chiiichiii:


Is it advisable to start the processing myself or get an agent?

Agent is good, if you don't have an idea or time. I sent u a mail.

EVILFOREST:

U may be Living in the US, may be somewhere in the state of UTAH, WISCONSIN or Colorado but it’s obvious you don’t know NEW YORK.
Let’s make arrangements.....
I will invite and HOST u for a week.
U will see things for yourself.
CALIFORNIA comes second especially San Francisco in LA, and that’s why their minimum wage is higher.
NURSES are better paid in CALIFORNIA and New York
LA is the home of entertainment and madness.
CALIFORNIA is like Cross River state/ Enugu State, remains an expensive town to live in.
NEW YORK is like Lagos, a state for the good, the bad and the ugly. Business Moving like WIND

But guess what , the cost of living is higher.

browncool:
Who said you are limited to menia jobs here in Canada as an Immigrant is lieing to you. I came here only 6 months ago with my family and after doing some little training, I am now working in the health sector and you can make up to $4k or far more than that in a month if you truly want to. Beside, you will have best free education for ur kids, all kinds of free compulsory Medicare in all ramificationsl. My brother all the good things people talk about Canada is really true.

Working in the healthcare sector doing what?

ttmax09:
that person that mentioned Mexico really made me laugh. 2 years for that matter i die for 9ja be dat

Lol, not only Mexico , they should have recommended Iran or Afghanistan. Silly people .

stagger:


There is more racism in Nigeria than in any of these places you mentioned.

I was in a taxi in PH some time ago when a passenger was ranting at how Igbos have spoiled the Garden City, and stated that she would have no problems deporting every Igbo person from the state if she was a governor. I have heard such several times in Bayelsa, Oyo, and in many states I have been to in Nigeria. I have even been in Enugu and overheard in an office a discussion between two men of how they (the Enugu people) were being oppressed by an Abia man (who was head of that agency) and how they would fight him to the end until he packs his bags back to the Abia village he came from. This is Igbo to Igbo hatred. What can beat that?

I don't even want to mention the fact that Hausa is the official language spoken in a federal parastatal such as NEMA. As if we have nothing like federal character in this country (indeed, have we ever had it?).

So all this talk about racism abroad is not strange to us. It is here in Nigeria among us. So anyone who can survive the ethnic-based racism we have here in Nigeria can survive it abroad.

yea

you got that right

stagger:


There is more racism in Nigeria than in any of these places you mentioned.

I was in a taxi in PH some time ago when a passenger was ranting at how Igbos have spoiled the Garden City, and stated that she would have no problems deporting every Igbo person from the state if she was a governor. I have heard such several times in Bayelsa, Oyo, and in many states I have been to in Nigeria. I have even been in Enugu and overheard in an office a discussion between two men of how they (the Enugu people) were being oppressed by an Abia man (who was head of that agency) and how they would fight him to the end until he packs his bags back to the Abia village he came from. This is Igbo to Igbo hatred. What can beat that?

I don't even want to mention the fact that Hausa is the official language spoken in a federal parastatal such as NEMA. As if we have nothing like federal character in this country (indeed, have we ever had it?).

So all this talk about racism abroad is not strange to us. It is here in Nigeria among us. So anyone who can survive the ethnic-based racism we have here in Nigeria can survive it abroad.

May GOD bless You.
If you want to leave NIGERIA, please leave.
Don’t mind those discouraging you.
After all the Chinese/ Indians/ Brits/Americans are all tourists everywhere.
U see them hang cameras down their necks traveling round the world to appreciate GOD’s creation.
No Vacation in Nigeria even when Given your manager would not let you have it in peace.
That’s why we look malnourished and perpetually angry, sorry to say

Babyvet:


Lol your naive and ignorant. Go look up the definition of racism. What going in Nigerian is totally different from what going on in the Us or Canada. I don't have to talk too much , just google it yourself.

he has a point..


Racism has two distinct thing's

institutions and ability

White folks used to oppress blacks SO SO much because they could

They lynched them because they could

Civil rights came and limited the scope of oppression to the black man, and of course racism still exists today, limited to the scope of what they can do.


Nigerians on the other hand also practise racism in their own way, within the scope of power that they have

Like denying you a job bevause of your ethnic group

Like denying a certain part of the country they'd entitlements because you don't like them

Like killings in the NE because of religious differences

Like being extremely wicked to you because of your ethnic group

Heck!
Nigerians even killed the ethnic group in their numbers when they saw the opportunity to in the run up to the pogrom and civil war
The list is endless

The racism in Nigeria and America is the SAME

What limits it is the scope of power available to oppress or deal ruthlessly with those you hate

For many Nigerians; if they had the ability to lynch, loot, deny employment to, or just deal ruthlessly with those from that side of the country that they hate, they will do it.


so my sister, it's the SAME THING


but most of you don't get it

Ugosample:


he has a point..


Racism has two distinct thing's

institutions and ability

White folks used to oppress blacks SO SO much because they could

They lynched them because they could

Civil rights came and limited the scope of oppression to the black man, and of course racism still exists today, limited to the scope of what they can do.


Nigerians on the other hand also practise racism in their own way, within the scope of power that they have

Like denying you a job bevause of your ethnic group

Like denying a certain part of the country they'd entitlements because you don't like them

Like killings in the NE because of religious differences

Like being extremely wicked to you because of your ethnic group

Heck!
Nigerians even killed the ethnic group in their numbers when they saw the opportunity to in the run up to the pogrom and civil war
The list is endless

The racism in Nigeria and America is the SAME

What limits it is the scope of power available to oppress or deal ruthlessly with those you hate

For many Nigerians; if they had the ability to lynch, loot, deny employment to, or just deal ruthlessly with those from that side of the country that they hate, they will do it.


so my sister, it's the SAME THING


but most of you don't get it

I get it very well, you just don’t .good day

This is strong truth. If you hear some people's incredible stories your mouth will open. Not everyone has the same gruesome experience

WetinConsignMe:


There are ways. But u won't know it till u try. Those obsessed with what's written down will not even try. The thing is, the ways will not show themselves till u put yourself in the process. Where there is a will there is a way. Don't let yourself be discouraged from even trying.

EVILFOREST:

May GOD bless You.
If you want to leave NIGERIA, please leave.
Don’t mind those discouraging you.
After all the Chinese/ Indians/ Brits/Americans are all tourists everywhere.
U see them hang cameras down their necks traveling round the world to appreciate GOD’s creation.
No Vacation in Nigeria even when Given your manager would not let you have it in peace.
That’s why we look malnourished and perpetually angry, sorry to say

you have a point

specialty the angry part

EVILFOREST:

May GOD bless You.
If you want to leave NIGERIA, please leave.
Don’t mind those discouraging you.
After all the Chinese/ Indians/ Brits/Americans are all tourists everywhere.
U see them hang cameras down their necks traveling round the world to appreciate GOD’s creation.
No Vacation in Nigeria even when Given your manager would not let you have it in peace.
That’s why we look malnourished and perpetually angry, sorry to say

Nobody is stopping them , infact everyone that’s want come should hop on the nearest flight . The us and Canada would welcome with open arms.

Babyvet:

I get it very well, you just don’t .good day

you don't
you really don't

good bye

Babyvet:


You clearly live in Nigeria and have no idea what you are talking about . No one in their mind would recommend anyone to come here illegally . I’m sure they are many illegal immigrants would find money give to someone to make them legal immigrants , if it just involves some bribery. It’s not that easy . Abeg stay home and face Buhari and leave these matters to people who actually live here and know there system.

Funny u. Twisting things. Where did I recommend illegally? I said he should not listen to u about going on only what's on the website. I said he should not be discouraged from even trying based on what's written

Babyvet:


Below is statistics of immigrants visa from each catergory from each country, from last year.

https://travel.state.gov/content/dam/visas/Statistics/AnnualReports/FY2017AnnualReport/FY17AnnualReport-TableIII.pdf

As you would see, only 201 Nigerians got immigrant visa though employment compared to the 3831 from immediate relatives and 2235 from family preference. Mind you the number did not break down the employment catergory but regardless it still supports my claim that is not that easy.

Like I said earlier, no way is easy and I gave you that link to show that people are migrating through that route eb3 from Nigeria contrary to your initial stances.

Again, if you look at the percentage of approval of each category of those that got the immigrants visa, am pretty sure employment based would higher even with that 201. Because how many nigerians even aware that you can get eb3 visa directly from here talkless of actually applying. That is employment visa category for nigeriand is always current in visa bulletin.

So, nurses(also I.T) is still in shortage skills in US where foreigners are being sought after, and Nigerians are no exception.

Babyvet:


Again, look up the definitions, of racism and tribalism , and how it works. Research is your best friend. But you guys should leave that topic alone and face the topic thread.

Why do you presume I did not know the definitions of racism and tribalism. Mind you, I didn't say they are the exact same thing.

WetinConsignMe:


Funny u. Twisting things. Where did I recommend illegally? I said he should not listen to u about going on only what's on the website. I said he should not be discouraged from even trying based on what's written

Oh boy , go read your post again, u said there other ways to migrate . I asked you to mention them and u mentioned illegal immigrants in sanctory cities and bribery.

BrightFuture48:


Like I said earlier, no way is easy and I gave you that link to show that people are migrating through that route eb3 from Nigeria contrary to your initial stances.

Again, if you look at the percentage of approval of each category of those that got the immigrants visa, am pretty sure employment based would higher even with that 201. Because how many nigerians even aware that you can get eb3 visa directly from here talkless of actually applying. That is employment visa category for nigeriand is always current in visa bulletin.

So, nurses(also I.T) is still in shortage skills in US where foreigners are being sought after, and Nigerians are no exception.

The number do not lie , Nigerians some denying the truth when it’s infront front of you .

dochenaj:

Why do you presume I did not know the definitions of racism and tribalism. Mind you, I didn't say they are the exact same thing.

Abeg stop trying derail the thread . The op do not come here to talk about tribalism or racism .

Timi1990:


No need to argue, just check google.com and see the list of ghetto neighbourhood in those places I mentioned, you go fear

Ok, check out photos of those so called ghettos and compare them to, say, Ikeja.

Babyvet:


Oh boy , go read your post again, u said there other ways to migrate . I asked you to mention them and u mentioned illegal immigrants in sanctory cities and bribery.

Here is how it all started.
Here is what u wrote and my response:



Babyvet:
A lot of lies are being spread on this site. 

To the op, below are direct link from the US and Canada immigration sites. Both summarize ways to get permanent residency. Go through each one and see which option you qualify for.

Canada -https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada.html?_ga=2.258684938.1899775825.1538506701-1494708104.1538506701

US - https://www.uscis.gov/greencard/eligibility-categories


OP, no mind am. Never go by what is written down. Go for direct experience. Many of the people entrusted to enforce these guidlines don't follow them. U never know till u try

WetinConsignMe:


Here is how it all started.
Here is what u wrote and my response:



Babyvet:
A lot of lies are being spread on this site. 

To the op, below are direct link from the US and Canada immigration sites. Both summarize ways to get permanent residency. Go through each one and see which option you qualify for.

Canada -https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/immigrate-canada.html?_ga=2.258684938.1899775825.1538506701-1494708104.1538506701

US - https://www.uscis.gov/greencard/eligibility-categories


OP, no mind am. Never go by what is written down. Go for direct experience. Many of the people entrusted to enforce these guidlines don't follow them. U never know till u try

AGAIN, I asked what other ways can one immigrate that is not listed on the website. PLEASE LIST THEM.

Babyvet:


Abeg stop trying derail the thread . The op do not come here to talk about tribalism or racism .

Since you are too conscious about derailing the topic, why do you keep mentioning me on this discourse.

Babyvet:


AGAIN, I asked what other ways can one immigrate that is not listed on the website. PLEASE LIST THEM.

AGAIN, what's written on the website doesn't always apply in real life. TRY!

WetinConsignMe:


AGAIN, what's written on the website doesn't always apply in real life. TRY!

Yes it very much applies in real life , most of the travel threads on this Naira land about the us and Canada are talking about what’s on those immigration website , the student visa, green card and federal skilled workers programs all come from that website . How are you going to be denouncing what’s on their offficial immigration site . By logic anyone can come inn to the country then ?

dochenaj:

Since you are too conscious about derailing the topic, why do you keep mentioning me on this discourse.

No you are mentioned my name that I responded . Boy good night , it should be night time in Nigeria go to bed and prepare for tomorrow work day.

Babyvet:


The number do not lie , Nigerians some denying the truth when it’s infront front of you .

Am not disputing the report from the link you share. I just want you to accept the fact people get employment based visa from Nigeria especially nurses.

Again, do you take time to peruse the number of approval from other countries from that report for employment based? Nigeria is FIRST in Africa and about 18% of total approval for Africa countries compare to 13% and 17% for immediate relative and family preference respectively.

Babyvet:



Yes it very much applies in real life , most of the travel threads on this Naira land about the us and Canada are talking about what’s on those immigration website , the student visa, green card and federal skilled workers programs all come from that website . How are you going to be denouncing what’s on their offficial immigration site . By logic anyone can come inn to the country then ?

Wrong. Most of the discussions are about people's direct experiences and interactions regarding immigration. The rules are there for all to see and I'm clearly not denouncing the rules at all. I'm only saying don't let the minutae of the rules duscourage u from even trying. TRY!

InvertedHammer:

/
I hope you know that in calculating averages, one very high number or low number can distort the average.

A makes N100k
B makes N60k
C makes N20K
D makes N10k
E makes N700k

Based on the data shown, the average income of this group is N178k. But then, look at the data again. Only one person makes the cut. That is 20%. Isn't application of statistics funny?

/

The people who put up those statistics are not fool. What u see is actually the mean or median income not the average. They discount the extremes.

chiiichiii:


Is it advisable to start the processing myself or get an agent?

While an agent might seem an easier way to go about it but most of them hype the opportunities in order to get you to buy whatever they are selling. My advice, whatever you do, let the agent play more of an advisory role but do the processing yourself.

WetinConsignMe:


Wrong. Most of the discussions are about people's direct experiences and interactions regarding immigration. The rules are there for all to see and I'm clearly not denouncing the rules at all. I'm only saying don't let the minutae of the rules duscourage u from even trying. TRY!

Oh boy , just leave it alone . I was not born in Nigeria . I was born abroad . I don’t have do back door nonsense . Happy Independence Day to all my proud Nigerians who do not forget where they come from, no matter were they are.

Babyvet:


Oh boy , just leave it alone . I was not born in Nigeria . I was born abroad . I don’t have do back door nonsense . Happy Independence Day to all my proud Nigerians who do not forget where they come from, no matter were they are.

Ok, that explains it. U were not born in 9ja. I am and therefore I'm in touch with people who have used all sorts of ways not just what's written down. Happy independence.
BTW, funny how we waste our time enriching Seun, not getting paid for any of this. Amazing!

Bishop:



try the Canadian express entry into am also about to try that too...we sure have same travelling plans..Let's keep in touch

Same here