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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 1:24pm On Oct 09, 2018
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I don't see any problems here. This is the kind of competition we crave for. Kalu practically took the slot of Moses in the squad. So how did we cope when Simon and Moses were in the team? Although then we can say Musa was not a starter but now looks more likely to start games.

We need the abilities of both Simon and Kalu. If Musa starts then one of the two has to drop to the bench and maybe come in as a sub. It only means more value added to the bench.


If Iwobi is deployed as a no.10, then either of Simeon and Kalu will start..

I'd prefer Onyekuru there though grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Magink: 1:25pm On Oct 09, 2018
tbaba1234:


Eze was a low hanging fruit. No junior caps for scotland or England. All we needed to do was call him and get him committed.

Rohr messed up big time and to think we had the opportunity to Cap him last year but failed.I don't know why we like to make simple things difficult in this part. I actually say an article where he said he prefers Nigeria to England but they took it down don't know why. Also Josh Maja should be invited he is on the rise.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:26pm On Oct 09, 2018
edi287:

You know Rohr too well. The biggest "risk" he'll take is starting Moses Simon.

That's true. I am just trying to read his mind.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:26pm On Oct 09, 2018
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Nna it is only if u can caputure the Angels in heaven that you can caputure me.......

Angels in heaven? Piece of cake... wink My sat tech even picks out the Four creature things especially that one with the head of an Eagle. grin

So to pick you out in that realm? Lol... Very simpu sturv...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 1:28pm On Oct 09, 2018
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My brother I tire.

My Elder Brother who is a Historian used to tell me he wished we were colonised by France and not Britain.

Look at even the economy of these Francophone countries. Very stable. Those in West Africa even have a common currency, the CFA, which allows for ease of trade across these countries as they even share boundaries. Compare with the anglophone West Africa: Nigeria, Ghana, Sierra Leone, Liberia and Gambia. All I see is hardship and Wars. Thank God we are blessed with Oil. Who knows how poor Nigeria would have been today?

Nigeria might be a lot better off today if we never discovered oil.. We relied on agriculture in the past and our economy wasn't that bad... oil made our leaders lazy and greedy.. Oil made them neglect other sectors of the economy... There are many country out there who depend on agriculture and are doing quite well...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Magink: 1:30pm On Oct 09, 2018
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If it because of Eze, we can still get him after he plays for the England U20.
The problem here Sir is that it will take a long process which could have been avoided earlier. If he gets to play in the friendly he will be under the radar of Southgate and southgate has been calling up a lot of young players now.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:30pm On Oct 09, 2018
tbaba1234:


The north african countries are in a different situation from others. They do not have their national reserves stuck in France or pay colonial taxes. France only allows them to withdraw a certain percentage from their national reserves per year.

According to one report, African countries pay as much as 440 billion euros to France as taxes every year.

These countries had to pay for the infrastructure built by the colonial masters when they got their independence.

France has the exclusive right to provide military equipment and train their officers.

The sheer control over these countries keeps them poor.

Despite all these do you know that mineral rich Anglophone nations like Sierra Leone and Liberia are ranked lower than the poorest Francophone nations in terms of per capita income?

France has a great influence on their economies. Yes they pay taxes to cover for the infrastructures provided by their colonial masters but this French interest in their economy makes them better of than some Anglophone countries that are in total control of theirs.

I agree with the military support and training but I even see it as being better than leaving it in the hands of corrupt dictators.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:33pm On Oct 09, 2018
Too early for Josh Maja. His time will come. He is doing very well in league one but it's not his time just yet in the Eagles fold.


Magink:


Rohr messed up big time and to think we had the opportunity to Cap him last year but failed.I don't know why we like to make simple things difficult in this part. I actually say an article where he said he prefers Nigeria to England but they took it down don't know why. Also Josh Maja should be invited he is on the rise.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by comodo: 1:36pm On Oct 09, 2018
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Chiiiineke............!!!! Nna stopu this tin today bu kwa Tuesday.

These things always make me miss December. Chai!!
Na only this I fit give you. Just find Udi palmwine take send am down.
I think i am a brothers keeper.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:39pm On Oct 09, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Good for a debate wink And I know just the gladiators that can do battle in the debate arena on this if they so choose to. Forgiveness and Chriskels. It is a no-brainer cheesy #SoarSuperEagles


What does Moses Simon's recall mean for Samuel Kalu?
By Solace Chukwu, Correspondent




The return of one of Gernot Rohr's trusted lieutenants could have grave consequences for the continued growth of the Super Eagles

The impact of Moses Simon 's injury on Nigeria's World Cup campaign has perhaps not been given the column inches it deserves.
For the entirety of the Super Eagles' World Cup qualifying campaign, Gernot Rohr stayed committed to his preferred shape: a 4-2-3-1, with two deep ball-winners and Simon, a repurposed inside-forward, holding the width on the right side of midfield.
It worked, as the results attested. The former Gent man was restrained in his attacking movements, but was disciplined enough to fulfill his tactical duties: providing a counterweight to Victor Moses' roaming from the left, allowing Shehu Abdullahi - a converted midfielder - to tuck inside rather than bomb forward, and also protecting the right full-back zone in defensive transitions.

Losing him necessitated a switch to a 3-5-2, but Rohr did not seem convinced by that shape, and stubbornly tried to plug Alex Iwobi, a totally different sort of player, into the role for the opening group hame against Croatia. It failed spectacularly, and the German shed his stubbornness subsequently, but the damage was done in a 2-0 defeat.
It would be a stretch to say Simon's injury cost Nigeria a place in the Round of 16, but not by much.



That makes this weekend's Africa Cup of Nations qualifier against Libya intriguing indeed, and that because it challenges Rohr to make a decision between his own staid pragmatism and the continued growth of his Super Eagles build.
As Simon nursed back to full fitness, Samuel Kalu seemed to rise out of the blue.
They were, of course, teammates at Gent last season, but Kalu's move to Ligue 1 side Bordeaux suddenly shone a light on his immense talents.
It seemed odd that he was not considered leading up to the Mundial, even if it would have been a left-field call, as he is more naturally a wide player who can stretch the play and deliver crosses.
Surely, if Rohr was able to keep tabs on Simon, he must have noticed Kalu as well, who had a more eye-catching season?




In any case, the 20-year-old made his international debut last month against Seychelles, playing in Simon's position on the right, and impressed in winning a second-half penalty. However, with Simon back in the fold, might Rohr be tempted to revert to his preferred system and personnel?
The evidence would definitely suggest precisely that. The 64-year-old is fiercely loyal, even when it is manifestly not in the common interest.
Simon, aside his tactical conscientiousness, is reportedly one of the German's favourites in the national team set-up, and will be favourite to regain his position in the side, in spite of the fact he has only played a total of 49 league minutes this term for new club Levante.
While this is in keeping with Rohr's general preference, it would be a shame to see Kalu miss out.



Even with the uncertainty over the team's optimal shape, the World Cup exposed the need for evolution within the set-up.

If the relative inexperience of the side meant Rohr was keen to play the underdog, the logical next step would be to expand on that safety-first approach, to flesh it out and make the team more comfortable playing on the front foot.
Kalu embodies that progression, being a more natural winger, as well as being quicker and a superior dribbler. If the side is to become a more coherent, potent creation, it is important to embrace square pegs in square holes.
Even more so, it is important to embrace merit. Rohr is somewhat justified, in that international football can be an unforgiving terrain for the inexperienced.

However, to continue to hide behind that borders on cowardice, and will continue to keep the side from fulfilling its destiny.


Source: Goal

The writer is an olodo rabata because both don't play the same role.

Simon is a LW while Samuel is a RW. How does that affect each other?

Na wa ooooo.

Simon is up against, Ahmed, Iwobi and Onyekuru while Samuel is up against Isaac Success.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 1:43pm On Oct 09, 2018
forgiveness:


The writer is an olodo rabata because both don't play the same role.

Simon is a LW while Samuel is a RW. How does that affect each other?

Na wa ooooo.

Simon is up against, Ahmed, Iwobi and Onyekuru while Samuel is up against Isaac Success.

But Simeon also plays RW .. When he and Moses start,they always switch flanks during games..
I think all the wingers in our team can play RW and LW well...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Icon4s(m): 1:44pm On Oct 09, 2018
Danielnino00:


Nigeria might be a lot better off today if we never discovered oil.. We relied on agriculture in the past and our economy wasn't that bad... oil made our leaders lazy and greedy.. Oil made them neglect other sectors of the economy... There are many country out there who depend on agriculture and are doing quite well...

I was expecting this argument to come up.

Yes Agriculture supported our economy way back in the 50s and 60s. But that was just adequate for that time and generation. Have you checked what our GDP was then? Nigeria was largely rural as at then. Dominated by peasants that cultivated enough to feed their families without depending on salaries from Government work.

Dependence on Agriculture would not have been sustained. The South Eastern region was leading in the area of Oil Palm production followed by the Midwest. Where are the arable forests today that would have carried the Oil Palm plantation that will both feed the nation and form the GDP for the economy. Same goes for the Cocoa from the Western Region. Do you think the yams from the middle belt would be enough to feed a population of 200Million people today and still form s large part of our GDP? What is the economic value of Cotton and groundnuts currently?

We are talking about agricultural revolution, agricultural revolution. No matter how the current governments try it would be difficult to make Agriculture the main stay of our economy.

Some other countries are investing in technology, and human intelligence. Look at Japan and China. That is the way to go in the 21st century. Investing in Agriculture is good for food security but not as a main stay of the economy. The World is moving.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:46pm On Oct 09, 2018
Lol... Calm down and consider the stand of the writer.

He says this under the light of Ahmed Musa being a sure starter in the team now especially from the left. Simon Moses is one of Rohr's key players without a doubt and can function on both flanks even though he is predominantly a LW. Remember Simon is two footed I believe even though he uses his right more often. So now, in the presence of an Ahmed Musa on the left... Where does that leave Simon? On the bench or on the right where a newbie in Kalu started from in his first game? That is the perspective.



forgiveness:


The writer is an olodo rabata because both don't play the same role.

Simon is a LW while Samuel is a RW. How does that affect each other?

Na wa ooooo.

Simon is up against, Ahmed, Iwobi and Onyekuru while Samuel is up against Isaac Success.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Afobear: 1:49pm On Oct 09, 2018
ChrisKels:


Hahahahaha onye iberibe. Nwanne kedu ka o si ada na mbammiri? Hwfa, aha gi oputala na ndi ga-eje ife ala nna?
Kedu otu ejiri Mara na mu ga-eso ndi ga eje Ife ala nna ? Ibu mmuo?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 1:49pm On Oct 09, 2018
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I was expecting this argument to come up.

Yes Agriculture supported our economy way back in the 50s and 60s. But that was just adequate for that time and generation. Have you checked what our GDP was then? Nigeria was largely rural as at then. Dominated by peasants that cultivated enough to feed their families without depending on salaries from Government work.

Dependence on Agriculture would not have been sustained. The South Eastern region was leading in the area of Oil Palm production followed by the Midwest. Where are the arable forests today that would have carried the Oil Palm plantation that will both feed the nation and form the GDP for the economy. Same goes for the Cocoa from the Western Region. Do you think the yams from the middle belt would be enough to feed a population of 200Million people today? What is the economic value of Cotton and groundnuts currently?

We are talking about agricultural revolution, agricultural revolution. No matter how the current governments try it would be difficult to make Agriculture the main stay of our economy.

Some other countries are investing in technology, and human intelligence. Look at Japan and China. That is the way to go in the 21st century. Investing in Agriculture is good for food security but not as a main stay of the economy. The World is moving.

You are right sir.. What I meant was that we would still be better off today if we hadn't discovered oil.. Aside agriculture, our leaders would have put more effort in other sectors... That would have been a huge boost for us..
The discovery of oil was a blessing and at the same time a curse...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:51pm On Oct 09, 2018
charlesemeka85:
Sunderland hotshot Josh Maja is attracting Premier League interest.

The Mirror says Manchester City, Tottenham and Southampton are keeping tabs on Maja.

Teenage striker Maja is attracting top-flight interest after scoring an impressive nine goals in just 12 league games for the Black Cats.

Londoner Maja, 19, is well-known at City as he was on their books earlier in his career and also played for Crystal Palace and Fulham .

But City chose not to offer him a scholarship in 2015 and he joined Sunderland.


Na so dis one go commot for our very eyes. Na wa ooooo.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 1:53pm On Oct 09, 2018
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Na Ogida you dey?

Off Siluko road
Naim my Papa house dey oo and Na there i grow. textile mill road Benin city.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 1:54pm On Oct 09, 2018
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Na Ogida you dey?

Off Siluko road
Naim my Papa house dey oo and Na there i grow. Off siluko, textile mill road Benin city.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:54pm On Oct 09, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Lol... Calm down and consider the stand of the writer.

He says this under the light of Ahmed Musa being a sure starter in the team now especially from the left. Simon Moses is one of Rohr's key players without a doubt and can function on both flanks even though he is predominantly a LW. Remember Simon is two footed I believe even though he uses his right more often. So now, in the presence of an Ahmed Musa on the left... Where does that leave Simon? On the bench or on the right where a newbie in Kalu started from in his first game? That is the perspective.




On the bench. That's all.

The boy played well in the last game and it's expected he rewards his hard work with another start. If at all Rohr wants a change in the RW, then he should give it to Success not Simon.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 1:56pm On Oct 09, 2018
Super Eagles camp update

As at 12 noon, Naija time... 12 players in camp.

-William Troost-Ekong

-Semi Ajayi

-Isaac Success

-Moses Simon

-Ahmed Musa

-Alex Iwobi

-Shehu Abdullahi

-Leon Balogun

-Samuel Kalu

-Ikechukwu Ezenwa

-Jamilu Collins

-Ola Aina

En route to Uyo at the time of report: Kenneth omeruo, onyekuru, etebo and onazi (over an hour ago).

Courtesy: SoarSuperEagles

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:56pm On Oct 09, 2018
Danielnino00:


But Simeon also plays RW .. When he and Moses start,they always switch flanks during games..
I think all the wingers in our team can play RW and LW well...

No no no. Simon is always on the LW.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 1:57pm On Oct 09, 2018
ChrisKels:


I put it to u, u are igbo and u are a tribalist. U be bini yet u are supporting players with chi in their names and also supporting players with olorun and oluwa in their names? in fact, u are igbo. As long as u dont have same mindset as GiwaDalung, u are igbo. As long as u are open minded, u are Igbo, as long as u dont support mediocrity, u are igbo, as long as u stand for justice and dont have any tribal inclination, u are igbo grin grin
don’t mind that chief priest of tribalist (forgiveness) lol
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 1:59pm On Oct 09, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Super Eagles camp update

As at 12 noon, Naija time... 12 players in camp.

-William Troost-Ekong

-Semi Ajayi

-Isaac Success

-Moses Simon

-Ahmed Musa

-Alex Iwobi

-Shehu Abdullahi

-Leon Balogun

-Samuel Kalu

-Ikechukwu Ezenwa

-Jamilu Collins

-Ola Aina

En route to Uyo at the time of report: Kenneth omeruo, onyekuru, etebo and onazi (over an hour ago).

Courtesy: SoarSuperEagles

Hahahaha! I know say most of those whose fate are ,!? will mark register on time. grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by tbaba1234: 1:59pm On Oct 09, 2018
forgiveness:


No no no. Simon is always on the LW.

Simon has played on the right for Nigeria.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:00pm On Oct 09, 2018
tbaba1234:


Simon has played on the right for Nigeria.

Just once.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 2:03pm On Oct 09, 2018
Indeed Simon may start from the bench but it is not that certain. And also, Simon has been a regular in the team and is also a key player. So there is no way Rohr will consider Success over Simon at RW even though Simon is predominantly a LW. Besides Success was invited as a CF not a RW. This is why there is no Simy on the list.
Simon can play with both feet comfortably well. He can play both left wing and right wing even though he is majorly a LW (which sees him often cut into his stronger right foot).
So it is in this light that he stands a small chance of starting on the right just in case Rohr benches Kalu.




forgiveness:


On the bench. That's all.

The boy played well in the last game and it's expected he rewards him with another start. If at all Rohr wants a change in the RW, then he should give it to Success not Simon.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 2:03pm On Oct 09, 2018
forgiveness:


No no no. Simon is always on the LW.

Let me refer u back to our game against Zambia in Ndola where Iwobi played LW and Simeon RW..Against south Africa in Uyo it was the same..against Cameroon and Zambia in Uyo he also played RW though he switched to LW with Moses sometimes. I watched one of d game he played for Levante this season where he came in the second half and played RW .. Maybe he used to play predominantly at LW in Gent,but for the super eagles under Rohr,it's mostly RW.
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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by forgiveness: 2:03pm On Oct 09, 2018
kellycute:
he was way better than your mediocre ighalo so I wasn’t surprise you didn’t showed up as usual to do your thing “pulling down”. So you can sleep well at night despite supporting a mediocre player who managed to scored only 3goals (penalty) in three years? This is really ridiculous.

He is also a tribalist na. grin Don't you think so? grin
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by ChrisKels: 2:05pm On Oct 09, 2018
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See, if we were in the same situation as Ivory Coast, we would have disbanded our team sacked our coach and shopped for new players.
Their golden generation of players is gone. Their football is on the downward trend and so they needed this massive influx.

But we have a team that dominated its WCQ group and featured at the WC. We cannot pull this team down. All we need do is to build on it. If you look at this team from when Rohr played his first game to date will you say there have not been so many inclusions?

If it because of Eze, we can still get him after he plays for the England U20.



My dear, their past is what it is, this is the present. Compared to the recently passed era of theirs, maybe they are still a step or two behind in terms of personnels but not as a team. And as downward as u claim they are, they are presently one of the best 3 teams in Africa. They are up there with Senegal and Morocco. To me, talent wise, they even trump Morocco. They realised their mistakes and are making corrections. yes they already have the players but yet, they aint resting on their oars, they are still as aggressive as they were when this rebuilding exercise started, now they can boast of a great dept compared to many Afroteams.

Just check their CD options;

Baily Manchester United

Gbamin is wanted by Arsenal and is tipped as the rep for Baily at ManU come January.
Gnagnon Sevilla

Djidji Torino

Traore Angers

Lamine Strassborgh

Dabila Lille

Bamba cardif

Boly Wolves

Et al

If I list their options in the midfield, trust me person go faint

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 2:06pm On Oct 09, 2018
TheSuperNerd:
Indeed Simon may start from the bench but it is not that certain. And also, Simon has been a regular in the team and is also a key player. So there is no way Rohr will consider Success over Simon at RW even though Simon is predominantly a LW. Besides Success was invited as a CF not a RW. This is why there is no Simy on the list.
Simon can play with both feet comfortably well. He can play both left wing and right wing even though he is majorly a LW (which sees him often cut into his stronger right foot).
So it is in this light that he stands a small chance of starting on the right just in case Rohr benches Kalu.






Simeon has played mostly at RW for Nigeria... Try and recall the games he has played for us..
And of course, he is ahead of Kalu in the national team.. If Kalu starts ahead of him,its simply because he has not played much this season...
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Danielnino00(m): 2:10pm On Oct 09, 2018
ChrisKels:




My dear, their past is what it is, this is the present. Compared to the recently passed era of theirs, maybe they are still a step or two behind in terms of personnels but not as a team. And as downward as u claim they are, they are presently one of the best 3 teams in Africa. They are up there with Senegal and Morocco. To me, talent wise, they even trump Morocco. They realised their mistakes and are making corrections. yes they already have the players but yet, they aint resting on their oars, they are still as aggressive as they were when this rebuilding exercise started, now they can boast of a great dept compared to many Afroteams.

Just check their CD options;

Baily Manchester United

Gbamin is wanted by Arsenal and is tipped as the rep for Baily at ManU come January.
Gnagnon Sevilla

Djidji Torino

Traore Angers

Lamine Strassborgh

Dabila Lille

Bamba cardif

Boly Wolves

Et al

If I list their options in the midfield, trust me person go faint


Don't count ur chicks before they hatch... The ivory coast team of Drogba era was well loaded with talents they played very well.. They were tipped for great things..but how far did they go??
They couldn't even beat an average Zambia team in the afcon final....
This present squad of theirs is good too, but until they achieve something meaningful, na to siddon dy look o

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2023, 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 2:10pm On Oct 09, 2018
ChrisKels:


It is painful. We would even have been better off with the Portuguese but for the strong witches from kellycute and his fellow binis, though, if the Portuguese had stayed, I doubt there would have been any amalgamation. The present day Nigeria would atleast, av been four different countries with bini the smallest just like Togo
lol.. atleast we were trying to protect our territory (the great benin kingdom).

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