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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:46am On Oct 18, 2018
safarigirl:
I am writing down the names of noise makers here for future reference. Tomorrow is not far

I am also writing down the names of those who like to replace others with shiny new toys, in case of next time.

Thank God Rohr is a dinosaur

Hmmmm....

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 10:56am On Oct 18, 2018
tbaba1234:
Possible areas of improvement

1. Midfield: Iwobi improves our chances of scoring goals but he does not control the midfield. Mikel appears to be the only one that does this. Etebo is hardworking but does not do it either. I suspect that Iwobi will return to the wings against SA.

I suspect Mikel, Onazi and Etebo will start..

I still feel the NFF is not being proactive in trying to find ways to improve.

The only basis for selection is outstanding consistent top class performances in your league and club.

It's apparent we need competition within the team for improvement. Considering the performances of Onazi in recent times for club and country should Onazi be in the team.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by TheSuperNerd(m): 10:58am On Oct 18, 2018
Lol... Time will tell soon enough shaa. It is the first game on Saturday on return to EPL action.


On Victor Moses, well, I don't see him competing with Hazard. I see that more as playing backup to Hazard. The guys he is really up against are Pedro and William coz he got no chance displacing Hazard now. Good thing he is getting a couple of mins at Chelsea here and there but I still feel a player of Moses' talents deserve more. 'Shame how he has been relegated to bit part roles.

On your dream to see him return to the SE. Well, Rohr still spoke on that recently and is still keeping the doors open for the man, Victor. Very courteous of Rohr but I don't know if Victor will take that return ticket. And even if he does return, not all Nigerians will have nice things to say. Expect Savage comments like, "Ohhh now he realizes it should have been the other way round right? Retire from the Chelsea bench to focus on your international career..." wink These and many more will pop up and it won't be an easy walk into the side as Musa is a sure starter now and Iwobi is also in wicked form. Moses Simon is there and has always been a Rohr Favorite and key player and the rising Samuel Kalu and Henry Onyekuru are also waiting in the picture of things.

Well, like I always say, time will tell. Let's see if Victor rescinds his decision because as it currently stands, the Super Eagles are still soaring even without him.



daveP:
I dunno, but I have this angle that Mou might just take this one despite the poor run of form. But Sarri na baba o.

Loved when I heard him saying VicMoses has to compete with Hazzy for a playing spot. I pray it increases his output and then he cancels retirement for GWG. we would have a beast at Afcon. oh gosh I didn't think of that angle. How GWG fans would react if VicMo returns to make the afcon team. shirt. Wahala go dey o.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:01am On Oct 18, 2018
Joebie:
Well yes, so how did u rate him before his long term injury? He’s clocked some minutes with Brentford lately. And even played as LB as well

Bruv hmmm

In football six months is a long time, A year is history and two years is archived.

Before his injury he was on the way up would probably be in an EPL team by now. Good on the ball technical and unpredictable with good pace. Maybe he could have added more goals but a a very good player.

But two years out of the game from injury. That is a mountain to climb.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by kellycute(m): 11:02am On Oct 18, 2018
komekn:



I do praise in context and it shouldn't be based on emotive sentiment. Should be objective.

When KC has an assist some celebrate it like he scored a hat trick. I am sorry that's not me. In reality you are settings the player up to fail by lowering his aspiration and adopting mediocrity.

KC should as a £25 million striker in Leicester , be getting a minimum of 10 goals a season in the EPL. That's my biased opinion as some will describe it. But currently in his second season has scored about 5 goals.

Is that something to celebrate

Well I don't think so and if you think that's HATRED then I leave you to your opinion.

I don't know Ighalo or KC personally so my preference is STRICTLY about performance. Your performance is basis for my preference. In this regard I prefer Ighalo and have always done.

Finally, constructive criticism is not HATRED but then as a man thinketh so he is. If your full of hate yourself what else can you see.
everyone here know about your hate and fact twisting skills so stop trying to run away from it. Wait till the end of the season before you can feed on your hatred for nacho but however, make sure you acknowledge his talent when he prove you wrong.. oh I don’t think you can do that. You rather eat poison than to say any good thing about nacho. Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh.., can a good heart bringeth forth hatred? Nahhh. So mr fact twister, stick to your narrative about nacho, I’m not expecting you to change Cos truth is far from your heart.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 11:07am On Oct 18, 2018
safarigirl:
based on current form Iheanacho is better than Sanchez, so, we should compare them?
Both if them are not in form haba! Moreover, the magnitude of Ighalo's current form is enormous. That is what Im talking about.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:19am On Oct 18, 2018
safarigirl:
na from Thursday we dey know as weekend go be

So, you know of fair assessments in football? But you did not give Chukwueze that fairness
when you said he wasn't a decent player based on few minutes you watched of him.

Wonders grin

In football everything is about seizing the moment much much more so as a youth player.

You have little time to impress, you better use it well be courageous be unpredictable be outstanding.

In those few minutes he was none of those things playing for Villarreal against Rangers. Now compare him to the 18 year old Middleton who came on for Rangers. My opinion and comments were strictly in the context of that match which your comments are not.

From your comments it seems you did not watch the full match, Well I did. Can I ask did you watch the match ❓ ❓

You are leaping before looking and taking matters out of context. Might I suggest preconceived aversion to my view even before examination.

Finally, don't put words on me that I haven't specifically spoken that's MISREPRESENTATION as you already know Barrister to be.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:20am On Oct 18, 2018
What I don't like is when someone will see Iwobi right in front of him and try to make some silly pass instead. All of a sudden Musa, Ndidi and Etebo want to prove that they can make telling passes. Look, just play it simple and let the boy do the job he is put on the pitch for.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:22am On Oct 18, 2018
komekn:


I still feel the NFF is not being proactive in trying to find ways to improve.

The only basis for selection is outstanding consistent top class performances in your league and club.

It's apparent we need competition within the team for improvement. Considering the performances of Onazi in recent times for club and country should Onazi be in the team.

Onazi has been on form for club and he had one bad game against England, apart from that he has been solid.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by MetalJigsaw(m): 11:23am On Oct 18, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
I would rather see Libya qualify than SA at least as pay back for 2015.
And I think that's the likely occurrence. If Libya gets to defeat them at home, I see them crashing out because we'll most likely beat them in their homeland, and I have no doubt about Libya flogging the Seychelles in their final game.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:24am On Oct 18, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


Victor Moses has retired. Simon Moses has the juice now.

Victor Moses is substantially better.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:26am On Oct 18, 2018
daveP:



I'm not comfortable with the way the Press doesn't seem interested in finding out why he just chose to hang the boots. This guy has really done a great service far above the performance and output of most of his current GWG teammates. Even when he flops, his teammates don't even take over. they watch. I don't get why he is treated like this. Perhaps this has the handwriting of the Glass House on it!!!! Even Pinnick isn't saying a word.

Agreed without reservation

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by komekn(m): 11:33am On Oct 18, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


Onazi has been on form for club and he had one bad game against England, apart from that he has been solid.

Thanks for the correction.

I admit I don't really follow happenings in the Turkish league. But Onazi for me has not been IMPRESSIVE in recent games. I am looking at from the perspective of what he use to do and what he does now. For me there is drop in quality and application.

How many games has he played and or MOTM has he won this season or goals scored for his club.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by superbloke(m): 11:35am On Oct 18, 2018
komekn:


Never noticed you before.

But from nowhere you seem to have a lot of presumptuous deductions which imply you have already taken sides.

Either that or you jumped without looking.

Yea, I don't post much, mainly because i don't like to be drawn in long debates. But I've been on here for a long time.

I don't have to take any side to point out an observation (that your comment which i quoted was...somehow). You have not seen enough of my posts to decide which side I'm on. Why does there even have to be sides?

Anyway, like I said, my comment goes both ways. I hope you don't tag me based on this sha. That would be emotive, don't you think?

Nothing personal man.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:35am On Oct 18, 2018
Has anybody noticed that Iwobi never tries to head the ball?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:38am On Oct 18, 2018
komekn:


Victor Moses is substantially better.

substantially retired u mean? Let the man enjoy his international breaks in peace.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by oloriooko(m): 11:45am On Oct 18, 2018
BascoVanVeli:
Has anybody noticed that Iwobi never tries to head the ball?
Because that's what he uses in playing; his head wink

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:48am On Oct 18, 2018
oloriooko:

Because that's what he uses in playing; his head wink

So other dey use wetin? That is a very bad habit to have tbh. He could cost us a goal that way.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:53am On Oct 18, 2018
komekn:


Thanks for the correction.

I admit I don't really follow happenings in the Turkish league. But Onazi for me has not been IMPRESSIVE in recent games. I am looking at from the perspective of what he use to do and what he does now. For me there is drop in quality and application.

How many games has he played and or MOTM has he won this season or goals scored for his club.



Started all matches for his club this year. They are flying high so it would be hard for their DMF to get MOTM.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:54am On Oct 18, 2018
safarigirl:
probabky because they were moving forward too easily rather than screening the defence like they should have. When both midfielders like to drift higher up the pitch, the likelihood of the opposition drifting past them is very high


Nope. You could see Iwobi pressing the goalkeeper sometimes, he is supposed to be setting the pace and in that case he is signalling that the press should be aggressive, in that case one of Ndidi or Etebo has no choice but to push forward and cover the position vacated by Iwobi. I mean if you sit deep it still wouldn't change anything especially since the Libyans were willing to shoot from far out
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by peterd53(m): 11:55am On Oct 18, 2018
daveP:



I'm not comfortable with the way the Press doesn't seem interested in finding out why he just chose to hang the boots. This guy has really done a great service far above the performance and output of most of his current GWG teammates. Even when he flops, his teammates don't even take over. they watch. I don't get why he is treated like this. Perhaps this has the handwriting of the Glass House on it!!!! Even Pinnick isn't saying a word.

Oga V.moses just deh arrogant. Wat has he achieve compare to Mikel? D guy doesn’t just take d national team serious. He’s just a player with attitude similar to Kevin.p. Boateng
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by BascoVanVeli(m): 11:58am On Oct 18, 2018
O wow Iwobi vs Iheanacho to bring back the restart of the EPL.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 11:59am On Oct 18, 2018
kellycute:
everyone here know about your hate and fact twisting skills so stop trying to run away from it. Wait till the end of the season before you can feed on your hatred for nacho but however, make sure you acknowledge his talent when he prove you wrong.. oh I don’t think you can do that. You rather eat poison than to say any good thing about nacho. Out of the abundance of the heart, the mouth speaketh.., can a good heart bringeth forth hatred? Nahhh. So mr fact twister, stick to your narrative about nacho, I’m not expecting you to change Cos truth is far from your heart.


You know what? You actually add absolutely zero intellectual input in this thread, you just scream Iheanacho from morning to night, looking for his haters. I do not see you supporting even the SE with such vigour, it is getting stale

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SlayerForever: 12:05pm On Oct 18, 2018
Beautiful day today.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Mickael2(m): 12:07pm On Oct 18, 2018
BascoVanVeli:


The wingers are expected to hug the line so as to create that space for Iwobi. There is no AMF that will just stand in one spot waiting on the ball. I did not drop Etebo because he was poor but so he can be a game changer later in the game. Onazi is capable of locking down the midfield defensively, he also knows when to use a hard foul to send a message and those SA boys are not ready for that.

the wingers will not hug the line if they are not instructed to. Watch Musa and see that our formation is not 'touch-line' oriented, so they can't just enter the match and start hugging the touchline after spending the entire training session cutting into the box, that would then be on the coach for poor game planning. No AMF stands in a spot, yes, but no AMF will virtually become a winger all game long even when the team is defending, Iwobi is too used to that wide role that instructing him to play as an AMF may not work in the national team, it has to start from his club.

So you are ok with Onazi's poor disciplinary record? If he gets a yellow early in the game do you know what Percy Tau will do with him?
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Kog45(m): 12:09pm On Oct 18, 2018
tbaba1234:


Oga, we can't compare Giroud with Ighalo. They are worlds apart.

Giroud was largely used as a substitute playing 30 mins or less in most of his first few years with France.

Ighalo for the most part has been a regular.

Their actual minutes on the pitch is not the same .
We are taking this Ighalo issue too far.

I think we should now judged him based on his last performance in GWG.If he messed up again we hammer him and that’s football but for now he is the beast.

Ighalo regular for eagles?yes you are right.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by elyte89: 12:11pm On Oct 18, 2018
Mickael2:



You know what? You actually add absolutely zero intellectual input in this thread, you just scream Iheanacho from morning to night, looking for his haters. I do not see you supporting even the SE with such vigour, it is getting stale


SAVAGE grin grin grin

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Curtisaxel7(m): 12:17pm On Oct 18, 2018
Oasis007:


IGHALO IS BEING STARVED OF ASSISTS (clear-cut Chances), thus how do we expecting him to be banging Goals?! Can you Guys compare Midfielders and Wingers that played with Yekini, Obagoal and co to the present ones?!

The Chance he missed against the Argies ain't that Spectacular?! It ain't a tap-in Chance he missed, neither the pass was laid to him in the Box, so why Fuss or Wailing?!


The bolded is the koko. Ighalo NEVER lost form for us. NEVER!. He simply wasn't fed the right passes.

Our fullbacks at the WC were piss poor. Idowu was particularly USELESS!. Not a single meaningful cross from him throughout the tournament!. No overlapping, nothing. The midfield was just non existent. How many defence splitting passes did Ighalo get?.

He is a striker for heaven's sake, you don't expect him to create chances for himself!.

Put Ighalo in a team with a proper midfield and watch him score until you beg him to stop.

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by SlayerForever: 12:20pm On Oct 18, 2018
Considering his performance for both club and country: Iwobi on the wings or Iwobi as the 10. Which will be of more benefit to the national team? @edi247.
Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 12:42pm On Oct 18, 2018
New competition will always make the regulars watch their back. We must promote excellence in all the playing depts. the invitation of Success was a good one. If Success cannot give Ighalo a good competition, he should be dropped else he would start getting comfortable that his SE shirt at least is secure
Danielnino00:



You have said it all jare... Rohr knew what he was risking by sticking with Ighalo though I think Rohr was preparer to give Ighalo his last chance against Libya that prompted the recall of Isaac Success...
Rohr has made a lot of gambles since he took over but I think Uzoho and Ighalo case paid off the most...

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Re: "The Super Eagles Thread: The Road To AFCON 2025 And 2026 World Cup by Joebie: 1:01pm On Oct 18, 2018
Alright, I will be monitoring his progress this season

komekn:


Bruv hmmm

In football six months is a long time, A year is history and two years is archived.

Before his injury he was on the way up would probably be in an EPL team by now. Good on the ball technical and unpredictable with good pace. Maybe he could have added more goals but a a very good player.

But two years out of the game from injury. That is a mountain to climb.

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