EbolaParasite:


Unless you get a permanent resident card of whatever nation you choose before leaving Nigeria, DO NOT ATTEMPT IT. You will regret it. Stay in Nigeria. Out of the people that did what you are proposing only a select few made it/ended up being up. Some people can no longer see their families because either the husband was refused a visa to come back in or deported. You do not want to be an Illegal in any country. I repeat, FORGET IT. Only do it if you have permanent residency of that county/Immigrant visa before leaving Nigeria. You have been warned. There are Nigerian families that are homeless in various countries all over.

Did you not see the recent videos of families leaving the U.S, crossing over to Canada? Do not attempt it. Enjoy what you have in Nigeria. In Nigeria, you have family and friends that will take you in when katakata bursts. Abroad, you will be rendered homeless in less than 24 hours because everyone minds their own wahala.

THANK YOU. I'm not against migration. Just do it the proper way. The problem is a lot of our people do not have the means to come here legally.

ASPIREX:
A little background to aid your objectivity.....
I am a 47 year old Nigerian with a 43 year old wife. Married 13 years. Three kids; 12, 9 and 6.

I have a degree in humanities while she has a HND in Admin.

We are both involved in hustling in Lagos, Nigeria. The hustle hasn't paid off big time yet but we get by with about 3- 5 Mill earnings annually. We used to do much more than that until 3 years ago.

I have had significant international exposure having lived in UK as a child and also bisited all continents in the last 5 years.

If reaching and beating Dangote and Adenuga's wealth is your aim,you better stay back here in Nigeria and continue managing what you have and be thinking of how you can make more.
if living a convenient life and plotting same for your children is your aim,you can move to any of these countries you have in mind.
Living abroad does NOT BRING YOU FORTUNE except you are a rare PROFESSIONAL,going by what you have laid out here don't waste your time,money and effort in relocating it doesn't worth it.

EVILFOREST:

Thank God say you know them.
HEAVY AKATA people.
They can make someone pay for CHILD SUPPORT forever. I saw many of them.
Some wanted me to get them pregnant, I vanished.
SEXX means nothing to them.
It’s like serving one Kolanut on first visit.
I cherish my WIFE beyond a precious stone.
Your success in the US depends largely on the kind of woman you marry

I don't get the message.

When you go to use them for marriage and get green card. They'll ask you to get them pregnant in turn. For What?

And is the sham marriage usually long-lasting?

EVILFOREST:

Dem Many naaaa
Just enter CHURCHES on Sunday naa
Go to St. Eugene at Imperial Highway, LA, Carlifornia.
Dem many there, even TEXAS.
Catholic Church to be precise.
I am an Anglican but wedded her in the catholic. She agreed to follow me to any church even if na shrine.
Send me a MAIL, containing
What you do..??
Where you hail from...?
Just be honest, because any LIE means “osondu” ooo and no forgiveness.

Lol.. No forgiveness na their motto my Bro.
I attend winners at 900 Rosecrans Avenue LA, CA and I've been trying. I'm not this social type though.
I'll send a PM so I could get your number, and probably meet you on Sunday.

ASPIREX:
To emigrate or not is the question here.

I need very mature advice and inputs as regards a situation I am trying to resolve.

In the last two yearsI have been thinking seriously about relocating my entire family abroad but I am still held back by indescision.

Just this afternoon I made a decision to throw it open on Nairaland Travel section. I am sure the mature contibutions that flow forth here will help me to a large extent to take a final decision on which direction the pendulum swings.

Please note that my wife is indifferent as per where we are. She just wants us to be together peacefully. She is also not a very ambitious person inthe ense thay she does not really aspire to be Folorunsho Alakija or Dangote's wife. She is very satisfied with being an average, comfortable upper middle class citizen anywhere in the world provided there is peace.

I am the money man with a lot of ambition and an undying aspiration to beat (or at least compete favourably with Aliko Dangote.

if you have the means,it is quite ok. If efforts put in here in Nigeria is done in places like Canada , UK America etc it etc will yeild far fetched results. However no matter how comfortable one may be abroad try not to forget Nigeria. Uay put up some structrure in a good area and come for vacation once a year or there about. He is home

majekdom2:
re read his post!

you are supposed to do that because you are encouraging him to stay when it is in his best interest to leave.

Your kid owe you a better life, better live dis shithole

chijokz:

Move your whole family asap to Melbourne, Australia and you will come back and thank me...same advice I gave 3 good friends 3 yrs ago and they call me every month from Melbourne and Sydney to show their gratitude.

how do I get the whole process started to Australia... I'm a Nigerian practising medical doctor

Timi1990:


Dem Igbo brother trying to network for babe parole

My brother you won't understand

Funnicator:


I don't get the message.

When you go to use them for marriage and get green card. They'll ask you to get them pregnant in turn. For What?

And is the sham marriage usually long-lasting?

The BLACK AMERICANS don’t like to work.
Especially the Ladies. So knowing how powerful they are and you being interested in Green Card, they will lure you to marry them or sleep with them.
After which, the gates of HELL will be let loose.
In AMERICA when such happens, the Father of the child will always send cash to the MUM for the up keep of that child until the child is 18 years old.
From this U keep, the Black American Mum can decide to take care of herself while you work your life out.
So, imagine having 3 kids with such a lady..

Very Very very very very painful experience

At 47 to be honest with you immigration will be challenging and to get a job as well. Your experience and degree will mean naught there. But I dont think its fair to put your entire family under that kind of risk. Its too big a risk to take. Why not sponsor your children to school there and possibly PR after for them if you want a "better" future for them. You will blow through 7 million in one year in Canada with your entire family if you dont get a job. Nobody will tell you then if you have to do menial job or not. Everything is a risk.Some people get lucky and get a job right away . But we must also remember that some people do not. If you were 30 now and single then I can advice you to go there and hustle and see how things are looking after 5 yrs. But with so many dependents, even getting enuff points under express entry will be super difficult also considering your age. But all in all I wont ever advice anyone not doing too bad in Nigeria and with wife and children to come here except they are ready to do menial job if things dont go as they planned to support their family. And please for God's sake, if you do decide to come, please dont come on a visiting visa. PR or Greencard(however you wanna get that) or nothing.My 2 cents.

wickyyolo:
Good luck to those that want to relocate permanently to Canada.

I Dunno why people don't see the Hidden opportunities in Europe.

Like where in Europe? Please enlighten me

Babyvet:


Lol, you think its that easy. You have no idea what you are talking about. I'm a registered nurse. There are no master speciality courses like ICU. ICU is intensive care unit, thats a hospital unit. Tell me why an organization would file for here, which includes them spending more money and time to file for her. When there are many American born and foreigners with their papers trained in this country who are ready to work. Not saying that job sponsorship does not happen theses, but its mostly for people with extraordinary talents not for basic skills that can be acquired locally.

You are a registered nurse but u don't know more about your field.

You better wake up.

Many organizations are doing it.

The most sought after nursing specialties are:

ICU
Anaesthetic
Cardiology


And if you have any of them, then your future as a nurse is bright.

Curry30:


Honest answer. Relocate with your entire family.
Nigeria is a terrible place to raise kids with the deteriorating moral and socio-economic conditions.

Countries you should look into:

1. Sweden - low crime, good healthcare
2. Netherlands - Multi cultural society
3. Canada - all the good reasons
4. Switzerland - low crime, thriving economy, multicultural society

Pls consult your wife. Nigeria is a NO-NO!

As someone that have lived in Sweden and currently living in the Netherlands, there is practically no way you can migrate with your family to an EU country unless you have their citizenship. Regulations regarding migration to EU countries are regulated by the European union, and each countries as a rule, transpose EU directives into their national legislation. I cant think of any provisions in EU legislations that permit migration.

If he was young and single, then option abounds. As one grow older, it becomes difficult to immigrate as all the route that people usually uses to migrate becomes obsolete (student, work permit, marriage).

If you are rich and can register a LLC in EU countries like Hungary or Lithuania, you can be granted a residence permit for you and your family and potentially becomes citizens in 5 years.

LadyHeaven:



Like where in Europe? Please enlighten me

Europe is dead, don't dare.

The only European countries still manageable are:

Germany
Switzerland

All others are a no go area. Their citizens aren't finding it easy talk more of an immigrant, anyway, it depends on your dream in life sha but Europe is no longer cool for immigrants.

UK is okay for a health related professional going there with full work visa

I'm interested in relocating to Canada. I don't have much of a job experience, I've always done diffident businesses over the years.

However I have a brother that's a professor in University of Western Ontario. In what way can this be an advantage.

I should ask my brother, but he's practically like to white guy now (left immediately after secondary school) and has no idea about such things. He merely tells me to go find out myself.

Can one get one work permit visa to Canada.

Whatever you decide, do it legally. I'm loving the fact that UK hasn't been mentioned in this thread.#HostileEnvironment

EVILFOREST:

The BLACK AMERICANS don’t like to work.
Especially the Ladies. So knowing how powerful they are and you being interested in Green Card, they will lure you to marry them or sleep with them.
After which, the gates of HELL will be let loose.
In AMERICA when such happens, the Father of the child will always send cash to the MUM for the up keep of that child until the child is 18 years old.
From this U keep, the Black American Mum can decide to take care of herself while you work your life out.

Very Very very very very painful experience

Man, you become a cashcow to her while she stays at home and earns dollars every month for being a baby mama.

Baby mama is an occupation in the US, I don't understand why male movements are weak in the US and don't do shiit to counter this sad norm that's been passed into law.

Sex by mutual consent, you get pregnant. You have a child. And I pay all the bills. But no law mandating you to as well pay a fraction for the upkeep of the child.
The father is the role responsibility carrier of the child. And yet they scream to the top of the heavens they are equal to men.

Such equality

I can raise between 7 - 10 Million (and more) if given 24 months.
No offense what can of job are you into if u can rise such amount in 12 months if you are not a politician?

Contumely:


Some families earn less than 500k annually.

That is why over 70% of the people are only existing and not necessarily living.

Chascop:


Lol.. No forgiveness na their motto my Bro.
I attend winners at 900 Rosecrans Avenue LA, CA and I've been trying. I'm not this social type though.
I'll send a PM so I could get your number, and probably meet you on Sunday.

Since you already know them.
U really need a Good and cheerful woman.
I will HELP to the best of my ability and knowledge.
Based on Trust, don’t tell me LIES.
What tribe to be specific..??
Do you know south west college, in LA..

franchasng:
You are a registered nurse but u don't know more about your field.

You better wake up.

Many organizations are doing it.

The most sought after nursing specialties are:

ICU
Anaesthetic
Cardiology


And if you have any of them, then your future as a nurse is bright.

Please go and sit down. I know very well about my field. You are clearly not in the field. Thats how Nigerians go around spreading lies about nursing when they have not worked one day in the field. There are many speciality in nurses, you don't have have to work in those listed to be successful . List 10 organizations that have success rates of sponsoring foreign nurses to get their green card.

You are better off where you are, stay there and make it work.

franchasng:
Europe is dead, don't dare.

The only European countries still manageable are:

Germany
Switzerland

All others are a no go area. Their citizens aren't finding it easy talk more of an immigrant, anyway, it depends on your dream in life sha but Europe is no longer cool for immigrants.

UK is okay for a health related professional going there with full work visa

Thanks brotherly, I am interested in NZ, Aussie or Canada, may God bless my plans. Amen

majekdom2:
Abraham departed his father’s country at 70. Lols. All age range is covered. It only depends on the motivation and vision

You can't compare the lifespan of dem old testament people with now o. 70 of then is like 20 yes old of now. The op is no longer a young man, the stress and everything won't be good for his health. He should send his kids over there to study. I have relations with kids over there and they only visit them from time to time.

ASPIREX:
A little background to aid your objectivity.....
I am a 47 year old Nigerian with a 43 year old wife. Married 13 years. Three kids; 12, 9 and 6.

I have a degree in humanities while she has a HND in Admin.

We are both involved in hustling in Lagos, Nigeria. The hustle hasn't paid off big time yet but we get by with about 3- 5 Mill earnings annually. We used to do much more than that until 3 years ago.

I have had significant international exposure having lived in UK as a child and also bisited all continents in the last 5 years.

The first question is: can you support your family of 5 with your degrees abroad? Typically, to get a well-paying job, you will need to "re-qualify" by attending schools abroad. Until then you will need to hustle. Also keep in mind that humanities don't pay that well - even for Americans, so you'll be at a disadvantage. Be realistic and do research on salaries that people are earning, based on their degrees. This is not hard to come by: indeed.com is very useful.

2. Is it possible to grow what ever you're doing so you can double your income to 6-10mil/year from 3-5? With the money you will need to relocate 5 people (plane tickets, 6-12 months living expenses while you're looking for work, etc), you can vastly improve your business instead of subjecting your family to a difficult move and strenuous move with no guarantee that you'll net positive for several years.

3. Your oldest is 12. I think it's much better for children to receive Nigerian education until they are ready for University. That's when educating them abroad has the best value for the money. That means you have 6 years of continuing to grow your business/hustle. They will have Nigerian values and work ethic, then take that attitude and excel. It's rare that children brought up abroad from childhood become as driven or as successful as their parents.

4. At then end of the day, you actually have a higher chance of making it big in Nigeria, than if you move abroad at this stage of your life. You have a support system here, which you won't have when you move. We all know many Nigerians who can vacation to UK, US, Dubai several times a year, travel to bear their children abroad, pay for schools abroad, and buy property abroad... all with cash. On the other hand, I can't think of too many Nigerian-Americans who can boast of owning their home without loan, or who can afford the cost of childbirth without insurance or that can even travel more than once a year.

MajorJeffery:
I will be very honest with you since you want an honest suggestion and I'll be using my location as example. If you move with your family to the States without any of you having green card or citizenship, read my lips, you'll suffer and most likely will regret it. This your peaceful family will experience a serious crack and trust me, women aren't built to endure too much suffering so your wife may throw in the towel along the line . If you're coming to hustle, come here as a single man, hustle and go get your family though it will take time but that's the best way.

Gospel truth said herein.This soo called tight family will experience a crack once the wife is through with her nursing programm and gets certified.Trust American women, they will now teach the wife the American way of life.
For me, you can try Canada, OR at your age and the comfort you have, with the income both of you get, my advise is for you to hang in Nigeria or still, travel alone first.

I was having a discussion with my Tanzanian colleague the other day about Africans migrating to Europe and North America. We both appreciate the good sides of living in Europe and North America, but we made these observations.

1. You are never good enough in the eyes of many white people. They hardly respect you if you are made their boss and you are a black man or black woman.

2. You will pay bills till you grow into your late 60's and 70's and if you default on your Mortgage, your house will be taken from you, irrespective of the monies you have paid earlier on.

3. You will pay water bills for life in Europe and USA, Canada etc but if you dig your own borehole in Nigeria, the water is yours and you don't have to pay for it.

4. Your kids don't belong to you in the white man's countries. They belong to the Government. You can't punish your kids anyhow for any offences they might have committed. The Police will come banging on your door if you do that .

5. Nigerian women change into Monsters as soon as they enter Canada, USA, UK etc with you. They start claiming equal rights with you after some Months and you will soon see their true character .

6. Many Africans focus on white collar jobs in Europe, USA, Canada, Australia etc while being blind to the opportunities that lie in jobs they consider as being dirty or beneath their status. My Tanzanian friend wondered why many Africans are not looking into being tradesmen like Carpenters, Painters, Plumbers. Gas Engineers, Cleaning Business Owners etc in the white man's countries. He noted that these 'dirty' industries are gold mines.

7. Black People are the targets of immigration policies in the white man's land.

8. Racism is ingrained in the white man's blood. He might like you but he still believes you are inferior to him. And he will let you know this in different ways.

9. Even though they live in advanced nations, Africans still long for their countries of Origin and follow events in their native countries everyday.

10. Lastly, we both agreed that in the long run, Africans should man up and fix their Continent. Cheers.

Chascop:

My brother you won't understand

Abeg me self I need Igbo babe ooo, with big ukwu . Help a brother

ASPIREX:
To emigrate or not is the question here.

I need very mature advice and inputs as regards a situation I am trying to resolve.

In the last two yearsI have been thinking seriously about relocating my entire family abroad but I am still held back by indescision.

Just this afternoon I made a decision to throw it open on Nairaland Travel section. I am sure the mature contibutions that flow forth here will help me to a large extent to take a final decision on which direction the pendulum swings.

Please note that my wife is indifferent as per where we are. She just wants us to be together peacefully. She is also not a very ambitious person inthe ense thay she does not really aspire to be Folorunsho Alakija or Dangote's wife. She is very satisfied with being an average, comfortable upper middle class citizen anywhere in the world provided there is peace.

I am the money man with a lot of ambition and an undying aspiration to beat (or at least compete favourably with Aliko Dangote.

try the Canadian express entry into am also about to try that too...we sure have same travelling plans..Let's keep in touch

Babyvet:


Lol your naive and ignorant. Go look up the definition of racism. What going in Nigerian is totally different from what going on in the Us or Canada. I don't have to talk too much , just google it yourself.

Racism and tribalism are related. In the one you are prejudiced because of your race while in the other because of your tribe. At the end of the day, the content of the treatment is almost the same.

You both are legally responsible for the child's upkeep, not just the man, and no child support agency will garnish more than the 25% of your wage at least in red states.

Funnicator:


Man, you become a cashcow to her while she stays at home and earns dollars every month for being a baby mama.

Baby mama is an occupation in the US, I don't understand why male movements are weak in the US and don't do shiit to counter this sad norm that's been passed into law.

Sex by mutual consent, you get pregnant. You have a child. And I pay all the bills. But no law mandating you to as well pay a fraction for the upkeep of the child.
The father is the role responsibility carrier of the child. And yet they scream to the top of the heavens they are equal to men.

Such equality