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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:44am On Oct 06, 2018
Danielnino00:



So u agree that the super eagles has helped guys like Iwobi with their club careers..But u don't think the other foreign born players don't need the super eagles to boost their own careers eh?

CC: forgiveness
Whether na FB or local national team boost player’s career

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:45am On Oct 06, 2018
forgiveness:


If Iwobi an academy player was called to the national team, what stops NFF from calling outstanding talents like Eze, Aluko, Tega Onomah, Josh Maja, Ovie and Chucks Aneke into the national team?

These players are good in the position where we are having problems. AMF.

I smell a rat.

Seconded without question

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:47am On Oct 06, 2018
Kog45:
Whether na FB or local national team boost player’s career

Agreed. National team na em boost Ndidi, Balogun, Ekong, Shehu and Iwobi career. No le le. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 11:51am On Oct 06, 2018
forgiveness:


Agreed. National team na em boost Ndidi, Balogun, Ekong, Shehu and Iwobi career. No le le. grin
O’PARI
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:51am On Oct 06, 2018
forgiveness:


Like those England abandoned then I will list the ones we abandoned.


Let me help him out:
Jordan Ibe . Gabriel Agbonlahor. John Salako . Ugo Ehiogu... Nedum Onuoha... Charlton Cole...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:51am On Oct 06, 2018
Kog45:
O’PARI

Hehehe! grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by andrew444(m): 11:52am On Oct 06, 2018
Kog45:
Anderew pls man up and apologize to Kokmne

lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 11:54am On Oct 06, 2018
forgiveness:


Agreed. National team na em boost Ndidi, Balogun, Ekong, Shehu and Iwobi career. No le le. grin


Remove Ndidi from.your list....


Ndidi was already a star in the Belgian league before he made his Nigeria debut... He was also among the best players in the Europa league the year before he moved to Leicester...

If Leicester could discover Kante and Mahrez in obscure leagues,how much more Ndidi??

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:55am On Oct 06, 2018
Kog45:
Whether na FB or local national team boost player’s career

It really depends on where the players career is at.

Do you remember George Abbey played RB for Nigeria Yobo child hood friend. After playing for Nigeria he didn't go beyond Macclesfield and Port Vale finally ending up in Cyprus. It didn't boost his career.

Do you remember Danny Shittu playing for the SE nearly destroyed his career.

Consider Ademola Lookman what will playing for Nigeria do for his career. A player that Everton rejected a £25 million bid from Liepzig.

What will playing for Nigeria do for Ejaria, Seyi, Tega and Tega, Maja at thus current stage these guys are in the public eye. With a lot of clubs looking at them.

Tega and Tega, Seyi are all on over £30k a week they are not desperate.

Possibly for Chuks playing in the lowly league two it could bring him more into the view of other clubs. However if he gets a move in January to the Championship then playing for the SE will be a matter of pride and love if the Fatherland not football career progression.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Tamunotonye22(m): 11:58am On Oct 06, 2018
forgiveness:


Like those England abandoned then I will list the ones we abandoned.

I think we've even forgotten about Steven Ukoh
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 11:59am On Oct 06, 2018
Danielnino00:



Let me help him out:
Jordan Ibe . Gabriel Agbonlahor. John Salako . Ugo Ehiogu... Nedum Onuoha... Charlton Cole...

John Fashanu, Victor Anichebe, Sammy Ameobi, Hope Akpan, Sone Aluko, Josh Onomah, Eze, etc
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:00pm On Oct 06, 2018
They didn’t rate him highly but they tried to get him to rescind his decision in the last minute. I don’t owe Iwobi’s growth to SE. Granted he did not deserve a call up to SE But I’m glad we went for him although it shouldn’t be the standard.
Sir you know England have become more aggressive in their recruiting. There are far more Nigerians in their teams than before, why is that?

komekn:


Actually if the truth mist be told he was not rated highly he played 1 game for England at U18 level and he was 17 then and three games at U17 level.

All this talk that the English FA were begging him Iwobi to play is simply fantasy.

Iwobi got recognition from playing for the SE at this stage he had not played for Arsenal first team. He was an academy player when he got his first senior cap in the SE.

The influence of his uncle in the situation can not be overlooked.

We have a young Nigerian in the name of Josh Maja who is now at age 19 the highest goal scorer in league one. So when a premiership team then buys him that's when we we will call him. Same thing follows for Ebere Eze.

Outstanding performance should be the bench mark not past youthful glories.

Both these players came to the SE party to train in London. They committed but the NFF officials have shown zero commitment. Commitment is an action in both words and deeds. In this context the NFF have done nothing.

Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:01pm On Oct 06, 2018
Hahahahaha

BascoVanVeli:



Of course u will say it is off point when it counters what u are saying.

The fact he died in the shirt means we should take it serious and make sure whoever wears it will do it justice. If u don't understand that then we should end the convo because I am not good at talking to brick walls..
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:02pm On Oct 06, 2018
Tamunotonye22:


I think we've even forgotten about Steven Ukoh


He played for Switzerland. He is a Nigerian born.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:06pm On Oct 06, 2018
Danielnino00:



Remove Ndidi from.your list....


Ndidi was already a star in the Belgian league before he made his Nigeria debut... He was also among the best players in the Europa league the year before he moved to Leicester...

If Leicester could discover Kante and Mahrez in obscure leagues,how much more Ndidi??

Agreed with regards to Ndidi he was the stand out player in the Belguim league. With many clubs Looking at him.

Look at the young 19 year old midfielder tearing up Arsenal midfield, he came from French league 2 direct to the EPL.

Football can be crazy it seems some clubs and thier coaching staff despite thier UEFA coaching badges are just plain BUFFOONS.

That's why the club you sign for can either make or break your career. You must be true to yourself and choose a club who's philosophy and approach will complement your game.

Consider Mahrez going to Scottish club St Mirren for nearly three months in 2014 and not signed, after scoring 7 goals in 4 matches. But then it was a blessing in disguise, imagine if he had stayed they would have destroyed his progression and career.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Tamunotonye22(m): 12:12pm On Oct 06, 2018
forgiveness:


He played for Switzerland. He is a Nigerian born.


Are you correcting me? He already switched and played for us in 2015. Maybe he is out of play now cos his club profile did not even assign he a jersey number
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:14pm On Oct 06, 2018
forgiveness:


John Fashanu, Victor Anichebe, Sammy Ameobi, Hope Akpan, Sone Aluko, Josh Onomah, Eze, etc


Victor Anichebe was an injury prone player...everybody knows that.. How did we now dump him?

And you seriously mentioned Sammy Ameobi,who just like his brother was playing hide and seek with us? grin.. Was he ever even invited? grin

Josh Onomah too. When was he invited?

And how have we dumped Eze? I.dy confuse.o..

Its.only.Aluko I can agree on ...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:15pm On Oct 06, 2018
Joebie:
They didn’t rate him highly but they tried to get him to rescind his decision in the last minute. I don’t owe Iwobi’s growth to SE. Granted he did not deserve a call up to SE But I’m glad we went for him although it shouldn’t be the standard.
Sir you know England have become more aggressive in their recruiting. There are far more Nigerians in their teams than before, why is that?


To summaries, " THE POUNDED YAM " Yam no be potato.


We Africans have the Athletic ability the strength and the speed.

I was taking to a recruiter in a championship club in Yorkshire and he made it intrinsically clear to me. We need more African boys here help me find some they are the guys that have the athleticism.

I watched a game between Liverpool and Chelsea U18 all the Chelsea players apart from the goal keeper were black.

I could talk about the players of Nigerian origin that you haven't heard about in Academies but it's too early for that publicity.

So if you have a son that's got all those attributes brake him to the north of England. Where there are very few of our people in the population. If he is good they will sign him almost immediately.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:17pm On Oct 06, 2018
Danielnino00:



Victor Anichebe was an injury prone player...everybody knows that.. How did we now dump him?

And you seriously mentioned Sammy Ameobi,who just like his brother was playing hide and seek with us? grin.. Was he ever even invited? grin

Josh Onomah too. When was he invited?

And how have we dumped Eze? I.dy confuse.o..

Its.only.Aluko I can agree on ...


You can add Hope Akpan that even dislocated his shoulder playing for Nigeria when he was at Reading.

We have not invited Tega Onomah, my opinion this boy is going to EXPLODE soon. Why are we waiting to call him he has outgrown U21 football for England.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:18pm On Oct 06, 2018
komekn:


Agreed with regards to Ndidi he was the stand out player in the Belguim league. With many clubs Looking at him.

Look at the young 19 year old midfielder tearing up Arsenal midfield, he came from French league 2 direct to the EPL.

Football can be crazy it seems some clubs and thier coaching staff despite thier UEFA coaching badges are just plain BUFFOONS.

That's why the club you sign for can either make or break your career. You must be true to yourself and choose a club who's philosophy and approach will complement your game.

Consider Mahrez going to Scottish club St Mirren for nearly three months in 2014 and not signed, after scoring 7 goals in 4 matches. But then it was a blessing in disguise, imagine if he had stayed they would have destroyed his progression and career.



IMO,every footballer has got potentials... Some just need the right club, manager and environment to harness that potential...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:19pm On Oct 06, 2018
Danielnino00:



Remove Ndidi from.your list....


Ndidi was already a star in the Belgian league before he made his Nigeria debut... He was also among the best players in the Europa league the year before he moved to Leicester...

If Leicester could discover Kante and Mahrez in obscure leagues,how much more Ndidi??

Ndidi was never a star before he was called. I remembered I questioned his invitation ahead of players better than him.

Ever since they succeeded with him, they started inviting players from obscure leagues or those that are yet to prove themselves hoping them fortune go change. grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:20pm On Oct 06, 2018
komekn:


You can add Hope Akpan that even dislocated his shoulder playing for Nigeria when he was at Reading.

We have not invited Tega Onomah, my opinion this boy is going to EXPLODE soon. Why are we waiting to call him he has outgrown U21 football for England.

Players get injured while.on national team duty every time.. its normal.
But where's Hope Akpan now? is his current form good enough to deserve another call up??

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:24pm On Oct 06, 2018
Danielnino00:



IMO,every footballer has got potentials... Some just need the right club, manager and environment to harness that potential...

Agreed but some have a A LOT MORE than others.


Club, league, manager are all the various battles you will have to overcome.

Then meet or exceed expectations, for instance Sadiq Umar was brought in to Rangers to be a big strong imposing center forward. Unfortunately he looks the part but cannot deliver any of the expectations.

Meanwhile Uche Ikpeazu who plays for Hearts who are top of the Scottish premier league. Is everything that Sadiq is not.

I remember this boy when he was 18 was the top goal scorer in the U18 EPL league when he played for Reading. Scoring three hat tricks against Chelsea and Arsenal.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:25pm On Oct 06, 2018
Danielnino00:



Victor Anichebe was an injury prone player...everybody knows that.. How did we now dump him?

And you seriously mentioned Sammy Ameobi,who just like his brother was playing hide and seek with us? grin.. Was he ever even invited? grin

Josh Onomah too. When was he invited?

And how have we dumped Eze? I.dy confuse.o..

Its.only.Aluko I can agree on ...


Na lie. Victor Anichebe was abandoned when he most needed Nigeria. Imagine being abandoned after getting injury during national duty. Very painful thing.

Sammy Ameobi was with John Obuh even before he broke into the Newcastle first team. He was still ignored despite playing for EPL team.

We even dumped Lookman too because he was supposed to be with our U17 team after he passed the trials with highest distinction in London yet the guy waited tire.

No bi for ya eyes we dump Eze so after many years of come and get me please.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 12:28pm On Oct 06, 2018
forgiveness:


Ndidi was never a star before he was called. I remembered I questioned his invitation ahead of players better than him.

Ever since they succeeded with him, they started inviting players from obscure leagues or are yet to prove themselves hoping them fortune go change. grin

So u are telling me that Ndidi.was able to sign for Leicester as a successor to Kante and immediately become a starter on the back of the few caps he earned for Nigeria, one of which came with him playing at right back

Bro?

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Nobody: 12:31pm On Oct 06, 2018
komekn:


It really depends on where the players career is at.

Do you remember George Abbey played RB for Nigeria Yobo child hood friend. After playing for Nigeria he didn't go beyond Macclesfield and Port Vale finally ending up in Cyprus. It didn't boost his career.

Do you remember Danny Shittu playing for the SE nearly destroyed his career.

Consider Ademola Lookman what will playing for Nigeria do for his career. A player that Everton rejected a £25 million bid from Liepzig.

What will playing for Nigeria do for Ejaria, Seyi, Tega and Tega, Maja at thus current stage these guys are in the public eye. With a lot of clubs looking at them.

Tega and Tega, Seyi are all on over £30k a week they are not desperate.

Possibly for Chuks playing in the lowly league two it could bring him more into the view of other clubs. However if he gets a move in January to the Championship then playing for the SE will be a matter of pride and love if the Fatherland not football career progression.

This argument about foreign borns playing for Nigeria or African teams and that decision not helping their careers has been on for a while and debunked by some. Prior to the 1994 nations and world cup, Westerhof was looking at Chris Armstrong and Efan Ekoku. Chris Armstrong's coach at Crystal palace then, told him that playing for Nigeria will bring down his market value. Guess what? The following year George Weah from lowly Liberia won the European, World and African footballer of the year. In a subsequent interview Chris Armstrong stated he was wrongly advised.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by busky007: 12:35pm On Oct 06, 2018
forgiveness:


Na lie. Victor Anichebe was abandoned when he most needed Nigeria. Imagine being abandoned after getting injury during national duty. Very painful thing.

Sammy Ameobi was with John Obuh even before he broke into the Newcastle first team. He was still ignored despite playing for EPL team.

We even dumped Lookman too because he was supposed to be with our U17 team after he passed the trials with highest distinction in London yet the guy waited tire.

No bi for ya eyes we dump Eze so after many years of come and get me please.
so a year is now how many years
if he cant wait he should go and get his 60 caps atmost for england and retire
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:37pm On Oct 06, 2018
Danielnino00:


So u are telling me that Ndidi.was able to sign for Leicester as a successor to Kante and immediately become a starter on the back of the few caps he earned for Nigeria, one of which came with him playing at right back

Bro?

Without SE cap he will not get more playing time in Genk and his stock will not rise.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 12:40pm On Oct 06, 2018
Danielnino00:



Victor Anichebe was an injury prone player...everybody knows that.. How did we now dump him?


Anichebe was aggrieved and rightly so. He got seriously injured in Nigerian colours and no one in the Nigerian federation gave him a call to check on his health.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:41pm On Oct 06, 2018
Danielnino00:


Players get injured while.on national team duty every time.. its normal.
But where's Hope Akpan now? is his current form good enough to deserve another call up??

He got injured and was unceremoniously forgotten intentionally he was still at Reading at this stage. He and Aluko would go to Nigeria together on national assignment. I could tell you more about the conduct of the NFF but you may not believe and to what purpose.

Currently Long story.

Reading got relegated, he eventually went to Blackburn who got relegated, then Burton who got relegated some could call it bad luck.

He is now at Bradford in league one probably highest paid player. He is good enough in my opinion but not playing good football and he is not the outstanding player in his league although currently injured. But then is Ogu and Joel Obi better than him, ❓ I Really do not know.

However, my view without prejudice is that Chuks Aneke is better than all of them and he is in league two. You may find that strange

This is the conundrum sometimes that's it's harder to play good football in a physically intensive taxing league than a more technical one. So if you can in that environment are you better
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 12:42pm On Oct 06, 2018
busky007:
so a year is now how many years
if he cant wait he should go and get his 60 caps atmost for england and retire

Nigerians are just proud for nothing. Here we have a player winning motm, making team of the week and currently the club's best player of the month but we should continue to wait, for who? Kelechi Nwakali? shocked

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 12:44pm On Oct 06, 2018
forgiveness:


Nigerians are just proud for nothing. Here we have a player winning motm, making team of the week and currently the club's best player of the month should continue to wait, for who? Kelechi Nwakali? shocked

Why you do worry yourself.

As Falz said, " THIS IS NIGERIA "

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