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. by Xavier5(m): 12:14pm On Sep 30, 2018 |
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Re: . by Shelumiel: 12:20pm On Sep 30, 2018 |
It seems you do not agree with Paul. So here is my advice : tear that part of your bible since it is sounds harsh to your own understanding. |
Re: . by Xavier5(m): 12:41pm On Sep 30, 2018 |
Shelumiel: With all due respect, OKAY SIR. #Xavier.
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Re: . by tintingz(m): 2:30pm On Oct 18, 2018 |
I think you're trying to twist the Bible passage, it's well known in the Jewish patriarchal era that women are like second class humans. Even in the Jewish creation myth, Eve was created out of Adam's tiny rib, there's no equality there. Cc. Xavier5 3 Likes |
Re: . by Ihedinobi3: 2:38pm On Oct 18, 2018 |
My comment is rather rushed right now but without going into your developed arguments, I wish to say that there is a bigger issue here: It is indeed true that the Bible does not allow that women should teach men but it goes further: men who do not possess the gift of teaching are not allowed by the Bible to teach anybody either. Even further is this, men who possess the gift of teaching but who are still spiritual neophytes, that is, immature in the Faith, ought not to teach either. Do you see how large the problem we have today is? Women teachers are just a fraction of the issue. In my experience, you would be one of a very small minority if you attend a church where the male pastor is both gifted as a teacher and properly prepared to do the work of teaching. 1 Like |
Re: . by Dantedasz(m): 5:35pm On Oct 18, 2018 |
Christians always try to wriggle out of the inconsistencies and contradictions of their Bible. The other day one was trying to confuse himself about the omniscience of God and free will. The OP of this thread can wriggle all he wants but he can't get away from the commandments of Saul/Paul who actually was the founder of Christianity. You may like to watch this video that quotes passages in the Bible that show that Christianity has a total lack of regard for women and is a sexist book. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1JIKOMQV5A 1 Like |
Re: . by Dantedasz(m): 5:59pm On Oct 18, 2018 |
Re: . by Xavier5(m): 8:49am On Oct 20, 2018 |
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Re: . by LordReed(m): 9:17am On Oct 20, 2018 |
Xavier5: The Bible was written by unsophisticated patriarchal men, it is clear and evident. Hand waving away all the shortcomings in the book just shows how prepared you are to defend bullshit. 1 Like |
Re: . by Dantedasz(m): 9:29am On Oct 20, 2018 |
Xavier5: Interesting. I await your thread before I will reply you. Please give me a mention when you open this thread. By the way please no endless rambling. Straight to the point. Back your thread with quotations from your Bible. I am gonna enjoy this. |
Re: . by Xavier5(m): 12:22pm On Oct 21, 2018 |
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Re: . by Xavier5(m): 12:29pm On Oct 21, 2018 |
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Re: . by LordReed(m): 12:33pm On Oct 21, 2018 |
Xavier5: LoL. Okay open the thread let's show you just how uninspired the book is. Meanwhile you cleared nothing, you just made assertions without demonstrating them to be true in anyway. |
Re: . by Xavier5(m): 12:48pm On Oct 21, 2018 |
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Re: . by sulasa07(m): 1:56pm On Oct 21, 2018 |
Xavier5:Was there a Female among the 12 disciples |
Re: . by Xavier5(m): 4:23pm On Oct 21, 2018 |
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Re: . by sulasa07(m): 5:32pm On Oct 21, 2018 |
Xavier5:Go ask him na,I believe you should be able to speak with Jesus since you are both children of the same Father. |
Re: . by Xavier5(m): 2:24pm On Oct 22, 2018 |
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Re: . by enilove(m): 3:24pm On Oct 22, 2018 |
Xavier5: God can decide to call a woman to pastor a church if there are no men capable or willing to carry out the assignment . I think a woman who should go for such assignment , in my opinion : Must have gotten consent of the husband . Must not be a nursing mother . Must not neglect or deligate her responsibilities at home as a wife . Must be filled with Holy Spirit. Must be matured in age. Can be a widow who has dedicated her life totally to the work of God. That is what I think , but God knows it all and why women are now becoming Pastors and church leaders contrary to the scriptures. 1 Like |
Re: . by Ihedinobi3: 1:16pm On Oct 23, 2018 |
enilove:God honors His Word above His Name. That means that it is impossible for the Lord to violate His Own Word. He said through Paul that women should not hold authority over men because Eve was deceived and not Adam. That does not mean that a woman cannot reach fellow women. But it is only men to whom God gives the gift of teaching the Church. That has not changed. |
Re: . by enilove(m): 5:06pm On Oct 23, 2018 |
Ihedinobi3: Yes , God honors His words , but at times , God can decide not to honor some of His words depending on the situations . For examples : GOD WORD WAS THAT HEZEKIAH SHALL DIE , BUT GOD DECIDED NOT TO HONOR THAT WORD . Isaiah 38:1-5 KJV In those days was Hezekiah sick unto death. And Isaiah the prophet the son of Amoz came unto him, and said unto him, Thus saith the Lord , Set thine house in order: for thou shalt die, and not live. [2] Then Hezekiah turned his face toward the wall, and prayed unto the Lord , [3] And said, Remember now, O Lord , I beseech thee, how I have walked before thee in truth and with a perfect heart, and have done that which is good in thy sight. And Hezekiah wept sore. [4] Then came the word of the Lord to Isaiah, saying, [5] Go, and say to Hezekiah, Thus saith the Lord , the God of David thy father, I have heard thy prayer, I have seen thy tears: behold, I will add unto thy days fifteen years. DEBORAH WAS A JUDGE AND A RULER OVER MEN IN ISRAEL AND GOD WAS WITH HER : DEBORAH Judges 4:4 KJV And Deborah, a prophetess, the wife of Lapidoth, she judged Israel at that time. WHAT ABOUT A WIDOW WHO SERVED THE LORD IN THE SYNAGOGUE : Luke 2:36-38 KJV And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Aser: she was of a great age, and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity; [37] And she was a widow of about fourscore and four years, which departed not from the temple, but served God with fastings and prayers night and day. [38] And she coming in that instant gave thanks likewise unto the Lord, and spake of him to all them that looked for redemption in Jerusalem. God can decide to use anyone as long as the person is cable and able. Based on this , most men are more capable are available , which makes the scriptures correct and intact. |
Re: . by Ihedinobi3: 5:18pm On Oct 23, 2018 |
enilove: This argument is very unfortunate. The only safety that a believer has in this world is the confidence that he can trust the stability of the Bible. To doubt the Bible or create any sort of reason to is to cut the ground off from under your own feet. God has a right to change a judgment or decree that He has made. He Himself said to Ezekiel that if He pronounced calamity against a nation or against a person for their wickedness and that nation or person repents, He would reverse it. This is a completely different situation than the command that God gave to Paul concerning the Church. Now, even if we were to admit your argument in this regard, there is the question: where did God change His Word in the Bible regarding this? Of course He never did. So it is an assumption on your part on the basis of what you see around you that you assume that God has changed His Command in this regard. As for Deborah and Anna, the situation under the Mosaic Law was different than the situation under the New Covenant. The Calling out of the Gentiles into the Church of God is a different situation than when God dealt with Israel alone as His People. |
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