basilo101:

Well, he takes all the blame for his naivety and shares it with no one else

Sure, just as other Igbo leaders before and after him takes blames for their own shortcomings too.

BankeSmalls:


I understand you. Igbos must find a way to cover all the tall mansions they own in all parts of Nigeria with blanket , deny their bank accounts and walk on foot instead of owing cars just to please Nigeria?

I thought you were smarter than this?

Savage

superlightning:


You obviously didn't understand me.

Its not about the achievements. Its the unwarranted noise and drama we make about it, knowing fully well that we are in an igbophobic society.

Israel makes no noise about their achievement unless they are being challenged by their neighbours. Same with UAE, Germany, Singapore.

Our unbridled pride is our Achilles heel.

I was also part of those who were somewhat disappointed at your views,having thought earlier you can be circumspect enough to detect the dynamics of the Igbo dilemma in Nigeria. For you and Basilo and the rest of howling mob,Igbos need to be perfect and prime to be fully accepted as equal and worthy of emulation. Sad to say.
You went ahead to commit another blunder of saying Israel makes no noise about their achievements.For a start,refer to the attached youtube link. I will supply 15 other youtube and reviews all screaming Israels achievements from the rooftops.
Enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqRPt8SYmM

Handsomegod:

I was also part of those who were somewhat disappointed at your views,having thought earlier you can be circumspect enough to detect the dynamics of the Igbo dilemma in Nigeria. For you and Basilo and the rest of howling mob,Igbos need to be perfect and prime to be fully accepted as equal and worthy of emulation. Sad to say.
You went ahead to commit another blunder of saying Israel makes no noise about their achievements.For a start,refer to the attached youtube link. I will supply 15 other youtube and reviews all screaming Israels achievements from the rooftops.
Enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqRPt8SYmM

This is Israel when pushed to the wall.

Not the nascent Israel of yesteryears when they were still vulnerable and developing. Other nations were the ones blowing their trumpet for them.

Also, rubbing ones achievement ON OTHER PEOPLES FACES is improper, Israel, except when challenged or pushed to the wall, NEVER did that. Pls show me where they did.

This video is netanyahu speaking. Netanyahu is a recent Israeli leader in a period where Hezbollah has openly challenged their strength.

There will always be haters, but let's also ensure we are check ourselves too.

Unbridle pride and arrogance won't help us. It never helped anyone. Germany has learnt their lesson, albeit the hard way.

superlightning:


You obviously didn't understand me.

Its not about the achievements. Its the unwarranted noise and drama we make about it, knowing fully well that we are in an igbophobic society.

Israel makes no noise about their achievement unless they are being challenged by their neighbours. Same with UAE, Germany, Singapore.

Our unbridled pride is our Achilles heel.

Unbridled pride is when you block the whole road just to throw owambe party

Unbridled pride is when you claim suffersticated while mud house may collapse on your old parents head any moment in Obomosho

Unbridled pride is claiming smart with new cars and plenty oloshos even when you own no single house in warri or sapele, while claiming Edo blood.

Unbridled pride is claiming born to rule, as a stark illiterate, while your whole community are beggers and almajirins.

superlightning:


You obviously didn't understand me.

Its not about the achievements. Its the unwarranted noise and drama we make about it, knowing fully well that we are in an igbophobic society.

Israel makes no noise about their achievement unless they are being challenged by their neighbours. Same with UAE, Germany, Singapore.

Our unbridled pride is our Achilles heel.

Then maybe you should read Thomas Sowell's essay, "Black Rednecks and White Liberals" and "Are the Jews generic?" Where he discussed about the middleman minorities, to which he listed the igbos as one. He talked extensively about the typical character of the jews ( representing the middlemen). How they start mostly from being agrarian, then graduating to trading, to taking up white collar jobs, real estate and then manufacturing. Most importantly he talked about the brashness, lousiness and arrogance of the Jews.

You can as well, once in a while visit UNZ.com where issues about racism, heredity, world geopolitical economic and military politics are discussed. Its another interesting forum filled with inteligences experts, research fellows and scholars from world class research and academic institutions.

It was on the forum, igbos were rated as one of most high achieving black race in America and in the UK even performing far better than Indians and Asians when grouped by ethnicity . igbos were used as a sample to disprove white superiority over blacks.

BankeSmalls:


Unbridled pride is when you block the whole road just to throw owambe party

Unbridled pride is when you claim suffersticated while mud house may collapse on your old parents head any moment in Obomosho

Unbridled pride is claiming smart with new cars and plenty oloshos even when you own no single house in warri or sapele, while claiming Edo blood.

Unbridled pride is claiming born to rule, as a stark illiterate, while your whole community are beggers and almajirins.

At least, these ones know that they are NOT in a yorubaphobic or hausaphobic society. That's why they are the way they are. Politically however, they go stealth many atimes.

superlightning:
There will always be haters, but let's also ensure we are check ourselves too.

Unbridle pride and arrogance won't help us. It never helped anyone. Germany has learnt their lesson, albeit the hard way.

There will always be haters like you, who hide under a fake moniker claiming igbo, while forgetting the humiliation you are suffering as a people.

Very incisive.

Handsomegod:

I was also part of those who were somewhat disappointed at your views,having thought earlier you can be circumspect enough to detect the dynamics of the Igbo dilemma in Nigeria. For you and Basilo and the rest of howling mob,Igbos need to be perfect and prime to be fully accepted as equal and worthy of emulation. Sad to say.
You went ahead to commit another blunder of saying Israel makes no noise about their achievements.For a start,refer to the attached youtube link. I will supply 15 other youtube and reviews all screaming Israels achievements from the rooftops.
Enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqRPt8SYmM

superlightning:


At least, these ones know that they are NOT in a yorubaphobic or hausaphobic society. That's why they are the way they are. Politically however, they go stealth many atimes.

Who told you? Hausas will tear out yoruba eyes if given half the chance. and fulanis will erase everyone else. We are in a hostile world. All of us.

Ozibe:


Then maybe you should read Thomas Sowell's essay, "Black Rednecks and White Liberals" and "Are the Jews generic?" Where he discussed about the middleman minorities, to which he listed the igbos as one. He talked extensively about the typical character of the jews ( representing the middlemen). How they start mostly from being agrarian, then graduating to trading, to taking with collar jobs and then manufacturing. Most importantly he talked about the brashness, lousiness and arrogance of the Jews.

You can as well, once in a while visit UNZ.com where issues about racism, heredity, world geopolitical economic and military politics are discussed. Its another interesting forum.

It was on the forum, igbos were rated as one of most high achieving black race in America and in the UK even performing far better than Indians and Asians when grouped by ethnicity . igbos were used as a sample to disprove white superiority over blacks.

I know Thomas so well. I know chisala as well with his popular paper on IQ and heredity. These guys aren't Igbo, yet they blow our trumpet for us, that's how it should be.

Igbos ingenuity breed natural hatred towards them. I know that, but its our own duty not to aggravate it unnecessarily.

Handsomegod:

I was also part of those who were somewhat disappointed at your views,having thought earlier you can be circumspect enough to detect the dynamics of the Igbo dilemma in Nigeria. For you and Basilo and the rest of howling mob,Igbos need to be perfect and prime to be fully accepted as equal and worthy of emulation. Sad to say.
You went ahead to commit another blunder of saying Israel makes no noise about their achievements.For a start,refer to the attached youtube link. I will supply 15 other youtube and reviews all screaming Israels achievements from the rooftops.
Enjoy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=niqRPt8SYmM

Brilliant. Just genius.

superlightning:
There will always be haters, but let's also ensure we are check ourselves too.

Unbridle pride and arrogance won't help us. It never helped anyone. Germany has learnt their lesson, albeit the hard way.

Just so we all are clear. Kindly give me notable examples where Igbos openly rubbed their achievements in other people's faces. I thought the long and comprehensive article by Pazienza ought to cure such asinine vitriol but i can see you are determined to progress with the same jaundiced narrative employed by the detractors to keep Igbos down.
In what way was the German reality related to the Igbo? Germany set out to militarily take over Europe and institute the superiority of the Aryan race. Please can you give me one single example where the Igbo set out to militarily conquer or desecrate another group? Again,give me examples of unbridled pride and arrogance of the Igbo. I assume you are Igbo hence it is sad we are having this discussion centered on unfounded stereotype in 2018. Please avail me.

ghostfacekillar:
mr.. I don't agree.. The European didn't colonise Africa to develop us. They saw us as black monkeys who could walk upright... They used us as sports.they sent some of my fathers to untimely grave... Some was thrown into the sea. Some raped. Castrated and burned alive. Neva u justify their coming as a good thing in Africa. Europe wrecked Africa. They subdued us and tuned us into clown for four hundred years..... European are evil... Pale skin devils... They told us that African was not developed. That we couldn't write. That we were animals living in the Bush and they came and taught us good thing.... Europeans introduced tribalism in Africa...they are evil.. Pale skin devil... They destroyed Africa civilization. Imagine Egypt. Ethiopia. Igbo nsibidi... And lots of other things. European are evil

I agree with you totally! Europeans are evil and continue to be. They introduced tribalism to break Africa. We are still under modern colonisation! They did everything to destroy who we are and to look after their wrong belief.

A response to basilo01

Egyptians and Ethiopians are pure Africans. Europeans actually want other Africans to think that we aren't black so that other Africans like you could not take our achievement as an achievement of Africa. The ones who built that big Egyptian civilization were black. Many Africans have achieved many things but Europeans destroyed many. There are many Mali and Ethiopian heritages stolen and kept in Britain. Our statue of Axum was stolen and kept in Italy as it belongs to them.

Anyways, I hope you get it

BankeSmalls:


Who told you? Hausas will tear out yoruba eyes if given half the chance. and fulanis will erase everyone else. We are in a hostile world. All of us.

Lol.....my sister you know that the Yoruba and Hausa can set aside their differences just to fight the Igbo. So it tells you that when the shit hits the fan, its all against Igbo. Yoruba and Hausa are bedmates.

Handsomegod:

Just so we all are clear. Kindly give me notable examples where Igbos openly rubbed their achievements in other people's faces. I thought the long and comprehensive article by Pazienza ought to cure such asinine vitriol but i can see you are determined to progress with the same jaundiced narrative employed by the detractors to keep Igbos down.
In what way was the German reality related to the Igbo? Germany set out to militarily take over Europe and institute the superiority of the Aryan race. Please can you give me one single example where the Igbo set out to militarily conquer or desecrate another group? Again,give me examples of unbridled pride and arrogance of the Igbo. I assume you are Igbo hence it is sad we are having this discussion centered on unfounded stereotype in 2018. Please avail me.

Alright then, give me a few minutes....

superlightning:


Lol.....my sister you know that the Yoruba and Hausa can set aside their differences just to fight the Igbo. So it tells you that when the shit hits the fan, its all against Igbo. Yoruba and Hausa are bedmates.

That's politics. Tell that to the hausa guys who slaughtered hundreds of Yorubas at mile 12. Where was the bedmates then?

superlightning:


This is Israel when pushed to the wall.

Not the nascent Israel of yesteryears when they were still vulnerable and developing. Other nations were the ones blowing their trumpet for them.

Also, rubbing ones achievement ON OTHER PEOPLES FACES is improper, Israel, except when challenged or pushed to the wall, NEVER did that. Pls show me where they did.

This video is netanyahu speaking. Netanyahu is a recent Israeli leader in a period where Hezbollah has openly challenged their strength.

Oga,was Israel pushed to the wall for Natenyahu to give this address in Berlin in June this year?
Which nascent Isreal? That statement alone clearly showed you are merely commenting here for the bloody heck of it.
Hezebolla and the Holocaust which posed more danger to Israel? Under 75 years,Israel was expelled from different countries a record 21 times. The world over,antisemitism is a covert state policy.
In whatever circumstances,Bibi Natenyahu is the leader of Isreal and his views represent the direction of Israel per time. Israel has always faced existential threats. Again,remember to give me links where Igbos rubbed their achievements in other people's faces.

Handsomegod:

Just so we all are clear. Kindly give me notable examples where Igbos openly rubbed their achievements in other people's faces. I thought the long and comprehensive article by Pazienza ought to cure such asinine vitriol but i can see you are determined to progress with the same jaundiced narrative employed by the detractors to keep Igbos down.
In what way was the German reality related to the Igbo? Germany set out to militarily take over Europe and institute the superiority of the Aryan race. Please can you give me one single example where the Igbo set out to militarily conquer or desecrate another group? Again,give me examples of unbridled pride and arrogance of the Igbo. I assume you are Igbo hence it is sad we are having this discussion centered on unfounded stereotype in 2018. Please avail me.

Again let me quote Chinua Achebe, a globally respected Igbo intellectual:

" I will be the first to CONCEDE that the Igbo as a group is not without its FLAWS. Its success can and did carry deadly penalties: the dangers of HUBRIS, OVERWEENING PRIDE, AND THOUGHTLESSNESS, which invite envy and hatred or, even worse, that can OBSESS THE MIND with material success and dispose it to ALL KINDS of CRUDE SHOWINESS. There is no doubt at all that there is a strand in contemporary Igbo behavior that can offend by its NOISY EXHIBITIONISM and DISREGARD for humility and quietness ". (Page 76, There was a country)

Achebe observed this too on the day to day activities or behavior of his kinsmen. Give me another minute pls....

Handsomegod:

Oga,was Israel pushed to the wall for Natenyahu to give this address in Berlin in June this year?
Which nascent Isreal? That statement alone clearly showed you are merely commenting here for the bloody heck of it.
Hezebolla and the Holocaust which posed more danger to Israel? Under 75 years,Israel was expelled from different countries a record 21 times. The world over,antisemitism is a covert state policy.
In whatever circumstances,Bibi Natenyahu is the leader of Isreal and his views represent the direction of Israel per time. Israel has always faced existential threats. Again,remember to give me links where Igbos rubbed their achievements in other people's faces.

You are too good sire

superlightning:


Again let me quote Chinua Achebe, a globally respected Igbo intellectual:

" I will be the first to CONCEDE that the Igbo as a group is not without its FLAWS. Its success can and did carry deadly penalties: the dangers of HUBRIS, OVERWEENING PRIDE, AND THOUGHTLESSNESS, which invite envy and hatred or, even worse, that can OBSESS THE MIND with material success and dispose it to ALL KINDS of CRUDE SHOWINESS. There is no doubt at all that there is a strand in contemporary Igbo behavior that can offend by its NOISY EXHIBITIONISM and DISREGARD for humility and quietness ". (Page 76, There was a country)

Achebe observed this too on the day to day activities or behavior of his kinsmen. Give me another minute pls....

Can you please quote Achebe where he said Awolowo was a bigoted tribalist? Please help us on that.

BankeSmalls:


That's politics. Tell that to the hausa guys who slaughtered hundreds of Yorubas at mile 12. Where was the bedmates then?

That is a child's play compared to the feelings they have against Igbo people. That incident wasn't occasioned by any yorubaphobia, it was a simple case of good business gone sour. How often do you hear these stories about them?

superlightning:


Again let me quote Chinua Achebe, a globally respected Igbo intellectual:

" I will be the first to CONCEDE that the Igbo as a group is not without its FLAWS. Its success can and did carry deadly penalties: the dangers of HUBRIS, OVERWEENING PRIDE, AND THOUGHTLESSNESS, which invite envy and hatred or, even worse, that can OBSESS THE MIND with material success and dispose it to ALL KINDS of CRUDE SHOWINESS. There is no doubt at all that there is a strand in contemporary Igbo behavior that can offend by its NOISY EXHIBITIONISM and DISREGARD for humility and quietness ". (Page 76, There was a country)

Achebe observed this too on the day to day activities or behavior of his kinsmen. Give me another minute pls....

Oga i dont understand you. You asked for evidence where Israel parroted and boasted of their achievements,i gave a RECORDED youtube link of Isareali Prime Minister himself singing his country's praises .I also mentioned i will give you 15 more if you are willing to see them.
Now instead of you responding in kind,you lifted a blanket statement from Achebe as your evidence of Igbo crude showing? How much more pathetic can one be? What da heck are u up and about?

Handsomegod:

Oga,was Israel pushed to the wall for Natenyahu to give this address in Berlin in June this year?
Which nascent Isreal? That statement alone clearly showed you are merely commenting here for the bloody heck of it.
Hezebolla and the Holocaust which posed more danger to Israel? Under 75 years,Israel was expelled from different countries a record 21 times. The world over,antisemitism is a covert state policy.
In whatever circumstances,Bibi Natenyahu is the leader of Isreal and his views represent the direction of Israel per time. Israel has always faced existential threats. Again,remember to give me links where Igbos rubbed their achievements in other people's faces.

I suspect he is an imposter. But this time taking a more subtle way to blackmail igbos or derail the discussion

superlightning:
There will always be haters, but let's also ensure we are check ourselves too.

Unbridle pride and arrogance won't help us. It never helped anyone. Germany has learnt their lesson, albeit the hard way.

Germany don humble te te. Why do we act like we don't know that losing a war must have consequences?

superlightning:


That is a child's play compared to the feelings they have against Igbo people. That incident wasn't occasioned by any yorubaphobia, it was a simple case of good business gone sour. How often do you hear these stories about them?

many times. The ife killings where they arrested yoruba chiefs and took them to Abuja for over 2 years just because Yorubas fought back.

BankeSmalls:


Can you please quote Achebe where he said Awolowo was a bigoted tribalist? Please help us on that.

My sister, I know you are arguing just to win and not for understanding. You can't offend me nne. Lol...

Ozibe:


I suspect he is an imposter. But this time taking a more subtle way to blackmail igbos or derail the discussion

Say whatever you like. Keep suspecting. Your are inconsequential.

Ozibe:


I suspect he is an imposter. But this time taking a more subtle way to blackmail igbos or derail the discussion

He even is same person as Abagworo, nnamdijonathan and over 30 other monikers here. They are here to fight Igbo interests and use negativity to derail us.

Ozibe:


I suspect he is an imposter. But this time taking a more subtle way to blackmail igbos or derail the discussion

Of course i know himself and Basilo are impostors but i wish to bring them to the mud and end their infamy once and for all.It is a shame what an adult finds fulfilling in doing. Sad to say. Nigeria is finished when one sees the humans that inhabits her.

superlightning:


My sister, I know you are arguing just to win and not for understanding. You can't offend me nne. Lol...

Abagworo, go and rest.