-higher-education-unrealistic-expectations-unsustainable-solutions-66161
SAUCE:
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by Aniacs(m): 8:57am On Sep 30, 2018
Ehuatamuigunisi:
Good
this 500k is it for the four sessions or just one session?

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Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by theoldpretender(m): 8:59am On Sep 30, 2018
Abdulpro1:

Take the power sector that was privatized as a case study bro, how successful has it been since then?
Even God cnt help us outta this mess we are so deep inside, provided these same set of old men continue recycling in governance, we are doomed
We need a revolution but we all scared to the teeth

1.You can rebel all you want, but it won't solve Nigeria's funding PROBLEM.

We rely on oil, and right now...we need oil to be at $140 per barrel just to balance the budget, without taking loans, or grants.

2.Power was privatized, but DISCOS and GENCOS cannot raise enough money to do anything...and are even owed billions of naira by government agenices and ordinary Nigerians.

And government still controls the pricing of power. (If you were running a business, would you agree for government to tell you to sell your goods at a very low price so that the people of Nigeria can be happy?)

3.What are the goals of your revolution? You can have all the revolution you want....but at the end of the day, it is one group of oligarchs replacing another group of oilgarchs.

4.Techinical education is cheaper than university education. In my opinion, government should hands off university educaiton, and heavily fund technical educaiton....SO THAT...people ,poor people have jobs that actually pay them something...and our industrial development grows too.
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by jmaine: 9:00am On Sep 30, 2018
maasoap:


Your idea is a good one and it's just like what most people here used to say but education is important and it's not that simple to play down. Though, I know that the negotiator was just joking at the worst.

Babalakin was joking? Abeg shut up if you don't have what to say.
Mr Babalakin is at the root cause of the current ASUU impending strike cos he has consistently showed he has the backing of the FG to act God without sense.

Didn't you read that for the past 17 months, he has tenaciously held on to this unimplemetable deceit cos the ultimate end game is to sell off the universities to private interest.
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by wowo2: 9:02am On Sep 30, 2018
theoldpretender:


At the end of the day, it does not matter.

University is not cheap to run. Especially in Nigeria where universities have to now pay for power bills themselves, provide power and water, build new facilities, renovated existent ones, etc.

Corruption exists in Nigeria because Nigerians tolerate it. The day they decide not to, things might get better

Let govt find the money. In a country that doles out over 160,000,000 naira to each Senator every year (outside of actual salary!), education should be funded by the govt. What exactly does Nigeria offer the common man. Merely living in Nigeria is enough sacrifice. The evil of corruption is so horrific and will end the country...that “education bank” bank had better not have people like Saraki etc near it...by the first quarter of 2017, unpaid student loan total was in the region of 100 billion pounds in the UK..i see this as fertile corruption ground for people in governance...slush fund for their shenanigans.

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Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by Codo22(m): 9:06am On Sep 30, 2018
Juliusmalema:


Since most of us spend even more than this to study abroad, why can't we do it here and lift the face this our dead educational system.

Anyway govt can review it down for 250k for arts and 350k for sciences.

i tink yhur mentally deranged ,how stupid of yhu to tink such?m very disappointed with the Igbos on this one,to tink dat dis fool is 1 of yhu guys

Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by guru90: 9:08am On Sep 30, 2018
No naaaaaa..., 500k for what?


Buhari, Continue.... but note this in your evil mind... This world is not a leaving home as permanent home.....

continue....
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by Nobody: 9:09am On Sep 30, 2018
Codo22:


i tink yhur mentally deranged ,how stupid of yhu to tink such?m very disappointed with the Igbos on this one,to tink dat dis fool is 1 of yhu guys

Who ur disappointment epp?
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by theoldpretender(m): 9:12am On Sep 30, 2018
wowo2:


Let govt find the money. In a country that doles out over 160,000,000 naira to each Senator every year (outside of actual salary!), education should be funded by the govt. What exactly does Nigeria offer the common man. Merely living in Nigeria is enough sacrifice. The evil of corruption is so horrific and will end the country...that “education bank” bank had better not have people like Saraki etc near it...by the first quarter of 2017, unpaid student loan total was in the region of 100 billion pounds in the UK..i see this as fertile corruption ground for people in governance...slush fund for their shenanigans.

1. The budget of the NA is 1trillion naira.

While I agree with you that we spend too much on the NA( a relation of mine even thinks we should reduce the whole National Assembly to just two representatives per state)....at the end of the day N1 trillion is just one third of the money needed for our universites yearly (in extra funding by the by).

2.We also don't earn enough money...

We rely on oil. Oil is now at $80 per barrel....but in the last few years it has oscillated between $70 and $30 per barrel. As at 2017 according to Fitch global ratings, we need oil at $140 to get a budget that would meet all our needs. (And the corruption makes things worse.).

And as this quote puts it nicely...
Many people cite the Norwegian example in the argument for free education into post-graduate studies. After all, we are both endowed with vast mineral wealth. This is a false equivalence, as Norway has only 5 million people against its proven crude deposits of 5,366,000,000 BBL, compared to Nigeria’s 170 million people against its proven deposits of 37,200,000,000 BBL. Per capita, Norway is 5 times richer in oil than we are and unlike us, Norway has kept the wealth away in what is now the world’s largest sovereign wealth fund. Norway also has a tax to GDP ratio of 44% compared to Nigeria’s 6%, but let us stick with education. https://guardian.ng/features/law/free-education-is-bad-education/

In other words...for government to keep on sustaining free educaiton...it is either we pay high taxes, take more loans....or raise fees.

Or keep the status quo ante....and education in this country remains half baked.

I finish with another quote...same sauce as above...

Personally, I think we need to move away from this “XYZ Governor enjoyed free education but wants to deprive today’s youth” argument, for many reasons. The first is that, it is a lie! If you go back to our primary and secondary school literature books, the narratives showed villages putting money together to send children to school. Many people were the beneficiaries of some sort of grant or scholarship and had to drop out if things got tough back home. The second is that the annual N90 my mother paid to attend University of Ibadan in the 70s, was worth much more than the same N90 I was charged, in the 90s. That sort of system is not sustainable.

It is this free system that ensures that the best of our brains are lured away by more competitive salaries and opportunities, to contribute to the body of knowledge. It is this free system that ensures that there has been no major scientific or engineering breakthrough (of the kind that can withstand the robust and rigorous scrutiny of international peers) in any of our universities. It is this free system that makes the Ghanaian educational system more attractive to Nigerian parents, who can’t afford the US-Europe route. This same ‘free everything’ is why we don’t have technicians and artisans with proper skills.
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by our9ja: 9:13am On Sep 30, 2018
Hmmm school 500k fee ?Back then in Uniben around 2007 I paid 7k for school fees
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by bigfather(m): 9:13am On Sep 30, 2018
theoldpretender:


1.Is university degree a mark of education?

2. Nigeria is a poor country. And corruption of the elite makes it worse.

3.Countries with free education like Denmark fund it by taxes that chop 50% of your annual income. USA funds it by hefty student loans that have to be paid back.

4.Can we afford 3trillion on just university?

5.At the end of the day, we will end up taking loans, just to keep education free.

Let us be realistic. Either oil goes above 140uad per barrel, or we pay high fees or high taxes.

If they can take loan for infrastructural development,then it shouldn't b a problem if they can for education.
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by theoldpretender(m): 9:15am On Sep 30, 2018
bigfather:


If they can take loan for infrastructural development,then it shouldn't b a problem if they can for education.

I have no objection to that...but seeing how Nigerians have been grumbling over the years whenever government takes a loan......

I hope you don't grumble too when government takes a loan for unviersity educaiton...and keeps on taking the loan because....universites are cash guzzlers....even when there is zero corruption.
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by longerthroat(m): 9:16am On Sep 30, 2018
500k a year, excluding accommodation, text books, feeding, miscellaneous, by 4 years. .. I kuku go open shop for Alabaster. the outcome is fantabulous

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Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by abem: 9:16am On Sep 30, 2018
nigeria my dear country oneday u will break lossss from d people that has been holding u back. God have merci
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by emperorblog(m): 9:21am On Sep 30, 2018
lalanice:
Tchwww school that does not guarantee success angry angry

Waste of time and money.

Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by sexyanyabubakar(f): 9:24am On Sep 30, 2018
theoldpretender:


1.You can rebel all you want, but it won't solve Nigeria's funding PROBLEM.

We rely on oil, and right now...we need oil to be at $140 per barrel just to balance the budget, without taking loans, or grants.

2.Power was privatized, but DISCOS and GENCOS cannot raise enough money to do anything...and are even owed billions of naira by government agenices and ordinary Nigerians.

And government still controls the pricing of power. (If you were running a business, would you agree for government to tell you to sell your goods at a very low price so that the people of Nigeria can be happy?)

3.What are the goals of your revolution? You can have all the revolution you want....but at the end of the day, it is one group of oligarchs replacing another group of oilgarchs.

4.Techinical education is cheaper than university education. In my opinion, government should hands off university educaiton, and heavily fund technical educaiton....SO THAT...people ,poor people have jobs that actually pay them something...and our industrial development grows too.

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Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by Nobody: 9:27am On Sep 30, 2018
theoldpretender:


What are the exact goals and aims of your revolution , and how would it impact Nigerian education?

The problem with you guys is that you think that the pinnacle of education in Nigeria is a nice big university degree with a job in an airconditoned office.

That is why you fight for cheap school fees, negating the fact that it leaves universites chronically underfunded.

If you want a socialist economy, fine. But it won't make things better. A new oligarchy will replace the old...and the funding lacuna will still be there.

If we want free education in Nigeria....we either go the Danish way and take half of every Nigerian's salary for the purpose of adequately funding a budget that includes education, or we keep on taking loans from IMF ....

Or we fast and pray that oil rises to $150 and stays there for the next 20 years....
lorry load of crap! the shithole is damn too rich not to provide free education at all levels!..... the impetus is to exterminate all bunch of senile, redundant, avaricious / kleptos!
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by Spells(m): 9:29am On Sep 30, 2018
They are trying to kill education in Nigeria by this increment, thereby diplomatically making Boko Haram(education a sin) in Nigeria.
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by AlphaStyles(m): 9:30am On Sep 30, 2018
Shugavee:
that one no get sense
At all see the way e dy think like fish
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by AlphaStyles(m): 9:31am On Sep 30, 2018
Juliusmalema:



Family planning will be of great help.
watin concern family planning with ASUU?
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by theoldpretender(m): 9:32am On Sep 30, 2018
sexyanyabubakar:
......

1.The power problem is beyond politics...so I fail to see the relevance of your response....especially as I don't support APC bruv.

2.The DISCOS and GENCOS were a GEJ innovation (and one which I supported by the way).

3.The law enabling the establishment of DISCOS and GENCOS also empowered government to set prices for power....which means the DISCOS and GENCOS cannot earn enough money to make the needed improvements.

4.Fashola spoke with a lack of knowledge about the power sector.

5.Besides...experts say we need $900BN over the next 30 years to fix power .

6.We need to start improving funding by increasing the amount we spend on power....and that means HIGHER POWER BILLS.

7.We pay less for power than Liberia, Sierra leone, Ghana, Cameroon, etc....even Malawi...and we expect 24/7 light?
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by theoldpretender(m): 9:33am On Sep 30, 2018
Seenyo:

lorry load of crap! the shithole is damn too rich not to provide free education at all levels!..... the impetus is to exterminate all bunch of senile, redundant, avaricious / kleptos!



Good luck, comrade. Just don't come complainig when you run out of money. cool
Re: ASUU Rejects N500k School Fee Proposal For Public Universities by sexyanyabubakar(f): 9:38am On Sep 30, 2018
Abdulpro1:

Take the power sector that was privatized as a case study bro, how successful has it been since then?
Even God cnt help us outta this mess we are so deep inside, provided these same set of old men continue recycling in governance, we are doomed
We need a revolution but we all scared to the teeth

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