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Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by RuthlessLeader(m): 2:48pm On Jul 13, 2018
ScienceWatch:
[s]Your dumb dumb brain at work again. No wonder you can't understand what the highly esteemed Vaxx is saying so simply here.

You don't learn ruthlessfollower, even the highly esteemed Butterflyleo and Sonofthunder made huge sacrifices to remove the rust from your seized brain. When you take on giants like Vaxx, make sure you have wisdom not puny intellect.[/s]
Fuckface Shitbag has come again oo cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy. You know vaxx isn't a christian right? grin grin. I don't have time to destroy you again bro. Share this post okay.

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Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by Teaser4(m): 3:20pm On Jul 13, 2018
CodeTemplar:
When you finally have the time, read ur Bible.
nah I don't read bible bro...
Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by Teaser4(m): 3:24pm On Jul 13, 2018
I'm here to reply reasonable posts. I no dey force anyone to drop their faith. na your life and choices. what's my own. I just share my personal view about religion. if you wan preach abeg go church or enter street. na on social media behind phone na in Dem dey get mouth. I've seen sh1t, if you wan test Jesus power over African voodoo. I fit text you an address for practicals, I'm gonna stream it live. so others can learn from una... na den u go no say Jesus and god na myth. you go drop like cockroach without a single touch... make the fairytale Jesus come do that make we see.

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Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by Teaser4(m): 3:27pm On Jul 13, 2018
selfwife:
I believe in God but do not know how to worship Him because religion and religious bodies are not balanced and often times seems confused.Adding the fact that the most morally bankrupt people are very religious individuals.
I'm with you on this sis. they're fvcking blind and deaf to the truth

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Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by Teaser4(m): 3:33pm On Jul 13, 2018
1Sharon:
Ppl can be mildly religious..just not extreme.

I like Catholics
funny enough Catholic's bible is more complete than Protestant's. lot's of confusion. each pastors with their different ideologies. rccg's doctrines differs from deeper life's own, and they claim they are serving the same Jesus and god. lot of sh1ts ...its glaring no need for repetition. A pastor once told us in church back then that, if you wear jeans trouser you're going to hell fire. wth. and some believe that poo, I remember few of my friends back then actually burnt their jean trousers cos they are scared...if hell truly exists I can't wait to jump inside...
Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by ScienceWatch: 3:49pm On Jul 13, 2018
RuthlessLeader:

Fuckface Shitbag has come again oo cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy. You know vaxx isn't a christian right? grin grin. I don't have time to destroy you again bro. Share this post okay.
lol Rotfl. You must be on mind altering drugs ruthlessfollower. You have destroyed no one but yourself.

Your attempts to destroy Vaxx and Butterflyleo was really like watching a mouse challenge a mighty lion. Your arguments are like that of a scared bum stuffed with mind numbing psychotropic drugs.

Please examine your own stupid contradictions extracted from a recent post of yours after you ranted that you don't believe in the spiritual dimension of God or Satan. But in your stupid post below you cry out for occultic Juju to restore order in your life. You really prove in your post below that you miss the benefits of spiritual power of occultic Juju.

Ruthlessfollower posted below;

"You have Little or Know Idea how we were Living as Africans Before Colonialism do You.?.
.Becoz Of Juju, There Was almost no crime at all.
People worked hard.
There was Respect and Order.!"

Atheists pride themselves on being a contradiction free species, Or is Ruthlessleader an exception ? Could it be that he never evolved past monkey stage ?

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Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by RuthlessLeader(m): 4:11pm On Jul 13, 2018
ScienceWatch:
lol Rotfl. You must be on mind altering drugs ruthlessfollower. You have destroy no one but yourself.
Oh really?

Your attempts to destroy Vaxx and Butterflyleo was really like watching a mouse challenge a mighty lion. Your arguments are like that of a scared bum stuffed with mind numbing psychotropic drugs.
All your similes won't do you any good. You are a dumbass using your rubbish bible to sound smart yourself.

Please examine your own stupid contradictions extracted from a recent post of yours after you ranted that you don't believe in the spiritual dimension of God or Satan. But in your stupid post below you cry out for occultic Juju to restore order in your life. You really prove in your post below that you miss the benefits of spiritual power of occultic Juju.

Ruthlessfollower posted below;

"You have Little or Know Idea how we were Living as Africans Before Colonialism do You.?.
.Becoz Of Juju, There Was almost no crime at all.
People worked hard.
There was Respect and Order.!"
Seriously. Can you please show me the link to that thread? Because I believe you are a liar. And If I said this, I meant it as The white man took so much from us and now we are worse off.

Atheists pride themselves on being a contradiction free species, Or is Ruthlessleader an exception ? Could it be that he never evolved past monkey stage ?
You are the monkey here
Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by ScienceWatch: 5:09pm On Jul 13, 2018
RuthlessLeader:


Seriously. Can you please show me the link to that thread? Because I believe you are a liar. And If I said this, I meant it as The white man took so much from us and now we are worse off.
You are the monkey here
The pyschotropic drugs must be sold, Stop using it !
There is ample proof that Ruthlessfollower said, ".Becoz Of Juju, There Was almost no crime at all.
People worked hard.
There was Respect and Order.!"

Now just like a lunatic you say that your statement meant that you are blaming the white man for the woes of Nigeria.

I see another serious CONTRADICTION. You blame Christianity for Nigeria's problems, now you blame the white man for robing you of your precious Juju.

Atheists pride themselves on having the most advanced intellect but just look how Ruthlessleader shame his brethren.
Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by Teaser4(m): 7:40pm On Jul 13, 2018
e be like Una get personal issh before...I dey enjoy it sha...
Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by CAPSLOCKED: 9:07am On Jul 18, 2018
selfwife:
I believe in God but do not know how to worship Him because religion and religious bodies are not balanced and often times seems confused.Adding the fact that the most morally bankrupt people are very religious individuals.


DID THIS "GOD" DIRECTLY TELL YOU IT NEEDS YOUR WORSHIP?
WHY ARE WE FOND OF LOOKING FOR THINGS THAT ARE NOT THERE?

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Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by Teaser4(m): 4:00am On Jul 19, 2018
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DID THIS "GOD" DIRECTLY TELL YOU IT NEEDS YOUR WORSHIP?
WHY ARE WE FOND OF LOOKING FOR THINGS THAT ARE NOT THERE?
this is deep bro
Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by 0temSapien: 4:23am On Jul 19, 2018
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DID THIS "GOD" DIRECTLY TELL YOU IT NEEDS YOUR WORSHIP?
WHY ARE WE FOND OF LOOKING FOR THINGS THAT ARE NOT THERE?
I tire o, my brother. Why should anyone worship the cause of the Universe? What's the sense it makes?

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Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by beatmonster(m): 10:47am On Jul 19, 2018

Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why?

Answer : YES

Why?

1. It divides humanity.
2. It robs people of their hard earned income
3. It deludes people's thinking faculty
4. It gives few people (religious leaders) so much influence (which they use to further their selfish interests)
5. it makes people docile
6. It negates science
7. (...)

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Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by Teaser4(m): 11:30am On Jul 21, 2018
beatmonster:


Answer : YES

Why?

1. It divides humanity.
2. It robs people of their hard earned income
3. It deludes people's thinking faculty
4. It gives few people (religious leaders) so much influence (which they use to further their selfish interests)
5. it makes people docile
6. It negates science
7. (...)
on point...
Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by Boxer007(m): 9:24am On Sep 24, 2018
Teaser4:
I wouldn’t really care if the person next to me believed in a religion, but religion is quite useless if you ask me.

There are several countries like Sweden and the Netherlands where good portion of the population do not believe in the existence of god, and these two countries are one of the happiest countries out there, with great scientific and technological innovations.

Religion itself don’t really serve much purpose anymore. The ethics written on many sacred writings are either flawed, ambiguous, contradicting, and/or plain wrong. With globalization, this is even more apparent. People arguing about which religion is true is nonsensical.

However, as someone who strongly believe in scientific method, statistics does say that religion helps mental health to a minor degree. This should, however, not be exaggerated as their effect is not spectacularly good. There’s all these answers below that believes religion can make one’s mental health from the bottom of the hell all the way up to heaven or something. This is not true, and for those who think it does by personal experience, probably is an optimistic person to begin with (possibly unconsciously), even if they share a story about “how depressed they were”. Religion only very slightly ease mental pain, and the other side-effects of religion pretty much negates their advantage.

In reality, religion don’t help at all. People die everyday. People go to war. People commit suicide. People fight for their religion. Poverty exists. What have religion done for them? Pray? And yet, there are some people saying “god is giving them a mission”. Well, I hope they burn in hell because that is plain evil. You don’t create unreasonable evil on purpose. Moreover, people die with that.

Religion has shown its flaws and they are on a decline. Increasingly more people are becoming atheists and agnostics, although they are still a minority today. They are not much more useful than believing in spirits and ghosts.

People should use their time rationally thinking about science and how to make the world a better place than using that time praying and thinking about gods.
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Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by Niflheim(m): 2:36pm On Sep 27, 2018
I would like to see a world without religion for one reason alone:..............…......I hate seeing people(human beings) drinking this toilet water!!!
Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by thinkafricanet: 11:24pm On Oct 10, 2018
I think you are conflating a complex world with over simplistic analytics.

Research of world beliefs Today does not explain causality. You can’t point to beliefs today and say look , that’s how all world nations arrived at their relative levels of wealth.

As an example, when the world had as its top 4 top powers , Eastern Rome Empire (Christian), Persia, Axum (Christian) and China, where was atheism?

When the Unites States were exporting Cotton (60% of 1800-1850 GDP) from slavery (9% of the population), where was atheism as an explanation of material wealth.

Blaming religion , ignores how the loss of Haiti to a slave revolt led to the French selling Louisiana (millions upon millions of square kilometres) to 13 American colonies to raise money. Without land sold at undervalue, would America have risen so easily.

Blaming religion, ignores the Indian Removal Act, which added a lot of land to the US by force.

I am using the US because it can be shown if you have a few years of your life to dig to real world events that blaming religion for poverty is a bit oversimplified.

What does the Stepstonian policy have to do with religion ?
Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by thinkafricanet: 11:27pm On Oct 10, 2018
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DID THIS "GOD" DIRECTLY TELL YOU IT NEEDS YOUR WORSHIP?
WHY ARE WE FOND OF LOOKING FOR THINGS THAT ARE NOT THERE?
Dope Name!

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Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by thinkafricanet: 2:47pm On Oct 19, 2018
beatmonster:


Answer : YES

Why?

1. It divides humanity.
2. It robs people of their hard earned income
3. It deludes people's thinking faculty
4. It gives few people (religious leaders) so much influence (which they use to further their selfish interests)
5. it makes people docile
6. It negates science
7. (...)

https://thinkafrica.net/2018/10/19/the-oldest-university-in-the-world-is-not-bologna/

In the link I explain the religious origin of the University Of Oxford, Of Cambridge, the University Of Paris and the University Of Bologna.

Law has its origin in religion - shall we live without the law.

Education has its origin in religion - shall we live without education.

The wide spread use of written English had its origin in the struggle between people like William Tyndale and king Henry the VIII. Tyndale wanted all men to be able to read the bible themselves. The reformation lead to a difference between Europe and other societies where the working class were not taught to read and write.

Google the Gutenberg Bible if you don’t understand .

The intellectual race between the Islamic world and the Christian world led to advancements in knowledge for mankind.

Did the 80% world supply of gold and silver from Potosi that Europe enjoyed between 1500-1800 support your theory that religion robs of income? They had religion , the Peruvians had religion , violence and wealth redistribution still happened to Europe.
Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by LordReed(m): 5:15pm On Oct 19, 2018
budaatum:
A world without religion would be a world without people. For as long as people exist, they will create 'cultural systems of designated behaviors and practices, world views, texts, sanctified places, prophecies, ethics, or organizations, that relates humanity to supernatural, transcendental, or spiritual elements'.

The only way to eliminate 'designated behaviors and practices, world views, texts, sanctified places, prophecies, ethics, or organizations', would be to eliminate humanity itself so that no one exists to consider anything to be 'supernatural, transcendental, or spiritual'. After all animals don't seem to spend time on those things.

Human existence however is way too interesting for me to wish to eliminate myself, or other people, for that matter. So, religion is something I'll put up with, I'm afraid, as it helps humans to transcend.

Man can transcend without religion. All we need is love, compassion and empathy.

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Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by budaatum: 6:17pm On Oct 19, 2018
LordReed:


Man can transcend without religion. All we need is love, compassion and empathy.
I agree. Most countries in Europe testify to this fact, though they may just be neoreligious, as in, in the next phase of their religion. I'm however suggesting we'd eventually make religions of whatever transcends us, while using the word "religion" very very loosely when I say "cultural systems of designated behaviors and practices, world views, texts, sanctified places, prophecies, ethics, or organizations". And I am taking into consideration the education levels of people in a society (key words taken loosely too). The less educated would accept things on faith, while the more educated would reason.

I was reading just today how Americans can't get their heads around the fact Brits don't venerate their flags like they do for instance. One person's retort was, Brits don't deify their flag and worship it like Americans do. It made me think of the religion of the Americans. Trump sure qualifies as an anointed prophet who shall not be touched, for some.

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Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by MuttleyLaff: 8:46pm On Oct 19, 2018
Teaser4:
I wouldn’t really care if the person next to me believed in a religion, but religion is quite useless if you ask me.

There are several countries like Sweden and the Netherlands where good portion of the population do not believe in the existence of god, and these two countries are one of the happiest countries out there, with great scientific and technological innovations.

Religion itself don’t really serve much purpose anymore. The ethics written on many sacred writings are either flawed, ambiguous, contradicting, and/or plain wrong. With globalization, this is even more apparent. People arguing about which religion is true is nonsensical.

However, as someone who strongly believe in scientific method, statistics does say that religion helps mental health to a minor degree. This should, however, not be exaggerated as their effect is not spectacularly good. There’s all these answers below that believes religion can make one’s mental health from the bottom of the hell all the way up to heaven or something. This is not true, and for those who think it does by personal experience, probably is an optimistic person to begin with (possibly unconsciously), even if they share a story about “how depressed they were”. Religion only very slightly ease mental pain, and the other side-effects of religion pretty much negates their advantage.

In reality, religion don’t help at all. People die everyday. People go to war. People commit suicide. People fight for their religion. Poverty exists. What have religion done for them? Pray? And yet, there are some people saying “god is giving them a mission”. Well, I hope they burn in hell because that is plain evil. You don’t create unreasonable evil on purpose. Moreover, people die with that.

Religion has shown its flaws and they are on a decline. Increasingly more people are becoming atheists and agnostics, although they are still a minority today. They are not much more useful than believing in spirits and ghosts.

People should use their time rationally thinking about science and how to make the world a better place than using that time praying and thinking about gods.
source: Quora

budaatum:
A world without religion would be a world without people.
For as long as people exist, they will create 'cultural systems of designated behaviors and practices, world views, texts, sanctified places, prophecies, ethics, or organizations, that relates humanity to supernatural, transcendental, or spiritual elements'.

The only way to eliminate 'designated behaviors and practices, world views, texts, sanctified places, prophecies, ethics, or organizations', would be to eliminate humanity itself so that no one exists to consider anything to be 'supernatural, transcendental, or spiritual'.
After all animals don't seem to spend time on those things.

Human existence however is way too interesting for me to wish to eliminate myself, or other people, for that matter.
So, religion is something I'll put up with, I'm afraid, as it helps humans to transcend.

LordReed:
Man can transcend without religion.
All we need is love compassion and empathy
You have unwittingly identified the components of true religion and/or religion that's pure and that's approved of.

It is that same true religion that made a Samaritian transcend, rise to the occasion and attend to one
when the priest (i.e. bishop/pastor/GO) and levite (i.e. church worker/usher/chorister) passed by on the other side.
Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by LordReed(m): 9:17pm On Oct 19, 2018
MuttleyLaff:




You have unwittingly identified the components of true religion and/or religion that pure and that's approved of.

It is that same true religion that made a Samaritian transcend, rise to the occasion and attend to one
when the priest (i.e. bishop/pastor/GO) and levite (i.e. church worker/usher/chorister) passed by on the other side.

Thankfully we don't need religion to get them, it is available to every human being who recognises that his fellow humans bleed and feel pain just like him. Neither is there a magic sky daddy approving or disapproving of your actions.
Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by MuttleyLaff: 9:42pm On Oct 19, 2018
LordReed:
Thankfully we don't need religion to get them
That is true religion.
If religion is to be done, it is that type of religion thats talked about and meant

LordReed:
it is available to every human being who recognises that his fellow humans bleed and feel pain just like him.
There you are
but you'll be surprised at the least expected place you'll find it available

The Samaritan proved this
whereas the priest (i.e. bishop/pastor/GO) and levite (i.e. church worker/usher/chorister) let themselves down

If a betting man, I would bet my bottom dollar,
the priest (i.e. bishop/pastor/GO) and levite (i.e. church worker/usher/chorister) excuses were religion (i.e. contamination)

LordReed:
Neither is there a magic sky daddy approving or disapproving of your actions.
I dont know about any "magic sky daddy" anywhere
What I know is, certainly each of us one day will give account of ourselves
Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by LordReed(m): 9:51pm On Oct 19, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
That is true religion.
If religion is to be done, it is that type of religion thats talked about and meant

That's your interpretation and I don't care. If you like call licking lollipop a religion. All I care is humans have love, compassion and empathy.


There you are
but you'll be surprised at the least expected place you'll find it available

The Samaritan proved this
whereas the priest (i.e. bishop/pastor/GO) and levite (i.e. church worker/usher/chorister) let themselves down

If a betting man, I would bet my bottom dollar,
the priest (i.e. bishop/pastor/GO) and levite (i.e. church worker/usher/chorister) excuses were religion (i.e. contamination)

I dont know about any "magic sky daddy" anywhere
What I know is, certainly each of us one day will give account of ourselves

More of the fairytales. There is nobody waiting to hear your life story and give you a medal, quit deceiving yourself.
Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by MuttleyLaff: 10:24pm On Oct 19, 2018
LordReed:
That's your interpretation and I don't care.
If you like call licking lollipop a religion.
All I care is humans have love, compassion and empathy.
I wish its my interpretation
Anything can be called religion including licking lollipop but there is only one true religion

What a better place it'll be if for all the care in the world us humans naturally have love, compassion and empathy.
Nirvana, utopia, paradise, Eden revisited all rolled into one?

LordReed:
More of the fairytales. There is nobody waiting to hear your life story and give you a medal, quit deceiving yourself.
Repeatedly calling it fairytales is building castles in the air.
Mark the words, we each will give account
Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by LordReed(m): 10:27pm On Oct 19, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
I wish its my interpretation
Anything can be called religion including licking lollipop but there is only one true religion

What a better place it'll be if for all the care in the world us humans naturally have love, compassion and empathy.
Nirvana, utopia, paradise, Eden revisited all rolled into one?

Repeatedly calling it fairytales is building castles in the air.
Mark the words, we each will give account

Do you have evidence of this? You know someone who has given account?
Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by MuttleyLaff: 10:36pm On Oct 19, 2018
LordReed:
Do you have evidence of this?
Absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence

LordReed:
You know someone who has given account?
Not yet.
Besides, how would I know anyone who has given account, before the appointed time
Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by LordReed(m): 10:47pm On Oct 19, 2018
MuttleyLaff:
Absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence

Not yet.
Besides, how would I know anyone who has given account, before the appointed time

Long way of saying fairytale.
Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by budaatum: 11:02pm On Oct 19, 2018
MuttleyLaff:

You have unwittingly identified the components of true religion and/or religion that's pure and that's approved of.

It is that same true religion that made a Samaritian transcend, rise to the occasion and attend to one
when the priest (i.e. bishop/pastor/GO) and levite (i.e. church worker/usher/chorister) passed by on the other side.
See, Lordreed. Christ taught love compassion and empathy, but humans deified him, created a religion out of his simple teachings and worship him.

He would turn in his grave, but even he knew they should be forgiven since they know not what they do. It seems they can't help themselves, and would always be amongst us.
Re: Would You Like To See A World Without Religion? Why? by budaatum: 11:07pm On Oct 19, 2018
LordReed:

Thankfully we don't need religion to get them, it is available to every human being who recognises that his fellow humans bleed and feel pain just like him.
But, so many years later, the majority still haven't got any closer to having them!

We got a new religion in UK called Mindfulness. It's the new in-thing, taught in schools, hospitals, church, and just about everywhere. It's old as fuq, but you'd think we'd only just discovered the holy grail.

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