Babyvet:


Please some spreading lies and face Nigeria. You are very very ignorant and naive. You think see they dey give green card any how. If that was the case , there would be no illegal immigrants. Those who need not heed to my advice would be the same ones asking for help with job and shelter when they come here and get stuck. As the op said, he is looking for mature and LEGAL advice.

There are ways. But u won't know it till u try. Those obsessed with what's written down will not even try. The thing is, the ways will not show themselves till u put yourself in the process. Where there is a will there is a way. Don't let yourself be discouraged from even trying.

Timi1990:


You better find out from people in New Orleans, Mississippi, Alabama & Arkansas, some places worse pass Makoko

LIE. The worst part of this places will still look better than, say, Ikeja

WetinConsignMe:


There are ways. But u won't know it till u try. Those obsessed with what's written down will not even try. The thing is, the ways will not show themselves till u put yourself in the process. Where there is a will there is a way. Don't let yourself be discouraged from even trying.

Once again, you no idea what you are talking about. What other ways can one get a green card that have not been listed. , please list them for the OP.

ASPIREX:
A little background to aid your objectivity.....
I am a 47 year old Nigerian with a 43 year old wife. Married 13 years. Three kids; 12, 9 and 6.

I have a degree in humanities while she has a HND in Admin.

We are both involved in hustling in Lagos, Nigeria. The hustle hasn't paid off big time yet but we get by with about 3- 5 Mill earnings annually. We used to do much more than that until 3 years ago.

I have had significant international exposure having lived in UK as a child and also bisited all continents in the last 5 years.

Your decision should be based on personal conviction and not just because you hear people are making big bucks in foreign countries. Because you can make it big anywhere in the world.
If you are convinced relocation is the best option, weigh the pros and cons. Then look for what is high in demand in the country you are prospecting so you can supply by sourcing it from naija. Do this as a side hustle to supplement your paycheck till it grows enough for you to build a business from it

Babyvet:


Once again, you no idea what you are talking about. What other ways can one get a green card that have not been listed. , please list them for the OP.

First of all, depending on what part of US u r in (sanctuary cities) u can live and and work happily in US without papers. Secondly there are lawyers and immigration employees whose purpose in life is undermining US immigration laws. These things will not appear till u try.

WetinConsignMe:


There are ways. But u won't know it till u try. Those obsessed with what's written down will not even try. The thing is, the ways will not show themselves till u put yourself in the process. Where there is a will there is a way. Don't let yourself be discouraged from even trying.

Nobody is discouraging from coming, he wants to come , let him come now. In fact everybody that wants to come, should come. Canada and US will welcome all of you with open arms.

murphyibiam15:

wao..that's cool...can you send me your email so I can get across to you? so you can connect me to the travel agent?..that's if you wont mind..thanks

Be very very careful. I'm not saying this is a scam but this same format was used in scamming my cousin earlier this year.

If you are truly serious about relocating, visit the travel section. You will see some threads about migrating to Canada and Australia through the federal programs being offered by the countries. Read the threads and ask questions.

You lack imagination.

Let me leave you.

And for your information my first trip out of Nigeria I was 2 yrs old.

And I have NEVER stopped travelling.

InvertedHammer:

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She gets visas and travel with her whole family. They land in Canada. She claims assylum. She starts earning money immediately with her skill since a job is not the only way to make money

You never mentioned accommodation and other immediate challenges.

How do you define delusion? You fit the profile of those that get lured with fairy tales into crossing Sahara desert. SMH

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MARKETfund:


I have consistently read your comments on this thread and noticed that you really wanna make a move but you don't know how. What more, age is on your side. You need to consult a professional travel agent to get the right information so as to help you make an informed decision.

There is this Agent I know based in Warri (I've never met him in person though but have his contact. Knew him through my fiancee's family). He is the one that helped her elder sister and two younger brothers get admission in Canada two years ago and her admission in UK. The man is good!

I tested him out with my younger sister and her hubby (they wedded last month) early this year and now they are expecting their visa in coming days. Waiting expectantly to see if they'll be given Canadian visa. Mind you they both are going with student visa but may not really pursue education at the moment. Mt inlaw has a friend who wants to put him in a job while his wife (my sister) studies.

Can i email you for the agent's number please

WetinConsignMe:


First of all, depending on what part of US u r in (sanctuary cities) u can live and and work happily in US without papers. Secondly there are lawyers and immigration employees whose purpose in life is undermining US immigration laws. These things javascript:void(0);will not appear till u try.

Once again, you lack of compression.Did you read the OP post, he does not want to be illegal. The Op is looking to migrate legally and you are talking about ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION. But okay, which jobs do those illegals have access too, please tell me. Are they working in Wall Street, own top legal firms or are they medical doctors? Do you live at home or in the US or any other Western society?

Im so following this thread. Thanks for bringing up the topic

Babyvet:


Lol, look at how our people were dying to go Libya and got themselves into slavery. May delusion not kill our people. Someone even ,mentioned Mexico. Why would someone got to Mexico when even Mexicans are running away from their own country.

that person that mentioned Mexico really made me laugh. 2 years for that matter i die for 9ja be dat

queengift:
why not try Ireland

pls what does it take to settled down there as a young man with family heard that things are expensive compare to US

Babyvet:


Okay and which jobs do those illegals have access too, please tell me. Are they working in Wall Street, own top legal firms or are they medical doctors? Did you read the OP post, he does not want to be illegal. Do you live at home or in the US or any other Western society?

I was reacting to your directing hom to only pay attention to what's written on the websites. My point is, don't let what's written down as the rules discourage u. Once u start ways usually appear that u never knew were there. Imagine someone abroad worrying about what's stated as the rules in Nigeria when in reality with a bit of bribery anything is possible.

browncool:
Who said you are limited to menia jobs here in Canada as an Immigrant is lieing to you. I came here only 6 months ago with my family and after doing some little training, I am now working in the health sector and you can make up to $4k or far more than that in a month if you truly want to. Beside, you will have best free education for ur kids, all kinds of free compulsory Medicare in all ramificationsl. My brother all the good things people talk about Canada is really true.

Were you in the Healthcare industry before moving to Canada?

majekdom2:
in all your arguments you have avoided the successful young folks making news in Nigeria that I mentioned. Again, don’t just advice someone to leave without considering his background. Immigration assessment check your background to help determine if you are fit. They won’t come with the “oh leave, America is great” story you are painting here. I am wondering why the 10 you know aren’t on Forbes list yet

Urgh! Said I will not respond here we go!

I did not ignore the successful people in Nigeria, just because it’s hard to succeed in Nigeria even if you have the right tools to succeed elsewhere, doesn’t mean there aren’t people that succeed in Nigeria despite the obstacles. Wouldn’t it be silly to say there are no successful Nigerians? Even a broken clock is right twice a day!

To be honest I never answered the OP’s question I kind of derailed the thread, I NEVER said the OP should leave Nigeria because he will ALWAYS make it in America. I was replying someone that said as a Nigerian you can’t be a millionaire/billionaire in the US, unless you go back to Nigeria and used Otedola and Dangote as example.

As it is with life, not everyone will make it in America and not everyone will fail in Nigeria. If you come to America with the mindset of making quick money or not working hard for your money, you are going to FAIL there is no miracle. Some people have what it takes to make it in Nigeria, while the same formula will not work in America. However, you cannot deny that there are more opportunities to be successful in a country not designed for you to fail, even if you don’t have a pedigree or a lot of money.

Forbes dosent have a millionaire’s list rightfully so, because it is not rare ( like just 2,000 billionaires in the world) so I was referring to millionaires as I stated in my last reply. There are many millionaires walking about in the US.

bros at 47 with wife and kids DO NOT ATTEMPT IT and most importantly go to TB Joshua church to pray that the witches in ya village that is about to lead you on this path of destruction should be destroyed with holy ghost fire. there is a reverse brain drain and everybody is running back to africa. the west is falling. they wont even give you a job in the west at 47. they like their workers looking young and vibrant. there is ageism in the west, once you reach 50 they sack you. unless you are a specialist like an oncologist or some medical guru. so you at 47 ? there is no job for you in the west. unless you dont mind sweeping macdonalds or security work or driving taxi

Timi1990:


Please I need your advice on how to convince a spouse on relocating your kids to Nigeria particularly when your spouse is a USA citizen or PR who haven’t been to any part of the world except the USA . Please I need your honest advice on this

I am going to base my answer with the assumption that your "spouse" is a wife.

What every mother wants is the safety and well being of their children. While Nigeria can be a place that can help make US born kids realize the opportunities in the US, it can also be a dangerous place for these kids. This is why a lot of women frown against relocating their children to Nigeria.

So, first thing is the mother needs to be convinced that her child/children will be safe, and that the undertaking will be in the best interest of the kid(s).

But please, if you must send your kids to Nigeria for schooling, you MUST have an unwavering support from your wife, and you should start first by having the kids visit Nigeria, with your wife, once a year, for at least three years. It makes it easier on the little ones.

TheNaijanBlog:


Urgh! Said I will not respond here we go!

I did not ignore the successful people in Nigeria, just because it’s hard to succeed in Nigeria even if you have the right tools to succeed elsewhere, doesn’t mean there aren’t people that succeed in Nigeria despite the obstacles. Wouldn’t it be silly to say there are no successful Nigerians? Even a broken clock is right twice a day!

To be honest I never answered the OP’s question I kind of derailed the thread, I NEVER said the OP should leave Nigeria because he will ALWAYS make it in America. I was replying someone that said as a Nigerian you can’t be a millionaire/billionaire in the US, unless you go back to Nigeria and used Otedola and Dangote as example.

As it is with life, not everyone will make it in America and not everyone will fail in Nigeria. If you come to America with the mindset of making quick money or not working hard for your money, you are going to FAIL there is no miracle. Some people have what it takes to make it in Nigeria, while the same formula will not work in America. However, you cannot deny that there are more opportunities to be successful in a country not designed for you to fail, even if you don’t have a pedigree or a lot of money.

Forbes dosent have a millionaire’s list rightfully so, because it is not rare ( like just 2,000 billionaires in the world) so I was referring to millionaires as I stated in my last reply. There are many millionaires walking about in the US.

go back and read the post the person who used Otedola and Dangote quoted before you come with mentions. The OP said he has an ambition to be like or close to Dangote and thinks that relocating elsewhere at 47 will help achieve this ambition. I came with an argument that it’s easier to become Dangote in the US if you migrate at an early age. Go read again. No one says you can’t make it in The US. The post is about the chances for a 47 year old without any business idea

WetinConsignMe:


I was reacting to your directing hom to only pay attention to what's written on the websites. My point is, don't let what's written down as the rules discourage u. Once u start ways usually appear that u never knew were there. Imagine someone abroad worrying about what's stated as the rules in Nigeria when in reality with a bit of bribery anything is possible.

You clearly live in Nigeria and have no idea what you are talking about . No one in their mind would recommend anyone to come here illegally . I’m sure they are many illegal immigrants would find money give to someone to make them legal immigrants , if it just involves some bribery. It’s not that easy . Abeg stay home and face Buhari and leave these matters to people who actually live here and know there system.

majekdom2:
Ghana is visa free to SA now but they shut their embassy to Nigerians some weeks ago. The young, middle and old all want to travel out in search of greener pastures. Phewwwww! What a nation!

Nigerians are the most desperate set of people. You will see people doing well and tell you that their friends have travelled and that they are working towards leaving also.

While are other Africa countries not like Nigeria? 75 percent of PR seakers from Africa are Nigerians. Once you hear that your friends have travelled, you start making your own arrangements without even knowing the reason why your friends travelled or why you want to travel.

Desperation. Having the thoughts that those that have left are better than you and you will be desperate to leave also. You would not want them to be better than you

WetinConsignMe:


LIE. The worst part of this places will still look better than, say, Ikeja

No need to argue, just check google.com and see the list of ghetto neighbourhood in those places I mentioned, you go fear

ottizz:


I am going to base my answer with the assumption that your "spouse" is a wife.

What every mother wants is the safety and well being of their children. While Nigeria can be a place that can help make US born kids realize the opportunities in the US, it can also be a dangerous place for these kids. This is why a lot of women frown against relocating their children to Nigeria.

So, first thing is the mother needs to be convinced that her child/children will be safe and, that the undertaking will be in the best interest of the kid(s).

But please, if you must send your kids to Nigeria for schooling, you MUST have an unwavering support from your wife, and you should start first by having the kids visit Nigeria, with your wife, once a year, for at least three years. It makes it easier on the little ones.

Thanks for the advice I really appreciate

VULCAN:
You lack imagination.

Let me leave you.

And for your information my first trip out of Nigeria I was 2 yrs old.

And I have NEVER stopped travelling.

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I live in the village.
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There are only two solutions to your questions sir...
1 is to stay back and hustle for your children to school abroad
2. Is to pack your stuffs into Canada right now.... At least you have the money, I don't see what's there to contemplate...... Forget this people discouraging you from moving... No suffer go reach the one wey you Don see for naija
NB... I havent traveled outa the country, not for once (hoping by God's grace) but I understand that the USA is a no no no...... Especially under trumps administration, would be a waste of money.... Base on your background, it will be very easy to travel to Canada with your family

Laird:



Please read carefully what I wrote. Simple comprehension but let Me break it down; Without Canadian Degrees in a labour/ skill/ worker shortage occupation and Canadian experience, It would be almost impossible to get a Middle class paying job in Canada.

Canada does not recognize Professional qualifications from third world countries. Even Nigerian medical professors and specialists do not have their nigerian degrees and qualifications accepted or recognized for practice or medical work in Canada.

If You have another opinion, let the thread know


Canadian University education and Canadian work experience like internship is what is generally most times accepted by Canadian employers for middle class Canadian jobs

Ok there is element of truth in your comment but let's be careful how we Nigerians like to make arguments with very strong opinion unless you are 100% sure that you are accurate.

1) It is not impossible to get a decent job in Canada with a foreign degree, that's just not true and this is a myth being thrown around by a lot of people. It depends on what you studied and how you positioned yourself, if you were a banker in Nigeria, you must be flexible to take a job different from what you were doing in Nigeria e.g some kind of analyst in an insurance company or similar sector and ready to learn new skills very fast.

A friend of mine moved to Canada directly from Nigeria and he got a job in less than 6 month in Saskatchewan. All his education was from Nigeria, he worked in the financial sector in Nigeria.

Another also came in 2016 all education from Nigeria, also financial sector experience, landed in Calgary, got a job within a year he is now a business analyst also in Saskatchewan, it took him that long because he did not stay back, he was spending most of his time in Nigeria to keep his Nigeria job until he found a job in Canada. All you need to do is evaluate your education and get as a proof that it is up to Canadian standard. I did it and interestingly, no employer ever asked to see proof of evaluation of my education. Not bragging, I work for big brands as a consultant.

I am not using my self as an example because I have European education and work experience before moving here. If I compared myself and those guys, nothing make me different in what we have all achieved or will still achieve.

Your other point on Canada not recognizing professional education from 3rd world countries, well not exactly, they just want to be sure that you are truly qualified and put you through tests before letting you handle people's lives. Now the the licensing process for medical professional has being relaxed than it was before and it is worth the hassle because the pay is very good.

In other specializations such as I.T Accounting/Financial services, engineering etc, why would anyone do certification that is not internationally recognized? And if you did, all you need to do is update your certification with the ones that is recognized. It will only take you a couple of months to get most certification that you think will help you.

If I go into Nigerian gatherings any day, virtually everyone is doing fantastic with their jobs and their lives. Although this is because most Nigerians in Canada have good immigrant status and that is the key but I only discuss your argument here which is about whether or not your Nigerian education is recognized and based on that, you will not have good jobs. I say that is not true.
It depends on you.

planetx:
Liar which NY is it that one out of every three person is a dollar millionaire, you people should fear God now with this lies.

I will not insult nor exchange words with you.
I still remain a widely traveled, exposed, educated and an enlightened Nigerian.
I have visited almost all the states in Nigeria.
I have visited a few in the US.
I have visited a few in Europe.
But I have never seen any as WEALTHY as NEW YORK CITY.
I am making plans of embarking on a trip to the Arab world.
I Love visiting places, it’s one of my hobbies.
It will be demeaning on my part to exchange words with you.
I believe, we are in a world whereby your PHONE is now a global village. Why not pick up your phone and politely ask google...??
Meanwhile see this.....

Focusmind:


Nigerians are the most desperate set of people. You will see people doing well and tell you that their friends have travelled and that they are working towards leaving also.

While are other Africa countries not like Nigeria? 75 percent of PR seakers from Africa are Nigerians. Once you hear that your friends have travelled, you start making your own arrangements without even knowing the reason why your friends travelled or why you want to travel.

Desperation. Having the thoughts that those that have left are better than you and you will be desperate to leave also. You would not want them to be better than you

desparation instead of innovation, competition instead of motivation. I said it before the leaders are only a reflection of the majority. We cannot develop beyond the mental capacity of the majority. I am surprised a man who has been to almost all the continent in the last 5 years can’t clearly define what to do with his life

planetx:
Liar which NY is it that one out of every three person is a dollar millionaire, you people should fear God now with this lies.

U may be Living in the US, may be somewhere in the state of UTAH, WISCONSIN or Colorado but it’s obvious you don’t know NEW YORK.
Let’s make arrangements.....
I will invite and HOST u for a week.
U will see things for yourself.
CALIFORNIA comes second especially San Francisco in LA, and that’s why their minimum wage is higher.
NURSES are better paid in CALIFORNIA and New York
LA is the home of entertainment and madness.
CALIFORNIA is like Cross River state/ Enugu State, remains an expensive town to live in.
NEW YORK is like Lagos, a state for the good, the bad and the ugly. Business Moving like WIND

WetinConsignMe:


They are averages.

Google: Average annual salary of a lawyer in 2018?

The Bureau of Labor Statistics reported the average annual salary for a lawyer in 2016 to be $139,880. This works out to be around $11,656 per month on average.

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I hope you know that in calculating averages, one very high number or low number can distort the average.

A makes N100k
B makes N60k
C makes N20K
D makes N10k
E makes N700k

Based on the data shown, the average income of this group is N178k. But then, look at the data again. Only one person makes the cut. That is 20%. Isn't application of statistics funny?

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Grupo:


Be very very careful. I'm not saying this is a scam but this same format was used in scamming my cousin earlier this year.

If you are truly serious about relocating, visit the travel section. You will see some threads about migrating to Canada and Australia through the federal programs being offered by the countries. Read the threads and ask questions.

OK..thank you so much..I appreciate

Focusmind:


Nigerians are the most desperate set of people. You will see people doing well and tell you that their friends have travelled and that they are working towards leaving also.

While are other Africa countries not like Nigeria? 75 percent of PR seakers from Africa are Nigerians. Once you hear that your friends have travelled, you start making your own arrangements without even knowing the reason why your friends travelled or why you want to travel.

Desperation. Having the thoughts that those that have left are better than you and you will be desperate to leave also. You would not want them to be better than you

Not only desperate , unrealistic and ignorant . Nobody should be conparing themselves with Dangote , he is not an average joe whether in Nigeria or America. He part of the 1 percent. Nigeria is not the only third world in the country but Nigerians like to make the loudest noise . Look at this thread , many people shouting about abroad that they have never stepped foot into . Some are even advising illegal immigration just to enter into the U.S