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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by enyiulo: 7:38pm On Oct 16, 2018 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by enyiulo: 7:38pm On Oct 16, 2018 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DEXTROVERT: 9:25pm On Oct 16, 2018 |
My welder gave me estimate of 250k for 4 bedroom burglars With the designs below I need technical advice Haven't done something like this before.. I beat it down from quotations of 285k using 3/4 bars They are 19 inclusive of toilet windows, kitachen and front with railings Also to plaster in and out was 170k workmanship and 80 bags of cement These pple want to kill me It lies on 11*18.5m Kindly help with your technical opinion I also need someone who can help with aluminum company located in ibadan.. Contact for aluminum supply
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by joycluv: 9:37pm On Oct 16, 2018 |
DEXTROVERT:Plz what's the height of this your roof? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DEXTROVERT: 9:47pm On Oct 16, 2018 |
joycluv: 3m |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Hajivince(m): 12:14am On Oct 17, 2018 |
bala221: You definitely need a structural drawing as it would help in a long way to save cost, give yhur building dah stability & robustness it should have. Should in case u still need one, just Call/Whatsapp: 08069452707 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by PRODUTIM1(m): 12:37am On Oct 17, 2018 |
Advice is needed on factors to consider in buying tiles. Which type should I avoid in buying and how will I identify a good tiles? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ThatHistoryGuy(m): 4:55am On Oct 17, 2018 |
PRODUTIM1: Greetings here When you go to buy tiles sir On floor tiles If you can afford Spanish,Italian ,China vitrified or Nigerian vitrified tiles go for either of them Even though within the market there Spanish tiles we called "Biscuit" due to its low quality but still most Spanish/italian tiles are of good quality either porlain or vitrified . However if you can't afford Spanish /Italian tiles go for China/Nigerian vitrified tiles. They are also very durable . On sizes 60x60 are best for sitting rooms and bedroom floors . while Glossy tiles are best for sitting rooms mathe tiles are best for bedrooms to reduce slip n fall. On kitchen and bathroom,you can go for 30x30 and 40x40 respectively. Avoid slippery tiles for bathrooms and kitchens. Also avoid ceramic tiles for bathrooms. On wall tiles You don't need to consider quality that much. So you can go for porcelain or ceramic tiles . Though Spanish wall tiles are more qualitative than Nigerian or China made but they are all good for walls . But if you have the money for for Spanish or China 30x60 cus Nigerian 25x40 lacks that original and consistent look. Below is a sample of China vitrified tile Contact me on 08157000908 WhatsApp enabled for more clarification,samples and prices quotes . Goodmorning. 1 Like 2 Shares
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by PRODUTIM1(m): 5:07am On Oct 17, 2018 |
ThatHistoryGuy:Thanks for the information |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by chekz169: 5:09am On Oct 17, 2018 |
Teezzbond: He inherited it from his father!!! |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ThatHistoryGuy(m): 5:30am On Oct 17, 2018 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ChiefSupplier55(m): 5:30am On Oct 17, 2018 |
PRODUTIM1:well mostly it depend on the kind of house you want to use it, yea if the house is a private house then you should go for the v.qualitative ones like the Spain(porcelain or vetrified) depending on you pocket, vetrified are much expensive than porcelain or you can go for Italian tiles v.good too. but if it is a commercial house then u can use low quality one mayb china or Nigeria vetrified or even porcelain depending hw you pocket can carry but note that mostly bigger one are been you use in the sitting room like 60x60, 75x75 etc then the smaller once for the room 40*40, 45*45 etc.all this depend on you pocket. when you get to the place you are buying it be careful nt to be cheated sir |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ChiefSupplier55(m): 5:35am On Oct 17, 2018 |
PRODUTIM1:well mostly it depend on the kind of house you want to use it, yea if the house is a private house then you should go for the v.qualitative ones like the Spain(porcelain or vetrified) depending on you pocket, vetrified are much expensive than porcelain or you can go for Italian tiles v.good too. but if it is a commercial house then u can use low quality one mayb china or Nigeria vetrified or even porcelain depending hw you pocket can carry but note that mostly bigger one are been you use in the sitting room like 60x60, 75x75 etc then the smaller once for the room 40*40, 45*45 etc.all this depend on you pocket. when you get to the place you are buying it be careful nt to be cheated you can call on the phone number 07016154456 for more information, price and purchasing |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 6:21am On Oct 17, 2018 |
DEXTROVERT: I plastered my three bed for 180k in n out including fixing of bulgary plus septic tank |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by ChiefSupplier55(m): 6:37am On Oct 17, 2018 |
PRODUTIM1: click here For information: https://www.nairaland.com/4781449/showroom-new-tiles-interior-exterior |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DEXTROVERT: 7:58am On Oct 17, 2018 |
twinskenny: I guess your location is lagos, PHC or SE.. Its located in ibadan Albeit.. Thanks for your response |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 8:59am On Oct 17, 2018 |
DEXTROVERT:ogun state.. and those who did the job came from ibadan lol |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 10:46am On Oct 17, 2018 |
Rubbiish: One simple question for you. A civil engineer basically does 2 things with an architectural building design, he analyzes then design the structural members. Which one does the architect participates in, structural analysis or structural design? The architect's output is the civil engineer's input, the civil engineer's output is either a failed or a safe design. There is no part of civil engineering that is subject to an architect's supervision. i.e to supervise is to observe and direct the execution of (a task or activity). In this case, an architect cannot direct structural analysis neither can he direct structural design. An architect determines the design input but cannot determine the output. If a civil engr does not have the mental capacity to achieve a safe design on an architect's design just like in the case of burg el arab, the architect is at liberty to consult another civil engineer with the required mental capacity. It is not because one tried and failed and the other tried and succeeded that it means the architect ensured the design. Lastly, this same situation exist in most professions, a Surgeon relies on an Anesthesiologist, both who are doctors. It doesn't say the surgeon supervises the anesthesiologist. The surgeon basically demands an output from the Anesthesiologist which if one cannot get him the desired output, he moves on to the next anesthesiologist until he gets the desired output or quit trying. The burg el arab architect kept seeking for that output from different civil engineers till one gave him the right output without which his idea would have remained an idea. An architect doesnt need to supervise a structural design to get the right output. 4 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Etranshub(m): 11:58am On Oct 17, 2018 |
DEXTROVERT:@ DEXTROVERT.... For that design of burglary (19 units toilet and kitchen inclusive with 3/4 rod) I can give you a better deal with wonderful finishing. You can use my signature to contact me I also have tons of designs you can choose from. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mountmoriah(m): 11:59am On Oct 17, 2018 |
DEXTROVERT:why don't you go for either casement windows or sliding windows with burglary, net and 5mm reflective glasses ? 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by qwertyboss(m): 3:14pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
[quote author=enyiulo post=72148295][/quote] What a pity! No axis? Hahahaaaa |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 4:33pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
adanny01: You're just trying to twist words. Architect ; Input. Civil/Structural Engineer; Output The reverse is the case for both professionals if I'm to follow your line of explanation. The architect's idea is generally an output and that's the essence of the 3D design of each structure. That's where the role of both professionals comes to play in the burg el arab structure. It's without the civil/structural engineer's input in the design that the architect's output becomes nothing but a dream. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by alstacs(m): 8:21pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
Hello house. My problem has always been in appropriate pricing of labour and I'm in another deep one again. I got a plumber to install Water Closet, Wash hand basin and shower mixer for 4 bathrooms after tiling. How much should a fair pay for him around Abuja? |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 8:57pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
bixton: Every professional job has an input and an output. An architect cannot satisfy a client without an input. The architect's input is the questions he asks the client or the idea the client has for the building. This translates to an output as a building design. The architect's building design is the structural engineers input. The structural engineers output is a safe structural design. A foundation engineer's input is a safe structural design. His output is a safe foundation design. A quantity surveyor's input is the all drawings including architectural, structural, foundation etc. The output is a BOQ. The architect is not responsible for all these professional jobs and cannot supervise. He collects all the output to use in management of the project. And so forth. Now, the main reason why the architect cannot supervise the engineers is that he cannot be responsible for the safety of the building during construction and life span. Long after the building is put to use, the Engineers are still responsible for the structural integrity of the building. This is why an engineers design is his responsibility and cannot be subjected to an architect's supervision. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 9:54pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
adanny01: The supervision being said has nothing to do with the bold. The architect supervises the engineer just to ensure that the desired output being a real life physical structure is achieveable. That's the supervision being talked about and not supervising the engineer on how to go about his/her structural designs. That's the real life scenario. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 10:03pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
bixton: The bolded is the problem. Achieveable means safe in this context. How could one who is not a civil engineer ensure that the design is safe? How will he know? How will the architect know the design is safe? Even if it is not safe, the architect is not responsible for it. In saner climes, the engineer signs an undertaking that it is safe and is responsible for the failure. The engineers signs the undertaking leveraging his life and career on that assurance. Why should the architect bother when its not his responsibility? Let me ask you this question, with all the building collapse in Nigeria, have you ever heard where an architect is being investigated for culpability in the collapse especially if the architect is not the contractor? 3 people are responsible for a building failure, the client, engineers (foundation and structural) and the contractor (builder). An architect is never responsible for safety. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 11:06pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
adanny01: Is that not applicable in Nigeria? In saner climes they sign an undertaking. Undertakings are of various types. A complete plan comes stamped by the relevant professionals who have given their input. That stamp, seal, etc, etc, in one instance is an undertaking because designs done were done in accordance to approved known codes. The other undertaking only prooves real professional knowledge and experience when done by whoever accepts the job. That's why on every plan, there's a written clause that's absolves the designer from any damage done to the structure if he/she is not responsible for the actual building/supervision of the structure. Let's not deviate from the main issue of "supervision" of a structure. Who is responsible for building integrity is not the discussion. Nigeria is an operational country and not a functional one. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 11:48pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
bixton: When i say undertaking, i dont mean sealing ordinary drawings. I mean a "letter of undertaking" signed and sealed. This is different to signing and sealing of drawings. This is a requirement for building permit. Ask yourself why is the engineers undertaking a requirement for building permit and not an architect. An architect cannot claim to supervise me when he is not going to sign my undertaking. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 11:58pm On Oct 17, 2018 |
adanny01: Like I said, there are various forms of undertakings. Every state has their own regulations. You just said, its a requirement for building permit. A building permit is an approval and does not necessarily mean the building to be built will follow safe building procedures. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by adanny01(m): 12:24am On Oct 18, 2018 |
bixton: Bro, you cant be serious about the bolded. Do you know that even the vetting engineer is partly responsible for issuing building permit? Its obvious you dont understand the implications but as an engineer, i do. Because its not your responsibility as an architect you want to think its an ordinary letter. That ordinary letter will put several engineers in jail in an event of a building collapse. You sound like an architect, building permits are responsibilities of engineers and you obviously think is just an ordinary letter. Please leave our profession to us. I know my responsibilities well. Undertaking Definition: formal pledge or promise to do something It is formal, and not to be taken lightly. An undertaking is professional responsibility of safety without which there is no building permit. It is a legal document o! Architect's dont commit their professional integrity to a building like an engineer does. Please give due, recognition to the engineers. 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bixton(m): 7:23am On Oct 18, 2018 |
adanny01: You keep interchanging words. The bold simply implies that the professional will adhere to approved acceptable procedures in carrying out his work. This is not an ego contest. Accepting the truth does in no way belittle one's profession. I am one of you and not the other as you've implied. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by diordaves(m): 8:11am On Oct 18, 2018 |
Adanny01 and bixton I think both of you have lost the plot. Supervision is not the word but "collaborative work" between the achitech and the engineers. The achitech work in collaboration with the engineers to ensure the aesthetic design of the building is brought to fruition. That is working with the engineers to correctly interprete the design in civil, structural, electrical and mechanical engineering terms. This is not supervision, this doesn't mean the achitech is oga. The achitech is on standby to explain any difficulty with the drawings. If they don't work together, it is possible the engineers will mess up the design of the the building especially if the drawings are complicated and esotic. 3 Likes |
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