A40:
I'm telling you why they finished 6th. They had an aging core. If you don't get that by now then don't be wasting my time

So you are aware of this all three whole yet raumdeuter want Hazard to win ucl the next year when all the senior players have regressed due to age.

nihilistjnr:


Anybody can fire a long shot from timbuktu, especially when you have valdes in goal, but Scholes was never Ferguson's preferred choice in central midfield if he had other options.

in 2001, Fergusin broke transfer record to sign veron, and he chased Scholes away from central midfield. When Veron flopped - he went and brought Kleberson, and Djemba Djemba. The next year bought Mikel. After that brought Carrick, Anderson, Hargreaves etc.

Through out scholes career, Ferguson was always shopping for central midfielders. In UCL 2009 final, he benched SCholes for Ji sung park ffs.

Scholes went to England and was pursued away from CM by Lampard and Gerrard. Scholes saw that he would never break into that position again for England and tendered his resignation letter - and he was still in his twenties!

This is how the newspaper from paul Scholes own hometown describes what happened when scholes met a real world class midfielder

Manchester United were dominated by Barca not just Paul Scholes, it will interest you to note that your revered Ronaldo was on the pitch that day but couldn't do nothing. We can therefore conclude that if Ronaldo came up against Messi and Barcelona every other season, he wouldn't have won more than one UCL, the one where a goal from Scholes did the magic.

patrickmuf:
Manchester United were dominated by Barca not just Paul Scholes, it will interest you to note that your revered Ronaldo was on the pitch that day but couldn't do nothing. We can therefore conclude that if Ronaldo came up against Messi and Barcelona every other season, he wouldn't have won more than one UCL, the one where a goal from Scholes did the magic.

You people are the one that said he was a midfield controller. My own job was to show you what happened when Scholes actually met the real midfield controllers - He was either dominated along with his team mates or dropped.

You can't be telling me about a guy who chose to retire in his twenties to avoid competing with Lampard and Gerrard, and saying such a person is a controller.

In this discussion of world class see why John Terry the ultimate carry along can't be called world class

In his former life he was probably a polythene bag

Ibime:


I no dey like people dey talk nonsense. There is no single match Xavis team did not dominate possession. Even the Pirlo he's shouting, if Pirlo played Xavi in his prime, Pirlo will not collect more than 30% possession. Modric would hardly touch ball or any midfielder you care to mention. And the fool said Xavi is just a Kroos.

Xavi was a Boa-constrictor. He suck oxygen out of your midfield until your team give up.

Rubbish post, Xavi played in a tiki taka system and you are here shouting suck oxygen, suck possession, shey wetin tiki taka come mean b4? b4 luis aragones and pep guardiola them wan been offload am go bayern, xavi started getting recognition from 2008, b4 then him name no the ring bell,

don't get me wrong, he was a fantastic Midfielder but the system he played in helped him a lot, if you like carry a midfield of pirlo, makelele, de bruyne and zidane under the management of SAF against that prime barca team, possession go still read 70-30 in favor of barca

hensben:
So you are aware of this all three whole yet raumdeuter want Hazard to win ucl the next year when all the senior players have regressed due to age.

Chelsea went from CL winners to group stage exit after buying Hidden Hazard, the only defending champion to crash out after group stages

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Con men everywhere

I gats enter church business oo

Abeg you guys should not disrespect Xavi. There are things Xavi did in his prime that might never be replicated.

Xavi benefitted from tiki taka no doubt, but it is certain that level of tiki taka would not have been possible without Xavi.

Greatest and most dominant central midfielder in the modern era.

Lampard, Gerrard, Scholes, Pirlo, Xabi Alonso, Modric, Kroos e.t.c are all counterfeit next to Xavi. The eye test proclaims it, the stats confirm it.

afrodoc2:

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Lampard, Gerrard, Scholes....

Shey you people can see the order in which our dearly beloved doctor listed these players...

Yall scummies should learn from your elders

weedtaker:
Rubbish post, Xavi played in a tiki taka system and you are here shouting suck oxygen, suck possession, shey wetin tiki taka come mean b4? b4 luis aragones and pep guardiola them wan been offload am go bayern, xavi started getting recognition from 2008, b4 then him name no the ring bell,

don't get me wrong, he was a fantastic Midfielder but the system he played in helped him a lot, if you like carry a midfield of pirlo, makelele, de bruyne and zidane under the management of SAF against that prime barca team, possession go still read 70-30 in favor of barca

Sharrap!

To have a system, you must have a midfield controller. When we talk about Chelsea system now, we know Jorginho is the main catalyst for the system.

After Xavi, we saw how Barca struggled to assert the same dominance, with Iniesta continuing his 50-60 passes per game standard.

Thank God you say before Luis Aragones, cos Aragones already implemented that system with Xavi as fulcrum before Pep became a manager.

You no know ball!

nihilistjnr:


Shey you people can see the order in which our dearly beloved doctor listed these players...

Yall scummies should learn from your elders

You too like trouble.

What if i told you i arranged it in pyramid form ascending from the lower ranked i.e Lampard and peaking at Pirlo and descending again back to lower ranked i.e Kroos.

Well it is no shock you are an iconoclast seeing that you support a club with no icons.

Leave Paul Scholes for us and stick to your Kerry Dixon and Bobby Tambling.

Ibime:


Sharrap!

To have a system, you must have a midfield controller. When we talk about Chelsea system now, we know Jorginho is the main catalyst for the system.

After Xavi, we saw how Barca struggled to assert the same dominance, with Iniesta continuing his 50-60 passes per game standard.

Thank God you say before Luis Aragones, cos Aragones already implemented that system with Xavi as fulcrum before Pep became a manager.

You no know ball!

Lol, na you no know ball, remove xavi and put scholes or any top class controller there and nothing go change.

Ibime:


Shutup!

Xavi is the most dominant midfielder of all time.

The last time any team faced a Xavi midfield and came away with more possession was in 2006.

Most times during El-Classico, when they build up Ronaldo vs Messi rivalry, the analysis was unfair on Ronaldo because Xavi would choke Ronaldo out the game.

Xavi would ensure Ronaldos team only collect 25% possession and Ronaldo never touches the ball. Wicked Xavi.

I wont argue with u thats what we are made to believe and i wont tap u out of it, xavi is a very respected player home and abroad that what bring positive comment and bias ranking use 2010 as a yardstick sneijder is head and shoulder better than xavi that year. Xavi is great undoubtedly but not as what we think and made to believe u can watch some xavi's, iniesta's, modric's, pirlo's matches over again and u will see what am saying. i did it too.

hensben:
So you are aware of this all three whole yet raumdeuter want Hazard to win ucl the next year when all the senior players have regressed due to age.

See excuse. Is that why Hazard has only scored 8 goals in 6 years in the Champions League? Nobody has decried Hazard's failure to win the CL but to post 8 paltry goals is unacceptable

OVA200:
I wont argue with u thats what we are made to believe and i wont tap u out of it, xavi is a very respected player home and abroad that what bring positive comment and bias ranking use 2010 as a yardstick sneijder is head and shoulder better than xavi that year. Xavi is great undoubtedly but not as what we think and made to believe u can watch some xavi's, iniesta's, modric's, pirlo's matches over again and u will see what am saying. i did it too.

bros make I hear word,even as a real Madrid fan I know how good prime xavi was and he was indeed the most dominant midfielder in the modern era,go and watch barca vs real Madrid in 2010 and tell me how sneijder was better than that xavi infact watch the world cup final again(xavi vs sniejder in midfield),nobody dominated xavi in midfield,your best hope was to abandon midfield and counter
attack. sniejders inter Milan and mourihno's Madrid did just that.Paul scholes on the other hand used to be outplayed by teanage fabregas if not for scary Rooney and ronaldo for counter(and arsenal lack of proper defensive midfielder) united would have gotten nothing from those fixtures,meanwhile Redondo destroyed scholes and Keane in 2000.

OVA200:
Wetin person no go read for this thread, hazard world class in 2015 not anymore in 2016 and 2017 but regain his world class title back in 2018, pogba world class in 2015 but not anymore; is being world class seasonal award? You need to play to some extent to earn world class status after earning the status their might be dip in form or injury but u will still be called world class because u have lighten the game in your prime. And being world class doesnt mean u are the best at that time but its ur contribution to ur team success over a period that earn u world class title; pique is a world class defender but he has never be the best defender in the world.

Pique has never been world class. You guys should stop misusing that word.

A40:
See excuse. Is that why Hazard has only scored 8 goals in 6 years in the Champions League? Nobody has decried Hazard's failure to win the CL but to post 8 paltry goals is unacceptable

This is how you guys misyarn here. This is Hazard’s six seasons in Chelsea and we have qualified to ucl four times out of six so where did you get 6 seasons in ucl?

raumdeuter:


Chelsea went from CL winners to group stage exit after buying Hidden Hazard, the only defending champion to crash out after group stages

How is that Hazard’s fault.

madrid5:
bros make I hear word,even as a real Madrid fan I know how good prime xavi was and he was indeed the most dominant midfielder in the modern era,go and watch barca vs real Madrid in 2010 and tell me how sneijder was better than that xavi infact watch the world cup final again(xavi vs sniejder in midfield),nobody dominated xavi in midfield,your best hope was to abandon midfield and counter
attack. sniejders inter Milan and mourihno's Madrid did just that.Paul scholes on the other hand used to be outplayed by teanage fabregas if not for scary Rooney and ronaldo for counter(and arsenal lack of proper defensive midfielder) united would have gotten nothing from those fixtures,meanwhile Redondo destroyed scholes and Keane in 2000.

No mind that guy.

HE NO KNOW BALL!

madrid5:
bros make I hear word,even as a real Madrid fan I know how good prime xavi was and he was indeed the most dominant midfielder in the modern era,go and watch barca vs real Madrid in 2010 and tell me how sneijder was better than that xavi infact watch the world cup final again(xavi vs sniejder in midfield),nobody dominated xavi in midfield,your best hope was to abandon midfield and counter
attack. sniejders inter Milan and mourihno's Madrid did just that.Paul scholes on the other hand used to be outplayed by teanage fabregas if not for scary Rooney and ronaldo for counter(and arsenal lack of proper defensive midfielder) united would have gotten nothing from those fixtures,meanwhile Redondo destroyed scholes and Keane in 2000.

The same Fabregas that Anderson nobody used to bully and outplay even at his prime?

hensben:
This is how you guys misyarn here. This is Hazard’s six seasons in Chelsea and we have qualified to ucl four times out of six so where did you get 6 seasons in ucl?

He didn't play Champions League football for Lille? Abi when we're compiling those stats for Hazard you think those games won't be included? Anyhow you want to spin it Hidden Hazard has been a nyonkyem disappointment in the Champions League

madrid5:
bros make I hear word,even as a real Madrid fan I know how good prime xavi was and he was indeed the most dominant midfielder in the modern era,go and watch barca vs real Madrid in 2010 and tell me united would have gotten nothing from those fixtures,meanwhile Redondo destroyed scholes and Keane in 2000.

Redondo was a Monster. Pity he had such a short prime

For those that have been wondering about the whereabouts of Diggz. I got a mail from him today. He’s fine.

larride:
For those that have been wondering about the whereabouts of Diggz. I got a mail from him today. He’s fine.

Thank God.

Unlimited22:

Thank God.

Yeah I was relieved when I got his mail.

larride:


Yeah I was relieved when I got his mail.

Did he say why he has been absent from here?

hensben:
How is that Hazard’s fault.

If your attacker is dropping 8 goals in 6 seasons of CL football

hensben:
This is how you guys misyarn here. This is Hazard’s six seasons in Chelsea and we have qualified to ucl four times out of six so where did you get 6 seasons in ucl?

Na you dey misyarn pass. this is Hazards 7th season in Chelsea played CL 5 times with Chelsea and 1 time with Lille

In all dropped a disaster 4 goals from open play

A40:
Redondo was a Monster. Pity he had such a short prime

perez the fool drove him out of madrid just because he nor support am during election ,redondo was better than scholes the guy nor just get hype like scholes

eph12:

The same Fabregas that Anderson nobody used to bully and outplay even at his prime?

Provide one game where this happened.

raumdeuter:


Na you dey misyarn pass. this is Hazards 7th season in Chelsea played CL 5 times with Chelsea and 1 time with Lille

In all dropped a disaster 4 goals from open play

5+1 = 7.
Wow

Unlimited22:

5+1 = 7.
Wow

You are not in the UCL this season but this is his 7th season in Chelsea, no?