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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc2: 6:18am On Oct 11, 2018
What Hazard needs is that thug mentality. grin




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KLqbSb9LuQ?t=23

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 6:29am On Oct 11, 2018
raumdeuter:
Before hazzard got to Chelsea they had no problems qualifying for the CL and the knockout stages

In hazards first season they didn't makeit from the CL group stages

In another 2 seasons they didn't make it to the CL in one they didn't make it to Europe at all

All these things never happened until they signed the fraud


Cus we had drogba.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Excallibur(m): 6:36am On Oct 11, 2018
https://m.sportskeeda.com/football/top-10-best-dribblers-in-the-football-world-right-now/10 this article clearly stated that hazard and neymar have more dribbles completed than messi but crown messi the best dribbler in europe because of something they called ; dribbling efficiency (most of his dribblings are foward runs that lead to goal scoring chances ) even nemyar with a lot of show boating actually create more goal scoring chances than hazard with his dribbling. a bulk of hazards dribbling is just needless sideway runs (emm what's that word again sef shaku..)
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by popizaino(m): 7:09am On Oct 11, 2018
Greatihex:
if raumdeuter starts using that logic Against hazard, you will support him.



That's the hypocrisy on this forum for you.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by EvilMetahuman: 7:11am On Oct 11, 2018
nihilistjnr:


The guy has pissed off too many people with his attitude

This was Conte complaining last year:
"I think that sometimes Eden is happy if he scores one goal, and then if there is another situation, he prefers to make an assist rather than scoring twice," "I see, for Ronaldo, that if he scores once he wants two, three, four. It's the same for Messi."

This was Mourinho 4 years ago:

He's never afraid to play and take responsibility, but it's not about that,"."It's about him saying - today I have to be decisive.

Then hear Hazard:

"For me, football is like this: I go on the pitch and I try to enjoy it," he said. "I do not look at statistics, I do not look at goals, I just want to go on the pitch. For me, when all the fans come to a game, they have to be happy. It is my job to make sure they are."

And

I think, in football now, if you want to win something like the Ballon d'Or or [to be the] top-scorer, you need to be selfish," . "But I'm not like this, not at all. I'm just who I am."


What annoys is me is that when you look at the underlying stats, you can see how close he is to the other 2, if he just focuses more and is more selfish.

I swear I want to slap him sometimes.

seems like Sarri oni gbolongo cigar, don finally put the word inside his agbari. I don't know how, but Hazard is looking like he's about to bust the net this year finally.

I can't wait to see it.
onigbolongo cigar ke grin


Wetin you no go read here self grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by EvilMetahuman: 7:35am On Oct 11, 2018
BlueAngel444:
mentality and manager is important
without fegurson and Ronaldo personal drive he won't be where he is today.

pep saw Messi's mentality to dribble players and look for an opportunity to score and really this is the difference between Messi and Iniesta, Iniesta will dribble, move into tiny spaces to create opportunities for his team to score.

honestly Hazard DGAF what people think, and he is all for the team and I respect him for that because he is a reminder of what football used to be and why some of us first fell in love with the team game.
Ths is exactly what I told someone last week.


Hazard mentality and not having managers to talk serious sense into his head really put a big dent on his stat..

Imagine having someone like pep, or sarri or even wenger as coach 3-4years ago, the boy would have been a goal machine now by now.

E.g, look at Sterling..
Imagine Sterling under mourinho.. he will be probably be playing right back now grin


I remember fabregas telling hazard to be more selfish last year and score a lot of goal to be on par with the likes of messi, the mumu said no. Even his manager that suppose to encourage him said he doesn't want selfish player and he is happy with current hazard




Like nihilistjnr said, if you have watched Messi and hazard play, you will see a very striking resemblance in their games.. only difference is the former knows how important it is to score a lot of goals and also lucky enough to have strong teamates to help him achieve that while the other one prefer to be supporting cast for the likes of morata, Costa and giroud.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Leyqute(m): 8:49am On Oct 11, 2018
soldier Shekpite go, soldier shekpite come. Dem full boku for this place.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 9:14am On Oct 11, 2018
If anything, we should be saying Isco has the level of talent as Hazard. After all, they are also very similar players. And I could also make the same excuse of mentality and lack of supporting cast.

Isco is the true definition of shakushaku. The guy fit dribble the same player 4 times on a spot, even there is an opportunity to pass or shoot. If only he could be serious and cut out the unnecessary feints and nutmegs, there is no reason why he can't match Hazard.

Isco has never been and will never be the main man at Madrid unlike Hazard who is the superstar at Chelsea. He has never had a supporting cast to begin with. Who is to say Isco won't surpass Hazard's achievements if he has a team of his own? His stellar performances for Spain has shown if you hand this man the keys, he's capable of doing magic.

Isco at Malaga was the main man. I still remember his performances in the 2012/13 CL season. He and Goetze were the best young players that year . The same season Hazard joined Chelsea and couldn't save them from dropping to the Europa league, Isco was only a few seconds from leading Malaga to their first ever CL semifinal in their first ever season. Only for them to concede 2 goals in injury time against Dortmund. That Malaga team was in debts and had sold some of their best players. What if Isco had a better supporting cast?

Isco is on the same talent level as Hazard. Do you agree, nihilstjnr?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 9:15am On Oct 11, 2018
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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by neezar: 9:53am On Oct 11, 2018
Unlimited22:
Next to life, God's most precious gift is sight. Join those who are in the business of preserving such a wonderful gift. We are in the business of preserving sight and preventing avoidable blindness.
Schedule a visit to an Optometrist today.
Happy world sight day, e-fam!!!!


Signed,
Your Resident Optometrist.
You are really needed in this thread Bro

Most of ur fellow fans need it after the rubbish I read last night

Meanwhile u know Olivia wey dey do Mls for my school?? wink
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 9:59am On Oct 11, 2018
neezar:

You are really needed in this thread Bro

Most of ur fellow fans need it after the rubbish I read last night

Meanwhile u know Olivia wey dey do Mls for my school?? wink
How I Wan take Sabi am?
I like woman, but I never dey fly for night.... cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 10:34am On Oct 11, 2018
pkasso:


Isco has never been and will never be the main man at Madrid unlike Hazard who is the superstar at Chelsea. He has never had a supporting cast to begin with.


so Isco did not follow the Madrid players to win 3 back to back UCLs?

Maybe during that period, the guy added a 'C' to his name, climbed into a server rack, and pretended to be a router for 3 seasons

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 10:53am On Oct 11, 2018
nihilistjnr:


so Isco did not follow the Madrid players to win 3 back to back UCLs?

Maybe during that period, the guy added a 'C' to his name, climbed into a server rack, and pretended to be a router for 3 seasons
grin cheesy grin
He became Cisco abi grin grin grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 11:00am On Oct 11, 2018
Unlimited22:

grin cheesy grin
He became Cisco abi grin grin grin

my bruddah...

I just weak for uncle pkasso because my point is self evident.

A great supporting cast can elevate you to great things. Just look at how Ororo, Bale and Karius even managed to drag Modric to WPOTY award.

Ororo left, Bale injured, and Madrid can't even score a single goal in 4 games with Modric on the pitch...losing to football juggernauts like CSKA Moscow, Alaves, and Sevilla. cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc(m): 11:07am On Oct 11, 2018
Zaha is on the same talent level as Hazard.

If only he had Hazard’s supporting cast AND mentality he would be as good if not better than Hazard.

Manga Mohammed, Philip Osondu, and Femi Opabunmi as well.

All on Hazard’s talent level but sadly derailed by lack of a supporting cast and/or mentality.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Unlimited22: 11:11am On Oct 11, 2018
afrodoc:

Zaha is on the same talent level as Hazard.

If only he had Hazard’s supporting cast AND mentality he would be as good if not better than Hazard.

Manga Mohammed, Philip Osondu, and Femi Opabunmi as well.

All on Hazard’s talent level but sadly derailed by lack of a supporting cast and/or mentality.
Matthew Etherington, Connor Whittingham, Adama Traore, Garba Lawal, Marc Pugh and Oussama Assaidi too.
Make we dey craze dey go.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc(m): 11:16am On Oct 11, 2018
Unlimited22:

Matthew Etherington, Connor Whittingham, Adama Traore, Garba Lawal, Marc Pugh and Oussama Assaidi too.
Make we dey craze dey go.

Even Ben Jaga who was one of the big boys on campus those days and Vincent a.k.a Vincoil who dominated the Pepsi sponsored inter block football competitions back in the day.

Very similar style and talent level to Hazard but sadly lacking in the appropriate mentality.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:25am On Oct 11, 2018
pkasso:
If anything, we should be saying Isco has the level of talent as Hazard. After all, they are also very similar players. And I could also make the same excuse of mentality and lack of supporting cast.

Isco is the true definition of shakushaku. The guy fit dribble the same player 4 times on a spot, even there is an opportunity to pass or shoot. If only he could be serious and cut out the unnecessary feints and nutmegs, there is no reason why he can't match Hazard.

Isco has never been and will never be the main man at Madrid unlike Hazard who is the superstar at Chelsea. He has never had a supporting cast to begin with. Who is to say Isco won't surpass Hazard's achievements if he has a team of his own? His stellar performances for Spain has shown if you hand this man the keys, he's capable of doing magic.

Isco at Malaga was the main man. I still remember his performances in the 2012/13 CL season. He and Goetze were the best young players that year . The same season Hazard joined Chelsea and couldn't save them from dropping to the Europa league, Isco was only a few seconds from leading Malaga to their first ever CL semifinal in their first ever season. Only for them to concede 2 goals in injury time against Dortmund. That Malaga team was in debts and had sold some of their best players. What if Isco had a better supporting cast?

Isco is on the same talent level as Hazard. Do you agree, nihilstjnr?

Hazard and his team mate qualified Lille of all club to ucl before moving to Chelsea.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 11:26am On Oct 11, 2018
afrodoc:

Zaha is on the same talent level as Hazard.

If only he had Hazard’s supporting cast AND mentality he would be as good if not better than Hazard.

Manga Mohammed, Philip Osondu, and Femi Opabunmi as well.

All on Hazard’s talent level but sadly derailed by lack of a supporting cast and/or mentality.


.

In the latest 'The best awards', Messi was number 5, Hazard was number 7...So in the eyes of FIFA, Messi and Hazard are actually not far off each other.

Messi was playing with Coutinho, Suarez, Rakitic, Busquets etc.
Hazard was playing with Victor Moses, Morata and Bakayoko who to be honest are actually crystal palace level.

of course, I believe Zaha can elevate a few more levels when he joins a bigger team

Let him start by winning a spot in PFA first.


btw, Pogba without dabbing and overskill = Etebo cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by hensben(m): 11:30am On Oct 11, 2018
afrodoc:

Zaha is on the same talent level as Hazard.

If only he had Hazard’s supporting cast AND mentality he would be as good if not better than Hazard.

Manga Mohammed, Philip Osondu, and Femi Opabunmi as well.

All on Hazard’s talent level but sadly derailed by lack of a supporting cast and/or mentality.
Zaha was in Man U at a point if he was that good he would’ve been heard then like Hazard. Talk another thing Jare.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc(m): 11:36am On Oct 11, 2018
nihilistjnr:



.

In the latest 'The best awards', Messi was number 5, Hazard was number 7...So in the eyes of FIFA, Messi and Hazard are actually not far off each other.

Messi was playing with Coutinho, Suarez, Rakitic, Busquets etc.
Hazard was playing with Victor Moses, Morata and Bakayoko who to be honest are actually crystal palace level.

of course, I believe Zaha can elevate a few more levels when he joins a bigger team

Let him start by winning a spot in PFA first.


btw, Pogba without dabbing and overskill = Etebo cheesy


Lol you are preaching to the choir. Etebo and Ndidi are my best Naija midfielders and my criticism of Pogba is well documented.

Ndidi Anumnu and Siyabonga Nomvete were on Hazard’s level but didn’t have the right mentality.

Even Luke Chadwick, Gael Kakuta and Tarila Okorowanta.
Sam Pam with the right mentality would have been as good as Hazard.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 11:43am On Oct 11, 2018
afrodoc:


Lol you are preaching to the choir. Etebo and Ndidi are my best Naija midfielders and my criticism of Pogba is well documented.

Ndidi Anumnu and Siyabonga Nomvete were on Hazard’s level but didn’t have the right mentality.

Even Luke Chadwick, Gael Kakuta and Tarila Okorowanta.
Sam Pam with the right mentality would have been as good as Hazard.

well too bad for them

Maybe they should look for Sarri to come and coach them during the week when they play on the coal far pitches in the jungles of Benin city. Maybe he would able to do for them what he seems to be doing for Hazard.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc(m): 11:44am On Oct 11, 2018
nihilistjnr:


well too bad for them

Maybe they should look for Sarri to come and coach them during the week when they play on the coal far pitches in the jungles of Benin city. Maybe he would able to do for them what he seems to be doing for Hazard.


Exactly.
Thanks for finally agreeing with me.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by sod09(m): 11:46am On Oct 11, 2018
nihilistjnr:


so Isco did not follow the Madrid players to win 3 back to back UCLs?

Maybe during that period, the guy added a 'C' to his name, climbed into a server rack, and pretended to be a router for 3 seasons
but isco full name is francisco undecided
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 11:49am On Oct 11, 2018
afrodoc:



Exactly.
Thanks for finally agreeing with me.

Nah thank you for agreeing with me.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 11:51am On Oct 11, 2018
nihilistjnr:


so Isco did not follow the Madrid players to win 3 back to back UCLs?

Maybe during that period, the guy added a 'C' to his name, climbed into a server rack, and pretended to be a router for 3 seasons

Pkasso wasn't himself when he posted that. cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by afrodoc(m): 11:55am On Oct 11, 2018
nihilistjnr:


Nah thank you for agreeing with me.

Lol we both now agree that under Sarri and in the right circumstances Tarila, Stanley Okoro and Ndidi would be like Hazard.
I said it first and you agreed with it in your last post.

Thanks again. cheesy

John Ene Okon and Peter Nieketien had as much talent as Hazard but didn’t have the right support around them.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 12:07pm On Oct 11, 2018
nihilistjnr:


so Isco did not follow the Madrid players to win 3 back to back UCLs?

Maybe during that period, the guy added a 'C' to his name, climbed into a server rack, and pretended to be a router for 3 seasons
Bro, calm down. Isco WAS PART of the supporting cast, not the main man. Ororo was the main man. It was Ororo's team. Marcelo, Ramos, Kroos, Modric, Casemiro and even Benzema all made up CR7's supporting cast. It's like a wolf pack, there is the alpha and there are betas.

Ororo na Batman and Isco was just one of his many Robins grin. I don't know if you are getting this.

Or are you saying Isco has the same status Hazard has at Chelsea?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 12:14pm On Oct 11, 2018
airmark:


Pkasso wasn't himself when he posted that. cheesy
You no dey OK. I'm still sticking to what I said. Abeg, is Isco the main man at Real as Hazard is at Chelsea?
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by iamJ(m): 12:42pm On Oct 11, 2018
No aMala today *sad
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 12:57pm On Oct 11, 2018
pkasso:
Bro, calm down. Isco WAS PART of the supporting cast, not the main man. Ororo was the main man. It was Ororo's team. Marcelo, Ramos, Kroos, Modric, Casemiro and even Benzema all made up CR7's supporting cast. It's like a wolf pack, there is the alpha and there are betas.

Ororo na Batman and Isco was just one of his many Robins grin. I don't know if you are getting this.

Or are you saying Isco has the same status Hazard has at Chelsea?







when I'm talking about supporting cast, I'm talking about constituent members of the team surrounding the player in question.

I'm not talking about main man or Batman or Darkseid.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 12:59pm On Oct 11, 2018
afrodoc:


Lol we both now agree that under Sarri and in the right circumstances Tarila, Stanley Okoro and Ndidi would be like Hazard.
I said it first and you agreed with it in your last post.

Thanks again. cheesy

John Ene Okon and Peter Nieketien had as much talent as Hazard but didn’t have the right support around them.

All these names and long talk just to contest that number 5 and number 7 are not close enough in talent? cheesy

You have sha agreed with me. That's all I needed from you egbon. cool

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