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Re: . by xfactor23: 8:30pm On Oct 14, 2018
pazienza:


When now I'm looking at it.
Maybe it wouldn't be bad to have plan B.

We should have plan A, B and even C. Its unfortunate our leaders are not strategic enough to think outside the box. All they care is their political interest. However, are we sure Atiku, if he eventually win is going to restructure this country? And if he is doing it, how is the restructure going to take place? Is it going to be maintaining the current status quo? i.e. the current geo-political zones to make up the federation...
Re: . by Cjrane2: 8:31pm On Oct 14, 2018
globemoney:

Do people really believe most of the things they say on social media. Umahi is the chairman of SE governors forum and his decision cannot be swayed by online threats.
This was how they made so much noise online about ipob, against Obiano etc.
The same fools are running around saying igbos don’t have leaders, etc. absolute madness

If Umahi goes against Igbo interest, he will pay for it. Whether he is SE governor forum secretary or not. I cannot repeat the number of people who felt they could go against Igbo interest because of their office. Don't mix unrelated issues with IPOB's struggle.

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Re: . by globemoney: 8:33pm On Oct 14, 2018
Cjrane2:


If Umahi goes against Igbo interest, he will pay for it.
What is Igbo interest?
Re: . by Enugupikin: 8:35pm On Oct 14, 2018
Funnicator:


You 're very flawed oga.

LAGOS that lagosians are complaining has turned very dirty with numerous pot holes on state roads and return of okada touts?

LAGOS that has degenerated from the high pedestal fashola left it?
Lagosians after the introduction of sanwo olu turned against ambode for ruining Lagos.

Or that of Enugu accused of only focusing on nsukka axis. I was in enugu recently and everything I saw in the city were all chime left, nothing new. Ugwuanyi is just maintaining the already built ones.
i like your argument ...no insults and u argue in a mature way

i am from Enugu sha, but in all honesty with the meagre allocation Ebonyi receives and the project already done, i can categorically say that Dave worked the best in the whole Nigeria...sentiment apart..though i dont think he pays workers very well which he needs to correct
Ganduje of kano? More interested in stopping kwankwasiyya movement than improving the lives of kanoans and collecting 50million dollar bribe on canera?

The Edo stooge ruling on behalf of oshiomole?

Now I know you're just blinded by hatred for umahi for you to call these crooks.

It is only obiano I can rate higher than umahi in the East currently.
Re: . by Cjrane2: 8:37pm On Oct 14, 2018
globemoney:

What is Igbo interest?

Again if you are Igbo, you will count from Ukpabi Asika till date how many that fell from their exhaulted position for going against the wishes of their people.

I support Umahi today because he is doing well in Ebonyi, but he will not get such niceties if he becomes the spokesman for Yoruba press. Just like you are doing here pretending to be Igbo.

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Re: . by Enugupikin: 8:37pm On Oct 14, 2018
Funnicator:


You 're very flawed oga.

LAGOS that lagosians are complaining has turned very dirty with numerous pot holes on state roads and return of okada touts?

LAGOS that has degenerated from the high pedestal fashola left it?
Lagosians after the introduction of sanwo olu turned against ambode for ruining Lagos.

Or that of Enugu accused of only focusing on nsukka axis. I was in enugu recently and everything I saw in the city were all chime left, nothing new. Ugwuanyi is just maintaining the already built ones.

Ganduje of kano? More interested in stopping kwankwasiyya movement than improving the lives of kanoans and collecting 50million dollar bribe on canera?

The Edo stooge ruling on behalf of oshiomole?

Now I know you're just blinded by hatred for umahi for you to call these crooks.

It is only obiano I can rate higher than umahi in the East currently.
U

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Re: . by onuebonyi: 8:39pm On Oct 14, 2018
Shut up bastard, you are not an Igbo man. I wonder why you should be carrying Igbo matter for head like akara. cheesy


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Cjrane2:

Again if you are Igbo, you will count from Ukpabi Asika till date how many that fell from their exhaulted position for going against the wishes of their people. I support Umahi today because he is doing well in Ebonyi, but he will not get such niceties if he becomes the spokesman for Yoruba press. Just like you are doing here pretending to be Igbo.
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Re: . by ckenneths(m): 8:40pm On Oct 14, 2018
nnamdijonathan:


and you are very sure about what you've just said? post the pics let's see.

These pictures were first posted on 21st April 2018, here on this thread , I think its on page 4 now.

Watch the 2 signboards are still there, an old school now demolished and 4 new school blocks being built to one storey status. He upgraded the school to Special science school.

I think the school project is completed and in use now.

Brothers, show me any other governor who has ever done this?

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Re: . by globemoney: 8:41pm On Oct 14, 2018
Cjrane2:


Again if you are Igbo, you will count from Ukpabi Asika till date how many that fell from their exhaulted position for going against the wishes of their people.

I support Umahi today because he is doing well in Ebonyi, but he will not get such niceties if he becomes the spokesman for Yoruba press. Just like you are doing here pretending to be Igbo.
Saying I’m pretending to be Igbo is just amusing to me, I don’t respond to that nonsense. It means you have nothing tangible to say. I want to stick to facts and won’t mention how you are one of Peter Obi online boys here.
I want to ask you again, what is Igbo interest
Re: . by onuebonyi: 8:43pm On Oct 14, 2018
Cjrane2 was born a bastard though his mother is from Delta state, this is why he is always quick to accuse anyone of being non igbo even when he is not an Igbo


globemoney:

Saying I’m pretending to be Igbo is just amusing to me, I don’t respond to that nonsense. It means you have nothing tangible to say. I want to stick to facts and won’t mention how you are one of Peter Obi online boys here.
I want to ask you again, what is Igbo interest
Re: . by globemoney: 8:44pm On Oct 14, 2018
Oh because I said Omambala1 is not Igbo everyone is trying to say everyone is not Igbo? grin grin

Please I have my facts oh on omambala1! Chino is my brother and we have lots of disagreements but anyi ka by Nwanne. We respect each other!

Imagine someone outside Anambra coming to tell us how to run our state? Anambra is indeed home for all. Kam biakwa

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Re: . by Cjrane2: 8:45pm On Oct 14, 2018
Enugupikin:

i like your argument ...no insults and u argue in a mature way

i am from Enugu sha, but in all honesty with the meagre allocation Ebonyi receives and the project already done, i can categorically say that Dave worked the best in the whole Nigeria...sentiment apart..though i dont think he pays workers very well which he needs to correct

Dave Umahi is a great Governor. I would have preferred Soludo if he were in PDP. Yet, i know Peter Obi is eminiently qualified for the position.

In Nigeria, there are a lot of forces out to get ndigbo to fight and wash their dirty linen in public just to discredit Ndigbo. I remember when Chuba Okidigbo was Senate President, some Nigerians ran to Evan Ewerem to instigate him against Okadigbo. I knew exactly that once that happened, he too would not last because it will be another group instigating Igbos to topple him too.

The same thing happened when Nnamdi Kanu spoke about boycott of Anambra elections against a performing popular governor. I was against the boycott, but i was even more afraid of the division it could create unless our people learned to talk in closed door meetings than pages of newspapers.


Other Nigerians especially from the SW always ensnare the Igbo with one divisive topic or another. They have learnt from our history that they cannot defeat us when we are united. But they will easily tear us to shreds once they get us to sing discordant tunes. That is the danger in what Umahi is doing.

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Re: . by onuebonyi: 8:49pm On Oct 14, 2018
It is only an efulefu, a bastard that care to know other people's history more than his own history. Does it mean there is nothing to tell us about your Delta state?

Cjrane2, you are not Igbo. Bastard..lol


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Cjrane2:


Dave Umahi is a great Governor. I would have preferred Soludo if he were in PDP. Yet, i know Peter Obi is eminiently qualified for the position.

In Nigeria, there are a lot of forces out to get ndigbo to fight and wash their dirty linen in public just to discredit Ndigbo. I remember when Chuba Okidigbo was Senate President, some Nigerians ran to Evan Ewerem to instigate him against Okadigbo. I knew exactly that once that happened, he too would not last because it will be another group instigating Igbos to topple him too.

The same thing happened when Nnamdi Kanu spoke about boycott of Anambra elections. I was against the boycott, but i was even more afraid of the division it could create unless our people learned to talk in closed door meetings than pages of newspapers.


Other Nigerians especially from the SW always ensnare the Igbo with one divisive topic or another. They have learnt from our history that they cannot defeat us when we are united. But they will easily tear us to shreds once they get us to sing discordant tunes. That is the danger in what Umahi is doing.
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Re: . by xfactor23: 8:49pm On Oct 14, 2018
I saw this post on facebook and decide to post it here. From all indiciation, are we really voting for Atiku because he will restructure Nigeria, or because he is picking an Igbo VP, or just innate hate for Buhari?


Atiku can never restructure Nigeria....BUT I will still support his candidacy because Buhari needs to go and must go!

Here is a more "realistic fact" �

Apart from the fact that he derives his political and financial sustenance from the present status quo and as such will never wanna change it, below are some other reasons why Atiku can never fulfil his promise to bring in True Federalism.

Let us let go of emotions and embrace facts.

We all agree that our President has desecrated the land economically, politically and socially and as such, he has to pack up, go back home and spend time with his grandchildren until he receives the ultimate call of life. NO DOUBT.

Buhari rode on the back of CHANGE MANTRA to Abuja and disappointed some of you. Now Atiku wanna ride on the RESTRUCTURE-TRUE-FEDERALISM mantra to Aso Rock and some Nigerians have started celebrating without asking some pertinent and difficult questions on how he plans to make Nigeria a TRUE FEDERAL STATE.beyound the words of mouth.

The Nigerian National Assembly (NASS) which is made up of the upper house (Senate) and a lower house (HOReps) will have to vote YES (2/3 majority) for RESTRUCTURING-FEDERALISM to take place.

Now, Nigeria has 36 States currently and two-thirds of that are 24. .And you need this two-thirds to be able to make any real change in the constitution right? We will also need two-thirds of the 36 states houses of assembly to append their consent before Nigeria could be made a TRUE FEDERAL state.

Now, each state of the federation including Abuja has three Senators right and different numbers of House of Representative members with some states having more than the others. We actually have more HORep members in Northern Nigeria.

The Southern region has 17 States (South-west - 6, South-south - 6 and South-east - 5)

The Northern region has 19 States (North-west - 7, North-central - 6 and North-east - 6).

For any amendments to the Constitution in respect of restructuring to be made, the East (the most vocal region for a change in the status quo as at today) needs all the states in the South West (6 states) to agree to buy into restructuring. Still, it does not end with all the Southern States.

The East will still need all the states in the South-South too (This can be done if genuine agitators manifest from their—Not petrol-dollar agitators oohh!!)

The EAST will also need all the states (6 states) in the North Central (This is a mammoth task)

Still, it does not end there. They will still need another state from either the North West or North East (Without oil in these regions, this is an impossibility).

So, in essence, you can even vote a PRO-FEDERALIST President into power but he or she will still be useless IN TERMS OF ACTUALLY RESTRUCTURING Nigeria.

The skewed State creation in this country, the skewed local government creation in this country made it possible that the feudal North whose elite class benefits tremendously from the present UNITARY FEEDING BOTTLE ARRANGEMENT will have to consent to RESTRUCTURE through its proxies in the Senate, HOReps and States House of Assemblies for any kind of change to happen.

My point is that it will be hard to get anything called restructuring based on this our present structures.

The powers-that-be purposely caged us all.

What we need is a sovereign national conference.

The national assembly might not give us the solution to all these problems

The few progressives among them (If any) will be handicapped.

Differences in Ideologies are not even the main xoxo. We all know why the push for restructuring is encountering great opposition.

It is not ideological, it is based on an unfounded fear by some people who think they will not be able to generate enough money from within to run their territories and enclaves. Yes, to run the fraudulent and unsustainable states they created.

Plus, some people fear that they will lose their grip on the political powers available in their localities and the general political clout they have on the entire country.

The feudal caliphate who controls the Northern States derives their power and relevance from the semi-feudalism practised in their region, therefore, they will never willingly let go of this source of self-sustenance. The present unitary system fits in well with their sociological and traditional lifestyle up North.

You need to tell us what you mean when you say that Atiku will restructure Nigeria. How will he do it? Through an executive order? Are you dreaming?

I can understand it if your goal is only for Buhari to go

But don't insult sane people's intelligence by insisting that you want Buhari out because Atiku will ensure that Nigeria is RESTRUCTURED.

Don't try to use a noble and intellectual idea like FEDERALISM to argue your case for Atiku. Just tell the world that you want Buhari out and end it there.
Re: . by Nobody: 8:49pm On Oct 14, 2018
globemoney:

[s]Keep fooling yourself, this is about Peter Obi and not Anambra. ALL pdp leaders in Anambra rejected Peter Obi except his stooge Obaze.
Both of them will still fail[/s]


Goodnight
Re: . by NonsoWow: 8:50pm On Oct 14, 2018
I don't think Atiku has settled for peter obi yet. He is still leaving his options open pending the conclusion of negotiations with southeast leaders. That is why he has not made any statement on his VP choice especially on his twitter account where he is active. The opposition against peter obi is very strong and he will likely cave in to their request.
Re: . by globemoney: 8:51pm On Oct 14, 2018
Osagyefo98:



Goodnight
This amalekite will be sleeping this night in pains. Ndo cheesy
Re: . by xfactor23: 8:52pm On Oct 14, 2018
Cjrane2:


Dave Umahi is a great Governor. I would have preferred Soludo if he were in PDP. Yet, i know Peter Obi is eminiently qualified for the position.

In Nigeria, there are a lot of forces out to get ndigbo to fight and wash their dirty linen in public just to discredit Ndigbo. I remember when Chuba Okidigbo was Senate President, some Nigerians ran to Evan Ewerem to instigate him against Okadigbo. I knew exactly that once that happened, he too would not last because it will be another group instigating Igbos to topple him too.

The same thing happened when Nnamdi Kanu spoke about boycott of Anambra elections against a performing popular governor. I was against the boycott, but i was even more afraid of the division it could create unless our people learned to talk in closed door meetings than pages of newspapers.


Other Nigerians especially from the SW always ensnare the Igbo with one divisive topic or another. They have learnt from our history that they cannot defeat us when we are united. But they will easily tear us to shreds once they get us to sing discordant tunes. That is the danger in what Umahi is doing.
Please, keep it coming. You are a rare gem and asset to us. Ignore any low life that misunderstands you and try to insult your person. Udo diri gi.

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Re: . by onuebonyi: 8:54pm On Oct 14, 2018
Nonso Nwankwo you have been saying the same thing on Facebook. Why can't you see that there is a thin line between Obi and Obiano? Very soon they will reconcile while you are left in the cold. I have warned you several time on apga interactive.


NonsoWow:
I don't think Atiku has settled for peter obi yet. He is still leaving his options open pending the conclusion of negotiations with southeast leaders. That is why he has not made any statement on his VP choice especially on his twitter account where he is active. The opposition against peter obi is very strong and he will likely cave in to their request.
Re: . by ckenneths(m): 8:54pm On Oct 14, 2018
More of Main market in Onitsha....... ife ifuro n' ime afia, jezie ka ichoo ya na eke mmuo cheesy

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Re: . by Enugupikin: 8:55pm On Oct 14, 2018
Cjrane2:


Dave Umahi is a great Governor. I would have preferred Soludo if he were in PDP. Yet, i know Peter Obi is eminiently qualified for the position.

In Nigeria, there are a lot of forces out to get ndigbo to fight and wash their dirty linen in public just to discredit Ndigbo. I remember when Chuba Okidigbo was Senate President, some Nigerians ran to Evan Ewerem to instigate him against Okadigbo. I knew exactly that once that happened, he too would not last because it will be another group instigating Igbos to topple him too.

The same thing happened when Nnamdi Kanu spoke about boycott of Anambra elections against a performing popular governor. I was against the boycott, but i was even more afraid of the division it could create unless our people learned to talk in closed door meetings than pages of newspapers.


Other Nigerians especially from the SW always ensnare the Igbo with one divisive topic or another. They have learnt from our history that they cannot defeat us when we are united. But they will easily tear us to shreds once they get us to sing discordant tunes. That is the danger in what Umahi is doing.
let me tell u sth...in as much as everyone criticised umahi's action there is always the need to do individual analysis on your own...i dont think all those SE leaders mean bad for us. Igbo needs to have plan B incase plan A fails but u guys are carried away by emotion..how sure are we that Atiku is gonna win(this is 100%) subject to argument ...there are many things that happen underground these leaders know that we dont..be less emotional and we more analytical..Nigeria is a complex place that needs tactical politicking

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Re: . by Nobody: 8:57pm On Oct 14, 2018
onuebonyi:
It is only an efulefu, a bastard that care to know other people's history more than his own history. Does it mean there is nothing to tell us about your Delta state?

Cjrane2, you are not Igbo. Bastard..lol


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Why not correct him or tackle if possible refute his submission if he is wrong.

I said this coz the last time I checked cjrane2 has supported igbos to the last if he is not igbo. He has consistently showed unwavering support and love for ndigbo. So if not for anything respect him for always showing solidarity to us and adding his voice in truthful manner even if he is not igbo.

#Atikulated obi 2019#

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Re: . by Nobody: 8:57pm On Oct 14, 2018
Enugupikin:

[s]let me tell u sth...in as much as everyone criticised umahi's action there is always the need to do individual analysis on your own...i dont think all those SE leaders mean bad for us. Igbo needs to have plan B incase plan A fails but u guys are carried away by emotion..how sure are we that Atiku is gonna win(this is 100%) subject to argument ...there are many things that happen underground these leaders know that we dont..be less emotional and we more analytical..Nigeria is a complex place that needs tactica[/s]l politicking
Re: . by onuebonyi: 8:58pm On Oct 14, 2018
Paul, oya tell us what you know that we don't know. We just spoke with Chima.


Enugupikin:

let me tell u sth...in as much as everyone criticised umahi's action there is always the need to do individual analysis on your own...i dont think all those SE leaders mean bad for us. Igbo needs to have plan B incase plan A fails but u guys are carried away by emotion..how sure are we that Atiku is gonna win(this is 100%) subject to argument ...there are many things that happen underground these leaders know that we dont..be less emotional amd we more analytical
Re: . by Cjrane2: 8:58pm On Oct 14, 2018
globemoney:

Saying I’m pretending to be Igbo is just amusing to me, I don’t respond to that nonsense. It means you have nothing tangible to say. I want to stick to facts and won’t mention how you are one of Peter Obi online boys here.
I want to ask you again, what is Igbo interest


It amuses me when some folks say i'm Peter Obi's boy. lol...

Just check out my posts in Cjrane, my first moniker and see that i applauded Peter Obi for his good works with the schools and hospitals and lashed at him when he failed with quality works.

Dude, i lived in Onitsha, so i know what works and what doesn't. I have also lived in Lagos, Maiduguri and Azare. So i know the mentality of Nigerians in relation with the Igboman's way of thinking.


Nigerians have realized that the Igbo thinks in the overall interest of the society. That is why Igbo build schools and roads in their villages even, when they don't live there. Other Nigerians don't care about their society, they only think of themselves. So they always find a way to make an Igboman think something isn't really the best option for his society. Once they get to create doubt in his mind, they strike knowing the typical Igboman will not fight for anything he isn't convinced is the best for his society.

That is why they want to present Obi as something bad for Igbo society.

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Re: . by ckenneths(m): 8:58pm On Oct 14, 2018
The famous Iweka road, Onitsha......... efe enyero cheesy

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Re: . by xfactor23: 8:58pm On Oct 14, 2018
Osagyefo98:


Why not correct him or tackle if possible refute his submission if he is wrong.

I said this coz the last time I checked cjrane2 has supported igbos to the last if he is not igbo. He has consistently showed unwavering support and love for ndigbo. So if not for anything respect him for always showing solidarity to us and adding his voice in truthful manner even if he is not igbo.

#Atikulated obi 2019#
Point of correction, he is Igbo from Delta State.
Re: . by onuebonyi: 8:59pm On Oct 14, 2018
Cjrane2 is a bastard and not Igbo. We should not allow a bastard from another region to come and tell our story.



Osagyefo98:


Why not correct him or tackle if possible refute his submission if he is wrong.

I said this coz the last time I checked cjrane2 has supported igbos to the last if he is not igbo. He has consistently showed unwavering support and love for ndigbo. So if not for anything respect him for always showing solidarity to us and adding his voice in truthful manner even if he is not igbo.

#Atikulated obi 2019#
Re: . by Enugupikin: 9:00pm On Oct 14, 2018
NonsoWow:
I don't think Atiku has settled for peter obi yet. He is still leaving his options open pending the conclusion of negotiations with southeast leaders. That is why he has not made any statement on his VP choice especially on his twitter account where he is active. The opposition against peter obi is very strong and he will likely cave in to their request.
anything is possible..this is Nigeria..definitely he needs those governors to win and i am 100% certain about this...Atiku wont have nice outing without those guys..afterall presidential and gubernatorial elections are not the same day
Re: . by Cjrane2: 9:00pm On Oct 14, 2018
xfactor23:

Point of correction, he is Igbo from Delta State.

Truth is that i am MORE IGBO than Chino or Abagworo. That is why their silliness does not bother me at all.

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Re: . by ckenneths(m): 9:01pm On Oct 14, 2018
Hey, they have painted Ziks house cheesy

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