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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by pkasso(m): 8:26pm On Oct 16, 2018
elampiro:


You have ignored the fact that Alves had more Assists and CC not just more than strikers, but also European top wing forwards.



So is not same same league that Di Maria, Draxler, etc play? To tell you more, Alves Assists per minutes played is better than all the players (wingers, strikers, wing forwards, AMC) in Monaco. To put it simple, Alves is number 7 on the list in the whole League 1 on Assists per minutes rating for players having more than 2000 playing minutes with such players as Neymar, Payet, Mbappe just coming ahead of him.



This is ridiculous. Alves still beats top players who played less number of minutes. So what the talk of sample. 2093 minutes, you are talking about 23 league matches. We are not even talking about UCL where he performed better on stats and even scored against Bayern Munich and Celtic.



Let us the the squawka comparison of the players on Assists and chances created. Then tackles.



You want to compare Kimmich with 1.1 tackle per match with Alves with 3.2 tackle per match. Alves has better defensive stats that those Kimmich and Wlaker you mentioned as well as over all stats. Even in the UcL.



Alves is no longer the beast he used to be, same with Ronaldo. But they have adapted their games to be more efficient. Na beast dey bring result?

Beast Ko Anima ni


You still aren't making any sense. Wing forwards are more likely to cut inside and SHOOT rather than whip in a cross. If you want to compare chances created, do it with wingbacks, playmakers and pure wingers. And let's see if Alves' stats are as amazing as you are trying to make it look.

Wetin concern me with Di Maria and Draxler? Nobody takes the Ligue One seriously in the scheme of things. Neymar scored 19 goals and had 13 assists in 20 games and yet could not make the shortlist of the biggest football awards.

You tried skewing the stats in Alves' favor by using the per minute ratio when the original numbers were not even close enough. Majority of the players you mentioned had more chances created and assists than Alves.

I don't know which Squawka profile you checked because Kimmich had a higher performance score than Alves in both their respective leagues and the CL. He created more chances and had more assists.

Alves had the upper hand in tackles which is not so surprising. Kimmich has never been a prolific tackler, even during his stint as a CB under Pep. Not because he can't tackle, but because he prefers to win the ball using less riskier means i.e interceptions. Alves edges it here with 4 to 3 per game. But all in all, Kimmich trumps Alves.

Your over reliance on stats shows how much you don't trust your brain in making decisions for you. Whatever happened to the good old eye test? That ability to observe and make conclusions based on what you see. Not necessarily depending on machines to generate numbers and figures that are subject to interpretation and can be manipulated to suit whatever purposes.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by EvilMetahuman: 8:38pm On Oct 16, 2018
Mumu team lipsrsealed
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by EvilMetahuman: 8:41pm On Oct 16, 2018
That ighalos 3rd goal Sha cool
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by lordfalcao(m): 8:48pm On Oct 16, 2018
airmark:


Whose fault was it that he was not getting more time? Was I the one that made Wenger not to have confidence in him? What would you do to a striker who went 580 minutes in a stretch, without a goal? Wenger was even generous. He was later bundled out in matches or given few minutes after firing blanks when it mattered most in December.
is that the reason he had more goals than belotti who played more minutes?

2017/18 season :
Belloti : 2951 mins ; 13 goals
Lacazette: 2758 mins : 17 goals

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 9:05pm On Oct 16, 2018
airmark:

Lacasera wasn't injured before he went 1 goal in 10 games. In fact that spurred Wenger to intensify aubas chase. Shameless liar.

Whst does this above mean

Laccazette in lesser minutes outscored Belloti last season
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by airmark(m): 10:14pm On Oct 16, 2018
lordfalcao:
is that the reason he had more goals than belotti who played more minutes?

2017/18 season :
Belloti : 2951 mins ; 13 goals
Lacazette: 2758 mins : 17 goals

Stop asking foolish questions. Go and ask a pro footballer in your village about the consequences of rushing a player back from a serious knee injury. If you don't have retentive memory to remember what I educated you in the past, that's your problem.

raumdeuter:


Whst does this above mean

Laccazette in lesser minutes outscored Belloti last season

It educated you on why lacasera wasn't having more minutes, as against what you wanted us to believe.

Most people lost confidence in him, including Wenger and soddick09. So stop talking about lesser minutes. He was given about 600 minutes in December, he didn't score.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by raumdeuter: 10:42pm On Oct 16, 2018
airmark:


Stop asking foolish questions. Go and ask a pro footballer in your village about the consequences of rushing a player back from a serious knee injury. If you don't have retentive memory to remember what I educated you in the past, that's your problem.



It educated you on why lacasera wasn't having more minutes, as against what you wanted us to believe.

Most people lost confidence in him, including Wenger and soddick09. So stop talking about lesser minutes. He was given about 600 minutes in December, he didn't score.

Lukaku went from October to mid December 8 games and scored just 1 goal. Kane went the whole of August without scoring

The main point is Lacasera scored more goals in less minutes than Bellotti

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 1:16am On Oct 17, 2018
nihilistjnr:


Ferguson called Scholes a midget and a runt

Erikson called Scholes Asthmatic

My job was simply to concatenate cheesy
E don tey when I hear this word

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by A40(m): 1:28am On Oct 17, 2018
Jemi7:


With scholes, he had two and playing in 4 finals, Liverpool with Steve had one playing in two finals
To be fair to Gerrard, Liverpool squad that year was rubbish. From goalkeeper to attack. After Owen left they didn't have a half decent striker till Torres came. Gerrard had his phuck ups but that team was usually bang average
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Jemi7: 7:35am On Oct 17, 2018
A40:
To be fair to Gerrard, Liverpool squad that year was rubbish. From goalkeeper to attack. After Owen left they didn't have a half decent striker till Torres came. Gerrard had his phuck ups but that team was usually bang average


Liverpool made and won the final after Owen and made another final before Torres, They made two finals in 3 seasons. This doesn't really say average in my opinion
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Greatihex(m): 8:00am On Oct 17, 2018
Jemi7:


Your greatest ever manager once said Hazard is on the same level as Ronaldo, Do you agree?
that is how you people tell lies. Show us where mourinho said that

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by Nobody: 8:09am On Oct 17, 2018
Mourinho would probably start Herrera on Saturday grin
Multiple man-marking on Hazard, i hope Pedro starts, could be another outlet.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 8:29am On Oct 17, 2018
A40:
To be fair to Gerrard, Liverpool squad that year was rubbish. From goalkeeper to attack. After Owen left they didn't have a half decent striker till Torres came. Gerrard had his phuck ups but that team was usually bang average

Alonso, carragher dudek, risse, finnan,
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 8:44am On Oct 17, 2018
A40:
E don tey when I hear this word

Data structure, that suppose be year 2 cheesy

well unless you're a programmer now, in what case you're a crappy one grin
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 8:53am On Oct 17, 2018
odizeey:
Alonso, carragher dudek, risse, finnan,

Xabi Alonso at Liverpool was not the same player as the one at Madrid or Bayern abeg.

Let me just pretend I didn't see the other names you wrote there
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 8:56am On Oct 17, 2018
Jemi7:


Liverpool made and won the final after Owen and made another final before Torres, They made two finals in 3 seasons. This doesn't really say average in my opinion

Anybody can stumble into a final, but that Liverpool team was average at worst, good at best. Gerrard carried Liverpool on his back for almost his entire career.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 8:58am On Oct 17, 2018
nihilistjnr:


Xabi Alonso at Liverpool was not the same player as the one at Madrid or Bayern abeg.

Let me just pretend I didn't see the other names you wrote there
so the others were rubbish? rubbish that won champions league. were was frog a and terry and your other superstars
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 9:00am On Oct 17, 2018
nihilistjnr:


Anybody can stumble into a final, but that Liverpool team was average at worst, good at best. Gerrard carried Liverpool on his back for almost his entire career.
why have you not stumbled in since 2012 na. why have Almighty hazard not been able to carry Chelsea on his back. bro no vex me
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 9:02am On Oct 17, 2018
odizeey:
why have you not stumbled in since 2012 na. why have Almighty hazard not been able to carry Chelsea on his back. bro no vex me

What kind of stupid talk is this early momo ffs?

Do I really have to explain the meaning of 'anybody can stumble into a final'? cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 9:06am On Oct 17, 2018
nihilistjnr:


What kind of stupid talk is this early momo ffs?

Do I really have to explain the meaning of 'anybody can stumble into a final'? cheesy
bros u say anybody can stumble in. how stupid can DAT be

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 9:07am On Oct 17, 2018
odizeey:
so the others were rubbish? rubbish that won champions league. were was frog a and terry and your other superstars

I think you have a mental problem.

so you can't be rubbish if your team wins UCL? Morata and Benzema didn't get the memo then.

To put it in further context for you, if you're old enough to remember, Djimi Traore starting in Istanbul for Liverpool....

Djimi Traore.

Google him if you don't know who he is, and then come back to read your post again cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 9:09am On Oct 17, 2018
nihilistjnr:


I think you have a mental problem.

so you can't be rubbish if your team wins UCL? Morata and Benzema didn't get the memo then.

To put it in further context for you, if you're old enough to remember, Djimi Traore starting in Istanbul for Liverpool....

Djimi Traore.

Google him if you don't know who he is, and then come back to read your post again cheesy
bros u dey change talk. una say all the players bar Gerrard na rubbish.
I'm telling you its false. no turn amala
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 9:10am On Oct 17, 2018
odizeey:
bros u say anybody can stumble in. how stupid can DAT be

Explain Portugal in Euro 2016. Let's start from there.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 9:18am On Oct 17, 2018
odizeey:
bros u dey change talk. una say all the players bar Gerrard na rubbish.
I'm telling you its false. no turn amala

this is what I said here:

nihilistjnr:


Anybody can stumble into a final, but that Liverpool team was average at worst, good at best. Gerrard carried Liverpool on his back for almost his entire career.

So maybe you should add comprehension or even eyesight issues to your growing list of problems.

Unlimited22 fit help you with eye drops for your apollo
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 9:23am On Oct 17, 2018
nihilistjnr:

Explain Portugal in Euro 2016. Let's start from there.
Ronaldo, nani, pepe , Sanchez,. they are rubbish
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 9:27am On Oct 17, 2018
nihilistjnr:


this is what I said here:



So maybe you should add comprehension or even eyesight issues to your growing list of problems.

Unlimited22 fit help you with eye drops for your apollo
conflicting sentences. what do u stand for?
are they all rubbish without Gerrard or not?
your story is too much.
and you insult a lot for a matured man.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 9:31am On Oct 17, 2018
odizeey:
Ronaldo, nani, pepe , Sanchez,. they are rubbish

Apart from Ronaldo, Nani, Pepe and Sanches were rubbish abeg.

Are you joking or being serious right now? cheesy
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 9:33am On Oct 17, 2018
nihilistjnr:


Apart from Ronaldo, Nani, Pepe and Sanches were rubbish abeg.

Are you joking or being serious right now? cheesy
rubbish that France couldn't win. so cos dey are not in big clubs dey are rubbish. bros forget.
Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 9:35am On Oct 17, 2018
odizeey:
conflicting sentences. what do u stand for?
are they all rubbish without Gerrard or not?
your story is too much.
and you insult a lot for a matured man.

The only person conflicted is you -

First you accuse me of saying something I did not say, then you're asking me to defend something I didn't say, while interspersing these false accusations with some incredibly daft and obtuse statements cheesy

That's why i said you have comprehension and possibly eyesight issues. These are not insults. They actually sound like facts cheesy

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by nihilistjnr: 9:37am On Oct 17, 2018
odizeey:
rubbish that France couldn't win. so cos dey are not in big clubs dey are rubbish. bros forget.

These are the kind of daft yarns that i'm talking about. Are you suggesting that the best team always wins the tournament? or that the better team always wins a match?

Are you not a manyoo fan? Is Derby County better than Manyoo?

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 9:39am On Oct 17, 2018
nihilistjnr:


The only person conflicted is you -

First you accuse me of saying something I did not say, then you're asking me to defend something I didn't say, while interspersing these false accusations with some incredibly daft and obtuse statements cheesy

That's why i said you have comprehension and possibly eyesight issues. These are not insults. They actually sound like facts cheesy
if you can't see the word ' anybody can stumble into a final' in your statement then u need to visit an optician.

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Re: Official Chelsea Fan Thread: Champions Of Europe 2021 by odizeey(m): 9:41am On Oct 17, 2018
nihilistjnr:


These are the kind of daft yarns that i'm talking about. Are you suggesting that the best team always wins the tournament? or that the better team always wins a match?

Are you not a manyoo fan? Is Derby County better than Manyoo?
OK the only game of tournament was the final abi. let derby go and win d tournament.

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