Hakeem12:
The usual definition of a miracle is an event not explicable by natural or scientific laws. By that definition, no miracle has ever been proven to have happened, so we can say that miracles are not real.

The miracles attributed to Jesus in the New Testament were written down more than forty years after Jesus is said to have lived and were, at best, based on hearsay or, at worst were literary creations designed to foster belief in the newly emerging faith. Acts of the Apostles is now believed to have been written early in the second century, when the events it portrayed were already a whole lifetime in the past. Whereas Actscould portray Peter and Paul as having long ago performed miracles, this was a luxury Paul could not indulge in when writing his epistles because those to whom he wrote his epistles actually knew him and could challenge any claim to having performed a great miracle.

So it was throughout the early centuries of Christianity. Miracles were always reported as taking place in a more distant place or time, such that readers of the accounts were unlikely to be able to challenge the truth of the miracles.

When Catholicism began to become more involved with the veneration of the Virgin Mary, there was a lot of interest in whether she would appear and provide messages of support. She soon began to appear, but her appearances were generally to poor children in remote communities. Children who reported seeing a strange woman in the neighbourhood were encouraged to elaborate on their stories until they became clearer visions of the virgin Mary, but disinterested adults were never able to confirm the sightings.

The important Mexican Guadalupe tradition is of a poor Indian named Juan Diego who saw a vision of the Virgin Mary on 9th December 1531, barely ten years after the Spanish Conquest, asking him to have a chapel built in Tepeyac in her honour. 9th December is the day after the feast of the Immaculate Conception. This tradition is unknown until we find it written down a hundred years later by Father Miguel Sanchez.

Random events, such as remission of disease or survival of natural disasters are sometimes spoken of as miracles, but these can be excluded because atheists and people of every possible faith are equally likely to survive.

Perhaps we could redefine a miracle as the record of an amazing event that supposedly took place long ago or in some distant place, such that it is no longer possible to refute the evidence.

Modarun:


Bit your Quran stated it clearly that Jesus raosed the dead and gave life? did it not?

Hakeem12:
The usual definition of a miracle is an event not explicable by natural or scientific laws. By that definition, no miracle has ever been proven to have happened, so we can say that miracles are not real.

The miracles attributed to Jesus in the New Testament were written down more than forty years after Jesus is said to have lived and were, at best, based on hearsay or, at worst were literary creations designed to foster belief in the newly emerging faith. Acts of the Apostles is now believed to have been written early in the second century, when the events it portrayed were already a whole lifetime in the past. Whereas Actscould portray Peter and Paul as having long ago performed miracles, this was a luxury Paul could not indulge in when writing his epistles because those to whom he wrote his epistles actually knew him and could challenge any claim to having performed a great miracle.

So it was throughout the early centuries of Christianity. Miracles were always reported as taking place in a more distant place or time, such that readers of the accounts were unlikely to be able to challenge the truth of the miracles.

When Catholicism began to become more involved with the veneration of the Virgin Mary, there was a lot of interest in whether she would appear and provide messages of support. She soon began to appear, but her appearances were generally to poor children in remote communities. Children who reported seeing a strange woman in the neighbourhood were encouraged to elaborate on their stories until they became clearer visions of the virgin Mary, but disinterested adults were never able to confirm the sightings.

The important Mexican Guadalupe tradition is of a poor Indian named Juan Diego who saw a vision of the Virgin Mary on 9th December 1531, barely ten years after the Spanish Conquest, asking him to have a chapel built in Tepeyac in her honour. 9th December is the day after the feast of the Immaculate Conception. This tradition is unknown until we find it written down a hundred years later by Father Miguel Sanchez.

Random events, such as remission of disease or survival of natural disasters are sometimes spoken of as miracles, but these can be excluded because atheists and people of every possible faith are equally likely to survive.

Perhaps we could redefine a miracle as the record of an amazing event that supposedly took place long ago or in some distant place, such that it is no longer possible to refute the evidence.

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Here comes the judge of the WORLD.
God bless you for your judgement, the man who commits no sin.

We @ love you , but JESUS LOVES YOU more!

dopemama:
Happy Sunday to you all! So I ll like to ask, which chapter of psalm is your favourite or works for you? And what situation prompts you to use them? Pls share so others can learn too, Happy Sunday once again.

Jaymarius:
PSALM 20
20:1 In times of trouble, may the lord answer your cry. May the name of the God of Jacob keep you safe from all harm.
20:2 May he send you help from his sanctuary and strengthen you from Jerusalem.
20:3 May he remember all your gifts and look favorably on your burnt offerings.Interlude
20:4 May he grant your heart’s desires and make all your plans succeed.
20:5 May we shout for joy when we hear of your victory and raise a victory banner in the name of our God. May the lord answer all your prayers.
20:6 Now I know that the lord rescues his anointed king. He will answer him from his holy heaven and rescue him by his great power.
20:7 Some nations boast of their chariots and horses, but we boast in the name of the lord our God.
20:8 Those nations will fall down and collapse, but we will rise up and stand firm.
20:9 Give victory to our king, O lord! Answer our cry for help.

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Some people can't simply stop talking out of point and over the bar sha!!

Dopemama, great thread by you jor!

fashionbabe:
Jehova witness member

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Psalm 27:1

The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear?
The LORD is the stronghold of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?


Uses: The powers of darkness are not to be feared, for the Lord, our light, destroys them; and the damnation of hell is not to be dreaded by us, for the Lord is our salvation.
Call upon The Lord when you are down and he will never disappoint you.
[b][/b] say so!

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Psalm 27:1

The LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear?
The LORD is the stronghold of my life; of whom shall I be afraid?


Uses: The powers of darkness are not to be feared, for the Lord, our light, destroys them; and the damnation of hell is not to be dreaded by us, for the Lord is our salvation.
Call upon The Lord when you are down and he will never disappoint you.
[b][/b] say so!

Sleekfingers:


If u don't know...psalm na incantation...what's the meaning of incantation?.....

barristerzinny:
so you are a Christian, I thought you are a Muslim?

brian91:


Seriously, beginning to like you. Earlier perception fading. Those politicians u earlier crave can definitely taint ur cool personality Keep it up. #brotherlyLove.