obekediamondfuto:


which japs are we talking about ejoo.

I have comfortably gone 110mph with my i4 Camry....
when I mean comfortably, I mean it.... I have videos of this experience.... even posted a pic... had to take it down though......

and this is an i4

my eod v6 is another story entirely....... and the Camry does not come close to it @ all...

so what is the basis of ur argument?



btw



Toyota!!!

I always feel sad when cars are being talked about and someone like you starts preaching Toyota... especially the Camry...souless dull uncharacteristic uncharitable heaps of metal

HeavenlyBang:


Exactly. My car isn't the fastest but I'd absolutely smoke any Corolla. Still I see Corolla drivers trying to overtake all the time. I go just free them, make dem dey go their way. Sometimes I let them pass, then accelerate and pass them again, just to mess with them.


In my experience, Corolla drivers are some of the most obnoxious around, tbh. Apologies to any reading this. They'll be disturbing not knowing that their 1.8L engine go start dey cry if people take them seriously.

Yeah, I do that a lot too. Let them pass and then speed up and overtake just to let them know, and then get back to my cruising speed. But when I see car wey run pass my own I no dey near them.

obekediamondfuto:




chaiiiiii

but, anyone buying a corolla with performance in mind should be flogged na, most times people buying it are trying to get the best of fuel economy, availability of parts (chinko ET all) , expertise and most of all.......



resale value ..... this one is very important oh, I have seen naija third hand corolla sold for over a million naira .... 05 accidented corolla oh..... and I weak.

anyone trying to race it is just being overly dramatic...
BTW, there was this Benz during my last trip from the south east..... the guy was moving like angels were pulling him.... u know why this was so particular? the ride was on full load, stacked to the brim with people and cargo.... and me with my empty Camry, I was shocked.....
a Benz must join my fleet oh, by fire by force by nwanneni's ride.... I must add that Benz by God's GRACE

Lmao, German cars are built to be able to take on the Autobahn. There's a massive difference in engineering ideologies between Japanese and German cars, and it translates into highway performance. You'd be surprised to see an old Audi 80 doing something similar.

Philadelphia:


Drive the GLK350 or infiniti fx35 or fx45 then give me feedback on it rolling over.

I clearly said there are few SUVs that are fast in acceleration and top speed, Mercedes Benz GLK, Porsche panamera, etc are in the category of the few. Infinity fx 35 is not in that category. Though it drives like a sedan (it's not particularly an SUV, low ground clearance, small cargo space and very small head room) and has an agressive look, mad exhaust note but do not be deceived, its not as quick as it looks and top speed is no way near the GLK or cayenne, though still faster than an average SUVs/Cuvs

greenhulk:


I clearly said there are few SUVs that are fast in acceleration and top speed, Mercedes Benz GLK, Porsche panamera, etc are in the category of the few.

Porsche Cayenne, you meant to say?

Used to be my dream car but those things are rare af here. They're also expensive af to clear at customs.

Philadelphia:


You say lexus are not built for speed; what about the 2018 Lexus LC LC 500 RWD?

Read again, I said Lexus ES330, not all lexuses. Most Lexus family sedans are not built for speed, the Lexus LC is a grand tourer/performance car. Are all Mercedes Benz built for performance?

HeavenlyBang:

Porsche Cayenne, you meant to say?

Used to be my dream car but those things are rare af here. They're also expensive af to clear at customs.

Yeah, Porsche cayanne, also the panamera turbo is pretty quick and can go top speed with ease.

HeavenlyBang:


Lmao, German cars are built to be able to take on the Autobahn. There's a massive difference in engineering ideologies between Japanese and German cars, and it translates into highway performance. You'd be surprised to see an old Audi 80 doing something similar.

Hehehe Audi is another crossbreed of the Merc with the BMW.

HeavenlyBang:


I'm not sure what you're talking about, I wasn't the one who compared them at first.

HeavenlyBang:


2007/2008 Infiniti G35 vs 2011/2012 MB C350.

You compared them at "second" here
Na there you find my trouble.

CityNGR:

I always feel sad when cars are being talked about and someone like you starts preaching Toyota... especially the Camry...souless dull uncharacteristic uncharitable heaps of metal

nah, I ain't preaching it, don't even love the feel, but I reacted based on the 140km/h someone posted.

inasmuch as the model isn't known for speed, I find my comfort in it and it's not as bad as that guy said......

I can do past 140 clean and clear with more than enough strength to reach 180..... so.........

it's not that bad! and when both cars break down @ uromi or onicha ugbo,

then we will see how fast we can both get back on the road.... when u in ur 2006 BMW or Audi

Philadelphia:





You compared them at "second" here
Na there you find my trouble.

Lol, but I was only clarifying the terms of the initial comparison. That said, Nissan absolutely kills it in terms of performance. It's impressive that a four-year older engine of the same capacity can produce more power and comparable torque.

And the 2009/2010 G37 will hang out with the 2012 C350 comfortably. Really impressive stuff. Cars like the 370z will flat out destroy anything Mercedes puts out in that class (price considered).

greenhulk:


Read again, I said Lexus ES330, not all lexuses. Most Lexus family sedans are not built for speed, the Lexus LC is a grand tourer/performance car. Are all Mercedes Benz built for performance?

greenhulk:


The ES 330's are not built for speed. Lexus focused on luxury and that is what u get. I mean u literarily get isolated to the outside word, u might even fall asleep because u won't even hear the engine sound unless u rev high. Lexus made it's success not from performance but from luxury quiet comfortable ride which the infinity g35 or Acura TL cannot give u. If performance is ur priority then leave the es330 alone. The exterior may not be the best but the jnteririor speaks something different. Comfortable leather, nice stereo, smooth quiet ride. By the way which naija road sef u want dey do 180km/hr? Unless maybe someone that travels very frequently, but then again ur gonna need that comfort if u travel very often and that's what the Lexus brand offers. So it's a win win for Lexus and this is why they sell so many cars.

I read again and I have carefully highlighted where you made general statements about the "Lexus brand". I think you should be articulated when speaking on brands and models just for next time.

*modified*
Why do "they" sell so many cars again? For comfort or performance? And by "they", who do you refer to? Lexus or Lexus Es330?

obekediamondfuto:



nah, I ain't preaching it, don't even love the feel, but I reacted based on the 140km/h someone posted.

inasmuch as the model isn't known for speed, I find my comfort in it and it's not as bad as that guy said......

I can do past 140 clean and clear with more than enough strength to reach 180..... so.........

it's not that bad! and when both cars break down @ uromi or onicha ugbo,

then we will see how fast we can both get back on the road.... when u in ur 2006 BMW or Audi

Nah in my ultra reliable Merc 2001 E320 M112 engine aka Roadmaster.. BMW Audi kwa

greenhulk:


I clearly said there are few SUVs that are fast in acceleration and top speed, Mercedes Benz GLK, Porsche panamera, etc are in the category of the few. Infinity fx 35 is not in that category. Though it drives like a sedan (it's not particularly an SUV, low ground clearance, small cargo space and very small head room) and has an agressive look, mad exhaust note but do not be deceived, its not as quick as it looks and top speed is no way near the GLK or cayenne, though still faster than an average SUVs/Cuvs

It's obvious that you don't know anything about the Infiniti fx35. First, it's an SUV; secondly, it's faster than your Lexus ES330.
The 2006 Infiniti fx35 does 0-60mph in 6.79 secs with 280hp
Your Lexus ES330 (at most a 2006) does 0-60mph in 7.75 secs with only 218hp

Did I read you write that the Infiniti fx35 is not fast? Don't let it's heavy looks deceive you. It will disgrace your Lexus ES330 on the highway.
Mind you, top speed of the infinitive fx35 is 130mph or 209.215kmph while your Lexus Es330 does 143mph or 230kmph but trust me, your Lexus may go kaput before it does 230kmph. Here comes where weight and torque plays important roles. The Infiniti fx35 has it with suspension and handling that will make it really hard to somersault.

greenhulk:


Bro, I'm not here to argue whether the sonata is fast or not, just saying the 607 is too slow for it's looks. I'm not here to fight anybody, just stating the facts.

But since u asked for 0-60 times, the 6th gen Hyundai sonata (2010-2014) has different engines so depends on the one u are talking about.

2013 sonata se 4 cyl 0-60 is 7.7 secs. Quarter mile 15.9 secs.

2013 sonata 2.0T 4 cyl 0-60 is 6.4 secs. Quarter mile 14.5 secs

Ur 1.8L Toyota is probably a Corolla, now show me which Corolla has these acceleration. Not everyone u outrun on the highway actually want to race, I've had many Corollas overtake me on the highway looking at me and feeling their cars are faster than 05 Acura TL 270 hp and 0-60 in 5.8 secs, quarter mile 14.4 secs. I just look at them and smile and say I don't have ur time.

It was a 4cyl sonata not the 2.0T. Now compare that specs to the 2005 Toyota matrix xrs and tell me something. Meanwhile, the guy wanted to race.

HeavenlyBang:


Lol, but I was only clarifying the terms of the initial comparison. That said, Nissan absolutely kills it in terms of performance. It's impressive that a four-year older engine of the same capacity can produce more power and comparable torque.

And the 2009/2010 G37 will hang out with the 2012 C350 comfortably. Really impressive stuff. Cars like the 370z will flat out destroy anything Mercedes puts out in that class (price considered).

Anything but not the 2012 c63 AMG coupe

obekediamondfuto:



nah, I ain't preaching it, don't even love the feel, but I reacted based on the 140km/h someone posted.

inasmuch as the model isn't known for speed, I find my comfort in it and it's not as bad as that guy said......

I can do past 140 clean and clear with more than enough strength to reach 180..... so.........

it's not that bad! and when both cars break down @ uromi or onicha ugbo,

then we will see how fast we can both get back on the road.... when u in ur 2006 BMW or Audi

I'm sorry but the BMW would have either reached the destination or would breakdown miles ahead of the Toyota. Both can't be at same place at same time na

HeavenlyBang:


2011 had a new engine. M276, I believe. The C350 does 302 HP from 2011 downwards.
268 HP is 2006-2010. M272.

It's still an M272 with more direct injection.

Philadelphia:

It's obvious that you don't know anything about the Infiniti fx35. First, it's an SUV; secondly, it's faster than your Lexus ES330.
The 2006 Infiniti fx35 does 0-60mph in 6.79 secs with 280hp
Your Lexus ES330 (at most a 2006) does 0-60mph in 7.75 secs with only 218hp

Did I read you write that the Infiniti fx35 is not fast? Don't let it's heavy looks deceive you. It will disgrace your Lexus ES330 on the highway.
Mind you, top speed of the infinitive fx35 is 130mph or 209.215kmph while your Lexus Es330 does 143mph or 230kmph but trust me, your Lexus may go kaput before it does 230kmph. Here comes where weight and torque plays important roles. The Infiniti fx35 has it with suspension and handling that will make it really hard to somersault.

Lol.

1. The FX35 is a crossover and its ground clearance is poor.
2. I'm the ES guy. Greenhulk uses an Acura TL, and the FX35 won't even see the TL's tail lights in a race.

Philadelphia:

Anything but not the 2012 c63 AMG coupe

Price considered.
G37 was a 45k car brand new, I believe. A C63 is a 90k car. Literally half the price. There's nothing Mercedes produced under 50k that wouldn't get gapped by a G37.

mammanbawa:

It's still an M272 with more direct injection.

Details are sketchy as it appears MB used different engines on the C350 across different markets, but the US C350 that does 300HP+ is almost definitely the M276.

https://forums.mbclub.co.uk/threads/the-complete-m276-engine-thread.191752/

greenhulk:


I clearly said there are few SUVs that are fast in acceleration and top speed, Mercedes Benz GLK, Porsche panamera, etc are in the category of the few. Infinity fx 35 is not in that category. Though it drives like a sedan (it's not particularly an SUV, low ground clearance, small cargo space and very small head room) and has an agressive look, mad exhaust note but do not be deceived, its not as quick as it looks and top speed is no way near the GLK or cayenne, though still faster than an average SUVs/Cuvs

FX 35 is faster than a GLK

HeavenlyBang:


Details are sketchy as it appears MB used different engines on the C350 across different markets, but the US C350 that does 300HP+ is almost definitely the M276.

https://forums.mbclub.co.uk/threads/the-complete-m276-engine-thread.191752/

It's a detuned 276

HeavenlyBang:


Lol.

1. The FX35 is a crossover and its ground clearance is poor.
2. I'm the ES guy. Greenhulk uses an Acura TL, and the FX35 won't even see the TL's tail lights in a race.


Price considered.
G37 was a 45k car brand new, I believe. A C63 is a 90k car. Literally half the price. There's nothing Mercedes produced under 50k that wouldn't get gapped by a G37.

Did you see where it is stated that the infiniti fx35 is a SUV?
Now you're bringing the Acura TL here. I thought we were comparing the infiniti fx35 with the Lexus Es330? Are we done with that now before we go to the Acura TL?

mammanbawa:

It's a detuned 276

No, it's the M276.

I'm not sure what model had the detuned M276 with 248 HP but the 2012 C350 uses an M276 making 302 HP and 273 ft-lbs of torque.

Philadelphia:


Did you see where it is stated that the infiniti fx35 is a SUV?
Now you're bringing the Acura TL here. I thought we were comparing the infiniti fx35 with the Lexus Es330? Are we done with that now before we go to the Acura TL?

Semantics. The FX35 is a CUV. Same platform as the G and M sedans. That's irrelevant here, of course. My only point is that its ground clearance is pretty bad, like Greenhulk said. Drive one and see.

And I was just clarifying that the guy you were talking to doesn't even drive an ES. And I don't think anyone ever said an ES330 was comparable to an FX35, performance wise.

Philadelphia:

Anything but not the 2012 c63 AMG coupe

Or the SLS
SL63
SL65
AMG GT
Sha these are all turbo charged V8 monsters except the NA 6.2l SLS

HeavenlyBang:


No, it's the M276.

I'm not sure what model had the detuned M276 with 248 HP but the 2012 C350 uses an M276 making 302 HP and 273 ft-lbs of torque.

These sites are mixing things up
According to Wikipedia
The 350 has the KE m272 engine with 268 hp
The blue efficiency has a DE m272 engine with 288hp
I believe if it was raised to 302 hp it woulda been stated
But like you said
It might be a variation of markets sha
Or maybe
Just maybe, the sites are not aware that the 276 in the c350 is a detuned one

HeavenlyBang:


Semantics. The FX35 is a CUV. Same platform as the G and M sedans. That's irrelevant here, of course. My only point is that its ground clearance is pretty bad, like Greenhulk said. Drive one and see.

And I was just clarifying that the guy you were talking to doesn't even drive an ES. And I don't think anyone ever said an ES330 was comparable to an FX35, performance wise.

What's your source that the infiniti fx35 is a CUV? It's a SUV

Philadelphia:


What's your source that the infiniti fx35 is a CUV? It's a SUV

Before you ask that you must first understand what a CUV is. It's pretty much a raised sedan. Uses same platform as a sedan.

FX uses same platform as G, M, and 350z. It's a CUV.
Toyota Rav4 is a CUV.
Crosstour is a CUV.
Venza is a CUV.

These are all facts, whether you like them or not.

See first image below.

mammanbawa:

These sites are mixing things up
According to Wikipedia
The 350 has the KE m272 engine with 268 hp
The blue efficiency has a DE m272 engine with 288hp
I believe if it was raised to 302 hp it woulda been stated
But like you said
It might be a variation of markets sha
Or maybe
Just maybe, the sites are not aware that the 276 in the c350 is a detuned one

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_C-Class_(W204)

Scroll down to facelift (2011+).
See second image below.

60-degree vee angle. Does that sound familiar? You bet it does.
See third image below.

2011+ C350 uses an M276 (302HP). 2011+ C300 uses a detuned M276 (248HP).

HeavenlyBang:


Before you ask that you must first understand what a CUV is. It's pretty much a raised sedan. Uses same platform as a sedan.

FX uses same platform as G, M, and 350z. It's a CUV.
Toyota Rav4 is a CUV.
Crosstour is a CUV.
Venza is a CUV.

These are all facts, whether you like them or not.

See first image below.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_C-Class_(W204)

Scroll down to facelift (2011+).
See second image below.

60-degree vee angle. Does that sound familiar? You bet it does.
See third image below.

2011+ C350 uses an M276 (302HP). 2011+ C300 uses a detuned M276 (248HP).

Oh yeah my man
That's why I love having conversations with you
I get educated one way or the other
Thanks for this
I didn't even realize there was something down the page

HeavenlyBang:


Before you ask that you must first understand what a CUV is. It's pretty much a raised sedan. Uses same platform as a sedan.

FX uses same platform as G, M, and 350z. It's a CUV.
Toyota Rav4 is a CUV.
Crosstour is a CUV.
Venza is a CUV.

These are all facts, whether you like them or not.

See first image below.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercedes-Benz_C-Class_(W204)

Scroll down to facelift (2011+).
See second image below.

60-degree vee angle. Does that sound familiar? You bet it does.
See third image below.

2011+ C350 uses an M276 (302HP). 2011+ C300 uses a detuned M276 (248HP).

Bros, you're yarning puan! Infiniti fx35 is never a SUV. Infiiti.com (official website of infiniti), cars.com, Kelly blue book and even us news and world reports all regard Infiniti fx35 as an SUV. You're even arguing with experts and manufacturers of the car.
Just accept that you didn't know this. After all, no man is an encyclopedia of knowledge.
You're telling me the difference between a CUV and SUV; is that the subject of discussion? I've shared from a reliable source (cars.com) a screenshot where it's clesrly stated that the car is an SUV. I'd share more from other reliable sources. Share your reliable source let's see if it's a CUV.

Philadelphia:


Bros, you're yarning puan! Infiniti fx35 is never a SUV. Infiiti.com (official website of infiniti), cars.com, Kelly blue book and even us news and world reports all regard Infiniti fx35 as an SUV. You're even arguing with experts and manufacturers of the car.
Just accept that you didn't know this. After all, no man is an encyclopedia of knowledge.
You're telling me the difference between a CUV and SUV; is that the subject of discussion? I've shared from a reliable source (cars.com) a screenshot where it's clesrly stated that the car is an SUV. I'd share more from other reliable sources. Share your reliable source let's see if it's a CUV.

seems you are also wrong too

The fx is a crossover SUV not a CUV or SUV per say. Even the manufacturers are confused how can a fx first and second generation be called an SUV, ko joor rara; D

I have been in the fx35 it doesn't drive, handle, look or perform like an SUV. I did just categorise it as a CUV the manufacturer is just trying to be mischievous.