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Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by Ihateyoumod: 12:16am On Oct 11, 2018
chronique:
I'd keep on telling Nigerians how useless the man called buhari is, and why he isn't fit to occupy his current office or any political office at all.

buhari signed an executive order tagged VOARS(voluntary offshore assets regularization scheme) with the view to checking money laundering. Under this law, Nigerian tax payers are expected to voluntarily declare all offshore assets and incomes earned to the federal government. This normally should have been a bright idea in fighting corruption but as usual, the dull thing had to spoil it by insisting that holders of such offshore assets would be mandated to pay taxes on those assets.

Now, there are Nigerians who live and work both in Nigeria and outside Nigeria. Most of these people are business men. So when they hold assets in Nigeria, they are mandated to pay taxes to the government. This isn't a problem. Where there is a problem, is asking them to pay taxes on offshore assets that are already being heavily taxed by foreign governments of those countries thereby, leading to multiple taxation. How on earth do you want to collect taxes for assets that are not under your control and jurisdiction? What benefits would accrue to the holders of these assets "if" they pay these taxes? Would the government be providing security for these assets or providing infrastructures that would improve and enhance the value of these assets? If there are no visible benefits the holders of these assets are getting, what then is the need to tax them? This is just a blatant attempt to take advantage of the citizens while offering them nothing in return. This executive order is totally unacceptable and should not be allowed to stand without modifications. I am in support of declaring all assets but taxing them is tantamount to committing armed robbery.

Do u have a business abroad??....does this order affect u in any way. Do u even have d capacity to set up a business here not to talk of offshore. U DT doesn't have a penny will wail more than those tht d order affects

Have u asked urself if other countries, western countries do d same??...let those who it affects speak for themselves, what u should be concerned is his it affects u, does it affect u positively or negatively. I don't see how this order affects d common man negatively

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Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by Jahwinaboy(m): 12:19am On Oct 11, 2018
Chasing political enemies is what we barristers call " Exercise in futility " or simply put, "chasing shadows"

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Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by NairaMaster1(m): 12:23am On Oct 11, 2018
Buhari and tax

Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by blackgold2018(m): 12:25am On Oct 11, 2018
I'm yet to see another benefit yet to be mentioned. To avoid double taxation from your host country n Nigerian Gov.. Investments in Nigeria (by Nigerians) will increase.

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Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by Timi1990(m): 12:25am On Oct 11, 2018
This Buhari govt is a big joker . Even the USA govt is finding it very hard to crack down Tax invaders particularly those that hide their assets in the Middle East, Eastern Europe , Asia & Africa . Ordinary Tax collected in Nigeria, govt can’t give a proper account of what they’ve spend the money on ; well this is just another senseless law from this govt.

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Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by FarahAideed: 12:31am On Oct 11, 2018
Ihateyoumod:


Do u have a business abroad??....does this order affect u in any way. Do u even have d capacity to set up a business here not to talk of offshore. U DT doesn't have a penny will wail more than those tht d order affects

Have u asked urself if other countries, western countries do d same??...let those who it affects speak for themselves, what u should be concerned is his it affects u, does it affect u positively or negatively. I don't see how this order affects d common man negatively

Keep kwayet and learn from her jare ..she is far smarter than you will ever be

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Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by JayMarx: 12:36am On Oct 11, 2018
Jaideyone:
mumu talk. keep making a fool of yourself.

the law is targeted at getting money from Nigerians that are rich so the money can be used to repair roads and build public hospitals and schools that the poor and average people like you and I will benefit from more but you are still complaining.

your education is a waste!!!

Stop embarrassing yourself, young man.
Which you and who? Count yourself in not me. The royalties that they get from oil companies, they've not used it to build schools for you that's "poor", you're talking about an unrealistic venture that would not work.
I repeat again. What is the rationale of paying a tax to Nigeria when your business or you don't have the protection or influence of your country?
So you mean I would pay 35% tax on money I made abroad because of what?
Remember this post. I say remember it! You would see everything crumble like a pack of card.

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Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by chronique(m): 12:37am On Oct 11, 2018
Ihateyoumod:


Do u have a business abroad??....does this order affect u in any way. Do u even have d capacity to set up a business here not to talk of offshore. U DT doesn't have a penny will wail more than those tht d order affects

Have u asked urself if other countries, western countries do d same??...let those who it affects speak for themselves, what u should be concerned is his it affects u, does it affect u positively or negatively. I don't see how this order affects d common man negatively

Idiot, me and you no be mate. I've been running a fully registered business in Nigeria for more than 10 yrs now and of course, the policy concerns me cos in the coming years, I'm definitely moving into that category. So speak for your pathetic self. Not everyone online is a riff raff like you.

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Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by Rooy57(m): 12:39am On Oct 11, 2018
Racoon:
What utter cluelessness! Violating the sovereignity of a country by coming to collect tax therein? Are Nigerians residing off-shore not paying taxes already to their host countries

Will this misplace policy applies to foreign multi-conglomerate companies doing business in Nigeria with branches/headquarters oversea e.g.MTN, Shopright, UAC etc?

See how the president is disgracing Nigeria still by exporting his cluelessness internationally This will definitively lead to diplomatic row with any country concerned.Any wonder he have F9 in economics and maths? cry

Actually I had to quote you on this point. The man is not wrong if you must know. There is what we called "Income from abroad" while calculating National income in economics. It is sometimes refers to as GNP and it does not lead to double taxation or violate tax law. Please read up, we are all learning

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Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by sokera: 12:41am On Oct 11, 2018
I swear Nigeria youths are disgraceful, how can a country with a large unemployment rate be angry at a policy that would eventually discourage Nigerians from investment abroad ... Buhari they hate you so much that they can’t even see anything positive from all you have done ... Anyway Sowore is my president

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Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by Timi1990(m): 12:42am On Oct 11, 2018
Rooy57:


Actually I had to quote you on this point. The man is not wrong if you must know. There is what we called "Income from abroad" while calculating National income in economics. It is sometimes refers to as GNP and it does not lead to double taxation or violate tax law. Please read up, we are all learning

How would this not lead to double Taxation? Please explain ; I want to learn
Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by Timi1990(m): 12:44am On Oct 11, 2018
sokera:
I swear Nigeria youths are disgraceful, how can a country with a large unemployment rate be angry at a policy that would eventually discourage Nigerians from investment abroad ... Buhari they hate you so much that they can’t even see anything positive from all you have done ... Anyway Sowore is my president

Why would anyone in Nigeria not invest abroad ? The govt haven’t done anything to attract investors

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Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by linearity: 12:54am On Oct 11, 2018
Racoon:
What utter cluelessness! Violating the sovereignity of a country by coming to collect tax therein? Are Nigerians residing off-shore not paying taxes already to their host countries

Will this misplace policy applies to foreign multi-conglomerate companies doing business in Nigeria with branches/headquarters oversea e.g.MTN, Shopright, UAC etc?

See how the president is disgracing Nigeria still by exporting his cluelessness internationally This will definitively lead to diplomatic row with any country concerned.Any wonder he have F9 in economics and maths? cry

The order targets Nigerian tax payers.

If you are a Nigerian residing abroad and does not pay tax in Nigeria, by definition this executive order does not affect you.

I don’t see it as violating the sovereign right of any country...this policy is even limited compare to what other countries do...e.g. if you are a US citizen, you are required to file for taxes regardless of your country of residency or dual citizenship. Also, if you reside in the US, you must declare all foreign incomes when you file your US taxes.

As a US Citizen, National, Permanent Resident (living in the US or abroad) or resident you are only reliefs of filing for taxes of incomes earned locally or abroad if:

1. You are dead.
2. Earn below specified minimum income level for your tax category.
3. You renounce US citizenship.

Even, Illegal US Residents, who are working illegally and earning income either under the table or otherwise are legally obligated to pay taxes.

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Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by Yankee101: 12:54am On Oct 11, 2018
unitysheart:


Before you rant, check if USA and other countries do the same.

Google is your friend.

The same Google will tell you the same US has treaties to avoid double taxation
Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by Ihateyoumod: 1:25am On Oct 11, 2018
chronique:


Idiot, me and you no be mate. I've been running a fully registered business in Nigeria for more than 10 yrs now and of course, the policy concerns me cos in the coming years, I'm definitely moving into that category. So speak for your pathetic self. Not everyone online is a riff raff like you.


Ur insults mean nothing to me. Its clear I spoke the truth to u and reminded u of ur broke ass life so u do as expected throw insults and brag about how u wish ur life to be

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Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by Ihateyoumod: 1:29am On Oct 11, 2018
FarahAideed:


Keep kwayet and learn from her jare ..she is far smarter than you will ever be

Coming from someone who cannot differentiate between gender. Sorry I'll pass
Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by BestDude: 1:33am On Oct 11, 2018
AmazingELixir:
grin

PMB is inviting both corporate and billionaires gang up against his government

2nd wise statement so far.

These guy has just shot himself on the foot. Dangote, Tinubu are on this table ooo
Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by BestDude: 1:43am On Oct 11, 2018
ezigr8:
How 9ja go take better when hatred don blind our judgement? Nigeria can't move forward with such mentality of ours.

Instead of us analysing it possibility and legality critically we jump in to condemn the scheme. Advanced countries have such laws in place.

Some persons did not even read the content before commenting to condemn Buhari to know whether or not it is beneficial to the country. No wonder a scholar once said, the illiterate of the 21st century is not one who can not read nor write but one who can not learn, relearn and unlearn.

Is Nigeria an advance country? Anybody using this stupid line is an idiot. Suddenly, you a remember US. Will US leave someone like Leah Shuabu in captivity? U want to copy US when you can't even do 1/4 of what they do for their citizens.

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Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by BestDude: 1:46am On Oct 11, 2018
Jaideyone:
you are definitely out of your senses.

the question is do many other countries have similar laws?

and this is a government that is trying to get money from the 0.01% and give it to build Hospitals and roads 99.99% will benefit from!!!

of the money will be used well then it's a good thing!!!

he's trying to take from the rich to better the lives of the poor!!!

You are silly... Since Buhari came into power, all his policies is almost how to extract money from any place possible. Even to make MTN transfer now, u have to pay N3 per transfer.

My friend get out of my sight. Iranu osi.
Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by sokera: 2:18am On Oct 11, 2018
Timi1990:


Why would anyone in Nigeria not invest abroad ? The govt haven’t done anything to attract investors
Aiit , if companies from SA can come invest in Nigeria I see no reason Nigerians won’t invest here ... let me tell you those people investing abroad are corrupt politicians trying to hide their invest out of the country to avoid investigations... be wise and don’t be sentimental...

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Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by Maski87: 2:20am On Oct 11, 2018
You cannot be serious
Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by stchinedu: 2:45am On Oct 11, 2018
Jaideyone:
see a lot of illiterates insulting buhari when it's obvious developed countries have similar laws


a simple Google search could have saved this multitude from embarrassing themselves.


btw 99.9999% of the people crying don't even own a pin abroad o grin


https://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance/expat-money/9760320/How-to-escape-the-offshore-property-tax-trap.html

https://international-adviser.com/surprise-dip-offshore-held-property-tax/


https://www.which.co.uk/money/tax/income-tax/tax-on-property-and-rental-income/tax-on-overseas-property-acq0f5m4vw5v

Reading is one thing understanding is anoda thing... Im now certain U ppl have mucus in ur heads for brains... If U cannot read and cannot understand, don't go about exposing how dumb U are... Here's wat d UK legislation says...
[b]
On December 11, the Government published draft legislation outlining new taxes and charges which will have to be paid by offshore companies which own property in the UK. Although a consultation document on the topic was issued in May, there have been some significant changes since then – and property owners should start to plan accordingly before the laws come into force.
The main features of the proposed legislation will affect properties which are valued at more than £2 million and which are owned by “non-natural persons”. (This is a reference to foreign companies, partnerships, funds and the like, not to persons with strange personal habits.)
Previously many foreign buyers of UK property have chosen to register their properties in the name of an offshore company in order to eradicate UK inheritance tax (IHT), which would otherwise be charged at 40 per cent on the whole value of the property, after allowances, upon the death of the owner. Offshore company ownership also facilitated the avoidance of stamp duty (SDLT), as any subsequent sale of the property could be affected by a transfer of the shares in the company, leaving the title to the property in the UK unaltered.
But all that is about to change. Offshore companies which own property worth over £2 million will now be faced with:
1. An annual charge of a minimum of £15,000 and a maximum of £140,000 depending on value. The new tax is called Annual Residential Property Tax (ARPT)

[/b]

Which part of dis document says d UK taxes it's citizens for foreign properties abeg?? D document simply says d UK will now tax OFFSHORE COMAPNIES who own PROPERTIES IN THE UK!!!! not in their countries

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Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by positivethought: 2:57am On Oct 11, 2018
unitysheart:


Before you rant, check if USA and other countries do the same.

Google is your friend.
other countries collect taxes on properties own by offshore companies in their countries n not on properties own by the citizens in foreign countries, you are the type of people wrongly advising the dullard n cheering him on to his foolish political demised.

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Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by olmoRoc: 2:59am On Oct 11, 2018
Truth be told, several western countries actually tax income earned abroad by their citizens. However, Nigeria has never given me anything, so I'll never adhere to such military dictatorship executive orders.

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Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by Billygee2u: 3:04am On Oct 11, 2018
Racoon:
What utter cluelessness! Violating the sovereignity of a country by coming to collect tax therein? Are Nigerians residing off-shore not paying taxes already to their host countries

Will this misplace policy applies to foreign multi-conglomerate companies doing business in Nigeria with branches/headquarters oversea e.g.MTN, Shopright, UAC etc?

See how the president is disgracing Nigeria still by exporting his cluelessness internationally This will definitively lead to diplomatic row with any country concerned.Any wonder he have F9 in economics and maths? cry
Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by Billygee2u: 3:05am On Oct 11, 2018
FarahAideed:
Buhari has gone mad ...The executive order is not even clear at all? Is it targeted at assets made from earnings in Nigeria ( earnings already taxed in Nigeria) or Asset owned offshore as result of income earned offshore ? Buhari is not sensible at all!!!

This is Clearly a ploy to arrest and lock up Atiku for Tax evasion ........I can read the dullard like a book
Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by Billygee2u: 3:07am On Oct 11, 2018
Racoon:

When all the government does is a propaganda media antigraft fight? Putting alleged corrupt persons on trial then go sourcing for incriminating evidence?

Still affiirming that the government lopsided anti-
corruption war is just a charade.Even this executive order is only directed to those on the government black book otherwise why was it not initiated when the Buratai Dubai assets were discoverd?
Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by Timi1990(m): 3:09am On Oct 11, 2018
sokera:
Aiit , if companies from SA can come invest in Nigeria I see no reason Nigerians won’t invest here ... let me tell you those people investing abroad are corrupt politicians trying to hide their invest out of the country to avoid investigations... be wise and don’t be sentimental...

There are average Nigerians who have assets in Ghana , South Africa, Uk and USA ; the reason why they invest in those countries is because of their stable economy, security of assets and social infrastructure available. Tell me if any of this is available in Nigeria ?
Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by Timi1990(m): 3:10am On Oct 11, 2018
positivethought:
other countries collect taxes on properties own by offshore companies in their countries n not on properties own by the citizens in foreign countries, you are the type of people wrongly advising the dullard n cheering him on to his foolish political demised.

Other countries that you’re using as examples have well planned social and welfare infrastructure for all their citizens; Nigeria doesn’t have any
Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by Daboomb: 3:21am On Oct 11, 2018
I am really disappointed with the QUALITY of the Nigerian educational system, going by the comments of young Nigerians on this thread.
Who did we offend, that has caused our Youths with gleeful ignorance?



Just read the way they're abusing their President, on something they themselves are completely clueless about?
Instead of asking questions and learning, these doffus are quick and eager to showcase their ignorance and stupidity.
All of you on the first page of this thread are a disgrace to your names and whatever school you attended.

FYI, many countries, including America, Ireland, Mexico, Canada, Denmark, Greece, U.K, South Korea, Saudi Arabia, North Korea, Australia, Argentian, Algeria, China, and many, many African countries, including Cameroun, Chad, Congo, CAR, Burundi, Burkina Faso, Cape verde, benin, Egyot, Ethiopia, e.t.c

Infact, collecting taxes on foreign assets of citizens is the NORM and not doing so, is an isolation.

Only Eritrea and the USA tax foreign income of its citizens living outside their country but almost ALL countries, with Nigeria just joining, tax the foreign income of their 'resident citizens'.

What you dunces need to investigate and seek clarity about is how the Govt will make allowance for Assets on which tax have already been paid in the foreign location that they are situated or where such income was earned so that the owner now pay a reduced tax at home, here in Nigeria, to mitigate against double taxation.

Well, most of you shouting here dont even have any local asset, talk-less of foreign assets, so how this matter take concern una sef, dey baffle me. grin grin

Meanwhile, Buhari should not try to reap where he had not sowed because Nigerians, unlike their foreign counterpart say in America, dont enjoy any benefit from the Nigerian govt, they have to provide their own water through borehole, electricity through fuel Generators and Inverters, No standard hospitals, poor transportation, bad roads, e.t.c.
Whatever these people have managed to gather (apart from thieves and treasury looters like Saraki, Atiku, Olisah metuh, Oshiomole, including Our Ex-generals like Abacha, IBB, OBJ, Abdusalam, e.t.c) was done by sheer self-sacrifice.

Herdsmen Sponsor Buhari: Ask not what your Citizens can do for you.....Ask what you can do for your Citizens"

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Re: Buhari Signs Voluntary Offshore Assets Regularisation Scheme (VOARS) by Livefreeordieha(m): 3:21am On Oct 11, 2018
BeeBeeOoh:


https://www.premiumtimesng.com/news/top-news/289586-just-in-buhari-signs-new-executive-order-to-collect-taxes-on-foreign-assets-of-nigerians.html
lol...when u are clueless,visionlesss,directionless and thus appears lifelesss you will definitely shamelessly do diz type of nonsense....PIB bill is there since years to sign no...And that will even serve nigerians on a long and short term basis but lazy brain drain looticians think no taxes is easy free money so they can loot...


Very daft move though...Because i will never understand the rationale behind taxing ur citizens abroad when u don't listen,or do nothing for...I'm sure he doesn't even know what he has done...

Even countries where the citizens raise their heads up high in the midst of nations aren't taxed on foreign assets...The irony is they will gladly pay if asked as ridiculous as it may come but they trust,and believe in the system...Abuse of office in most countries in Europe is lengthy jail time no fines except restitution and lifeban from public office.

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