superlightning:


Sorry, alternative account says otherwise. Yoruba at the last minute rejected zik, who later ran back to bully eyo ita out of the leadership. Okpara was too good to be ignored and he proved himself as such, zik appetite for leadership was at lagos capital at the time. Okpara was just as Igbo and good (if not better) in leading the eastern region. So he owes zik NOTHING, he has long paid his due.

onuebonyi:
Add your own but whether you want to accept it or not Anambra is the leader in the SE.

superlightning:


You have proven to be a waste of time. Keep deluding yourself. I will be nice enough to ignore you.

superlightning:


I am for common sense. I hate divisions. Stop the division.

Bede2u:
stop replying him...he has over 30 monikers...u dont wanna talk with him believe me

superlightning:


You have proven to be a waste of time. Keep deluding yourself. I will be nice enough to ignore you.

Bede2u:
i thought u told pazienza that i was bringing division and being uncoth...

Lol u are just as angry as i am...touché

Chiwude:
You tried to elevate Ekweremadu: a sitting duck and new Zik of our time because he's is your kinsman. Pazienza saw your intentions as not genuine.

basilo101:
Ekweremadu remains the highest ranking igbo politician at the moment. But what is it to celebrate in it. We don't celebrate individuals over here.

Bede2u:
i dont even like ekweremadu to start with...but he has managed to keep himself in seat for 12 yrs...not easy...and not possible tru confrontation

Chiwude:
You tried to elevate Ekweremadu: a sitting duck and new Zik of our time because he's is your kinsman. Pazienza saw your intentions as not genuine.

Chiwude:
The Ekweremadu that I have been following for years is confrontational and in the mould of Zik, only that he has been lucky to play his politics well. Ekweremadu is just as confused as Zik in matters that consigns the core needs of Ndigbo. He usually loses his voice to issues that bothers the South-East while talk stupidly on issues like restructuring and pro united Nigeria agenda. Left to me, I will pick him as my number 1 candidate for VP position of Igbo extract but it ends there. He lacks charisma and ability to lead the Igbo nation: He is just like Zik in body and soul rather than a vibrant Ojukwu.

Chiwude:
The Ekweremadu that I have been following for years is confrontational and in the mould of Zik, only that he has been lucky to play his politics well. Ekweremadu is just as confused as Zik in matters that consigns the core needs of Ndigbo. He usually loses his voice to issues that bothers the South-East while talk stupidly on issues like restructuring and pro united Nigeria agenda. Left to me, I will pick him as my number 1 candidate for VP position of Igbo extract but it ends there. He lacks charisma and ability to lead the Igbo nation: He is just like Zik in body and soul rather than a vibrant Ojukwu.

basilo101:

He is more than zik at the moment. But that's not what we celebrate

InyinyaAgbaOku:


Let's remove the name, Ironsi from it .
What do we do with our governors?
Concrete performance - Zero
Igbocentric - Zero

Double tragedy

Bede2u:
nzeogwu was an idiot whose memory should be cursed. Idiot thought nigeria was a small country he could control...he didnt appreciate the strenght of the north. Today, the east could have at least been wat lagos is to nigeria today..the richest zone...where the money is.

Enugu and ph could have been like abuja and lagos. The east had it all...but it wasnt enough...nzogwu and his goons wanted more...they got death instead. Curse their memory. Am sad now

pazienza:


Well, we can agree to disagree.
We are all Igbos. Our fate are linked, whether we want it or not.
Imi bewe, anya ebewe.

Let's look at each other with love and learn to try and see the good in each other.
I enjoyed our exchanges.

Udo.

pazienza:


Herbert Macaulay was no Igbo leader, Zik was. That's the difference.

There were many advice coming from all quarters for Ojukwu, ultimately, he couldn't have taken everyone's advise. By the way, do you mind explaining what you mean by "wise counsel" . Can you enumerate those wise counsels to Ojukwu that he rejected, let's see how wise they were, taking cognizance of the situation then.

Ironsi created a big mess. First he dissolved Igbo Union. Then he went on a folly driven mission to unify the government. Then he failed to present Nzeogwu and co to the North to butcher, since he was eager to please them.
If he wasn't going to butcher Nzeogwu and co to appease and pacify the aggrieved North, the next option was to surround himself with Igbo officers and carefully eliminate Northern officers who posed immediate danger.
Instead he did the opposite. He kept Nzeogwu and co alive, and then went and surrounded himself with Northerners. His decision to centralize the government made the propaganda of "Igbo coup" propagated by western region media gain more credibility.
Ironsi contributed a major part to the break out of Igbo progrom in the North, his poor leadership allowed the counter coup to occur. He was easily the worst leader in Igbo history and he left the young Ojukwu with too much mess to clean up when he was murdered.

Nobody is belittling anyone. And nobody has stopped other Igbos from celebrating their own achievements, but what won't happen is those who don't want to celebrate their own achievements, feeling aggrieved about Ndi Anambra celebrating theirs.

Handsomegod:
Oga take it easy. Nzeogwu was no fool.His acted within the limit of what constituted national interest in his era. Plenty issues conditioned the coup and the fall out today. For a start,as at then,the north had 23 senior officers.The west had 17. The East had 78 senior officers so it was natural to have more easterners in any military set up. Now,what was the political and social basis for a change of government? A politicised 1962 census,the political anarchy in the Western Region,the bloody Tiv riots,a partially boycotted 1964 general elections and other social ills such as ethnic chauvinism,endemic corruption,nepotism,economic stagnation,wanton arson,political thuggery and an incompetent leadership at the centre. The coup was inevitable at that point and would have happened any other way sooner than later. The coup received nationwide acclaim until the spin doctors went to town and changed the entire narrative! At the root of this change of narrative(tagging it an Igbo coup) is Igbophobia already well established in the north and West. (Recall Ahmadu Bello's hate speeches,Awolowo's carpet crossing to decimate Zik,Igbo massacres in 1945 in Jos and Kano 1953,etc). You need to consult and read widely to understand the social and political leverges of that era for you to make sense of the coup and it's aftermath. Igbos like who still hold this false narrative only serve to perpetuate lies the enemies, hold on to suppress and justify their evil. Gideon Orka led another bloody coup. Why was his not called a Tiv coup? Dimka led another boody putsch. Why was it not tagged a Jukun coup? Think Oga! Think!

basilo101:

Celebrating what exactly? We will call you to order when you embark on meaningless celebration.

Handsomegod:
Oga take it easy. Nzeogwu was no fool.His acted within the limit of what constituted national interest in his era. Plenty issues conditioned the coup and the fall out today. For a start,as at then,the north had 23 senior officers.The west had 17. The East had 78 senior officers so it was natural to have more easterners in any military set up. Now,what was the political and social basis for a change of government? A politicised 1962 census,the political anarchy in the Western Region,the bloody Tiv riots,a partially boycotted 1964 general elections and other social ills such as ethnic chauvinism,endemic corruption,nepotism,economic stagnation,wanton arson,political thuggery and an incompetent leadership at the centre. The coup was inevitable at that point and would have happened any other way sooner than later. The coup received nationwide acclaim until the spin doctors went to town and changed the entire narrative! At the root of this change of narrative(tagging it an Igbo coup) is Igbophobia already well established in the north and West. (Recall Ahmadu Bello's hate speeches,Awolowo's carpet crossing to decimate Zik,Igbo massacres in 1945 in Jos and Kano 1953,etc). You need to consult and read widely to understand the social and political leverges of that era for you to make sense of the coup and it's aftermath. Igbos like who still hold this false narrative only serve to perpetuate lies the enemies, hold on to suppress and justify their evil. Gideon Orka led another bloody coup. Why was his not called a Tiv coup? Dimka led another boody putsch. Why was it not tagged a Jukun coup? Think Oga! Think!

Bede2u:
all u said... i knew.

But u are missing one thing already...the fact that 4 out of 5 top officers who planned the coup where igbos and the fact the only 2 premieres who were not killed were igbos.
The only fg actors who were not killed were igbos and the person who benefited from the coup was igbo.

Foolish nzeogwu PERFECTLY played into the arms of the enemy in such a way that questions should be asked if he was actually an slowpoke or just an uninformed fool.

Bede2u:
all u said... i knew.

But u are missing one thing already...the fact that 4 out of 5 top officers who planned the coup where igbos and the fact the only 2 premieres who were not killed were igbos.
The only fg actors who were not killed were igbos and the person who benefited from the coup was igbo.

Foolish nzeogwu PERFECTLY played into the arms of the enemy in such a way that questions should be asked if he was actually an slowpoke or just an uninformed fool.