id4sho:

I've gat no fu‹king comment, Teaching hospitals are glorified mortuary. These medical student use patients for mere practice, imagine a medical student using Google to check your symptoms.
UNIVERSITY OF JOS TEACHING HOSPITAL, it shall not be well with you guys.

my 2cents

#BACKTODAURA

what type of a lie is this? I work in this institution and medical students don't do any procedures on patients.

Are you for real....a medical doctor should be in the lab to gain knowledge y not drop ur mbbs nd go for bmls..Guess a nurse and pharmacist still need the knowledge not only doctor...insanity is a virtue in ur land..

GogetterMD:
And how's this a problem? Still cannot understand why a lab scientist would feel threatened by this. It is essential that a medical doctor gets the basic training in all service delivery points of the Healthcare system, just as it is important to tie laboratory results to clinical scenarios

Have you seen how dumb u are??...your problem is reading nd understanding nothing else..doctors approve result??...seems lab scientists gives you errection,do you knw what is job description??...why are doctors always interested in the laboratory? ?....answer this question and udsnd where we are ahead,..pride will kill u pig

EVILFOREST:
The interesting thing is that a medical Doctor has to approve your results before the public can consume it.
Your INFERIORITY COMPLEX is gradually eating you up.
I wish you can leave Nigeria and come in contact with accomplished Lab. scientists.

Your MATES abroad are conducting meaningful researches that affect patients’ care positively, you are here thinking of how to convert your rented one room self contain into Lab. Just to prove to the ignorant Public that you are a Medical Doctor.

I heard a lot of you now hang STETHOSCOPES on the clings of your vehicles, portraying as medical doctors, please why can’t you just be proud of yourself...?
Some of u PHUCK ignorant Ladies using the name “medical Doctor”... I pity the deceived ladies.

If you want to be like them, then write JAMB.
Some are willing to give out their medical books to you for free.
Please, allow medical doctors some space.

I heard a lot of you now hang STETHOSCOPES on the clings of your vehicles, portraying as medical doctors, please why can’t you just be proud of yourself...?
Some of u PHUCK ignorant Ladies using the name “medical Doctor”... I pity the deceived ladies.

the above refers.
What the belk about stethoscopes. If you knew the use then you know its not limited to a particular personnel.
You may wish to know that Nurses, Physiotherapists, Rehabilitation Therapists, Emergency RoomAid workers among others need and make use of the stethoscopes.

The issue here should be everyone limiting himself to Hus scope of training, study and licensed practice. Whoever that imoersnates or practises illegally should be brought to book.
While there should be space for every stakeholder in the healthcare industry to appreciate and respect one another

ProdigalSaviour:
Have you seen how dumb u are??...your problem is reading nd understanding nothing else..doctors approve result??...seems lab scientists gives you errection,do you knw what is job description??...why are doctors always interested in the laboratory? ?....answer this question and udsnd where we are ahead,..pride will kill u pig

Hmmmm
Argue with facts.
Is it the LAB. SCIENTIST that does not prescribe now...
The greatest JOY of a medical Doctor remains that, when parents of these envious people fall sick, medical doctors are still consulted for treatment.
As a Lab. Scientist, please manage and treat yourself and your entire family when you encounter any clinical malady.
STOP DISTURBING MEDICAL DOCTORS

EVILFOREST:

Hmmmm
Argue with facts.
Is it the LAB. SCIENTIST that does not prescribe now...
The greatest JOY of a medical Doctor remains that, when parents of these envious people fall sick, medical doctors are still consulted for treatment.
As a Lab. Scientist, please manage and treat yourself and your entire family when you encounter any clinical malady.
STOP DISTURBING MEDICAL DOCTORS

You mean the medical doctors encroaching into other people's professional turf are the ones being disturbed here
Excellent logic

GogetterMD:
And how's this a problem? Still cannot understand why a lab scientist would feel threatened by this. It is essential that a medical doctor gets the basic training in all service delivery points of the Healthcare system, just as it is important to tie laboratory results to clinical scenarios

It's inferiority complex bro. The idiot that's championing the post, Favour Nnadi is still doing internship, he just graduated from Absu last yr, yet he's already fighting doctors that have been in the practice long b4 he got admission. We did pathology as a course in 4th yr, under which we did chemical pathology, hematology, and microbiology, and those courses require you to work in the lab. They are already threatened because wen they go on their useless strikes, nobody will miss them cos we know everything they know

KevinDein:

You mean the medical doctors encroaching into other people's professional turf are the ones being disturbed here
Excellent logic

Wat do u call encroachment? Even b4 medical lab science was started as a course in Nigeria, Doctors have been doing lab medicine. Why do u think Chem path, MBL, Virology, Hematology and histopatholgy are done by 400level medical students for 16 good months? No one is taking ur job, it's lab scientists that even encroach into our work by prescribing drugs. And they most tyms prescribe wrongly causing drug resistance for patients

peacettw:
SMH. For those who are not in the know, doctors also specialise in these areas mentione[/b]d. Rather than feel threatened, why not work with them and carve a niche for yourself? Nurses, pharmacists etc understand this and so should you.

I believe you are talking about pathologists, who have knowledge but do not undertake the required depth of training as medical laboratory scientists to make them competent enough to carry out most laboratory tests; their role is essentially to form an interface between the medical practitioner managing the patient and the laboratory by way of e.g. result interpretation and generally advising the doctor on any issue relevant to the requested investigation.

Pathology and medical laboratory practice have legally been defined as distinct from and another by judgment of the National Industrial court.
Accordingly, only a trained and registered medical laboratory scientist, licensed by the appropriate regulatory body ([b]MLSCN not M&DCN) is by law entitled to carry out medical laboratory investigations; any other person doing so (no matter how high his academic credentials) is technically a quack and liable to prosecution and conviction if found guilty.

id4sho:

I've gat no fu‹king comment, Teaching hospitals are glorified mortuary. These medical student use patients for mere practice, imagine a medical student using Google to check your symptoms.
UNIVERSITY OF JOS TEACHING HOSPITAL, it shall not be well with you guys.

my 2cents

#BACKTODAURA

so what he is a student and need clarification.

ProdigalSaviour:
Are you for real....a medical doctor should be in the lab to gain knowledge y not drop ur mbbs nd go for bmls..Guess a nurse and pharmacist still need the knowledge not only doctor...insanity is a virtue in ur land..

No need to go on the offensive. I'm just stating normal practice and quality standards in medical training globally. Doctors are the ones that make the clinical decisions concerning the health of the patient, not nurses, not pharmacists. While everyone in the Healthcare system is relevant and important, do not be myopic and let your seemingly inferiority complex be confused for microcosm.
And don't bother to respond to this, cause I won't respond back

cosmatika:

It's inferiority complex bro. The idiot that's championing the post, Favour Nnadi is still doing internship, he just graduated from Absu last yr, yet he's already fighting doctors that have been in the practice long b4 he got admission. We did pathology as a course in 4th yr, under which we did chemical pathology, hematology, and microbiology, and those courses require you to work in the lab. They are already threatened because wen they go on their useless strikes, nobody will miss them cos we know everything they know

Well, I'm still of the opinion that everyone in the health sector is important and relevant, but the doctor remains the centerpiece. I don't subscribe to belittling allied health workers, but in Nigeria, the irrelevant fight for supremacy has taken a rather toxic dimension in the Healthcare marketplace, negating the actual need to improve the quality of card

JuanDeDios:
I did a test once. When the result came out I discussed it with a church elder of ours who was a doctor at LUTH. He said the result didn't make sense because if I had what it said I had I would not be standing there talking to him. He said a lot of people get false results from labs. He said I should come to LUTH and he would run the test himself. That was done and it was found that the original test was a false positive.

Na you do yourself. You're lucky the doctor you met is a good man.

greyham:


Na you do yourself. You're lucky the doctor you met is a good man.

Biko, how I take do myself?

GogetterMD:
And how's this a problem? Still cannot understand why a lab scientist would feel threatened by this. It is essential that a medical doctor gets the basic training in all service delivery points of the Healthcare system, just as it is important to tie laboratory results to clinical scenarios

When an experienced consultant nurse or pharmacy prescribed drugs, doctors get angry and call then quacks

now then dey chook eye 4 another person lane. that us partiality

id4sho:

I've gat no fu‹king comment, Teaching hospitals are glorified mortuary. These medical student use patients for mere practice, imagine a medical student using Google to check your symptoms.
UNIVERSITY OF JOS TEACHING HOSPITAL, it shall not be well with you guys.

my 2cents

#BACKTODAURA

That is why they call it teaching hospital

JuanDeDios:
I did a test once. When the result came out I discussed it with a church elder of ours who was a doctor at LUTH. He said the result didn't make sense because if I had what it said I had I would not be standing there talking to him. He said a lot of people get false results from labs. He said I should come to LUTH and he would run the test himself. That was done and it was found that the original test was a false positive.

Hence medical doctors need to scrutinize lab results before giving it to patients

cosmatika:

Wat do u call encroachment? Even b4 medical lab science was started as a course in Nigeria, Doctors have been doing lab medicine. Why do u think Chem path, MBL, Virology, Hematology and histopatholgy are done by 400level medical students for 16 good months? No one is taking ur job, it's lab scientists that even encroach into our work by prescribing drugs. And they most tyms prescribe wrongly causing drug resistance for patients

Sir, I just finishedpath and Pharm in 28 weeks (7 month) and 2 months introductory postings.

Ioannes:
I just hate doctors generally and I despise Nigerian doctors particularly. Bunch of nitwits and Big Pharma pimps.

All they know how to do is recommend stupid drugs and needless tests and procedures.

Hopefully I'll never need them in my life. Shout out to all hardworking and compassionate nurses.

Not surprised, Johesu

mumumugu:



When an experienced consultant nurse or pharmacy prescribed drugs, doctors get angry and call then quacks

now then dey chook eye 4 another person lane. that us partiality

Are u just trying to be bias...or u lack information on the training of a doctor
.You cannot call this chooking eye...Doctors are trained pathologist, heamatogist they went through courses a biochemist, microbiologist, biotechnologist and even labscientis did and other medical science courses ..

Do u know there are doctors who dont just sit in Consultation rooms checking u for symptoms and prescribing drugs...
There's are doctors in the lab working with biotechnologist and biochemistry researchers to find cure to ailments at clinical trial level.......And you here u are saying it's chooking eye...Lab scientist are just angry it will mean doctors will come and form technical supervisor roles on them in their lab....Just like it is with nurses

ThIs is arrant nonsense and totally on unacceptable. The truth is that the field of medicine is very wide enough for every team player in the hospital strife to be the best in his or her field

ozo13:
nice observation however
Those Doctors u see on the roster are there for specialization job.so those 2nd and 3rd on call u see there are the senior registrar and consultant pathologist and they r the only people that can guide those 1st on call properly.even in advance countries same thing applies

I agree with you but I don't think there would have been a protest if those 1st and 2nd on call were Consultant pathologists or residents in Pathology. If the doctors are just there for bench work/call duty, I think a Medical lab scientist is in the best position to teach them.

U will not respond but u will read it for sure....when u talk of inferiority I smile at ur stupidity and arrogance,..U make clinical decisions,when people are sick they come to you...why referring them to the laboratory fucker .well don't need to talk to unaccomplished empty headed idiot like u,...you have mbbs but 've got no sense...U leave on payroll and ur rolling out shits bore on ignorance

GogetterMD:

No need to go on the offensive. I'm just stating normal practice and quality standards in medical training globally. Doctors are the ones that make the clinical decisions concerning the health of the patient, not nurses, not pharmacists. While everyone in the Healthcare system is relevant and important, do not be myopic and let your seemingly inferiority complex be confused for microcosm.
And don't bother to respond to this, cause I won't respond back

[quote author=naijaobi post=72098902]

Yeah, that's my point. Many a times, Doctors here in Nigeria divert patients to their private clinics. And of course i rightly said, Doctors don't have the right to own and run a pharmacy,

but here in Nigeria all of them do that.

That is not true. Many may run pharmacy but they need the license of the pharmacist to operate except they join the patient pharmacy union.

For the last point, i know a medical doctor employed in the zoology department in one of the top Universities in Nigeria.[/

Can you name the university

Don't respond but definitely u must read it....have realized u have only mbbs but you don't have sense??...inferior ko...if every body is important in the healthcare while not allow everybody to attend to his jurisdictions. ..a doctor wants to be a nurse,a scientist a pharmacist a pysiotherapist. A dietician.why not stick to ur duty..international best practice never advices Jack of all tread...wish u can exchange your ego for common sense

GogetterMD:

No need to go on the offensive. I'm just stating normal practice and quality standards in medical training globally. Doctors are the ones that make the clinical decisions concerning the health of the patient, not nurses, not pharmacists. While everyone in the Healthcare system is relevant and important, do not be myopic and let your seemingly inferiority complex be confused for microcosm.
And don't bother to respond to this, cause I won't respond back

Intrepid01:


You sure do not know what you are saying....Doctors are specialist in what? Lab science or what the heck did you just spill ?

I am not here to trade words with you. Do the homework yourself

wink2015:
It is only in Nigeria we see all this rubbish.

In Nigeria today, Bsc and HND degree dichotomy has been dragged by both politicians, educationist, and the citizenry for years.

If you do not want to scrap HND and replace it with Bachelor in Technology then make HND and BSC to enjoy the same status.

Back to the main topic, MBBS and Medical Laboratory Technology dichotomy.

My friend, HND and BSc are two different qualifications and for different purposes. If you are not happy with your current status as an HND holder then do yourself a favour and upgrade to BSc.
Stop disturbing us with your "HND and BSc are the same" mantra.

ProdigalSaviour:
Don't respond but definitely u must read it....have realized u have only mbbs but you don't have sense??...inferior ko...if every body is important in the healthcare while not allow everybody to attend to his jurisdictions. ..a doctor wants to be a nurse,a scientist a pharmacist a pysiotherapist. A dietician.why not stick to ur duty..international best practice never advices Jack of all tread...wish u can exchange your ego for common sense

With all due respect sir...What exactly do feel their work is so they can stick to it only...
For crying out loud , these people interphase with drugs, theres no how they won't dabble with pharmacy, they interphase with blood and tissues and diagnosis which is what lab scientist work with, u can't eliminate their presence from labs...It's really hard saying a doctor should stay in a lane....When they were trained almost all the course of medical science.....

Serious u knw everything and you still crying to be involved in the laboratories. .U see why pride is your problem...even in your laboratory medicine ur still handicapped why do you wanna come to ours...face your work leave others ....leave lab a lone ur mbbs no do u??

cosmatika:

It's inferiority complex bro. The idiot that's championing the post, Favour Nnadi is still doing internship, he just graduated from Absu last yr, yet he's already fighting doctors that have been in the practice long b4 he got admission. We did pathology as a course in 4th yr, under which we did chemical pathology, hematology, and microbiology, and those courses require you to work in the lab. They are already threatened because wen they go on their useless strikes, nobody will miss them cos we know everything they know

Vickygarl:

I agree with you but I don't think there would have been a protest if those 1st and 2nd on call were Consultant pathologists or residents in Pathology. If the doctors are just there for bench work/call duty, I think a Medical lab scientist is in the best position to teach them.

noo sir.they can't .the training is entirely different

InansBobo:











a teacher of the deceased took the case to the authorities but the scientist got a medical Doctor Who bears exactly the same name as his, and the medical doctor came up and said he owns the diagnostic centre and he was the one who did the operation (and certified doctors have the right to kill without prosecution)

fool you have been, fool you will always be..where will the lies lead you..tufia