the brand name; Toyota, is a strong vehicle, the masses run with it and they are saved....

where two or more people are gathered in that brand name, Toyota is there in their midst......

finally........

at the name of Toyota, every brand must bow and confess that Toyota is lord of autos...

to me, the one major reason I would choose one car over another is availability of expertise.....
I cannot leave my current Job and start doing another persons job overnight because I want to drive what I like..... and time too....

BMW, Peugeot, Land Rover etc.... if the expertise is sufficient... then I would gladly use it.
but like I said sometime ago, I would use a 607 if and only if, ikenna351 is my next door neighbor who is owing me both in cash and kind!

for starters, their systems are complex and not as simple as the japs, hence only a select few have mastered them. translating to more money to be removed from the pocket in case of any "incasity".

me..... I am not "yet" ready to master another vehicle/ brand, maybe next year or next 2, 3 years.... but not now!
u guys can continue jare....

Pipedreams:


My next car would be a C350 benz 2012 and above. I love it because of its class not neccessarily the power. A G35 is faster

A G35 is NOT faster than a 2012 C350.

HeavenlyBang:


What's this nonsense. There's absolutely nothing wrong with choosing not to work on specific brands. Better to focus on your strengths and the best market.


I mean, there are techies that only work on specific parts, even. Maybe only transmissions, and won't touch any other parts of a car. It's called specializing and anyone with half a brain knows that's how you make the big bucks.

some times I wonder how some people managed to open nairaland on their phone....... maybe mistakenly.... but then who helped them to create and activate their accounts? baffles me!

only a dumb bunny would think a mechanic that specializes is quack, esp in a country like this where time is money.... people like Glen sef would still need to research before handling some kain brands.. with all the certifications oh....

sometimes I wonder...... seriously.....
I even get scared when I hear that a particular mechanic knows all brands and all subsystems of a ride..... anyone that has achieved that is the exception and not the norm (esp here in naija)

updated.... diportivo is here.... make I mute... no go fall im hand

HeavenlyBang:


A G35 is NOT faster than a 2012 C350.

It is but slightly. It churns 301hp while the G produces 306hp

Pipedreams:


It is but slightly. It churns 301hp while the G produces 306hp

HP matters
But at times
It doesn't equate to speed
Though the g35 is faster than the c350
A stock c350 has 268hp and the blue efficiency has 288
HeavenlyBang, I don't know where you're getting your 300 from

Pipedreams:


It is but slightly. It churns 301hp while the G produces 306hp

Follow am enter road, see whether you go fit follow am contest.

Edit: C350 has 273 ft-lbs of torque at 3500 rpm. G35 has 268 ft-lbs at 5200 rpm. Plus differences in transmission. Goodluck not getting destroyed.

mammanbawa:

HP matters
But at times
It doesn't equate to speed
Though the g35 is faster than the c350
A stock c350 has 268hp and the blue efficiency has 288
HeavenlyBang, I don't know where you're getting your 300 from

2011 had a new engine. M276, I believe. The C350 does 302 HP from 2011 downwards.
268 HP is 2006-2010. M272.

Pipedreams:


It is but slightly. It churns 301hp while the G produces 306hp

On Nigerian roads that I am familiar with...I will still trash your G with a 1990's manual transmission Toyota starlet don't ask me how.

HeavenlyBang:


A G35 is NOT faster than a 2012 C350.

Do you mean a 2012 G35?

HeavenlyBang:


Done 180km/h on my ES330. I don't think it could have gone much faster than that, tbh, but it still felt grounded.

The ES 330's are not built for speed. Lexus focused on luxury and that is what u get. I mean u literarily get isolated to the outside word, u might even fall asleep because u won't even hear the engine sound unless u rev high. Lexus made it's success not from performance but from luxury quiet comfortable ride which the infinity g35 or Acura TL cannot give u. If performance is ur priority then leave the es330 alone. The exterior may not be the best but the jnteririor speaks something different. Comfortable leather, nice stereo, smooth quiet ride. By the way which naija road sef u want dey do 180km/hr? Unless maybe someone that travels very frequently, but then again ur gonna need that comfort if u travel very often and that's what the Lexus brand offers. So it's a win win for Lexus and this is why they sell so many cars.

Pipedreams:


Es330 is cool. That rx 330 doesnt look stable o. The car just hang for air. Guys dont risk ur lives. Cars like g35, IS350 and C350 are sports sedans built for speed.

Rx 330 is an SUV so u don't expect it to be quick or stable with corners. Just that some people are ignorant and feel they can drive it like a sedan. There are only a few SUVs out there that are made for speed, most of them have high rollover rate especially the taller ones. Don't expect an siv or cuv to drive like a sedan.

Philadelphia:


Do you mean a 2012 G35?

2007/2008 Infiniti G35 vs 2011/2012 MB C350.

Kamalu5258:
I've hit 210km/h once on my 607 racing one guy with Sonata that thought his Hyundai can run

Bro, no hating or disrespecting, but the 607 is not actually a quick car. 0-60 in 9.2 seconds is pretty slow for a sedan. Eveb the v6 version does 0-60 in 8 seconds, quarter mile 15.9 seconds A lot of Japanese cars with smaller engines are faster. That u outrun someone doesn't necessarily mean he car is quicker, maybe the person doesn't wanna race or doesn't have the experience or maybe the car is not in perfect order.

Just saying though, 607 is a beautiful ride, but quick? Nope, actually too slow for it's looks. 9.2 seconds is the 0-60 time of many heavy SUV's, in fact Rx 330 does 7.5 secs while 1999 rx300 does 8.7 secs and these are not entirely quick cars. Even the Rx 330 is still faster than a v6 607 in quarter mile not to talk of an i4 version which u drive.

Pipedreams:


My next car would be a C350 benz 2012 and above. I love it because of its class not neccessarily the power. A G35 is faster

make sure you have 6m naira to cough out and you can maintain it properly.
Cost and arm and a leg to run.
First hand experience

Pipedreams:


It is but slightly. It churns 301hp while the G produces 306hp

But more hosrsepower doesn't necessarily mean faster. Some cars have 400+ horses and are still slower than some 300+ hp cars.

HeavenlyBang:


2007/2008 Infiniti G35 vs 2011/2012 MB C350.

That comparison doesn't make sense. Why not compare cars of same years and class?
You're comparing cars 4 years apart. Even KBB or Cars.com doesn't make such comparisons.
In fact, this makes the infiniti feel superior because you're comparing it to a car produced 4 years after. So what happens if you compare it to same car of same year?

greenhulk:


Bro, no hating or disrespecting, but the 607 is not actually a quick car. 0-60 in 9.2 seconds is pretty slow for a sedan. Eveb the v6 version does 0-60 in 8 seconds, quarter mile 15.9 seconds A lot of Japanese cars with smaller engines are faster. That u outrun someone doesn't necessarily mean he car is quicker, maybe the person doesn't wanna race or doesn't have the experience or maybe the car is not in perfect order.

Just saying though, 607 is a beautiful ride, but quick? Nope, actually too slow for it's looks. 9.2 seconds is the 0-60 time of many heavy SUV's, in fact Rx 330 does 7.5 secs while 1999 rx300 does 8.7 secs and these are not entirely quick cars. Even the Rx 330 is still faster than a v6 607 in quarter mile not to talk of an i4 version which u drive.

I never said quarter mile race bro, but most of those quick Japs when they get to 120-140km/h go flat out and not much juice anymore that's when the power of the Lion kicks in remember there's a difference between speed and acceleration (SS1 physics class). Was talking about speed here not acceleration. With the 607 usually, the speed gains kick in at third gear that's when the Lion starts to roar. When you think you've dusted me, watch me inch closer by the second, pass you and keep going like you didn't even pass me in the first place. Third gear is where the power gain kicks in. It has to do with the ECU programming.

greenhulk:


The ES 330's are not built for speed. Lexus focused on luxury and that is what u get. I mean u literarily get isolated to the outside word, u might even fall asleep because u won't even hear the engine sound unless u rev high. Lexus made it's success not from performance but from luxury quiet comfortable ride which the infinity g35 or Acura TL cannot give u. If performance is ur priority then leave the es330 alone. The exterior may not be the best but the jnteririor speaks something different. Comfortable leather, nice stereo, smooth quiet ride. By the way which naija road sef u want dey do 180km/hr? Unless maybe someone that travels very frequently, but then again ur gonna need that comfort if u travel very often and that's what the Lexus brand offers. So it's a win win for Lexus and this is why they sell so many cars.

You say lexus are not built for speed; what about the 2018 Lexus LC LC 500 RWD?

greenhulk:


Rx 330 is an SUV so u don't expect it to be quick or stable with corners. Just that some people are ignorant and feel they can drive it like a sedan. There are only a few SUVs out there that are made for speed, most of them have high rollover rate especially the taller ones. Don't expect an siv or cuv to drive like a sedan.

Drive the GLK350 or infiniti fx35 or fx45 then give me feedback on it rolling over.

greenhulk:


Bro, no hating or disrespecting, but the 607 is not actually a quick car. 0-60 in 9.2 seconds is pretty slow for a sedan. Eveb the v6 version does 0-60 in 8 seconds, quarter mile 15.9 seconds A lot of Japanese cars with smaller engines are faster. That u outrun someone doesn't necessarily mean he car is quicker, maybe the person doesn't wanna race or doesn't have the experience or maybe the car is not in perfect order.

Just saying though, 607 is a beautiful ride, but quick? Nope, actually too slow for it's looks. 9.2 seconds is the 0-60 time of many heavy SUV's, in fact Rx 330 does 7.5 secs while 1999 rx300 does 8.7 secs and these are not entirely quick cars. Even the Rx 330 is still faster than a v6 607 in quarter mile not to talk of an i4 version which u drive.

You said nothing about the performance of the sonata. I have frustrated a 2013 sonata with a Toyota 1.8L engine made several years before the sonata.
Now tell us the 1/4 mile or 0-60 mph of the sonata and let's compare it with the Peugeot 607.

Kamalu5258:
I never said quarter mile race bro, but most of those quick Japs when they get to 120-140km/h go flat out and not much juice anymore that's when the power of the Lion kicks in remember there's a difference between speed and acceleration (SS1 physics class). Was talking about speed here not acceleration. With the 607 usually, the speed gains kick in at third gear that's when the Lion starts to roar. When you think you've dusted me, watch me inch closer by the second, pass you and keep going like you didn't even pass me in the first place. Third gear is where the power gain kicks in. It has to do with the ECU programming.

Yes there's a difference between speed and acceleration, but the 607 is not quick, though can get to a very high speed but will take a really long time to get there. We don't have too many stretches of roads here to take advantage of the top speed. Moreover the time it will take for it to get to it's top speed, the Japs would have user that time to accelerate faster and by the time the Peugeot is playing catch up, u probably would have gotten to a bend, break start accelerating again and the jap would still be ahead due to quick acceleration which is more important than top speed (unless ur on Autobahn).

Kamalu5258:
I never said quarter mile race bro, but most of those quick Japs when they get to 120-140km/h go flat out and not much juice anymore that's when the power of the Lion kicks in remember there's a difference between speed and acceleration (SS1 physics class). Was talking about speed here not acceleration. With the 607 usually, the speed gains kick in at third gear that's when the Lion starts to roar. When you think you've dusted me, watch me inch closer by the second, pass you and keep going like you didn't even pass me in the first place. Third gear is where the power gain kicks in. It has to do with the ECU programming.

which japs are we talking about ejoo.

I have comfortably gone 110mph with my i4 Camry....
when I mean comfortably, I mean it.... I have videos of this experience.... even posted a pic... had to take it down though......

and this is an i4

my eod v6 is another story entirely....... and the Camry does not come close to it @ all...

so what is the basis of ur argument?



btw



Toyota!!!

Philadelphia:


That comparison doesn't make sense. Why not compare cars of same years and class?
You're comparing cars 4 years apart. Even KBB or Cars.com doesn't make such comparisons.
In fact, this makes the infiniti feel superior because you're comparing it to a car produced 4 years after. So what happens if you compare it to same car of same year?

I'm not sure what you're talking about, I wasn't the one who compared them at first.

Pipedreams:


My next car would be a C350 benz 2012 and above. I love it because of its class not neccessarily the power. A G35 is faster

Philadelphia:


You say lexus are not built for speed; what about the 2018 Lexus LC LC 500 RWD?

Come on, man, those are Lexus' performance cars. Even the IS350 and G350 are built for performance, hence RWD. The ES and LS, though, are designed for comfort and luxury like he said.

Philadelphia:


You said nothing about the performance of the sonata. I have frustrated a 2013 sonata with a Toyota 1.8L engine made several years before the sonata.
Now tell us the 1/4 mile or 0-60 mph of the sonata and let's compare it with the Peugeot 607.

Bro, I'm not here to argue whether the sonata is fast or not, just saying the 607 is too slow for it's looks. I'm not here to fight anybody, just stating the facts.

But since u asked for 0-60 times, the 6th gen Hyundai sonata (2010-2014) has different engines so depends on the one u are talking about.

2013 sonata se 4 cyl 0-60 is 7.7 secs. Quarter mile 15.9 secs.

2013 sonata 2.0T 4 cyl 0-60 is 6.4 secs. Quarter mile 14.5 secs

Ur 1.8L Toyota is probably a Corolla, now show me which Corolla has these acceleration. Not everyone u outrun on the highway actually want to race, I've had many Corollas overtake me on the highway looking at me and feeling their cars are faster than 05 Acura TL 270 hp and 0-60 in 5.8 secs, quarter mile 14.4 secs. I just look at them and smile and say I don't have ur time.

greenhulk:


Bro, I'm not here to argue whether the sonata is fast or not, just saying the 607 is too slow for it's looks. I'm not here to fight anybody, just stating the facts.

But since u asked for 0-60 times, the 6th gen Hyundai sonata (2010-2014) has different engines so depends on the one u are talking about.

2013 sonata se 4 cyl 0-60 is 7.7 secs. Quarter mile 15.9 secs.

2013 sonata 2.0T 4 cyl 0-60 is 6.4 secs. Quarter mile 14.5 secs

Ur 1.8L Toyota is probably a Corolla, now show me which Corolla has these acceleration. Not everyone u outrun on the highway actually want to race, I've had many Corollas overtake me on the highway looking at me and feeling their cars are faster than 05 Acura TL 270 hp and 0-60 in 5.8 secs, quarter mile 14.4 secs. I just look at them and smile and say I don't have ur time.

Exactly. My car isn't the fastest but I'd absolutely smoke any Corolla. Still I see Corolla drivers trying to overtake all the time. I go just free them, make dem dey go their way. Sometimes I let them pass, then accelerate and pass them again, just to mess with them.


In my experience, Corolla drivers are some of the most obnoxious around, tbh. Apologies to any reading this. They'll be disturbing not knowing that their 1.8L engine go start dey cry if people take them seriously.

greenhulk:


Bro, I'm not here to argue whether the sonata is fast or not, just saying the 607 is too slow for it's looks. I'm not here to fight anybody, just stating the facts.

But since u asked for 0-60 times, the 6th gen Hyundai sonata (2010-2014) has different engines so depends on the one u are talking about.

2013 sonata se 4 cyl 0-60 is 7.7 secs. Quarter mile 15.9 secs.

2013 sonata 2.0T 4 cyl 0-60 is 6.4 secs. Quarter mile 14.5 secs

Ur 1.8L Toyota is probably a Corolla, now show me which Corolla has these acceleration. Not everyone u outrun on the highway actually want to race, I've had many Corollas overtake me on the highway looking at me and feeling their cars are faster than 05 Acura TL 270 hp and 0-60 in 5.8 secs, quarter mile 14.4 secs. I just look at them and smile and say I don't have ur time.

badt guy, this ur jap that people are always under-rating ehn

..

HeavenlyBang:


Exactly. My car isn't the fastest but I'd absolutely smoke any Corolla. Still I see Corolla drivers trying to overtake all the time. I go just free them, make dem dey go their way. Sometimes I let them pass, then accelerate and pass them again, just to mess with them.


In my experience, Corolla drivers are some of the most obnoxious around, tbh. Apologies to any reading this. They'll be disturbing not knowing that their 1.8L engine go start dey cry if people take them seriously.

chaiiiiii

but, anyone buying a corolla with performance in mind should be flogged na, most times people buying it are trying to get the best of fuel economy, availability of parts (chinko ET all) , expertise and most of all.......



resale value ..... this one is very important oh, I have seen naija third hand corolla sold for over a million naira .... 05 accidented corolla oh..... and I weak.

anyone trying to race it is just being overly dramatic...
BTW, there was this Benz during my last trip from the south east..... the guy was moving like angels were pulling him.... u know why this was so particular? the ride was on full load, stacked to the brim with people and cargo.... and me with my empty Camry, I was shocked.....
a Benz must join my fleet oh, by fire by force by nwanneni's ride.... I must add that Benz by God's GRACE

obekediamondfuto:




chaiiiiii

but, anyone buying a corolla with performance in mind should be flogged na, most times people buying it are trying to get the best of fuel economy, availability of parts (chinko ET all) , expertise and most of all.......



resale value ..... this one is very important oh, I have seen naija third hand corolla sold for over a million naira .... 05 accidented corolla oh..... and I weak.

anyone trying to race it is just being overly dramatic...
BTW, there was this Benz during my last trip from the south east..... the guy was moving like angels were pulling him.... u know why this was so particular? the ride was on full load, stacked to the brim with people and cargo.... and me with my empty Camry, I was shocked.....
a Benz must join my fleet oh, by fire by force by nwanneni's ride.... I must add that Benz by God's GRACE

lol.come december,i will get another one and i will invite you for a test drive.
If you like it,i will let you make the offer,you might be surprised of what i might accept!
I am good like that!
P.S;if you buy a car from me,you just got yourself a toks.

greenhulk:


The ES 330's are not built for speed. Lexus focused on luxury and that is what u get. I mean u literarily get isolated to the outside word, u might even fall asleep because u won't even hear the engine sound unless u rev high. Lexus made it's success not from performance but from luxury quiet comfortable ride which the infinity g35 or Acura TL cannot give u. If performance is ur priority then leave the es330 alone. The exterior may not be the best but the jnteririor speaks something different. Comfortable leather, nice stereo, smooth quiet ride. By the way which naija road sef u want dey do 180km/hr? Unless maybe someone that travels very frequently, but then again ur gonna need that comfort if u travel very often and that's what the Lexus brand offers. So it's a win win for Lexus and this is why they sell so many cars.

Yea right the poor man's Mercedes.... Well I drive a Merc so you can appreciate those qualities from the originators of luxury cars.

Kamalu5258:
I never said quarter mile race bro, but most of those quick Japs when they get to 120-140km/h go flat out and not much juice anymore that's when the power of the Lion kicks in remember there's a difference between speed and acceleration (SS1 physics class). Was talking about speed here not acceleration. With the 607 usually, the speed gains kick in at third gear that's when the Lion starts to roar. When you think you've dusted me, watch me inch closer by the second, pass you and keep going like you didn't even pass me in the first place. Third gear is where the power gain kicks in. It has to do with the ECU programming.

I'd like to show you a few things with an E320 Mercedes....

Philadelphia:


You say lexus are not built for speed; what about the 2018 Lexus LC LC 500 RWD?

That's a pure exception.