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Re: . by aniomafirstson: 5:46pm On Oct 03, 2018
B2mario:
But bro some Jews are not white na, just like Indians. We are surrounded by typical negros but some of us are very fair like the white.
You mean the likes of phyno,tekno and bianca cool

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Re: . by B2mario(m): 5:49pm On Oct 03, 2018
Chef2000:
Anyone who believes he is from Israel should do so on his behalf and that of his family but generalizing it by saying that all Igbos migrated from Israel is foolishness
Not all Igbos but we have some Jews living among us. This is a fact and dont dispute it. Isus and Ndokis are the oldest Igbos. And they were later joined by the Nris, Aros and the Orsus who might possibly be the Jews.
Re: . by mightguy(m): 5:50pm On Oct 03, 2018
pazienza:
I'm not the type to dismiss things.
But honestly speaking, the Hebrew story sound bogus.

The only way Ndiigbo are Hebrews is if the current Ashkenazi Caucasians inhabiting Israel called Israeli, are not Hebrews( biblical Israelites), but rather impostors.
Because let's face it, Ndiigbo are no way related to the Caucasians currently inhabiting Israel, who by the way, are racists.

But this is the problem. Those Igbos who promote the Igbo Hebrew story also claim Ndiigbo are related to the current Caucasian occupants of Israel.
This in my opinion cannot be farther from the truth.
what happened to the real people? Where they conquered and killed of.. Married of or what? Please educate mua
Re: . by pazienza(m): 5:52pm On Oct 03, 2018
B2mario:
Not all Igbos but we have some Jews living among us. This is a fact and dont dispute it. Isus and Ndokis are the oldest Igbos. And they were later joined by the Nris, Aros and the Orsus who might possibly be the Jews.

Are you sure about the Ndokis? Because I know they are not that old. Their history is known.

I think in antiquity, the Isus should be the oldest in Igboland.

They exist in Enugu, Anambra, Abia, Imo, Ebonyi, Anioma.
I don't know of any Isu town in Igboid Rivers.

Many Isu people don't even know that they are Isu.

I think something must have happened to the Isu civilization in the past, causing them to scatter and lose their identity.
Perhaps the entrance of new groups into their area, who overwhelmed them in battle.
Re: . by B2mario(m): 5:54pm On Oct 03, 2018
Chef2000:

So there is a difference between Mnanwu and Ekpo? cheesy didn't know untill now.
Lol, you better know it now
Re: . by pazienza(m): 5:56pm On Oct 03, 2018
mightguy:
what happened to the real people? Where they conquered and killed of.. Married of or what? Please educate mua

I can't say Nwannem.
It's all about speculations.
Re: . by B2mario(m): 6:03pm On Oct 03, 2018
pazienza:


We don't do Ekpo in Idemili area. We don't even call it Mmanwu, we call it "Mmuo", ie "spirit".
You are right. Mmanwu is more pronounced among the Orlus/Arondizuogu of Imo state and some part of Anambra. Though these areas still have Ekpo known as Ebuebu and Okonkon.
Re: . by pazienza(m): 6:14pm On Oct 03, 2018
B2mario:
You are right. Mmanwu is more pronounced among the Orlus/Arondizuogu of Imo state and some part of Anambra. Though these areas still have Ekpo known as Ebuebu and Okonkon.

Enugu people still call it Mmanwu, likewise Orumba parts of Anambra, and Umunneochi parts of Abia.

Mmanwu should be the most widespread spiritual institution in Igboland.

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Re: . by B2mario(m): 6:41pm On Oct 03, 2018
pazienza:
The little I know about Ekpo is that is prevalent in Imo and Abia parts of Igboland, and is some how related to Cross riverian culture, just like Ekpe.

Can someone clear me on this?
Mmanwu is totally different from Ekpo which originated from Ejagham, Cross river. Ekpo has a wooden caved marsk (i.e face) like the one shown by Mr. Kenneth and it's predominant in Abia, Ebonyi and Enugu while Mmanwu mostly predominant in Orlu axis of Imo and some of part Anambra is designed abroad, very colourful without marsk and it's faceless and eyeless. Their voices sound like whistle. In the middle part of their front they have something like rug that runs from the head to the toe. some contain mirrors all over their bodies. They might be short or very tall. The short ones are known as AKAKPO while the tall ones are called OPI-OGOLO.

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Re: . by B2mario(m): 6:46pm On Oct 03, 2018
pazienza:

They have Egbelu in Obigbo Rivers state. It's an Ndoki town.
Yes bro
Re: . by B2mario(m): 6:49pm On Oct 03, 2018
pazienza:
Abagana( Anambra) Abatete (Anambra) Abakeleke (Ebonyi) Aba-Ngwa(Abia) Aba Omege(Ebonyi) Abacha(Anambra)
Another school of thought
Re: . by B2mario(m): 6:54pm On Oct 03, 2018
pazienza:


I understand Abagworo point very well.
Join Onu Ika facebook page, and spend just a week there, and you wouldn't feel any different. It's torture, the rate of direct and indirect negative words directed towards Ndiigbo there. I have been there for long now. I can't take the torture, I have made up my mind on the people and thinking of leaving there soon for the sake of my sanity.
Are you sure most of them are original Ika indigenes just as we have so many impostors here claiming Igbos to cause dissatisfaction and disunity among us.

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Re: . by Afam4eva(m): 6:56pm On Oct 03, 2018
B2mario:
I wonder what my friends are doing here. Orji is part of the greater Owerri metropolis just as Obosi is part of the greater Onitsha metropolis. Can someone mention Aba metropolis without the inclusion of Eziukwu, Ogbor-hill and Osisioma.
I've noticed that we Igbos don't think big. We're always myopic in our thinking, that's why someone can say that Obosi and Orji are not in Onitsha and Owerri respectively when cities outgrow their current limit and become bigger with time. As far as i'm concerned Owerri stretches as far as Ogbaku in Mbaitoli Loca government. Let's think big and stop making our cities look like little hamlets.

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Re: . by allcomage: 6:56pm On Oct 03, 2018
Abagworo:
I strongly condemn and reject the addition of Agbor to Igboland. Ika has nothing to offer other than contaminating Igbos with their identity crisis.

So you want throw away Igbo land because of 5% migrant dewellers who have adopted Igbo land as theirs and their future generations. They are welcome as long as they behave themselves and stop distorting history.

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Re: . by mightguy(m): 6:56pm On Oct 03, 2018
pazienza:

I can't say Nwannem. It's all about speculations.
kk sir..
Re: . by B2mario(m): 6:59pm On Oct 03, 2018
odogwu125:

This is also my school of though. Some jews probably settled here among us, not that we are ALL Jews
Yes, i concur
Re: . by B2mario(m): 7:02pm On Oct 03, 2018
pazienza:


Are you sure about the Ndokis? Because I know they are not that old. Their history is known.

I think in antiquity, the Isus should be the oldest in Igboland.

They exist in Enugu, Anambra, Abia, Imo, Ebonyi, Anioma.
I don't know of any Isu town in Igboid Rivers.

Many Isu people don't even know that they are Isu.

I think something must have happened to the Isu civilization in the past, causing them to scatter and lose their identity.
Perhaps the entrance of new groups into their area, who overwhelmed them in battle.
I'm very sure bro
Re: . by B2mario(m): 7:06pm On Oct 03, 2018
odogwu125:
2Kings 17: 5 - 6 The king of Assyria (Shalmaneser) invaded the entire land, marched against samaria and laid siege to it for three years. In the ninth year of Hoshea (king of northern Kingdom of Israel) the king of Assyria capture Samaria and deported the Isrealites to Assyria. He settled them in Halah, in Goazan on the Habor River and in the towns of the Medes.


According to world history, Samaria fell to the Assyrians in 722 BC. That was when 9 tribes in Israel were lost remaining Judah, Benjamin and Levi. Some people from the tribe of Gad probably wandered down here during this scattering period. Possibly those who fled from the Assyrians during the siege ie those living in the open villages and not inside the walled cities that were undet siege. This is my own hypothesis
They later came back after the fall of Babylon and rebuilt Jeruselem.
Re: . by pazienza(m): 7:07pm On Oct 03, 2018
B2mario:
Are you sure most of them are original Ika indigenes just as we have so many impostors here claiming Igbos to cause dissatisfaction and disunity among us.

Most of them are original Ika people. Facebook is not as faceless as here. You can go through their facebook accounts and see their family members.

Moreover, the Onu Ika facebook page is the official and most popular Ika facebook book page, there is no way it would be ran by impostors.
They are Ika people.

You can join and see for yourself.

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Re: . by mightguy(m): 7:08pm On Oct 03, 2018
Hey guyz.. Where do u think the migration of igbo to present Nigeria started.. For me i think itz from the Cameroon..
Re: . by B2mario(m): 7:08pm On Oct 03, 2018
pazienza:


Enugu people still call it Mmanwu, likewise Orumba parts of Anambra, and Umunneochi parts of Abia.

Mmanwu should be the most widespread spiritual institution in Igboland.
No, Ekpo is not Mmanwu
Re: . by Nobody: 7:10pm On Oct 03, 2018
InyinyaAgbaOku:


You are the one who shoved aside facts, to pursue inanities here. The second link clearly gave the histories of most Igbos clans. None is Jewish.
Eri was described as a progenitor, sky deity, not a migrant. Or did you see any Israeli linkages there? There, Only was said to have their progenitor from the ground, same as Owerri.
How many of your ancestors told you differently? Why should I accept such colonial influence on my history of all things?
There is nothing like providing alternative facts to yours, cos that Jewish linkage isn't a fact.
The articles disproved why the Hebrew linkage is a farce and everything said there is true. You are yet to defend that, just stuck on insisting you came from Hebrew for no good reason.

Archeological studies of Awka and Nsukka gave Igbo history at around 8000 BC, I was thinking that the newer archeological discoveries done at Nsukka (of 4000 BC) would have opened your eyes but you rather prefer fallacies. As at 8000bc, Abraham wasn't even born.
If anything, it's Hebrews that migrated from some parts of Igboland.

From this your post, it shows that different Igbo towns have different origins. This our so-called Igbo land is beginning to really confuse me. I thought that just as all Yoruba people claim Oduduwa and ile ife is the same way all Igbo people came from Eri in Aguleri but, Igbo people's own must always be different. I just tire for Igbo people.
Re: . by B2mario(m): 7:15pm On Oct 03, 2018
Afam4eva:

I've noticed that we Igbos don't think big. We're always myopic in our thinking, that's why someone can say that Obosi and Orji are not in Onitsha and Owerri respectively when cities outgrow their current limit and become bigger with time. As far as i'm concerned Owerri stretches as far as Ogbaku in Mbaitoli Loca government. Let's think big and stop making our cities look like little hamlets.
Correct. If Obosi and Orji are not parts of Onitsha and Owerri respectively, it means that the two towns has not gotten up to a city size and should not be accorded a city status.
Re: . by Nobody: 7:27pm On Oct 03, 2018
aniomafirstson:

You mean the likes of phyno,tekno and bianca cool

not just them, Igbos have more fair people than other tribes in Nigeria, the population of fair Igbo people is very high amongst the total Igbo population. This may be as a result of foreign blood but no one knows.
Re: . by Nobody: 7:35pm On Oct 03, 2018
mightguy:
what happened to the real people? Where they conquered and killed of.. Married of or what? Please educate mua

Israel got its independence in 1948, that was the year some Jews migrated to the new country. Those Jews who migrated to Israel in 1948 came from different European countries and most of them were Jewish converts not the real Israelites. Take a visit to Israel, you will notice that Israelis are the only people in the middle east that look different from Arabs because, most of them were actually Europeans who practiced Judaism. You can also visit some parts of Lagos like Ikoyi, Lekki and Apapa where you will see lots of Middle Easterners from Israelis to Lebanese and Saudi Arabians, you will notice the clear difference between the so-called real Israelites and other middle Easterners.
Re: . by Nobody: 7:40pm On Oct 03, 2018
Afam4eva:

I've noticed that we Igbos don't think big. We're always myopic in our thinking, that's why someone can say that Obosi and Orji are not in Onitsha and Owerri respectively when cities outgrow their current limit and become bigger with time. As far as i'm concerned Owerri stretches as far as Ogbaku in Mbaitoli Loca government. Let's think big and stop making our cities look like little hamlets.

Owerri capital territory is made up of Owerri west LG, Owerri North LG, Owerri Municipal and Mbaitoli LG. These 4 LGAs makeup Owerri metropolis.
Re: . by mightguy(m): 7:41pm On Oct 03, 2018
nnamdijonathan:


Israel got its independence in 1948, that was the year some Jews migrated to the new country. Those Jews who migrated to Israel in 1948 came from different European countries and most of them were Jewish converts not the real Israelites. Take a visit to Israel, you will notice that Israelis are the only people in the middle east that look different from Arabs because, most of them were actually Europeans who practiced Judaism. You can also visit some parts of Lagos like Ikoyi, Lekki and Apapa where you will see lots of Middle Easterners from Israelis to Lebanese and Saudi Arabians, you will notice the clear difference between the so-called real Israelites and other middle Easterners.
wow tanx. I will do more research about this
Re: . by Xander85: 8:01pm On Oct 03, 2018
BankeSmalls:


We the Agbor indigenous community are Igbos. My grandfather lived with the British at Agbor oki, we speak Igbo and observe all Igbo traditions. You have no rights whatsoever to reject us.

You didn't create us.

Word!

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Re: . by Curlieweed: 8:07pm On Oct 03, 2018
nnamdijonathan:


From this your post, it shows that different Igbo towns have different origins. This our so-called Igbo land is beginning to really confuse me. I thought that just as all Yoruba people claim Oduduwa and ile ife is the same way all Igbo people came from Eri in Aguleri but, Igbo people's own must always be different. I just tire for Igbo people.

Igbo is not a tribe. A tribe can have a single origin. A nation can have diverse origins. You can talk about the origins of the tribes that inhabitted Igboland; the Isus, Ngwas, Aros and so on.

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