pazienza:


What you are doing, is akin to the wife who caught her husband with another woman, and decided to beat the woman, while absolving her Man of all blames. Not minding the fact that it was the husband who wooed the lady in the first place

If Onitsha and other Umuezechima towns don't go about shouting about how they migrated from and are Ancestrally Bini people, and their kings sniffing around the ass of Oba of Bini. The Bini people wouldn't be twisting the story of those towns.
They are willing accomplices to the Binis. The Bini are only reaching out to them, because they were the ones who started flirting with Binis. You would be biased if you are going to start blaming Binis for this.
Ask yourself, why is Bini not claiming or twisting the stories of Ogidi or Obosi? It's simple, we are not flirting with them by druming about ancestral Bini origin everyday. It takes two to tangle.

This is why I don't hold back when discussing about them(Anioma), neither do I let emotions becloud my judgement, whenever I'm dealing with issues concerning Anioma or Ikwerre/Ekpeye/Ogba.
I say it as it is.

Pazienza, I know that a lot of people don’t like your brutal honesty and bitter truth but it's really appreciated by some of us. If we are ever going to become one United igbo people, we have to learn to start telling ourselves the truth.

pazienza:


Another one is Uhu/Uru/Ulu.

It actually means home. It's the old Igbo word for Ulo/Uno.

All over Igbo towns, you see villages named Uhu/Uru, Uhuagu/Uruagu, Uhuorji/Uruorji, etc.

Uruagu /Uhuagu would translate to home founded in a thick Forrest, Uhuorji/Uruorji is home founded beside an Orji tree.

There's this interior part of Azumini where my mum comes from that they call Uhu! This is distinct from other parts of the town like the cottage hospital.

So Uhu actually means 'home'? I guess you learn something new every day!

mightguy:
ofcos i knw. They are proud igbo people. All of them... We are jst trying to tell our Chima descendants over there in Delta that Chima is a popular name over here in the east even Onicha...

Ok noted. But no offence to anyone, people should trace their origin based on community names not on concorted fairy tales that has no basis.

ckenneths:
"This is Agbor"......

Never knew Agbor was this cosmopolitan!

It's more built up than some state capitals in the north, and could easily pass for a state capital in its own right!

Xander85:


There's this interior part of Azumini where my mum comes from that they call Uhu! This is distinct from other parts of the town like the cottage hospital.

So Uhu actually means 'home'? I guess you learn something new every day!

The place we call uhu in our village is a shrine

Xander85:


There's this interior part of Azumini where my mum comes from that they call Uhu! This is distinct from other parts of the town like the cottage hospital.

So Uhu actually means 'home'? I guess you learn something new every day!

Yes. Uhu means home. Infact, while Uhu had been reduced to just names of places in other parts of Igboland. In Isuikwuato dialect , Uhu is still used in everyday conversation , in lieu of ulo.

odogwu125:

The place we call uhu in our village is a shrine

Probably the shrine was beside the first place of settlement of the progenitor of the kindred, village or town, as the case may be. Before his children(descendants) dispersed to other places nearby, to found new homes and start up their own families. Perhaps, the shrine is all that is left of their original Uhu.
Just a hypothesis.

G

letu:
Then you should know that Igbo people from Anambra/Enugu area of Igbo Land are 90% acolyte/devotees of Eri centric school of thought.

Very false school of thought.
No be only 90%.

horsepower101:


Pazienza, I know that a lot of people don’t like your brutal honesty and bitter truth but it's really appreciated by some of us. If we are ever going to become one United igbo people, we have to learn to start telling ourselves the truth.

Dalu, nwannem.

pazienza:
Biko, ka Anyi gba mbo hu na anyi gbachiri onye mere post nor na enu nkem a, nkiti.

I ji okwu, udo diri gi nwannemmadu.

odogwu125:

Zik was able to seize leadership because he had constitutionally recognised region. With the already balkanized igboland, it may not be easy. Ekwueme did great by the emergence of geo-political zones. Gradually these zones are getting recognition. Our work now is how to make the zone recognised by constitution (restructuring). Then an igbowide grassroot political revolution can occur. As for igbos outside the region, they will be naturally attracted to us by the time we start getting things right plus they will not like to be minorities in the newly empowered region. A move for boundary adjustment will ensue. After that, international alliance for outright secession

Pazienza, what's your take on my proposal here

InyinyaAgbaOku:
G

Very false school of thought.
No be only 90%.

Not just Eri alone but Areli and Arodi sons of Gad have towns similar to their names in igboland

pazienza:


What you are doing, is akin to the wife who caught her husband with another woman, and decided to beat the woman, while absolving her Man of all blames. Not minding the fact that it was the husband who wooed the lady in the first place

If Onitsha and other Umuezechima towns don't go about shouting about how they migrated from and are Ancestrally Bini people, and their kings sniffing around the ass of Oba of Bini. The Bini people wouldn't be twisting the story of those towns.
They are willing accomplices to the Binis. The Bini are only reaching out to them, because they were the ones who started flirting with Binis. You would be biased if you are going to start blaming Binis for this.
Ask yourself, why is Bini not claiming or twisting the stories of Ogidi or Obosi? It's simple, we are not flirting with them by druming about ancestral Bini origin everyday. It takes two to tangle.

This is why I don't hold back when discussing about them(Anioma), neither do I let emotions becloud my judgement, whenever I'm dealing with issues concerning Anioma or Ikwerre/Ekpeye/Ogba.
I say it as it is.

After these ones the next people we should be wary about are the so called Lagos Igbos (yorubaland Igbos). Many of them (not all) have strong psychological issues of inferiority complex. They will do anything to ingratiate themselves with yorubas even if it is against Igbo interest example Joe Igbokwe.

pazienza:


Another one is Uhu/Uru/Ulu.

It actually means home. It's the old Igbo word for Ulo/Uno.

Pazienza, I won't totally agree with you on this one, uru and uhu mean two different things from ulo or uno. Pls do more research on these. I know of two different towns in Imo state that bear Uhuala and Uruala but the people still use Ulo as the word for house.

pazienza:


If Onitsha and other Umuezechima towns don't go about shouting about how they migrated from and are Ancestrally Bini people, and their kings sniffing around the ass of Oba of Bini. The Bini people wouldn't be twisting the story of those towns.
They are willing accomplices to the Binis. The Bini are only reaching out to them, because they were the ones who started flirting with Binis. You would be biased if you are going to start blaming Binis for this.
Ask yourself, why is Bini not claiming or twisting the stories of Ogidi or Obosi? It's simple, we are not flirting with them by druming about ancestral Bini origin everyday. It takes two to tangle.

you are correct bro

For oba in anambra... We ave uruagu. Uruokokwu. Urueze.... echetara echetara

odogwu125:

Not just Eri alone but Areli and Arodi sons of Gad have towns similar to their names in igboland

No be only Areli and Arodi.
Let they keep disgracing their ancestors

mightguy:
For oba in anambra... We ave uruagu. Uruokokwu. Urueze.... echetara echetara

What's the meaning of Uru there? Uru I know in Igbo means benefit or fattened meat (uru anu).

pazienza:


Probably the shrine was beside the first place of settlement of the progenitor of the kindred, village or town, as the case may be. Before his children(descendants) dispersed to other places nearby, to found new homes and start up their own families. Perhaps, the shrine is all that is left of their original Uhu.
Just a hypothesis.

Now you've explained it, it's all adding up and making sense! That place i mentioned is the oldest part of Azumini!

B2mario:
What's the meaning of Uru there? Uru I know in Igbo means benefit or fattened meat (uru anu).

i jst asked my mum and she talk say she know know.. But I will ask my granny. I go call her

Zik was able to seize leadership because he had constitutionally recognised region.

Zik had his own struggles. The regions were limited in power, they were quasi regions, as they all had white governor general who they reported to. Compare it to the quasi Federal system we practice today, where almost everything is controlled by those who run Abuja.
The constitution then, the McPherson constitution was rigged against the indigenous people by British, the regions were powerless. Rather than resign to fate and say that the constitution can't be fought against, like IPOB are doing today. Zik got involved in the government, launched a frontal attack on those parliament members in the East who were feeding fat from the current constitution then, paralyzed the government and won, replaced them with his own henchmen, and held the British at the jugular, forcing them to re negotiate the McPherson constitution.

The end result was that the almighty Britain had to review the McPherson constitution and replaced it with the lyttleton constitution, which granted more powers to the regions. Notice that Zik ultimate goal was Independence, yet he was in 1950 fighting for more power to be granted to the regions. He fought it in tiny bits, watering down the British influence gradually and patiently, before going for the real deal.

You see, Zik met similar problems we are dealing with today.
1. Strong oppressor (British)
2. Internal collaborators who wish to retain the system for their selfish interests ( the politicians)
3. An unfavorable constitution.

How did he go about surmounting these obstacles?
He secured the home front first, by going after the number 2. Once that was done, the rest fell in place.

Anyone who seek to liberate Ndiigbo today, must first tackle the number 2, ie our current political jobbers and office holders. There is no two ways about this.

With the already balkanized igboland, it may not be easy. Ekwueme did great by the emergence of geo-political zones.

Igboland was balkanized for the first time in 1938 by Bernard Bourdillion, who took Western Igboland and joined to Lagos colony(SW) to form western region.

So you see, Zik also had to deal with the issue of balkanization of Igboland. But he focused more on uniting us all under one political party and ideology under NCNC, working closely with Dennis Osadebey, and it was only a matter of time before we pulled Western Igbo out of Western region, and created a Midwestern region for them. If Nzeogwu and co didn't mess things up, it was also a matter of time before the East merged with Anioma.

So you see, instead of crying over British cunning game of diving to conquer us, Zik wielded political solidarity as a veritable tool, to unify us and rendered the regional lines, redundant. This is what IPOB ought to be doing, and not crying over SS.

If we have a unified political system and party totally controlled by Ndiigbo, manned by highly intellectually radicalized Igbos who are patriotic to the Pan Igbo agenda, holding atleast 90% of all elective posts in the entire Igbo speaking areas from Anioma to upland Igboid Rivers. I assure you the geo political boundaries would be the least of our headaches, they would be rendered redundant, and would naturally fall on their own.

Gradually these zones are getting recognition. Our work now is how to make the zone recognised by constitution (restructuring). Then an igbowide grassroot political revolution can occur. As for igbos outside the region, they will be naturally attracted to us by the time we start getting things right plus they will not like to be minorities in the newly empowered region. A move for boundary adjustment will ensue. After that, international alliance for outright secession

Good ideas, but everything starts with getting involved in the political process of the SE, toppling our current crop of political jobbers who are comfortable with the current oppressive system and who are feeding fat off the current state of things, while the masses suffers.

Uru or Uhu exists in most Igbo towns. We have Uhuafor and Uhuagu in my town.

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B2mario:
What's the meaning of Uru there? Uru I know in Igbo means benefit or fattened meat (uru anu).

Urueze. Eze's home. It means that the progenitor of that compound was a man by the name, EZE. All parts of Urueze are decendants of Eze's home/compound.

Urueze in that case means Eze's family.

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B2mario:
Pazienza, I won't totally agree with you on this one, uru and uhu mean two different things from ulo or uno. Pls do more research on these. I know of two different towns in Imo state that bear Uhuala and Uruala but the people still use Ulo as the word for house.

I still believe Uru/Uhu means home.

See, language evolves. That's why we have synonyms. They also absorb foreign words.

Uhu/Uru and Ogwa, are synonyms and Old Igbo words for home .

Uhuala can mean a house that is at a lowland/valley/plain, as against others that are in a hilly place.
Perhaps the people once lived in a hilly environment, but latter found a much level ground than their previous abode. And in appreciation, named the place, accordingly.